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children read. you may want to help their math or science. you may want to help them in arts or whatever it is that your interest is. you need to find organizations that are interested in children and in fact are helping children to perform better in school. there are a lot of us out there who could sure use your help. >> steve perry, thanks very much. >> my pleasure. and that does it for this edition tonight, a look at my other show, "america's got talent." >> i've got more talent in my pinkie than piers has in all of his bouffant. turn the cameras, off, i can't do this. >> the host, nick cannon. >> this is [ bleep ]. sorry, i don't mean to curse piers, how do you get your own show, when i don't even have my own show. >> on his life, loves, and new twins, mariah carey. and terry fator and his $100 million act in vegas. >> i want to introduce myself -- >> we're talking. >> can i sing later? >> you can sing later.
>> and season five winner michael grimm. ♪ i never want someone the way that i love you ♪ >> about to unleash his debut album on the world. this is "piers morgan tonight." nick cannon is a multi-talented man, you just have to ask him, and he'll tell you, but his latest role is the most difficult of all. he's a father. he and his wife, mariah carey, are the proud parents of new twins, and he also has a new cd. and his other role is the host and second best-looking star of "america's got talent." mr. cannon, how are you, daddy? >> i'm good, i'm good. and thank you very much for having me on my show -- or your show, your show. >> you're look a little bit bleary-eyed.
not getting much sleep? >> you know, i never sleep, but now it's different, because i'm actually doing like baby stuff and changing and it takes -- you have to emote more. so now -- >> are you a good nappy changer? >> yeah. we don't call them nappies, though. >> diapers. >> there you go. >> are you a good diaper changed? >> i'm good. i was actually raised around a lot of children, so i'm very comfortable around children. >> and you're enjoying it? liking being a dad? >> i'm loving it. i can't stop smiling. it's an amazing thing to look down and see miniature yous looking up at you. so, i mean, you can give me some advice on fatherhood, right? >> well, i've got three boys. i actually got you a little present? >> really? >> yeah, because i was neglectful when i saw you at "america's got talent," because you were too busy. no one would have gone to greater effort than me. it may not be the most luxurious, because sharon will get you something fancier -- >> she got me something fancy. >> you came to the shower --
>> i did send you a gift. >> but i heard that was your assistant and not you. >> this is my idea, my concept, and you won't get this from anybody else. you're a sports fan, right? >> of course. >> this is my soccer team, arsenal, in england, and these have got their names on it. >> you know what's really interesting about this. you know, i was in a movie, football/soccer movie, for half a second, with david beckham and i played for the arsenal -- >> there we are. >> and i was t.j. mcgee. so if you've ever see the movie "gold tooth." >> that's moroccan's. >> that's dope! >> and you've got my daughter a soccer jersey as well. >> why not. >> you know, i've got a gift for you too. since you're a big bawler now, i had to get you a little shirt -- that's what you would say. i feel that's a statement you
would make. >> you are now famous. so i'm glad we can exchange gifts. >> your running joke with me is i was not famous enough. >> no one knew who you were in america. >> things have changed. >> you're now more famous than i am. >> in my studio. does that sicken you? >> it does. why couldn't i have gotten this job? >> tell me about your lovely wife, who is, i have to say, delightful. >> thank you. >> wherever i meet your wife, she makes me laugh, she looks sexy, beautiful. >> i hate when you say that, because i know there's this nasty undertone you have, every time you say something about my wife, i can imagine -- >> the reason you don't like it, you know she's always quite flirtatious around me. >> no, you're overly flirtatious with her. that is the problem. and i don't know how to stop that. in my neighborhood, we do things to people who -- you know -- >> are you threatening me?
you're threatening me with physical violence, aren't you? >> i am. stop hitting on my wife every time you see here, please. >> i've got to ask you this, do you wake up some mornings and just think, good god, i am lying nokes to mariah carey? >> every single day -- >> i would. >> especially now, it's on a whole different level, because it's like, oh, i have my dream girl, and this is amazing, but now to actually have a family and to look down and see children that look like both of us, it's surreal, man. >> because people have been cynical about your relationship, to put it mildly. >> yeah. >> but i've seen you with mariah a lot, and i just see a completely happy, loving couple. are you pleased that you've now got the babies to kind of say to people, you know what, whatever you thought about us, this is permanent. this is real. >> absolutely. i mean, but we don't really sit around and think about, you know, what the public says. i think the elation and the joy comes from more of just being able to beat the odds. whatever those odds were, but to
do it together and understand the power of our union. but, then, of course, you know, we kind of set ourselves up, when you think with about the way that we got married. it was out of the blue, it was less than a month. so everybody was saying, like, this has to be some type of publicity stunt. so we kind of understand that aspect of it. >> why were you so sure? >> i was so sure because that was mariah carey! i mean, i've always loved her, i've always been a huge fan, that was like my celebrity crush. and when i met her for the first time, i thought, i might have to meet this diva and i'm going to have to do this and -- and she was so down to earth and so normal and so regular. and a lot like i was. and i was like, whoa, this might be what i've been searching for all my life. >> did she know that she was your dream girl? >> i don't think she did. i mean, after the first 20 minutes she did. after me salivating over her.
but once we started to have a real conversation and spiritual conversation, it was one of those things where it's love at first sight, where you just can't -- it's that giddiness. you know, usually that giddiness only lasts for the first couple of days, but then it's like, all right, it's been a week, it's been two weeks, this isn't going away. >> you were like love sick puppies. >> when you see us together, we can't stop touching each other and talking about each other. it's real. it's definitely a fairy tale relationship. i know it doesn't happen often, so people tend to be very skeptical of it, but it's a blessing, man. i've been happy. >> what's it been like to you to come into mariah's sort of fabulous wealth and everything. this crazy world she exists in. you've talked quite movingly about your upbringing. this is a completely different world for you. >> i talk about that a lot in my stand-up act. interestingly enough, there's a perception of my wife, the billionaire. like, that's -- we don't operate
like that. we are normal people. she comes from very humble beginnings, i come from very humble beginnings. it's like, oh, you know, everyone's thinking we're bathing in champagne and there's gold toilets -- it's not really that. it's, you know, we don't really think about that, but my life changed in such a way to where it was more out in public, and i had to adjust to that, especially me being such an open person and a silly guy and always saying things, i had to understand that, all right, there's some things you keep for home and you don't talk about. >> who's the boss of the home? >> me, dammit! nah, man. right now the kids are the boss. but i've learned even as a husband, the duties you have to play within the union. it's like, i'm definitely the man in my house, but i definitely have to, you know, lean on my wife's understandings when she has a lot more knowledge and wisdom in certain areas. so it's a give and take. it's a 50/50 relationship.
>> what do you think mariah saw in you? >> what did she see in me? she saw -- and i always think what we saw in each other was with a sense of humor and the festiveness. we both have a great time and we don't take anything seriously. and we just enjoy life for what it is. we wake up every morning happy about waking up. and everything else is icing on top of that. >> but i remember her coming on "america's got talent" -- >> and take 70 hours to get to the stage. >> well, she did. she did, but it was a fascinating thing to watch, because after i'd heard all the stories about her, i didn't see a diva, i saw a perfectionist. i saw somebody who was prepared to put herself through ten hours -- never mind everybody else. she was not going to get on that stage until she was 100% right about what everything -- the lighting, the sound, the way she -- i found it impressive. i mean, that's how you get to the top, isn't it? it might be annoying to everyone -- >> yeah. it happened by mistake. she'll go -- she'll work harder
than anybody. and when she was on "america's got talent," she was in the director's booth looking at the shots, making sure how her entire show's going to be choreographed, from the time she's writing a song all the way to the time she's performing it, she's a perfectionist. >> because you have that work ethic? >> i do. >> talk me through your ridiculous working day. the normal day. >> yeah, well, it depends on what coast i'm on, but it usually starts very early in the morning. if i'm on the west coast, my day starts around 1:30 a.m. to broadcast my radio show in new york. if i'm -- and you're doing it for four hours, right? >> yeah, four hours. if i'm on the east coast, i get to stay in bed a little longer, i don't have to be up until 3:30 or 4:00. >> but the west coast is where you are most of the time? >> right. >> you get up at 1:30? >> 1:30, probably in the studio until about 7:30, then i have a few hours to go to the gym or visit with the kids, then i'm
off to my office to handle, you know, my team nick and television production duties, and then by that time, probably 1:00, "america's got talent," you know, live television, we take care of that. and when "america's got talent's" over, i'm off to the music studio, depending on what's going on, sometimes it's interviews. >> when do you sleep? >> i don't sleep. i don't sleep at all. >> do you sleep much at all? >> maybe two hours a night, and in the breaks between the live shows and rehearsals at "america's got talent," i get an hour nap. so i try to get about four hours throughout the day, it's really never more than two hours consistent. >> i mean, that's extraordinary. >> i've kind of been trained that way. i mean, being a person who's been on the road since i was like 16 years old, doing stand-up and music and all that, you don't sleep a lot. i think that's what comes in this business. and a lot of people get exhausted and you see throughout their careers, they have, you know, problems with insomnia as entertainers.
i've been blessed enough, i haven't had that issue yet, but i never sleep. i just go. >> the good news is with the babies, of course -- >> i'm on their schedule. >> the two hours you would have had, you're not going to have either. you're down to zero sleep. >> but i'm still run on adrenaline. >> well, have a two-minute sleep while we have a little break. when we come back, we're going to talk america's got talent and how bad you feel i'm the real star of the show. >> yeah, okay. ♪ [ male announcer ] in 2011, at&t is at work, building up our wireless network all across america. we're adding new cell sites... increasing network capacity, and investing billions of dollars to improve your wireless network experience. from a single phone call to the most advanced data download, we're covering more people in more places than ever before in an effort to give you the best network possible.
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♪ >> anyone can sing pop songs. when you hit those high notes, i knew, i knew that in 40 years' time, if i'm still alive, i will be now known as the guy who helped discover jackie evancho. and that's something i'm very proud of. and that makes me feel very happy. >> stop it! >> this is not your moment, piers. >> thank you! >> that was, of course, "america's got talent," and of course, it was my moment. i was taking it. >> man, you just -- see, they think that our banter is like made up. we really get frustrated with piers on the show, because every minute he can take, it's all about him. >> this is your ultimate nightmare. >> the lion's den. >> tell me about "america's got talent," because you came in -- obviously, i've been on since the start, you came in a couple of seasons ago. as you've immersed yourself in the show, what have you found that you love about it?
because it becomes very contagious, doesn't it? >> yeah, it's the greatest summer job ever. i mean, i go to work every day happy. and just to see -- i mean, today, these are people that are striving for their dreams, ordinary people with extraordinary talent. and it is cliche and as catchy as it sounds, it's like, no, you get to see these people turn into stars overnight. and i have a ball doing it. i get to have fun. i mean it's a stand-up comic's dream, where it's just the craziness that we get to see. >> you were put through more stupid things this season than i've ever seen in my life. the new season starts tomorrow on nbc, but you were put through hell. i mean, they dragged you out every ten minutes, and each time it got more humiliating. >> yeah, last year was about doing death-defying things. this year, i think they just wanted to embarrass me. and they did it. and we had a good time. >> on a serious note, you're obviously involved in finding talent away from "america's got talent". >> yes, yes.
>> do you have any credibility issues with the way that stars are found on these talent shows? >> it's all how it's handled, in my opinion. when something feels forced, that's when i an issue with it. when i feel like, this is fabricated. but when it naturally happens, a la susan boyle or jackie evancho, this was just a platform that their star chose to shine. >> and it's the same kind of thing when usher helped discover justin bieber, for example. you know both of them. when that happens, that in itself is just as fortuitous as if you'd entered "america's got talent." >> absolutely, absolutely. and i think the audience picks up on that as well. when they think, i was a part of an authentic moment, they'll go with it. >> and we do see contestants coming on and trying it on. they say, by the way, i don't want to influence things, but i broke my leg two years ago and i'm still having pain from it, and i'm going to sing "raise me
up" and it's mainly from my leg. >> or they're singing this for their aunty who lost their house. it was like, come on, what's that have to do with the talent. >> well, i hate any sense of manipulation by the contestants, or, indeed, by the show inadvertently. sometimes you feel like something's trying to be forced. i like it, like you do, when it's organic. somebody walks on and you have like a terry fator moment. we were in vegas last week doing the boot camp, and up the road, there's terry fator, who was a $500 a week guy doing his ventriloquist act, and now he's a $100 million act. >> this is like his second $100 million deal, right? i need to start doing -- >> tell me this, we had a great dinner once, i think it was in chicago, where we talked about privacy and fame and all that kind of thing. when you see people becoming instantly very famous on this show, how do you feel? as somebody who's in that bubble
of fame, do you worry about that? >> i just hope they know what they're in store for. because i would say if you weigh it out, the good things about fame are probably smaller than the bad things about fame. especially if you don't know how to handle it. because it's a magnifying glass. it's a magnifying glass on your own personality, it's a magnifying glass on your life and your lifestyle. so if you have any idios idiosinkrisies or thing like that, it's going to get magnified. if you're a great person, they'll see that, if you're a bad person, they'll see that. >> where do you draw the line, the pair of you, because you're both very famous. obviously, you've done magazine covers, you know, you did naked pictures recently, to my horror in your case, and my delight when i saw your wife. but when you put all that stuff
out there and you're very active on twitter and you talk about your life and your stand-up, you can talk very personally about stuff. is there a line that can still be drawn if you do that, do you think, in terms of personal privacy? >> there is, but if you give them enough -- if you feed the sharks, they won't attack. that's how i feel. but i think i might be a little too open, because my wife actually has been phenomenal at treating her private life private and being precious about information and me, personally, i don't care. i mean, that's the beauty of what i do. i love getting up in the morning and talking about, you know, how crappy i felt coming into work, and, you know, being a stand-up, i look for the things that i may be insecure about and pulling those things out. so even just being a husband, you have to be able to balance. like, there's certain things, like, i want to go on the air and talk about a disagreement my wife and i had, and she's like, why in the hell would you tell
somebody that? and even in my stand-up act, i might say, you know, my wife has all these freaking products in the bathroom. she's like, why are you telling people what i have in my bathroom. so i have to balance it out, but i have no issue. i'm an open book. >> when you see other celebrities moaning about being famous, what do you feel about? >> i hate it, man! i mean, they know what they signed up for. this is what you wanted. i mean, we all wanted to be famous, we wanted to be stars. we're in our rooms imagining what fame is like. well, this is what it's like, so you can't sit around and complain in your house in malibu as you're making millions of dollars and -- but that there's photographers outside. it's like, come on. we could be, you know, working as a coal miner, we could be doing jobs that everyday people have to do that have real issues besides, you know, a couple people who want to take pictures of us. >> and if i landed mariah carey, i would want to be photographed, all day long. >> exactly.
call me, do whatever you want to do to me, i have the life. i love my life. i was talking to one of my stand-up comedian friends about that. i was like, yo, if i got hit by a bus tomorrow, i'd be like, oh, well. i had a great life. so, man, i'm so grateful, and feel like i've been blessed. whatever comes with this life, i'll take it. >> let's take a short break. when we come back, i want to talk about what you think is your real love, and that is stand-up comedy. >> absolutely. >> even though you're not funny. [ man ] i got this new citi thankyou card
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just like -- ha-ha ha-ha hah! nickelodeon. >> that was from nick cannon's showtime special, "mr. showbiz," which is now about to come out on cd. >> yeah, man! >> your real love, whenever we get this ridiculous late-night files together from agt audition, we get talking, and i can tell of all the things that you do, the thing you get the real buzz from is the stand-up comedy, isn't it? >> oh, man, i love it, i've been doing since i was 11 years old. and even at the beginning of the special, which shows footage of me on stage at 11 and at 15 in a comedy store, and for me to actually have a special, which i've been waiting all my life, and for people to love it and
embrace it like they have, it's a dream come true. >> what is the art of stand-up comedy, if you can simplify it for somebody. what's the secret to being a good stand-up? >> there really is none, but if i had to, i would say honesty plus confidence. if you can do that, be 100% honest with yourself or with whatever topic you're speaking on and convey it in a way that i know this is real, i know this is funny, people will laugh. >> how much of your act is topical? >> everything is topical to me, because a lot of it's about my life. but i deal with everything -- i deal with serious issues, like homophobia all the way to the "n" word and, you know, so, it's definitely what's going on in the world. but it comes from the perspective of a 30-year-old black man. >> yeah, i mean, as a 30-year-old black man, when barack obama got elected president -- >> yeah. >> -- you got a great honor, didn't you? >> yeah, i got to deejay the inauguration party! >> how did that feel? >> now, it was amazing.
it was funny, because i had been following and supporting the president before he was the president, and i got a chance to be a surrogate for the campaign, very early on, and so i remember being in like a hotel, or almost really a motel, with the first lady and president obama, like, in south carolina, like we were just campaigning and i remember we were having a conversation one day, and he was just saying how grateful he was for me to be a part of his campaign. and i said, hey, you don't owe me nothing, just let me deejay the inauguration party. like, joking, you know, and he did. he made sure that i was the deejay. i mean, he's a great man >> and even worse, he e-mailed you personally to thank you. we had a name-dropping competition, and one day you pulled out your phone and showed me this e-mail signed barack. >> hey, i know big people, that's all i'm saying. >> how do you think he's doing?
>> i think he's doing phenomenally. and again, i'm going to be a will it biased, because i've been supporting him from day one. but from this point, it's a good place right now. everything's looking up, and i think they said it's above 60% with the approval rating, so i'm feeling good, as he should too. i think he's feeling a great job. >> the one thing i really want to do with you before we finish is start a twitter war. >> we have too! i need to be beefing with somebody else. >> because you've had a great feud with eminem. >> yes, that was awesome. >> then a brilliant one with chelsea handler, with some real trash talking. and you've worked out like i have, if you have a good bit of a twitter beef with someone, your followers go up. so you and i immediate to get very nasty with one another. >> but they wouldn't really believe it. i tried to get in a beef with russell brand, and they thought i was just joking around. they know we work together. so we would have to get into a physical altercation, and i would have to whoop your ass,
and then -- >> if you and eminem came face to face in the street, on a dark night, would you take him out? >> i don't -- he'd have too many bodyguards around him. >> if it was just the two of you? >> just the two -- i don't know! >> could you physically beat him. >> i don't know. see this, i've been working out -- >> for a little guy, you're quite -- >> for a little guy, i'm boxed. >> because you've wanted to -- >> he was insulting your wife. >> anyone who insults my wife or my family, i have an issue with,i do. i would have to see where that man actually was coming from. if he was saying, man, this is entertainment, but the you literally have a problem with me, then we can solve that problem. you've crossed the line a little bit on -- >> i've straddled the line. >> on "america's got talent," where you've said some things, and i'm like, piers, you're going to get your ass whooped. >> i look forward to you whooping my ass on "america's got talent".
it starts tomorrow with a two-hour extravaganza. it is the best talent we've ever had. >> and i say, we always say that every season, we mean it this time. >> well, last year was the best we've had, and this year's better. >> it's like this young energy that the show has now. and i have to commend you guys on this too, because all of these competition shows are really trying to conjure up some way to do it new and differently. you guys do it so well. the chemistry between the judges, it's -- we have the best judge, like, setup, on television. we have someone who has credibility in the world of journalism, we have an actual manager, we have an actual entertainer, who are sitting there giving real criticism, and we have talent that are really doing more than just singing and just dancing. like, it's a show like no other. so i'm excited. >> and finally, what is your talent? >> what is my talent? >> if you were entering the show. >> if i had to come on the show as something, i would definitely
be a stand-up comic. >> i would "x" you straight off. what else would you do? i've heard you sing. no offense, but not great. >> well, what are you saying, singing? i'm a musician. i play instruments, i dabble in the hit hop field. that doesn't take vocal ability, necessarily. >> what would you actually -- other than stand-up comedy, what would you do, if you walked on stage on "agt." i've heard you rap. >> i could probably do a little bit of that. >> go ahead. >> you want me to freestyle, on the spot? >> how good are you? >> before i got on this show, it was very boring, had to be here with my friend, piers morgan. he thinks he's a snazzy dresser, but you never know because a cat like me stay at savvy row. >> that was terrible. nick cannon, thank you very much. and we'll be right back with two
worth $100 million. he's a ventriloquist, singer, and a comedian, terry fator. and terry, first of all, congratulations. what a story. >> thank you. >> you're indisputably the greatest breakout star from any show. the figures are mind boggling. you're one of the highest paid stars in vegas history. when i first met you, you were earning, i don't know, 500 bucks a week, going up and down america in your little van. >> that's right. >> can you quite believe what's happened to you? >> no, it's absolutely phenomenal. it's the true story of the american dream, of what we all hope and aspire for. and i love that it's an overnight sensation, but it took me 32 years to get there, you know? >> that is amazing. and what was extraordinary, and tell me the story properly, because it is an amazing one. your act didn't used to be you doing singing impressions through the puppets. what was the act? >> well, i was always a singer, and i had a band for about 15 years, and i was the lead singer of the band, and i would do impressions of singers. i didn't know i was an impressionist.
i thought i was just a singer. i didn't realize until i was probably close to 30 years old that nobody else could sing like everybody that they wanted to. and then i would pull out a puppet, occasionally, and i would do a little ventriloquist act. and i would have the puppet sing like garth brooks or have them sing like roy rogers or something like that, and it was just kind of a novelty. and i went to las vegas one day and saw danny ganz, who unfortunately passed away a couple of years ago, but i was sitting around watching everybody react to his impressions, and i thought, well, i can do all of those voices, but do all of them without moving my lips. so i went back home and rewrote my show, took me about six months, and made every single puppet i have do impressions of singers. and all of a sudden, people really started taking notice. >> and that was the magical tipping point, wasn't it? >> it was. >> when you came to "america's got talent," we saw hundreds of ventriloquists, most of them horrific, because the first thing they do is move their
lips. and you came on, and i remember, you weren't the favorite for a long time, but there was something very special about that, because people of all ages were really enjoying it. we could see in the audience, everyone was loving what you were doing. and you got more confident, and right at the end, bang, you won the show. >> yeah. and what was funny was, i went into the show, pretty much with a plan. >> oh, by the way, i'm winston. >> yeah, you know winston. >> we're old friends, winston and i. >> yeah, i know. i just wanted to introduce myself. >> well, we're talking. >> okay. can i sing later? >> you can sing later. >> okay. >> but i didn't have the song that i did at the finale planned, and when i got to that final show, because i didn't think i was going to make it all the way through. i just had like three or four supposed planned. i went to the producers of the show and i said, i think i want toot roy orbison. and their reaction, you can sing like roy orbison? and i was like, yeah. and they were like, yeah, do roy orbison. >> there you were, mr. america, touring america, doing your
show, dreaming the dream that every contestant does on "america's got talent." now that you're living the talent, the new season starts up tomorrow on nbc, what would you say? is it all that's cracked up to be? do you ever regret losing the anonymity? >> no, no, never. no, i don't. but for me, it was never so much about the fame, and all of the other things. those are all just icing on the cake. for me, the on thing i wanted, and the only thing i've always wanted since i was 10 years old was to have people enjoy what i do. and that was the low point in my career, to have one person in the audience. because i just wanted people to come and see the show and leave and say, wow, that was a really great show. >> that's wrong, winston was always about the money, right? >> of course, i'm the guy who spends all his money. >> that's right. so all of that is wonderful, and it is great. but for me, it really was about
the show. it was about people knowing what i do and appreciating it. >> i remember after you went to vegas, going up there and seeing you in the theater. and there it was, the terry fator theater, i couldn't believe it. >> i know. >> it was an amazing moment, to see this guy whose journey i'd been on, with him, really, ending up in the greatest entertainment place on earth. >> i know. >> in one of the great theaters, named after you. you had your own store, i went and bought some terry fator puppets, and i was really proud of you. >> simon cowell named me as one of the top two entertainers on the planet. i had a father who never, ever -- and to this day, he has not told me i'm a good entertainer, but to have people like you and simon cowell say you're proud of me, that's all right. i don't have have ever hear it from my dad. >> i think you can safely assume you're a good entertainer. it wouldn't be right without
letting you do a re-performance of letting you and winston do a song that won -- >> not "you and winston," just winston. he just stands there with his mouth shut. >> do you want to perform? >> here's the song that won "america's got talent." ♪ i thought that i was over you ♪ ♪ but it's true, so true. i love you even more than i did before. but darling ♪ ♪ what can i do? ♪ oh, you don't love me ♪ and i'll always be
♪ crying ♪ over you ♪ crying over you ♪ yes, now you're gone ♪ and from this moment on ♪ i'll be crying ♪ crying ♪ crying ♪ crying ♪ yeah, crying ♪ crying ♪ over you >> fantastic! >> thank you. >> that brings back so many memories! and just before we go, you're on tuesday to saturday at the mirage in vegas. tickets are going like hot cakes, but you can presumably
still buy them. good luck, terry. it's great to see you. >> i look forward to seeing you in vegas. thank you so much. >> thank you, piers >> bye, winston. as always, the more intelligent member. >> well, of course. >> thank. coming up, the man who beat out jackie evancho, prince poppycock, in season five of "america's got talent." ♪ [ male announcer ] in 2011, at&t is at work, building up our wireless network all across america. we're adding new cell sites... increasing network capacity, and investing billions of dollars to improve your wireless network experience. from a single phone call to the most advanced data download, we're covering more people in more places than ever before in an effort to give you the best network possible. at&t. rethink possible. we don't just make a taillight... ..we make a sculpture. we don't just make a sunroof...
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michael grimm won season 5 of "america's got talent" in what may have been the season's biggest upset in the show's history. he gave the performance of his life and he reminds me of a young van morrison. michael grimm joins me now. that's what i always thought when i saw you performing. >> i appreciate that. thank you. >> it just had that feel, the way you perform, the manner in which you performed. but it was a shock. i mean, i remember just everybody assuming little jackie, the little angel, was going to walk this. >> i thought she was too, piers. >> what did you think when your name was announced? >> i thought they announced the loser at first because i knew
she was going to win, and honestly when they said my name, i had to think did they really just say my name? you know, but yeah. next to her, she's a powerhouse. and what a great girl. what a great little personality. >> she is. and she's selling millions of records, too. now, your new album is about to hit the world. are you pleased with it? >> i'm very happy. >> is it the culmination of the dream for you? >> this is something i've worked my whole life to get to. and thanks to "america's got talent" and america and you guys, i finally get to do the album i've always waited for. >> what i love about your story is that like so many contestants you had a pretty tough life. you know, your parents, your dad was discharged from the military, didn't have much money. your mom cleaned churches to try and pay the bills. you lived at one point in a tiny camper with holes in the ploor and stuff. then things got so tough you went to live with your grandparents with your sister-i think. >> that's right. welfare was about to take us. and yeah, my grandmother said no, i ain't going to let that happen. >> so you were literally going to go into welfare.
your grandmother took you in. >> yes, sir. >> in many ways saved the kind of life you may have had. >> absolutely. she is my savior, yeah. my sister and i both. we owe our life to her. >> when you won "america's got talent" and your life obviously changed forever, was your grandmother still asfliev was she around to see that? >> oh, yeah, she's around and she -- >> what does she make of it? >> she's having probably the best of time, more than anyone. she's loving all the attention, and she's quite famous down there in her area. and i'm worried about her. i'm starting to worry if this is too much for her. and she's assuring me that it is not. she's loving every minute. so you know, it's good for her. i'm glad. >> i mean, one of the more moving aspects, i think, of your journey on the show was in hurricane katrina your grandparents lost their home. >> yes, sir. yeah. we had a house, i was raised in there in hancock county, she raised my sister and i in.
and they lost that in katrina, and she moved out in the woods in a little trailer. and i've always told her since i was 5 that i'm going to grow up and become a star and get her out of that situation she was in. and i'm just -- i'm really glad and blessed -- >> did you do that? have you -- >> yeah. it's been built. the frame's up now. i'm sure by next month she'll be sitting in there. her and my grandfather. >> so you've managed to repay that -- >> yes, sir. >> that debt that really she incurred. >> she deserves it. her and my grandfather both, yes, sir. >> amazing thing to be able to do that. >> well, you know, if someone can do it in the family, i'm sure they would. i was just the one that had the opportunity to do so. yeah. >> when that house is done and you give your grandmother the keys to the house, it's going to be quite a moment for you. >> it is. it's going to be emotional, i'm sure. i can't wait. >> you've got this album coming out. it's called "michael grimm." >> yes, sir. >> this, again, this is probably going to sell millions of
copies. >> i hope so. >> this will propel you into a hole new world. jackie's has already sold a few million. are you ready for that kind of cuss? obviously winning a talent show is one thing but being a multimillion selling art sift a big deal. >> i really don't know, piers. i'm not sure until i get there. but i know that i've prepared my whole life for this. paying deuce. if there's any moment i'm ready, it's certainly now. >> i'm hearing great things about it from the people at sony, simon cowell and others, i know they're thrilled with what you've done with the album. i wish you all the success with it. >> i appreciate that. >> and you're now going to play us out with a little number. >> yeah. >> what are you going to sing? >> i'm going to sing a song off the album. it's my version of alicia keyes's "falling." i'm a big fan of hers. and i hope you'll enjoy it. i hope alicia likes it. ♪ i keep on falling
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