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i'm wolf blitzer reporting live from boston. >> and i'm fredricka whitfield in atlanta. welcome to this special edition of the "cnn newsroom." wolf. >> we're learning, fred, new developments in the boston marathon bombing suspect investigation. new exclusive information about a jihadist video that the older brother, the 26-year-old tamerlan tsarnaev, had posted on his youtube account. we're going to show you that in just a few moments. stand by for that. first, i want to update all of our viewers on the surviving suspect, the younger brother,
19-year-old dzhokhar tsarnaev. he's still hospitalized in what doctors describe as serious but stable condition. federal officials say he has injuries to his throat. he's unable to speak. he could be charged, though, by federal prosecutors as early as today. right at his hospital bedside. you just heard that from the attorney general of massachusetts, martha coakley, in our interview here in boston. for more, though, on what's going on, let's bring in our crime and justice correspondent joe johns. he's working his sources over at the justice department. the fbi, elsewhere, what are officials telling you, joe, about this proceeding? truly extraordinary proceeding that could happen at the hospital at the suspect's bedside? >> well, wolf, our sources have told us it's possible we could see charges against this suspect today, but there's no guarantee, and not clear at all when a
presentment of the suspect before a judge or magistrate might actually happen. we heard as recently as yesterday that authorities were contemplating a terrorism charge, most likely relating to use of weapons of mass destruction. there's also a possibility of a state murder charge as well, as well as a firearms charge, perhaps use of a firearm in commission of a felony, conspiracy certainly is out there because authorities allege that this suspect worked on all of this with his brother, wolf. >> and i want you to show our viewers, joe, some of the new video of the suspect's dramatic capture friday night in a boston suburb, watertown. what does it show us? >> wolf, this is video of jihar tsarnaev in the boat. it was taken from above. some of it was -- i'm sorry, this here is video of the individual that you have been reporting on for a while. but the video you're talking about, there were initial
reports of a man down in the boat. they quickly learned he was moving around. there you go. we knew that authorities were reaching out to this individual, trying to communicate with him. telling him, for example, to come out on his own terms. this apparently went on for about 25 minutes or so. and then after that short amount of time, he ended up surrendering to the authorities with a very serious injury. wolf. >> so we're just standing by. we're waiting for official word from the justice department. i assume the initial word will come in washington. this is a federal prosecution that's in the works. official word will come from the justice department in washington. is that right, joe? >> that's highly likely because as you said, this is something that washington is going to be very heavily involved in. we have hopes that we'll see a news conference if charges are filed against this individual,
but it's all up to the authorities. and we're just waiting and watching the e-mail to see what happens now. >> he'll hear what eric holder if he shows us, the attorney general of the united states, has to say. we'll stay in touch with you. meanwhile, any moment now, we'll hear from the family of the police officer who was wounded chasing these two bombing suspects the other night. the family of massachusetts transportation authority officer richard donohue jr., will be meeting with reporters shortly. we're going to have live coverage of that as soon as begins. we'll hear what the family of richard donohue has to say. we're also learning more about the suspects from the russian republic of dagestan where the suspect once lived. nick peyton walsh traveled to the region. it's near chechnya. i wanted to pick up on this jihadist video that tamerlan tsarnaev, the older brother, had on his youtube channel.
a video that has since been deleted. nick, what can you tell us about the man who was featured in this jihadi video? >> reporter: like you say, this is a video which was linked from his youtube channel. since deleted and taken down. we have subquently found that video online, and it shows a man called abu dujana, his nickname here. he was reported to be a man, a militant, reasonably well known in the parts of many different crimes by authorities, but importantly, not far from where i'm standing, in a pretty heavy firefight with russian special forces, only in december. the russians had to bring in an armored car to end this particular firefight. he was killed along with a number of accomplices. we have been to the site of the destruction. it's quite intense here. so what we have at this
particular point is potentially the first connection between one of the alleged boston bombers and some sort of extremist or militancy here in the north caucuses. it was taken down from the youtube channel, but i should point out at roughly the same time, he was sprizting his family, and mr. dujana was here, and there's no indication if they met or if he posted other videos, but we know the u.s. official is saying to us they are examining his social media for links towards any kind of extremism here in the north caucuses, and many people are still asking what was the motivation behind the boston bombing? mr. tsarnaev was one of them. >> lots of unanswered questions with the older brother did in those six months he spent in
dagestan, and maybe in chechnya last year. stand by, nick. we'll be coming back to you. dzhokhar tsarnaev is now hospitalized in serious but stable condition. doctors say he's lucky to be alive after that dramatic shootout with police officers that wound up killing his older brother. elizabeth cohen standing outside the beth israel deaconess medical center where he's being treated. what do we know about his condition specifically, elizabeth? >> wolf, according to our affiliate, whgh, tsarnaev is in the intensive care unit, and cnn sources tell us -- sources tell cnn he has wounds to the throughothroat and he is sedated and intubated. intubation means a tube is placed usually down the throat into the windpipe and is attached to the ventilator and that ventilator breets for him.
it doesn't mean he can't breathe. very often when patients have a large loss of blood, doctors prefer the machine breathe ratherthen the patient. it puts less strain on the patient. and people are often sedated when they're intubated. they're out of t not able to hold a conversation. wolf. >> all right, elizabeth, there could be some dramatic developments over at the hospital where you are. we're going to get back to you. we'll see if a magistrate or a judge actually shows up to notify this suspect at bedside about potential charges, what's going on. stand by, elizabeth. certainly, building a case against the boston bombing suspects is going to be intense. we're going to show you the brand new jihadist video that we have just discovered. it could become part of the investigation. and as boston tries to recover, another community, another community is also dealing with its own tragedy. remembering the victims of the texas plant explosion as they're
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welcome back to this special edition of the newsroom from both atlanta and boston with my colleague wolf blitzer. so, wolf, the university of massachusetts at dartmouth is once again open. the campus where the teen bombing suspect was a student was evacuated friday as police tried to track him down. he, of course, was found in watertown, but school officials confirm that he had been back on campus after that attack. our chris lawrence is there. so chris, when were students officially allowed back on campus? >> just a few hours ago, and i can tell you we have new information to report this afternoon. just a couple minutes ago, we spoke with a student here on campus who said that he saw
dzhokhar tsarnaev just a day after the bombing, and that dzhokhar actually talked about the bombing. he said he saw dzhokhar at the gym. he came up to him and he brought up the bombing, telling dzhokhar, man, can you believe what happened? i thought that stuff only happened in rairaq or afghanist with those bombs. he said dzhokhar told him something to the effect of, yeah, man, tragedies can happen anywhere in the world. he said dzhokhar seemed tired but otherwise showed no indications of anything that had happened on monday. this just gives new context to what was happening with dzhokhar tsarnaev as investigators were combing through those videos looking for their suspect. the helicopters came and left campus. s.w.a.t. teams and investigator s culling evidence from the
dorm, but they couldn't answer students' biggest question, why did the teenager they knew as dzhokhar return to campus after the boston marathon bombings? >> are you surprised after what happened on monday that he could come back to the dorms, go work out at the gym, maybe go to a party? >> i'm really surprised because why would he come back? come back for what? it's not possible to come back to live a normal life. >> that's exactly what dzhokhar tsarnaev did. he came back to college like nothing happened. >> he was in the hallway, just said hi, and that's it, walked past. >> less than 48 hours after the bombing, terry was making small talk with him in the dorm they shared. did he seem upset, scared, nervous? >> just gave me a regular smile like usual. >> students have to swipe their ids to get into buildings here. umass dartmouth officials
confirm his i.d. was swiped at his dorm and his gym. >> i was relieved he didn't place the bomb in our building. >> this is a friend of dzhokhar's who couldn't believe how normal it seemed. >> like dr. jekyll and mr. hide, one minute you do something like that and the next you're okay. >> one student said he rarely talked about politics, but when he did t was about his home country. >> he talked about what is going on there and how the people in chechnya are. >> for the first time, just this afternoon, just a few minutes ago, we heard from a student who said dzhokhar tsarnaev did speak about the bombing to another student just a day after it happened. fred. >> but not boasting or bragging about it? >> no, no. he said that he actually brought it up because he saw him in the gym. and he said, i would see him in
the gym all the time. normally he would come up to me, talk to me. we knew each other. and he said maybe he didn't see me so i walked up to him, said hi. i brought up the bombing because it was all everybody on campus was talking about at that time. and he said, dzhokhar seemed normal, a little tired, but that he did comment and said, yeah, something to the effect of tragedies can happen anywhere in the world. it's too bad. >> all right, chris lawrence, thanks so much, at the university of massachusetts at dartmouth. so a profile of the suspects is beginning to emerge. i want to bring in wolf blitzer in boston. tom fuentes is in d.c., a former fbi assistant director, and cnn analyst, and jeff is also a former cia counterterrorism officer. jeff, let me begin with you and ask you about the jihadist video we have learned tamerlan tsarnaev had on his youtube channel. it has since been taken off his account, but it was there. cnn was able to retrieve it. how important is this piece to
this puzzle? >> well, fredricka, i think it certainly shows what somebody's indications are, what their inclinations are, what their believes are, what are the thing said they ascribe to? they're not going to post it on their website unless it's something they believe in. therefore, i think it's going to be an important piece of evidence as the case unfolds further on. >> and jeff, do you feel like as the investigation continues, as questions continue to be asked about tamerlan's visit most recently to russia when he was there between six and nine months depending on who you talk to, whether there will be information extrapolated that might indeed help substantiate that he might have become extremist or he may have kind of learned new training or gotten into dealings with any extremist groups? >> i tell you, fredricka, people have to understand, and in all fairness to our national security apparatus, the nsa,
fbi, and others, it's one thing to be able to monitor somebody here in the united states. their internet activity, et cetera, but when somebody leaves the country because they respect our capabilities, and they go to another country, and they go into an internet cafe and establish a fresh account and they maybe make contacts there or as al qaeda has started to move more and more to, they go old school, respecting the u.s. electronic capabilities, they now are more involved in personal meetings, all in an effort to thwart surveillance, so a very difficult surveillance challenge for our personnel, and you also have a heavy reliance on a liaison service where you don't know if you're getting everything you're getting from the liaison service in other countries. >> and wolf, i know you have questions as well. you're right there with jeff. >> thanks, fred. they found a lot of other explosives at these two brothers' apartment. other pressure cookers, other explosives. pipe bombs, all the ingredients
to build more bombs. i guess the suspicion is this is what law enforcement authorities have told me over the past few days. these two brothers if they would have gotten away with it, they were going to do more of this down the road. >> i think you're absolutely right, wolf. it was actually another side to that coin. either they were going to do more and that's what the other explosives were for, or perhaps when we are aware now there was a third pressure cooker bomb. was there in fact a third perpetrator who was supposed to join them on the day of the boston marathon? was that bomb built for that person to put in place at the same time? while we optimistically are hopeful we have accounted for everybody who departed this attack on the marathon, we can't yet rule it out. those other explosives could have other explanations, other perpetrators or other attacks. >> i'm going to bring tom fuentes into the conversation in a moment. where did they get the explosives, where did they pay for the explosives, questions
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welcome back. back with our coanchor fredricka whitfield joining us from the cnn center. tom fuentes is also here from d.c. a former assistant director of the fbi, now a cnn analyst. also joining us, cia counterterrorism officer jeff beatty. questions are asked about how the fbi handled the investigation of the older brother, what is happening internally at the agency right now. all of these questions serious questions. tom fuentes, let me bring you into this conversation right now. based on the fact they did discover a whole lot of other explosives, another pressure cooker, can we assume these two
brothers were planning on more bombings if in fact they would have gotten away from the two boston marathon bombings? >> yes, wolf, i think we can more or less assume that that probably was in the intent or that they were saving it if they had a last standoff, they would detonate at the time they were cornered. if they had an opportunity, let's say, to do it that way. also raises the question this is exactly the whole issue going back to the miranda, if he had the public safety concern of what were those explosive devices intended for? that's one of the reasons they wanted to talk to him or one of the things thaw wanted to talk to him about at the time before they realized how severely hurt he was. it absolutely proves the point there could have more more attacks planned or another person who was a part of it who maybe at the last minute didn't do it. another reason to think there was more planned is maybe that's why they didn't kill themselves at the time of the marathon attack.
they wanted to live to attack another day. >> jeff, somebody must have trained them. can you learn to build a bomb by yourself just by going to the internet and going out there, go to a home depot and buying this kind of stuff? >> you could try to learn, but what you would certainly want to do is rehearse. you don't want to go through the operational energy that it would take to mount an attack like at the marathon without having a fair degree of confidence that your device is going to work. so probably, they were trained by others. but it is possible to train yourself. but in all cases, you would probably do a rehearsal. you would make sure that your mechanism was going to fire, rather, and so we probably will find out that some of the noises heard in the boston area explosions, et cetera, in previous months and weeks, may in fact be related to rehearsals that these individuals undertook to make sure they were going to be successful on the day. >> fredricka has questions as well. go ahead. >> i'm wondering what kind of information or evidence would you hope would be collected from
these brothers' apartment, the place they lived, perhaps their gym lockers? perhaps even their twitter or facebook accounts? what kind of evidence are you hoping might help establish this case? >> first of all, the paraphernal yeah you could link to the marathon bombing. for example, do you find wires that match the wires in the devices. do you find wire colors that tool mark experts can examine and say these wire cutters cut one or more of the wires recovered from the bombing. any evidence that links them for sure to the marathon bombing devices and the additional explosives recovered since would be very significant. then if you find computers with internet information on them, maybe additional telephones, phone books, references. there could be other paraphernalia, documents that indect other people were involved or maybe a map with circles to say what future
targets might have been intended. so there's a wealth of information that could be obtained from that kind of a search. >> jeff, are you convinced these two brothers worked together and exclusively or especially as a result of the video that we're seeing that was on one of the brothers', the older brother's youtube account, that perhaps they may have been working with others? >> well, you know, you really are hitting on a great question, fredricka. and it's a question the united states from a policy perspective is going to have to look at in the future. you know, we allow for drone strikes to take out u.s. citizens overseas because they were directly involved with the al qaeda war against the united states. the underwear bomber, he was directed by al alwalky to bresz home his attack. so that was the justification for going after him. so the bottom line is we're going to have to determine what constitutes direction, what constitutes encouragement?
and this is a gray area. was there direct contact, was there a direct tasking? were they blessed in a video made, perhaps, that would be played after their death? >> go ahead, tom. >> yeah, i would like to say that, you know, looking at that video, the person seen in the video, the terrorist in the video, he gets killed, but he's killed by the russians. so right now, the other attacks that have been done from the other regions have been situations where there have been american soldiers or operations carried out in those countries. there have been drone attacks where citizens of those countries have been killed or military actions on the ground like s.e.a.l. teams coming in and other military resources, so that's something we have not had. we have not had american dwroro or american military boots on the grounds in the american caucuses region of russia going back to the early '90s that the chechens were at war with
russia, not with the united states. >> tom fuentes, jeff beatty, thank you very much. >> they're common -- >> go ahead. >> in all fairness to the chechen fighters in afghanistan and elsewhere, so there's a link there. >> all right. thanks so much. >> guys, there's a lot to dissect. there certainly is. we'll continue our extensive live coverage from here in boston. we've all watched as police moved in to capture the boston bombing suspects. but one guy was right in the middle of it all. you have to see this amazing video that he captured. you have to hear this reporter's story. i'll be speaking with him momentarily. much more of our special coverage from boston right after this. change makes people nervous.
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atlanta. we have new information we're watching right now. we want to share with you about the boston marathon bombing investigation. cnn can exclusively reveal that the alleged bomber tamerlan tsarnaev had video of a known jihadist on his personal youtube channel. the video is of a man named abu dujana. he was killed by russian forced last december. he died in the capital of dagestan, which is in russia, where tamerlan's father currently lives and where tamerlan spent at least some time, maybe six months, if not more, in 2012. cnn cannot confirm that tamerlan and abu dujana actually met in pakistan. the video had been deleted from tamerlan's youtube account but was tracked down by cnn. here's the latest information on tamerlan's brother, the surviving 19-year-old suspect, dzhokhar tsarnaev. he's hospitalized.
he's described as being in serious but stable condition. a federal official tells cnn he has injuries to his throat and is intubated and sedated. despite his condition, tsarnaev could be formally charged as early as today. a law enforcement source says a judge or magistrate would likely come to the hospital at the beth israel deaconess medical center, go to his bedside to present those charges. they're expected to include federal terrorism charges and possibly state murder charges at the same time. could be arraigned later. that's all a formal process. we also have new information coming in about tsarnaev's friday night capture. a law enforcement source tells cnn tsarnaev actually crawled out of the boat he was hiding in in the boston suburb of watertown. the source says he surrendered
after about 20 or 25 minutes of negotiations with authorities. cnn captured some of those negotiations on tape, and brian todd has that. >> reporter: as he was cornered, dzhokhar tsarnaev, police said, engaged them with gunfire. it went on for several minutes, and police lobbed in flash bang procushi prucushions to stun him. in the end, authorities showed their determination to capture the suspect alive. listen to officers negotiating with him as he's holed up inside a boat in a backyard in watertown. >> come out on your own terms. >> we snaked through alleys and back lots to get to within a couple hundred yards of the boat. during negotiate eggs, there was a word of assurance and an appeal to someone they knew was in pain. as we shot this exclusive video, police rushed us, saying we were
in the cross fire zone. >> clear out, okay? >> it was just minutes later that police captured tsarnaev. he had lost blood, was weakened. these pictures from the massachusetts state police show thermal imaging from a police helicopter of the suspect as he hid in a boat. the entire neighborhood had been in lockdown. law enforcement went door to door. after the standoff, we spoke to neighbors. this is one of the houses where police were combing through the neighborhood looking for the suspect. this is eddie's house. he took us through what it was like when s.w.a.t. teams came through. >> they came in, searched the living room area, the dining room. went through all of the bedrooms, bathrooms, kitchen ar area. >> they search cabinets and things like that. >> >> no, no cabinets or anything like that, but they went through the bedrooms, closet doors and made their way to the back door. >> he showed his own footage of the s.w.a.t. team combing his
house. during these moments, they didn't knowhere tsarnaev was or if he was carrying explosives on his body. >> knowing they had him surrounded and so close to our neighborhood, it made us think he might have been here at nighttime and they kind of flushed him out into that area. >> vivian stevens also lives very close to the house where tsarnaev was cornered. how do you feel now that it's over? >> it's surreal, i think i'm numb. i don't really feel -- i guess i can't believe all this has happened. i know it's happening, but i mean, i'm very happy that, you know, it's over and they got him. >> sentiment echoed by thousands of her neighbors in watertown. cheering police as they pulled out after the arrest. brian todd, cnn, watertown, massachusetts. >> a local boston reporter gets very close to the story. maybe even a little too close. caught in the cross fire as police move in to capture the boston bombing suspect.
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businesses here are going to be okay. if their predictions are off, if any more rain comes or is higher than they predict, it will be trouble for the businesses. we were up in neighboring peoria heights, illinois. several businesses under water there. with 2 more feet to go in that part of illinois, there's going to be a lot more homes lost. they hope to keep the damage, you know, to a minimum with all of the preparations they have gone through here. >> of those homes that have been hit by high water, have there been emergency situations? any rescues? >> they have had a good warning. up in chicago, thursday when they really got hit by this storm. all that water is making its way down here, 150 or so miles down here, maybe 200 miles down here. so there's a delay effect. that's worked to their advantage. it's given them time to build these walls here. and up in these neighborhoods where we saw the homes that have taken on water, they knew it was
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edition of the "cnn newsroom." i'm fredricka whitfield here in atlanta. we'll get back to boston with wolf blitzer in a moment. overseas in london, runners in another marathon race are remembering the bombings in boston. take a look at this video from the bbc. huge crowd despite the concerns about safety. the london marathon went on as planned. 35,000 strong. extraordinary. participants observed a moment of silence to pay tribute to those killed and injured in boston. and in the wheelchair division in london, an ethiopian racer won for a second time. the woman who won the boston wheelchair competition also raced in london. here is her story. >> it was her first boston marathon. tatyana mcfadden had won. she placed first in the women's wheelchair division. >> my family was there. and you know, they had tears in their eyes of joy, and we celebrated a little bit at the finish line. >> hours after she finished her
race, the bombers struck. >> we went into a lockdown. firefighters were running through our hotel to make sure there was nothing in our hotel.. going into all the bathrooms. we immediately moved to the lobby. >> that must have been terrifying. >> yeah. it was just chaos. >> reporter: tatiana is no stranger to tragedy. she was born in st. petersburg, russia with a hole in her spine. she was disabled and sent to live in an orphan animal. >> i just hung on to life and i had a lot of hope. >> reporter: hope arrived when her new adoptive mother working in russia for the u.s. health department took notice of the sickly little girl. >> i knew when my mom walk through that door that she was going to be my mom and life definitely changed for me. >> tatiana was brought to the united states. >> i had many surgeries to even sit like this.
the doctors thought i had minimal time to live and that i was just too sick. >> reporter: she played sports to help her recovery and tatiana thrived in the athletic world. now an elite wheelchair racer, she hopes her story will inspire others. many of the victims of the boston blasts lost limbs, the road to recovery likely to be a long and arduous process. what advice would you give them? >> it's not going to be easy, for sure. we can just live a normal life like everyone else can. even if we're in a wheelchair or if you're wearing prosthetics. >> reporter: erin mclaughlin, cnn, london. >> a reporter finds himself in the cross fire of a police takedown in boston and the cameras are rolling. you have to see this video. this guy's story is quite amazing. wolf blitzer will talk to him in boston next. everyone's retirement dream is different; how we get there is not. we're americans.
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take a listen. watch this, his riveting account of what happened. >> i'm behind the car. i'm hearing multiple gunshots. we're with police right now and we're -- we're trying to stay back right now but we are surrounded by police and we're seeing police swarming, guns drawn and we have heard multiple gunshots. i'm actually standing by the car right now. it is not a good position to be in. officers are putting on bulletproof vests. we have police running, all guns drawn around me right now. there are probably ten different cruisers and officers getting out of their cars, guns drawn. they're running you a around me right now. when we pulled up the cars stopped around me. meantime i heard probably 20 gunshots. i'm just staying down, using the car as shelter. i've never in my life been in a situation like this. when he we pulled up, multiple,
multiple gunshots. i'm so close to it i can smell the gun powder from where we are right now. i believe they have the suspect in custody. we have officers right now pointing their guns at somebody. they're backing up though. they're backing up. they're backing up. everybody is running here. police are backing up. they've got canine officers with their guns drawn but they are backing up and running back towards us. we're all taking cover right now behind the different news vehicles. even the police dogs are taking cover sglp adam, take cover. go, go, go. >> adam williams is joining us right now. pretty harrowing experience. when you were taking cover, when were you taking cover? >> i was actually behind the door of our news vehicle. there at the time when all of this was going on, there was our
news car and about five police officers. this is before the army of police came in. so i started behind our door. but then when i saw the officers with their guns backing up, i knew we were in a pretty serious situation so then i would run and get behind another car. i was saying, in our coverage that the bullets when we arrived, they weren't coming at us but going right by us. we were hearing explosion. there were gunshots going right by us and it seemed like from every direction. your first instinct is to take cover wherever you can. >> i take it you are not necessarily a war correspondent. you don't have a lot of experience covering gunfire like this. >> not at all. you've been in those zones. i have not. it felt like -- seeing the officers with the helmets and putting their bulletproof vests on and i guess that's when the journalistist instinct kicks in to stay safe but then to carry the story. >> how scared were you? >> at the time i think i was just in the mode of doing my job of giving information as
accurately and as aggressively as i could. it wasn't until after the fact and especially learning that within feet of us was indeed the bombing suspects. when i learned that, i think that's when it sunk in how vulnerable we were in that situation. >> yeah. that's a normal kind of thing. your adrenalin is pumping. you're in the middle of it. then later you say to yourself, wow, it's pretty scary, pretty flooit frightening. you were in a dangerous, dangerous situation. that report that we just saw, was that live on tv or were you filming it for air later? >> no, that was live while it was happening. i got to give credit to my photographer who was able to capture those pictures. he was taking partial cover behind a police car just enough to get the lens over to capture the video but we were live on the phone as it was happening and frankly, we didn't know what was going on. before we even got to the scene, the sounds of explosions were so intense we could hear them in our car.