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the battle of 100 pines. and these troops were fighting, and they knew that they had to win this fight. when the smoke cleared, the first south carolina was still standing. and the calvary unit was gone. only two soldiers, one from each side died that night. but history had been made. >> we'll never forget those men. and i'm teary about that, because that is a sacrifice to our country that they have laid down. not just to their country, but to their race. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> very well said. >> a battlefield unmarked. but remembered. >> think back, 150 years ago, here is where the slaves that were brought from the coast of africa proved that they were men. this is the area where black
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soldiers from the first south carolina earned their right to be called soldiers. >> told you that you would like it. my thanks to our producer, nice job with that. women will soon take up position on the front lines of battle, as soon as the final acts of defense secretaries, one of the final acts of defense secretary leon panetta that this week lifted a ban of unit in combat units. but for one combat unit in the air force this is nothing new. their women have been side by side with men fighting on the ground for more than a decade. that story will air an hour from now on cnn, and we'll debate that an hour from now, one guest says they shouldn't do it. and that is a woman. "the situation room" begins now with wolf blitzer. a senator who experienced the horror of bullets and blood launches a fight to ban
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military-style weapons. plus, joe biden's aha moment as vice president. and would he run against hillary clinton? stand by for our exclusive interview. and we'll take you behind the scenes of hillary clinton's world and get an insider's take on whether or not she will run for president again. we want to welcome our viewers from the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." we begin with the national fight over guns and gun violence, the obama administration is falling through on its promise to take its fight to the public. vice president joe biden has been on the road and on line. in congress, democrats introduced a new effort to ban 158 specific assault-style weapons and prohibit other guns
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from using magazines containing more than ten rounds of ammunition. those are just two of the provisions of the bill put forward by the united states senator whose own hands were bloodied by one of the most famous shooting acts in california history. cnn's chief correspondent, dana bash, was at the emotional announcement on capitol hill. >> reporter: wolf, with all the gun control measures that president obama provided this one, this assault-style ban is one of the toughest to get through congress. her determination comes from a very public tragedy four decades ago. for diane feinstein, it is personal. >> well, i became mayor as a product of assassination. both mayor masconey and supervisor have been shot and killed. >> reporter: the death of her colleagues, including harvey milk, the first openly gay
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public official was so traumatic she rarely discussed it. >> we're somebody that was very close to a tragic shooting. >> reporter: but here, in the launch to push the assault weapons ban, she talked about it in graphic detail. >> i was the one that found supervisor milk's body, and i was the one trying to get a pulse. once you have been through one of these episodes, once you see what the crime scene is like it is not like the movies. it changes your view of weapons. >> reporter: she put on an elaborate event, even getting special permission from d.c. and capitol police to display ten different types of assault weapons, including an ar-15, the kind of rifle the shooter used to murder children in newtown. >> assault weapons were designed for and should be used on our battlefields. not on our streets. >> reporter: the proposed legislation would prohibit the
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sale, manufacture, transfer and importation of more than 150 assault-style weapons and ban large capacity magazines with more than ten rounds of ammunition. but to appeal to gun owners it excludes or keeps legal most handguns, and 2,000 hunting and sporting rifles. >> how are you going to go hunting with something like that? you kill something, there is nothing left to eat. >> reporter: also here, family members march across the country. >> i have a bullet still in my head, i was shot in the jaw. it is one mm away from my brain stem. >> reporter: still, feinstein is realistic about the slim chance that the assault weapons ban has to pass. >> the answer is, we don't know, it is so uphill. >> reporter: but pushing gun control is now a white house campaign-style effort.
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and vice president joe biden held a social media town hall, a google hangout to rally support. >> make your voices heard. this outfit, this town listens when people rise up and speak. >> reporter: the white house and feinstein know their biggest hurdle is convincing skeptical fellow democrats from gun-right states to support gun control. >> the message to democrat is see what your silence does? there will be more of these. >> reporter: talking to several of those conservative democrats here in the hallways, it is very clear there is not an appetite to push forward on this assault weapons ban. and that may be in part because of the opposition from the nra, which in fact released a statement about diane feinstein, saying it once again curtails the constitution, and they go on to say they will once again object to her wrong-headed approach. >> thank you, the announcement came just three days after the
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president in his inaugural address promised to make gun control a second term priority. but can the president actually deliver? and how will the politics of guns impact the second-term agenda? our chief national correspondent john king is here with answer a. can the president deliver? >> today, no, this is not only a chance to deliver but how he will conduct himself. you see people listen, inside washington they don't have the votes. let's listen to what dana talked about, there are at least 11 senate democratic seats, some say 11, some say 13, but these 11 seats now held by democrats, many of them are gun-right states and many have incumbents who say no, mr. president, or i won't go as far as you say. the president has a problem in his party, the republicans are just standing back, they're
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saying if you can prove you get the votes with the democrats we'll look at these things. but the expectation is that the senate will go first, house speaker john boehner and his staff will say we'll look at them in committee hearings but wouldn't act unless the senate passes something. they think the best the president can get today is something significantly watered down. maybe a water-down version of his background checks, maybe the assault weapons ban, today, it would not pass the senate. so will the president and vice president consistently stay at this? that is a question, the vice president today, we'll told we'll have more in the weeks ahead. the question is, when the president is in a tough fight on capitol hill will he drop it or continue? >> because he is an excellent political campaigner, vice president, as well. how visible will they be in the coming weeks and months. >> we know that the vice president had a public meeting,
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in the state -- if he runs for president, you have to give him points for political coverage. i want you to listen to the vice president here, he went to this google hangout, dana played a clip of it. you need to change -- you don't need these assault weapons, they say, listen to this question. >> in california, everybody talks about the big earthquake or some terrible natural disaster as a last line of defense, what would you say to that? >> well, you know, guess what? a shot gun will keep you a lot safer, a double barrelled shot gun than the assault weapon in somebody's hand, of somebody who doesn't know how to use it. you know it is harder to use an assault weapon than it is a shot gun, if you want to keep people away in an earthquake, buy shot gun shells. >> some may see it colorful by joe biden, buy shot gun shells, but others say it is a down payment. if you pass the assault weapons ban that this administration wants to take all of your guns. so what the vice president is saying, no, that is poppyc oh
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ock, saying we're all for gun rights, right now if you do the math, they don't have the votes, the president with the help of his vice president and others, they are using the bully pulpit to rally outside, as of today they don't have the math. >> a struggle for the president and diane feinstein, thanks very much. guns certainly only part of the president's very ambitious second term agenda, an agenda that has republicans warning "the era of liberalism is back" that is what they're warning. cnn political analyst, ron, thank you very much for coming in. listen to some highlights from the president's inaugural address that underscore the more progressive or liberal agenda, potentially. >> we'll respond to the threat of climate change, the path towards sustainable energy
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sources will be long and sometimes difficult. but america cannot resist this transition. we must lead it. our journey is not complete until our gay brothers and sisters are treated like anyone else under the law. our journey is not complete until we find a better way to welcome the striving, hopeful immigrants who still see america as a land of opportunity. >> all right, so he laid out a pretty impressive liberal agenda there. >> yeah, and you know what? it is a clear pattern that goes back over a year now. if you think about it from the fight on contraception to health care to legalizing the dream act for students, to comprehensive gay marriage change, even women in combat, he has clearly crossed a rubicon, in the past, democrats have been concerned about many of these issues, going too far, alienating the white voters.
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but president obama won despite the huge deficit, there is a clear sense there, reflecting the ideas of what is the soci socially liberated whites, there is a clear challenge there. >> did it surprise you? >> no, i think it continued, as john king pointed out, many of the issues on the congressional politics are difficult. what the president is doing is identifying a kind of -- solidifying the properties of the coalition that approved the majority in five of the past six presidential elections. there is a risk for republicans, here, too. if they block the president's initiatives, they kind of deepen the problem.
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>> what about comprehensive, immigration reform, gay marriage? how difficult will those be? >> look, the coalitions are very similar, the groups that support him, the regions that support him are very similar. the one that he has the best prospects, immigration reform, after this last election, there are enough republicans, jeb bush, who see value for the party in trying to settle it. on things like climate and guns it will be much harder to bring along republicans. but there could be congressional politics, may be a very different story at the presidential level. these are issues that are supported by the groups, at the core of the coalition, ultimately republicans have to cut into that if they want to win back the white house. what plays at the congressional level, it could make it tougher for them at the level if the president can't pass all of these ideas. >> a terrific article in the journal. thank you very much.
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and hillary clinton's testimony put the benghazi terror attacks back in the news. cnn's arwa damon brought back more on the fears. plus, gloria borger's interview with the vice president. he describes the aha moment when he decided the job was really worth while. (train horn) vo: wherever our trains go, the economy comes to life. norfolk southern. one line, infinite possibilities. ♪ [ male announcer ] don't just reject convention. drown it out. introducing the all-new 2013 lexus ls f sport.
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secretary of state hillary clinton stood her ground about the attack in libya which took the lives of four americans, including the u.s. ambassador, what angered critics is that appeals for more security at the benghazi consulate went unheeded. listen to this, from senator john mccain. >> were you and the president made aware of the classified cable from chris stevens, that the united states consulate in benghazi could not survive a sustained assault? numerous warnings, including personally to me about the security were unanswered or unaddressed. it took a cnn reporter looking through the consulate to find chris stevens's last warning. >> that reporter, of course, was our own senior international correspondent, arwa damon who found ambassador chris steven's journal in the ruins of the consulate in benghazi.
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arwa is joining us now from beirut, remind our viewers, what was it like when you got to that benghazi consulate? >> reporter: well, we arrived on scene three days after the attack had taken place to find it even at that point in time, completely unsecured, not being treated like a are crime scene at all. the vast majority of the buildings had been burned. and to access the so-called safe room we had to crawl through a window, which we later found out was the same window that ambassador steven's body had been pulled out by other libyan individuals later on. when we went in the particular area, the room itself, the bedroom was covered with black soot, later, as you mentioned we found the diary there in between the chair and bed. it was really quite hair-raising and sombering to look through it, standing there, to begin to imagine what had transpired.
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we also saw in the bathroom, later, dark-colored rust stains that we photographed. later it was surprising to realize that all of this evidence had been left behind that there was really no evidence to secure it. the other thing that immediately caught our attention was that it did most certainly seem that the consulate was not adequately secured. it was very much as we do now know, other senior embassy staff on the ground had been calling it a soft target, wolf. >> like me, you listened to the five and a half hours of question and answers, and a lot of issues were discussed. but what stands out in your mind that you did really hear? >> reporter: well, what was quite surprising and what was discussed is the situation in libya right now, where the investigation stands. where the u.s. investigation stands and what the u.s. is doing to try to bring the people
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involved in the attack to justice, because the libyan authority have either been unwilling or incapable of clamping down on these extremist militias. later, they told us that they had detained dozens of individuals for questioning. as far as we know they are all released. they believe the ones with ties to al-qaeda are acting with as much impunity today as they did back in september when the attacks took place. these are also militias, as secretary clinton herself stated, are militias that do have ties to al-qaeda. she spoke about weapons moving from terrorists to operating in mali and algeria. one would speculate what sort of incident is under way to force
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them to clamp down on the militias, or if they're not capable of doing that. what the u.s. is doing. because at the end of the day we're talking about the assassination of an american ambassador and three other americans. and those that carried out this attack are acting with complete and total impunity and have even more power now possibly than they did back then. there is a massive intimidation campaign in benghazi. security has deteriorated. we have also had an attack against the italian con sul general, numerous attacks against security. and most recently, the warning, the brits telling their nationals to evacuate benghazi, because of the threat that exists against western interests, wolf. >> arwa damon, on the scene in benghazi three days after the terror attack, long before the fbi got there. that is an amazing fact, still stands out in my mind, arwa, thank you very much. as hillary clinton ends her
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tenure of the secretary of state. the insider reveals the moment that changed her relationship with president obama. an extraordinary look at secretary clinton's world. that is ahead.
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it has been something of a good-bye tour for hillary clinton this week, testifying before congress, appearing at the president's inauguration. she is leaving the obama administration in just a few days. and the job that has transformed her image. for this extraordinary report, cnn's kate baldwin was allowed inside hillary clinton's world. >> this is the second home of one of the world's most iconic women. and we have been granted rare access as the country's top diplomat ends an unexpected
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four-year journey, working for the man with whom she once traded blows. bitter rivals, yet? >> i endorse him and throw my full support behind him. >> reporter: just as hillary clinton showed her support for president obama, obama showed his faith in clinton. >> i have no doubt that hillary clinton is the right person to lead our state department and to work with me in tackling this ambitious foreign policy agenda. >> what was hillary clinton's initial reaction when you told her look, they're actually considering you as possibility for secretary of state. >> she didn't believe it. >> reporter: he is one of clinton's closest aides. >> i e-mailed her, i think it was the friday after the election day after hearing it from two reporters. and her reply was, not for a
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million reasons. >> if she hesitated, why not just say no? >> i think she did, or she came very close, i think the president persuaded her. >> reporter: clinton was quickly confirmed, but how would she get along with the man who defeated her campaign? could she work for him? >> everybody expected there would be a lot of division, secretary of clinton going behind his back. >> reporter: so was there any tension between the people at the top? >> i think everybody has been surprised. >> reporter: surprised that while secretary clinton and president obama have been separated often as she travels the world, they have maintained a unified front. >> and she has spoken of that relationship, you know, once adversearies, they're now incredible friends.
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>> reporter: so what crystallized it? >> they were in denmark for a conference. >> reporter: obama and clinton were meeting in secret. >> president obama and secretary clinton were talking kind of alone in some hallway. and he said let's go. and she said, let's go. >> reporter: so they just kind of barged in? >> they did, they said guys, we're here, what is going on here? we're here, and they got the deal done. >> reporter: secretary clinton has logged just shy of a million miles as secretary of state, and usually on board, cnn affairs reporter elise labott. >> so this looks like a traditional plane, but as we
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move forward it is very different? >> well, that is where all the action takes place, there is a lot of communication equipment. >> this right here is the line of death. >> what is the line of death? >> well, this is where the classified material is. so they always say the journalists can't come in, because they have this classified bag, but let's cross it. and this is where the secretary does all of her business. this is her -- >> this is her cabin? >> this is her cabin. you have a deck right here, and this couch right here pulls into a bed. she has phones and secure communication. she can speak to leaders anywhere. a lot of times she will have conference calls with the white house. >> reporter: everywhere she went, clinton promoted smart power. >> smart power is using all the resources of the united states. hillary clinton sees food security, energy security, the situation of women, human rights. these are the challenges that we're going to be meeting in the
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21st century. >> reporter: smart power is one way clinton redefined the job. if she lacked foreign policy experience coming in, her finesse as a politician, it helped to shape her style. >> the basic pieces of politics is getting to know people. it is listening, understanding, hearing people's issues. and she is brilliant at that. >> reporter: one of her favorite pet projects, clean cook stoves, supplying women in developing countries with these cost-effective healthier means of cooking. as for pet peeves? >> the one that i always fear the most triggering, is she has a very strong reaction when somebody steps on the back of her foot, her shoe. a flat tire. >> because people are always following her? >> people follow her and around her, so it has a higher rate of occurrence. >> reporter: but pet projects
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and pet peeves are not what will define her legacy. what will accompany her in the history books are moments like capturing osama bin laden, the arab spring, and a terrorist attack that left four americans, including ambassador chris stevens, dead. >> oh, the benghazi situation was just personally painful for her. personally just deeply painful. she had such an amazing fondness and appreciation for the ambassador. >> reporter: lingering questions about that terrorist attack have sparked demands for accountability from members of congress. but clinton's much-anticipated testimony was put on hold due to a protracted illness. >> it was not just a concussion, it was a potentially dangerous blood clot. >> i think of her, she cannot be
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destroyed. i told her i felt sorry for the blood clot. it just didn't stand a chance against her. >> reporter: and clinton is back in business, rounding out her tenure, leaving the million dollar question, what is next for hillary? >> i'm not sure she knows entirely. she is entering a period that she has not experienced in a very long time. she well wake up on monday and not have to be anywhere she doesn't have to be. >> do you really buy that she is definitely not going to run again in 2016? >> i learned a long time ago not to predict anything about hillary clinton. >> here is what i will predict, kate is here with us, she is going to rest, she deserves a long rest. she will write a little book maybe, go out and speak, do good
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deeds out in the world. but i think that feeling she needs to run, and be the first woman president of the united states is still there. >> and many are still sure that she is going to rest. her last day at the state department will be february one, beyond that, even she doesn't know what is in her future. but she is certainly not helping to tamp down 2016. recently when she talked about retirement, she didn't say if she would use that word. >> yeah, hillary clinton and retirement don't go together. if hillary clinton and joe biden were to run in 2016 it may put president obama in an uncomfortable position. the vice president talks about his odd couple relationship to a certain degree with the president, in an exclusive interview of our own, with gloria borger. . and what girl wouldn't need new shoes? and with all the points i've been earning, i was able to get us a flight to our favorite climbing spot
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it would be hard to find anyone who appeared to be having more fun on inauguration day
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than vice president joe biden. as he and president obama begin their second term, joe biden talked about their role. >> reporter: if there is an odd couple in american politics, it is president obama and joe biden. >> what made it work, if you go back to the days when we were competing for the nomination. all the debates we had, the only two people that didn't disagree on any subject were president obama and joe biden. so when we got into this deal we didn't have what other administrations had where the vice president and president had a different take on the major issues of the day, we were totally sympatico. and what developed and made it easier, it went from working with each other for a friendship. we actually had built trust. >> you disagreed with the president over policy, and you know how to read him pretty well. so how can you tell when you
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have done something that he doesn't like or that makes him angry? >> oh, that is easy, that is easy. we made a deal early on, when one of us were dissatisfied, we just flat told the other person. and so lunch once a week, you know, that is when we talk. and when he is not -- doesn't like something i have done, he just flat tells me. >> he says joe -- >> he says joe, look, i don't agree with the way you did that. why did you do a, b, c or d, or i will say, hey, look, i don't like the way this is going. but there is complete openness, we haven't disagreed. we sometimes disagreed on tactic as to proceed on getting what he wants done, but we have never disagreed on policy. >> but there was a problem with timing when the vice president got ahead of the boss in this
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exchange on same-sex marriage on "meet the press." >> men marrying men, women marrying women, they're entitled to the same exact rights, all the civil rights and liberties. >> that caused heartburn in the west wing. >> even the so-called discussion about you know, my saying i was comfortable with gay and lesbians and relationships, i knew his position. >> but you got out in front of him on it, and that is -- that can be a problem. >> i can tell you how i responded. i walked into the office. he got up, smiled, gave me a big hug, said tell you what, man, you say what is on your mind. >> you said it caused a bit of a problem here? >> it did, but not with him, not with him. >> lately joe biden has become the white house closer, cutting the deal on the fiscal cliff and trying to get one on guns. >> are you the only one who can cut deals with republicans now. >> no, no, look, first of all
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the only reason i would be able to close a deal is because everybody knows i speak for the president. i have his complete support for what i'm saying because i know what he wants, number one, number two, you know i think the reason we make a good team. tip o'neill used to say, you will recall, politics is local. you heard me say i seldom disagree with tip o'neill, god rest his soul. but politics is all personal and based on trust. and i have spent a lot of time in this town and have personal relationships where i strongly disagree with them, but there is trust. and so i am a logical person, a logical person to as they say, you guys say close a deal. but it is the president, it is not me. it is the president. >> look, it is no secret that you and the president are very different people. you are hot, he is cool. you're a natural back slapper. he has been accused of being more insular.
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does the marriage work because he married his opposite? >> well, look, i think what you hope, he used this phrase one time, we kind of make up for whatever weaknesses the other guy has. and i have a heck of a lot more weaknesses than he does. the one place is that i just have had a lot of experience with a lot of the people we deal with. and you know, everybody talks about well, it is -- you know, it is back slapping -- it is not. it is trust. it is simple. simple trust. find a single person and you know this town better, who will look you in the eye and say i don't trust joe biden. it is just i have been around longer. and they know me, and they also know i speak for him and he will keep whatever commitment i make on his behalf. >> more of gloria's interview with the vice president right after this.
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now, more of gloria borger's interview with vice president joe biden. >> yeah, well -- >> just days ago i met with joe biden to talk about his last four years as the president's right-hand man and his adjustment to the job. >> if there was an aha moment
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whether the job was worth it, when he asked me to coordinate iraq policy to end the war in iraq, early on in the administration? >> it was december, 2011. biden traveled to baghdad with a message from the president. >> i was able to say to the american troops gathered, gentlemen and ladies you're dismissed because you have done the job you were sent to do, and like all americans you're going home with nothing but your pride and the knowledge of a job well done. i got off that stage. it was a moving moment for me. went back, picked up the phone, i said you know i have been kidding you whether or not the job was worth it, thank you for asking me to do this job. this has made it all worth it. >> the job has had its ups and downs, biden's infamous candor has made him an issue. but here is why this team works,
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as much as president obama dislikes the congressional drama, biden thrives on it. 40 years to be exact, that is one reason he is running the initiative on the president's gun control. >> i have done this before, i passed the assault weapon -- >> more than 20 years ago? >> yes, and because the so-called biden crime bill had a certain shelf life, there was no decision to renew it. but that did not mean there was not a consensus for the bulk of what we're proposing. >> so can you guarantee that the president will sign some form of major gun legislation? >> look, i can't guarantee anything that congress is going to do. you know that, but i can guarantee that the president and i are absolutely committed to take this fight to the american people, for a rational gun
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safety policy in america. >> and he is smack in the middle of the fiscal fight. he cut the deal to avoid the nose dive off the fiscal cliff. now he is ready for round two. and predicts republicans will be different. >> they finally have figured it out. all of this bluster about you're going to renege on the debt, they will not. because there are more responsible people in that party than irresponsible. so it is not going to happen. now, will there be a fight over how we finish out what we started off to do? a grand bargain. we've said from the beginning there is a balance here. the american people get this. this is not that complicated. politically it is complicated. but not with the math. we have to finish out the grand bargain to get us to the point -- i sound like an economist here, where debt to gdp is about 3%. every chemist, left, right and center says that when that
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happens the economy grows. >> but where does biden go next? looking ahead, four years, you made it clear one way or the other that you will consider a presidential bid of your own. is there any reason you wouldn't run? >> oh, there is a whole lot of reasons why i wouldn't run. i haven't made the decision and don't have to for a while. meanwhile, there is one thing i have to do no matter what i do. i have to help this president move this country to the next stage. we're out of the god-awful situation we were in the first time when we were sworn in. where we had two wars, al-qaeda moving forward, the economy in the tank like it had not been since the great depression. we're beyond that now, i have never been more optimistic in in life. we are in the position where we are able to get to the point to bring the debt under control, sound financial policy, energy independence in a way we never thought of before. we're respected in the world again like we have not been in
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the past 20 years. >> so are you ready run against hillary clinton in the next four years? >> i haven't made that judgment, and hillary clinton has not made that judgment. but i can tell you everything that should be done in the next two years that i should have a part of would have to be done whether i run or don't run. if this administration is successful, whoever is running as a democrat is better positioned to win. if we're not successful, whoever runs as a nominee is going to be less likely to win. >> with joe biden and hillary clinton both in the spotlight this week, talk of 2016 is swirl i ing. [ male announcer ] some day, your life will flash before your eyes. make it worth watching. introducing the 2013 lexus ls. an entirely new pursuit. introducing the 2013 lexus ls. as you can see, geico's customer satisfaction is at 97%. mmmm tasty. and cut! very good.
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>> president obama's second term is only just getting started, but talk of 2016 was unvoidable this past week with the pot light on hillary clinton and joe biden. according to the latest poll, 67% of those surveyed have a favorable impression of the secretary of state and 48% have a favorable view of the vice president, joining us is our anchor of cnn state of the
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union, the i guess political news junkies like us, we cannot help ourselves. >> we have to talk about it. but it looked like joe biden was so excited out there, on that parade route. >> it's no secret that he wants to be president and wanted to for some time. all things being equal, wants to run. and he is -- right now, you know, with the height of his career. the differences between joe biden and hillary clinton in that polling, it's the difference between a politician and diplomat. should she decide to run, the numbers will even up. it will be a heck of a race. >> many of the members of the senate were joking about hillary clinton in 2016. listen to this. >> you will be sorely missed. but i for one hope, not for too
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long. >>late me thank you for your service, and i wish you the best in your future endeavors, mostly. >> i salute you and i look ahead to 2016, wishi inin ining much and extending to you my highest regards. >> if she decides to run, we have no why if she will, these 5-1/2 hours on benghazi, will it be a factor? >> i think there's things in there, i thought her exchange when she got very aggressive about what does it matter, i think it's something that only helps a female politician, here she is the brave hillary taking on all of these men, etcetera, and there were things in there that the republicans will say, remember when she said this? what does it matter? people can take things out, if she runs, they can take things out of it, both sides to talk
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about how brave she was or how she doesn't care. whichever way. do i think it's a dee fining moment for her politically? this is a woman that has so many dee fining political moments, it's difficult to choose one that will be the moment, there's lots of moments in her public life. looking forward to state of the union, 9:00 eastern on sunday morning right here on cnn, thank you. >> thank you. >> among her guests will be dianne feinstein of california, and it's not just the president getting a second term, his daughters are now facing four more years in the spotlight.
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>> here is a look at the hour's hot shots. in england a van drives down a road surrounded by snow covered trees and people ride in a bamboo raft, and in india, police officers march through a rehearsal and a boy tries to move a donkey in a refuge camp, pictures coming in from around the world. watching all the inaugural activity this weekend, it was hard not to notice how much the obama girls have grown up.
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here is lisa sylvestre. >> malia obama and sasha obama. >> there's not too many girls that walk out to a crowd of millions but this is just a part of their lives. the girls have changed on the outside since the first inauguration, but more than that, there's a new-found grace and poise, and something else, a sense of normal. it shows in moments like these, they are waving to family and friends in the inaugural parade reviewing stand and malia showing her hip side. a few minutes later, breaking out their phones to get a picture of mom and dad kissing. >> sasha taking a picture of mom and dad, nice, very nice. >> the girls are at the middle point of childhood, between being a kid and heading to college. we have watched them grow up inside the white house and now we have for more years to go, including the