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one hour from now. another edition of "360" at 10:00 p.m. eastern. thank you very much for watching. "piers morgan live" starts right now. this is "piers morgan live." tonight, heroes, hope, and the big two questions. who did it and why? stories of courage and loss from the boston bombing, the city and the nation remembers the victims and searches for answers. i'll talk to grieving friends of 8-year-old martin richard and the bride and groom who escaped the marathon with their lives and said "i do" right afterwards. here's what we know, a photo taken by a member of the public before the twin blasts shows a light-colored bag on the sidewalk next to a mailbox, pretty close to the point of detonation. a second photo shows the scene immediately afterwards. the fbi is examining the two photographs. they believe the bombs were in a
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dark-colored bag or backpack. federal law enforcement sources tell cnn the devices were inside pressure cookers and they believe bbs and nails were part of the explosives. important to know that so far nobody has claimed responsibility. the toll of injured up to 183, three more have died, including 8-year-old martin richard, and krystle campbell. president obama will travel to boston on thursday. now we go to chris cuomo live for us in boston. it seems here we are 24 hours more or later and nobody seems to have a real clue who has done this or why. >> reporter: that shouldn't be surprising, piers, these investigations take a very long time to develop, especially starting with being multifactorial, no group claiming responsibility. so much ground to canvas, this is going to be a difficult investigation. i think it's good news that the
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authorities said in their presser that they're in no rush. very often as we both know, haste makes waste when it comes to an investigation. this is about getting it right. >> that is true. i imagine there'll be some people in boston who will be concerned for their safety. that the perpetrator of this atrocity is still at large. >> that's absolutely true. at least that's what they believe at this time, piers. but what is also true, there's never been as large a military and police presence in this city as there is right now. in the presser, they asked for patience, they're going to try to collapse the zone that they are keeping closed right now. as small as they can. so normal life can go on. but there is a huge security presence here. you have all the federal agencies involved. this should be the safest city in the world right now. >> it seems miraculous, chris, that you and i have seen many, many gruesome pictures not been seen by the majority of the public. it seems miraculous to me that
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the death toll is only still at three people. >> yes, it's also miraculous that our tent didn't fly away. it's okay. the tent was going there. if i take off all of a sudden, tell them we're okay. i think that it is a very good sign about the humanity involved in this situation that those photos haven't popped out more than they have. they're out there. if you want to go out, if you want to see exactly what happens when this type of explosive bomb with shrapnel goes off. you can see it. we've seen it. we've seen too much of it here. i think it's a good sign about the humanity involved that they're not more in circulation than they are right now. but i will tell you, and a little debatable for us in this business. i think if you had seen those photos, it would give you a different recognition of what's at stake in these situations and would give you such a respect for what happened on the ground here. people coming forward was so extraordinary that i can't believe we have so many injured and such a low death toll. thank god we do.
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three people, one is too many. but if you've seen the photos, you'd see what amazing things have been done here. >> yeah, and the point i was making, chris, when your roof caved in was just that it does seem a complete miracle and probably a testament to the brilliance of the first responders and the speed of which they moved and all the medics involved in this that the death toll remained so low. because the injuries were so appalling to so many others. >> absolutely accurate, piers. and i'll tell you, it's one facet of the story giving us extraordinary detail. for example, we know now the three people lost in this whose lives are gone. hopefully there are no more. those people still struggling for their lives in the hospital. one of them, krystle campbell, 29 years old, loved by the people at her restaurant. young life in front of her. we sat down with her grandmother to find out who she was as opposed to just how she was defined by how she died. we sat down with her grandmother
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and her grandmother told us she was her favorite and explains why she knows that her krystle is an angel. take a look. >> what do you think when you see this photo? >> beauty. >> what was she like in high school? >> smiling all the time. all the time she smiled. to matter what happened, she'd come out with a smile. i used to dress her up. love to dress her up and put her hair in long curls and she loved it. she'd go out prancing, proud as anything to school. and then in school the teachers would say, oh, krystle, you look so beautiful. who did your hair? my nanna did my hair. >> you had a special bond from when she was little. >> oh, gosh, yes. >> how did krystle make you feel? >> oh, my whole heart and soul.
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she was in. and she made me feel that way. she made me happy. i used to look forward to her coming over to see me. >> and as she grew up, she didn't change. she still came. >> she still came and still made me feel the same way, happy. >> what kind of young woman did she become? >> smart. ambitious and loving. she wanted -- she never complained what she wanted. she just used to say, well, just take one day at a time, nanna, see what happens. >> she just took life as it came. >> she loved life. >> lots of friends? >> oh, lots of friends. lots of friends. her attitude and her bubbliness.
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she was so bubbly all the time and laughing. >> when she got a little older, there was a time when you got a little sick and she was there for you. >> yes. definitely. >> tell me about it. >> when i'd come home from the hospital, she come over one day and said, nanna, i think maybe i want to move in with you. i says, why? she says, well, i just think you should have somebody with you here to stay with you to make sure you're okay. i said you really want to do that, krystle? your whole life is ahead of you. she says, well, i can -- i'll make it. i'll arrange it so i'll be here with you. >> what did that mean to you? >> oh, everything. everything. it did me so well because i felt good and i felt comfortable and safe with her in the house with me. >> solidified her as number one too, right? that was after that.
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everybody else was in a race for second. >> exactly. >> what do you think when you see her on the tv? >> huh? >> what do you think when you see her there? >> i wish i could go up and grab her and kiss her. i can still feel her. >> how do you make sense of this? >> i don't. i can't believe it happened. i can't believe it. i won't even accept it now and i'm sitting here with you. i'm having a hard time when i see her on the tv. it's killing me inside. >> it's not real? >> huh? >> you can't believe something that this would happen to someone you love? >> it's the farthest thing from my mind. >> how are you going to remember krystle? >> with love. all my love will be there forever. my heart. she's in my heart. always is. all of them. that's my krystle and she'll always be my krystle.
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i love her. i love her so much. i love all of them. but she's my special one. >> reporter: breaks your heart. she went to the marathon to have fun like she did every year. but grandma wilma wanted to talk. she wanted her to be defined by more than just her death. we have here, piers, an 8-year-old boy, could be anybody's son, a student, a graduate student and krystle 29 years old, a young woman with everything to look forward to. these stories are important because they remind us to connect to who was lost, to understand what it means to value the people that are no more after these situations. and we really do thank that special grandma for sitting down with us, piers. >> it was an extraordinarily moving interview, chris. i detect a real spirit too amongst the people of boston. watching you throughout the day along with many other cnn correspondents and anchors. and it's just very, very
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inspiring to see the way they're responding to this. this could crush a city in different circumstances. but boston seems to be rallying very, very hard here. >> oh, demonstrably so. we know what happened that day, we know how people stepped up. we see how they're staying in the city, going past the sensitive areas, laying flowers, consoling each other. saying they picked the wrong city, pal, the wrong city. they're tough and they have heart and it's going to get them through a difficult situation. >> thank you very much, indeed. well, the most heartbreaking story out of this tragedy, the death of 8-year-old martin richard. here he is in the photo taken last year holding a sign that reads "no more hurting people, peace." his mother and 6-year-old sister were seriously injured in the blast. joining me now is the richards'
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family babysitter. an appalling thing to happen to this family that you've known well for a number of years. you've babysat for the family for the last three years, what do you know about the condition, first of all, of poor martin's mother and his sister? >> martin was a great kid. he was very well rounded. every time i babysat, it was my pleasure to babysit him. his sister is also a pleasure to babysit. she's adorable and they're great kids and it's such a tragedy. and their mom is a great lady too. also the father, bill, he's a wonderful guy. they're just so polite and nice, and it's such a sad tragedy it had to happen to that family. but everybody's coping the best they can and we're doing all we can do as a community. everyone's contributing to the community and doing whatever they can do to just help them and be helpful to the family at this time of need. >> martin seems to have been a
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really bright, cheerful little boy with his whole life ahead of him. tell me more about the kind of boy he was. >> yes, every time i babysat him, as soon as i walked through the door, he came running towards me. and he had a bright smile that nobody could ever forget. he was never sad or down, he was always happy and cheerful and ready to go. he was just all around a wonderful kid. and it's really unfortunate that it had to happen to him at such a young age. >> i know your family knows the richard family well. seeing lots of concerns that martin's mother denise suffered a severe brain injury, we believe, and also for his sister jane who we think has lost a leg and has serious injuries to her second leg. do you know any more about their condition? >> i haven't heard. i've been waiting for a reply
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from certain people. as of right now, what you just said, what you stated was correct. i haven't heard any new news on it. i'm just hoping they're doing well as of right now. >> katelyn, how did you hear about what happened? >> i had heard from another friend of mine she called and told me. i knew right then and there, it was someone from dorchester, i heard narrtheir names, my heart broke. as soon as i heard it. emotions were just -- they came running through you and i just lost it. it was difficult to deal with. especially right when i heard because i wasn't home. i went home immediately and just broke down. there's no words to describe it. it's just so tragic. >> they seem like a nice family all around. is that your take on the richard family? >> yes, the richard family all around from denise to the father
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bill to henry, martin and jane, they were always just so welcoming and kind and i really enjoyed babysitting for them. they always left me with memories that i'll never forget and i can always just picture hearing his little laugh and smile. and it's something that you just can't forget and you would never forget. and i'm lucky that i've gotten to know them and i'm always going to be there for whatever they need me to be there for. so i'm hoping that we can help them all get through this as good as we can because they really could use everyone's support now. and i'm glad that everyone got to come together and just be there for them because it really means a lot to them, i'm sure. >> you've just been at the vigil down there for the family and obviously for martin in particular, what was the vigil like? >> the vigil was amazing. everybody had their candles lit
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and the priest said a really nice thing and read from the bible. and it was just everyone was together and that's what i think makes a difference is when your community comes together in such a tragic time. and that's really what the family needs at this time. i think that if they know that all these people are behind them and are supporting them, it makes it that much easier for them and that much -- it helps them so much. i think they would really appreciate it. it was just touching. i mean, i think that at times like this it's good to get together and just all be together as one. there was not a dry eye in the park. it was just such a touching time. it had everybody either crying or speaking about it. but it's good to know that everyone is remembering him as the bright kid he was because he was an amazing kid. >> katelyn, thank you very much for joining me.
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>> you're welcome. when we come back, the very latest on the boston bombing investigation and breaking news out of washington. a ricin laced envelope addressed to senator wicker, is it part of a plot? anyone have occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas, bloating? yes! one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day
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another breaking story out of washington and a disturbing one. an envelope with the poison ricin sent to the office of a u.s. senator. dana bash and mike brooks broke the story.
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dana joins me now. dana, pretty serious this, what do we know? >> well, at this point, we are told this is according to the senate sergeant in arms terry gainor that the envelope did test positive at the lab. they did original testing in the field at the offsite facility. but this is later today they got a positive test at the actual lab. that's why they feel so positive at this point it was positive. what we're also told is that the exterior markings on this envelope sent to roger wicker of mississippi weren't outwardly mysterious. it was postmarked from memphis, tennessee, but it did not have a return address. that is something that is definitely raising the suspicion and caution of senate officials because they told senators in the briefing today, piers, reminded them, you've got to tell your employees to be very, very vigilant but also reminded them, this is the reason they
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have offsite facilities now. mail to the capitol does not go to the capitol complex. it first goes offsite for this very reason. the other precaution they are taking, they are going to close those postal facilities while they investigate this. >> it is a pretty deadly poison, not as deadly as anthrax. i'll come to that in a moment. is there any connection between this and what happened in boston? or has that already been ruled out? >> at this point, law enforcement officials, senate officials are saying they do not think there is a connection and they're emphasizing that. but is just coincidence when it comes to timing. obviously this is the very beginning. i'm told by a law enforcement official tonight they do not have anybody in custody that they're still very much an open investigation as to who sent this letter. they feel pretty confident there is no connection between this and what happened yesterday in boston. >> dana bash, thank you very much. let's bring in congressman adam
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schiff and the former director of national intelligence. welcome to you both, gentlemen. >> thank you. >> here we are more than a day later after this what was the worst terror attack on american land since 9/11 and we don't know much about who may have done this or what motive, do we? let me start with you, ambassador. what is your take on where this investigation may be going? >> well, i really do think we have to be patient and wait and see. it's too early to say. it certainly doesn't -- there aren't any markings or indications as of yet of any foreign involvement, although that's obviously something that everybody must be looking out for. but so far, we haven't seen any such indication. >> congressman schiff, depending on who i've been watching or listening to or reading today, opinion wildly fluctuating in terms of speculative theorys.
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anything from an al qaeda-related attack to a domestic home grown attack. have you got any inside track intelligence whatsoever that would hint at either of those two? >> we had a initial briefing tonight by the director of the fbi as well as secretary north america napolitano. they were tight-lipped. i think you can understand why when the intelligence agency has got benghazi wrong initially. they don't want to make that mistake again. there are a lot of indicators that could point into different directions. the simultaneous attacks or almost simultaneous attacks is a hallmark of the overseas attacks we've seen. at the same time, the unsophisticated nature could be the product of a home brogrown terrorist or self-radicalized person. i will say this, piers, i'm optimistic this won't be the kind of investigation that will linger for years like atlanta. there is so much video footage,
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there's so much technological information to put together here. someone has seen something, someone has captured something on film. and i'm hopeful that this won't be the kind of long, protracted investigation that we have sometimes seen in the past. >> ambassador, some people have been criticizing the fact that this can happen at such a hugely well-policed, high security situation like a massive city marathon in america. that this act can be perpetrated and the person or persons that did it can apparently disappear into thin air. is there any realistic criticism that should be leveled to anyone here? >> well, i certainly wouldn't do that. after all, we're talking about a competition being carried out in a large public area. it's a big city.
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the route is 26 miles long. we all know when it comes to access to confined spaces that we can really control these kinds of situations. and i would add that the response after the event has been absolutely magnificent. your on reportage has been covering that in exhaustive detail. and we've got to hand it to the people who have done such a magnificent job in responding to this situation. >> i completely concur with that. in terms of where the fbi are with the investigation, they have gone to lengths stopping people at the airport and asking them for videos or pictures. some say a sign of desperation, others say a sign of being incredibly methodical. perhaps both. what is your view of that? >> well, i think it is -- i think it's very smart of them and this might be part of the lessons learned after new york. you've got to cast a broad net, think about where are your potential witnesses. here's an event that drew people
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from around the country, indeed around the world. and before those people scattered to the winds, you want to talk with them. find out if they have footage to share. that's much easier to do now than it may be to try to chase them down later. very smart move, i think, and, you know, again i agree with john completely. you're never going to be able to prevent particularly smaller attacks in large athletic events and other public gatherings. we're not going to be willing to sacrifice so much of our ability of freedom of movement and privacy in order to make that happen. but we should judge this by how well we're responding and we are responding, i think, extraordinarily well just as you've been covering. >> congressman and ambassador, thank you very much, indeed. >> thank you. >> a profile of killer or killers. home grown terrorists or someone from abroad or a threat from overseas. the latest clues in the investigation coming up next.
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the person who did this is someone's friend, neighbor, co-worker or relative. we are asking anyone who may have heard someone speak about the marathon or the date of april 15th in any way that indicated that he or she may target the event to call us. someone knows who did this. >> someone probably does know who did this. the hope is that he or she will turn in the boston bomber.
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fo welcome to you all. let's start from the premise that none of you know the answer of what we're about to discuss. but what i do want to do is explore the theories. between the three of you, i'm hoping we can at least get to a position of some clarity as to where we may be heading here with the investigation. let me start with you, mark. from everything that you've seen and read, do you see real signs that this is more likely to be some form of domestic extremist attack? >> well, honestly, piers, i'm not sure that we know that. there are some indicators that suggest it's conceivable that it was related to, in particular, this thing patriots day. patriots day is actually on april 19th, it's this friday. but in massachusetts, it's celebrated on monday.
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it celebrates, of course, the american revolutionary war, the first shots fired in concord and lexington. but in the world i cover, it is really known for being the opening of the revolutionary war, the beginning of the warsaw ghetto uprising, a big raid in 1985 of white supremacist compound in arkansas, and probably most importantly, the end of waco where 80 people died in a fire and two years later payback for the events in waco in '95. so, you know, that day is kind of an iconic date on the calendar. however, i've got to say, what the date that is important to these people is not the third monday in april as is celebrated in massachusetts but the actual date of april 19th. >> bob baird, you've done many operations with the cia. with what you've seen and read, where is your head going with this? >> well, there are a couple of
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observations i have, piers, and one is the fact that there were two explosive devices used. they went off fairly reliablely. that's not easy to do. i've made these improvised devices myself. i've watched instructors do it. it's difficult. the timing devices inevitably one doesn't go off or there's a low order of explosives. so somebody knew what they were doing, at least had some practice. two is -- >> i don't know if you can see these pictures, but we're actually showing new images of what the police and fbi believe are the devices or part of the devices that may have been used here. it's wga. can you see these pictures, bob? >> no, i can't see them. but i know it's a pressure cooker. >> right. >> and pressure cookers are commonly used in the middle east. in fact, in the '80s, the cia trained the afghans to use small stoves or pressure cookers
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against the soviet red army. but that doesn't mean anything. you can get on the internet and look this stuff up. the timers, you can look it up. if a cell phone was used, you can look that up and see how to do it. the point is the actual practice. i really do believe somebody knew what they were doing on this. but number two i'd like to say, the fact that nobody's claimed it tells me it isn't al qaeda. this would be a huge break for them, and they would say something at this point, make further threats, it's in their m.o. so if i were forced to make a vote, i would say it's domestic. >> fran townsend, that is the way a lot of people are beginning to think. of course, we have to keep reminding everyone, nobody knows. what do you make of the way the investigation is unfurling here? >> piers, what i would say is actually i think the answer is something a little bit in the middle of your -- bob baird and
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mark what they're saying to you. i think what we're most likely seeing is a domestic, home grown lone wolf or a small group who are inspired by jihadist. it's on the website, the "inspire" magazine, that's the al qaeda publication where you find a lot of the information bob was talking about in terms of building these kinds of devices, targeting large groups and multiple simultaneous attacks like we saw at the finish of the boston marathon. and so it may be as we said a little bit of both, right, it may be a domestic incident in the sense it's home grown. but the link may be the inspiration. sort of like nadal hassan the ft.shooter. >> if it is a domestic terror attack, is it more likely from your experience to be a lone wolf or part of an existing group?
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>> well, i think in general, it's more likely to be a lone wolf. the nonislamic radical right. they don't tend to be carried out in groups at all. i think there's something that was just said, it may be, in fact, a home grown radical. but perhaps of the jihadist sort. and the reason i think of about that is think about the targets there. this is not a target one would associate with a radical right-wing bomber. it was not a government building, not the irs, although it was tax day on monday. it was not a minority group, it wasn't black people or jewish people or gay people or muslims. in fact, the only thing really that the victims, the targets shared in common seems to me is they were americans. that does suggest a broader kind of attack and perhaps one that's not linked to the world that we cover. >> of course one of the three dead has been identified now the
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chinese citizens. this is not just an attack on america and americans, but a global attack in that sense. what would be the repercussions for argument sake it does turn out to be some sort of al qaeda related attack in terms of the impact on countries like china who have been affected. >> well, the chinese have been the victims of al qaeda in the weaker part of the country. and if you take the tact that it was al qaeda. remember all they care about is causing mass casualties. as many as they can. they do believe that will stop occupation of the middle east. while we're more guilty than the chinese, the chinese are no less guilty of oppressing muslims. the point is to attack the west until it picks up and leaves the middle east. and this ideology, you can also pick up on the internet and it can be turned against us at any moment. and remember, there is no play
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book for al qaeda. a lot of these bombings in london, the airplane bombings, it was young kids who just decided that's what they were going to do. to go back on what i said about no claim, well, there is no set standard for an attack like this. and we're really not going to know until they get the forensics, until they get a picture. you know, we're so far away from a solution on this. >> yeah, we are. and keep stressing that nobody knows the answers to these questions, pure theorizing. but what everyone in america is talking about. fran finally and quickly, does the fact that al qaeda haven't claimed any responsibility or none of their affiliate groups, is that significant? or i think from memory, sometimes waited several months before doing that. that may not be particularly relevant. >> that's right, piers. sometimes they wait, they'll release a sort of martyr's video. that is someone who is responsible or killed in the attack.
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pretaped the video they released much later, or it's more difficult for them to communicate. the head of al qaeda might release a video many months later when he can get it out claiming responsibility. i think typically if it's al qaeda related you'd see a claim nk youll very much. coming up, the scene of the horror. i'll talk to eyewitnesss and a hero who raced to save the victims. #%tia[ [ female announcer ] research suggests cell health
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♪ >> yankees paying tribute to the victims in boston playing "sweet caroline." and in cleveland where the red sox play the indians today, moment of silence for those killed in the bombings. tonight we have incredible stories of survival and heroism. with me now john nixon who helped rescue innocent bystande bystanders. kevin cullen, you wrote a moving piece today in which you said we lost our innocence on another
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perfect day in september 12 years ago and lost something monday too, and that is the idea we'll ever feel totally safe in this city again. is that how you think many people in boston feel today? >> well, piers, i think that when i wrote that, i probably was a little more despondent than i should've been. i was sad yesterday, i'm angry today and i got that sense from the city today talking to people. we will never be the same. it's just that new york was -- will never be the same after 9/11. that doesn't mean that whoever did this has won. that whoever did this -- because this is a very tough town. we take only three things seriously here and that's sports, politics and revenge. and i think it's going to take a lot more than what was done yesterday to knock a town like boston out. and i really sense that across the city today that people were
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angry and that people were absolutely determined. you know, i was in northern ireland in 1998 three hours after that bomb went off and i was in london within eight hours after the 7/7 bombing. and what i experienced in london after those atrocities, i experienced today in my hometown. and it was a deep sadness followed by a resoluteness that these people will not get to us. we will not let them win. and i will predict, piers, next year, we will have the biggest boston marathon ever. they'll have to turn people away. people will come from all over the world as they always do. but they will come in greater numbers next year because we need to show whoever did this they did not win one thing. >> i totally endorse those words. you were with your friend carlos and you were seeing lots of
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images of carlos and his cowboy hat performing great acts of heroic courage. you were standing in the first row of the bleachers when the bomb went off. what was your reaction? and the reason i'm so interested is you're a vietnam veteran. you've been in war zones. >> i just immediately thought it was a terrorist attack. i kind of lost my balance on the step and my immediate thought was my daughter was heading down to to meet us down there. and i quickly grabbed the phone to call her. and then there was such confusion that i actually jumped over the fence and i saw carlos and he kind of blessed himself and pointed across the street and we both ran over there. i was starting to rip the fence down and carlos didn't wait for us to rip the fence down. he scaled over the fence and over the scaffolding and started to attend to some of the
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victims. i knew i didn't have any first aid training so there was really -- it was only -- i was trying to remove the fence and didn't know what i was really going to do after that. for something just added that mr. collins just said, i ran the new york city marathon two months after 9/11 with the boston marathon race director, and he's right, there was a huge turnout even though it was only two months right after 9/11. >> it is. i mean, kevin, it does change everything. but out of terrible incidents like this you hint to that, you can have a renewed strength and a renewed sense of spirit that comes through cities like boston. and i'm already detecting that i have to say that from all of the people that you've talked to, what is the feeling you're beginning to pick up now? is it one of not just resolution, but determination not to be beaten? >> determination not to change our lifestyle, not to make --
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not to give into the intimidation that is at the heart of all terrorist acts. terrorism is about creating fear and making you change the way you live. and we will not do that. i refuse to do it. the day after the 7/7 bombings, piers, i rode the tube. and today i walk throughout the back bay up and down, obviously, boylston street, that section was sealed off. but there were people doing the same thing. there was one guy, the young guy playing a lovely alto sax playing "over the rainbow" and great jazz standards, and that was the sort of attitude. it was like, the best way i could -- boston, we gave the middle finger to those guys whoever they are. we're not going to change. we refuse to change. >> kevin cullen and john nixon, thank you both for joining me. >> thanks, piers. coming up next, love
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it's being told by robin watson and her fiance. they ran the race and they were determined to get married after the race. that's exactly what they did. welcome to you both. an extraordinarily uplifting story amid so much tragedy and despair. i know it was your plan to always get married after the marathon, but once you realized what had happened, did you have any second thoughts, any doubts that you should go through with it? >> well, we were not going to cancel our wedding, but we did think about possibly postpo pos it or coming up with alternative plans. we were hearing all sorts of things like they may evacuate downtown or boston commons may be closed. we had reservations for dinner after our ceremony, would that place be open as well, so we did consider alternatives. but in the end, we didn't want -- you know, if this is an act of terrorism, we did not
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want that to alter us. we were going to proceed one way or the other. >> robert, obviously when you realized the scale of what had happened, after horror and devastation everywhere, did that make you even more determined to go through this, as kelly said, to make sure the terrorist didn't win? >> absolutely. terrorists, their ultimate goal is to alter our way of life and to stop us from carrying out our normal activities, and i was even more determined when we figured out it was an act of terrorism, that we were not going to be deterred from moving forward and proceeding with our wedding. >> kelly, you're both very active runners, and you had athletic gear in your wedding and it's a big part of your lives. this is a clear assault on a way of life that so many athletes and athletes around the country
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love. what do you make of the people or the person that did this? >> right now, you can't make sense of it. there are so many questions. today has been filled with all sorts of emotions for us, fromie la -- from elation of what we accomplished yesterday in the race, of our wedding, and of going to the opposite extreme with just such sorrow and grief for all the victims. and even the people who couldn't finish, everybody running in the race yesterday put in a ton of work to get here. so not to be able to complete it would be frustrating for me as well. so it's in descridescribable, r. >> it's an unimaginable act. i couldn't imagine what kind of monster would do something like this.
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>> it is unimaginable, it is monstrous, but i think your story is an uplifting one. it's great you stuck to your plans, you defied terrorists, you weren't going to change your happy day at the end, and i think everyone watching this will be delighted you did it, and i congratulate you both on becoming husband and wife. well done. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> we'll be right back with more on the boston bombing. [ male announcer ] at his current pace, bob will retire when he's 153, which would be fine if bob were a vampire. but he's not.
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