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that does it for us. thanks for watching. outfront next. breaking news with the latest in cleveland, ohio. how a man was able to keep three women captive for more than a decade. what we're just learning about that suspect. we have exclusive new video of ariel castro shot just after he was interviewed by police today. and a verdict comes down in the jodi arias case. why she has been put on suicide
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protocol. we're live, let's go out front. good evening, everyone. i'm erin burnett. we begin with breaking news out front. following two breaking news stories. live tonight. in phoenix, hearing from jodi arias for the first time since she was found guilty of first degree murder late today. just minutes after the verdict was read she spoke to ksaz about what she hopes for when she's sentenced. >> the best outcome for me would be death not life in prison. new information is coming as a cleveland police source tells cnn that authorities have a slam dunk case against ariel castro.
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poppy harlow is out front. i know you're getting new information at this moment about the child that authorities say is the child of amanda berry. >> when the girls were interviewed, when the three girls were interviewed. they told investigators who amanda berry had the baby in the house of ariel castro, and the baby was delivered by one of the other captive girls, by michelle knight. amanda berry had the baby in the house. and it was delivered by michelle knight. we're also told by that source, when amanda went into labor. he grabbed michelle, ariel castro grabbed michelle and told michelle to deliver the baby. that baby we are told was born
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into a plastic tub of some sort. again, born into some plastic tub, and we're also told that when this baby was born, it apparently stopped breathing and everyone started to scream, started to panic, and ariel castro said, if that baby dies, i'm going to kill you. a complete scene of panic is what is being painted here, with one of the captive girls being told she had to deliver the baby of amanda. now, i want to read you a quote that is coming from this source, and this is what the police source says. what's most incredible here, is that this girl who knew nothing about childbirth, talking about michelle was able to deliver a baby that is now a healthy 6-year-old. so erin, think about the picture this paints inside the home where these three women are held captive. amanda berry is pregnant and then michelle has to deliver that baby in a scenario like
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this. >> it is impossible to understand, poppy. what else are you learning about the state of mind of these three women? and obviously from what you're describing in the scene right there. there was a relationship between the three? >> yes, there was a relationship between the three. we're told by sources, most of the time these girls were held apart in separate rooms in the house. there were times when they were allowed to interact. they were allowed to be together and a police source with firsthand knowledge of this investigation has told our pamela brown that they were -- he thinks at different stages in terms of their state of mind because we know that amanda berry ran out of the house. the source says she had reached her breaking point when she ran out of that house, when she had the opportunity that she somehow knew that castro was not in the home and made her escape at that
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point in time. the other two captive girls did not run out of the house at that point in time that they remained in the house. it's not clear why, but the source says they believe it's a very good indication of their state of mind. a fearful state of mind. also, this is very disturbing, but the source says that castro would test these girls. he would pretend to leave the home and then if they tried to escape, he would discipline these girls. it's not clear how he would discipline them, but he would discipline them. plays these mind games with them. and again they relied on one another when they were allowed to be together to get through this. >> thank you very much, reporting live from cleveland tonight with that breaking news. i want to bring in dr. bethany marshall. thank you for coming out front. you just heard poppy harlow repo reporting this breaking news
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what does that whole scenario say to you, and i'm curious about what it says to you that ariel castro said at that time when the baby stopped breathing to michelle night, i'm going to kill you if this baby doesn't survive? >> it tells me so many things. the reason girls didn't try to escape earlier, you have to understand these girls were brutally tortured, rained, controlled, intruded into, maltreated, starved, they were raised in a culture of fear over a decade abducted when they were just children themselves. that interfears with the development of a core sense of self and the belief that you have awe takutonomy and you can emancipate themselves. we don't know what other threats he delivered to them.
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he could have said i'm going to kill you, kill your family. more will come out as this investigation proceeds. most importantly. that baby is a key part to this story i believe, accord dog some reports, there were multiple spontaneous abortions or miscarriages. he wanted this little girl to live. >> that's what i find curious. >> curious to your point on that. >> i want to ask you about that, the little girl lives and she's now six years old, and amanda berry, this opportunity presents itself. and she reaches out for help, right? what could have had her hit her breaking point. she had been there for ten years, the child was already six what do you think happened? >> because a mother's love concurs all. castro may have allowed this little girl to live because this was going to be his next victim. i don't find it surprising at
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all, that amanda berry finally got the courage to escape when her little girl reached the age she was about to be aggressed against. >> we don't know if that's the case, but a huge question mark on that. thank you very much dr. marshall. the man accused of abducting and holding the three women captive. there could be a new charge filed, those charges alone could mean life in prison. so far, no charges have been filed against his two brothers. now, ariel castro has been questioned by police in the past. martin savage is out front now. you know before that time, and also, you've obtained video of him being questioned by an officer in 2008. what was that about? >> this is interesting. as you point out, it's five years ago, it's ariel castro and him interacting with law enforcement. it's basically an average
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traffic stop, only it's ariel castro and everything we know since. let's roll the video, what you're going to look at is the driver's view. he's driving down the street, and notices a motorcycle whiz past. jim simone is the officer here. he realizes the license plate is sideways, it's a problem for him. he follows the driver of that motorbike. what's interesting here, is how polite castro seems. this is the same time authorities claim he's holding the women hostage. listen. >> let me see your driver's license. >> excuse me? >> let me see your driver's license, please. >> what's wrong? >> your plate is improperly displayed. it had r has to be displayed left or right, not upside down.
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you don't have a helmet on. you don't have a license to operate this. you are subject to be arrested. >> he didn't want to be arrested. according to authorities, he knows about the women that are waiting back home. this is the real issue here, eventually, the police officer decided to give him a break, because he was a school bus driver. gave him two tickets and sent him on his way. the last the officers saw of castro that night, he was pushing his bike a mile back to this house where authorities say the women were being held prisoner. erin? >> martin, when you get a chance to talk about that officer, how does he feel today? i mean, there was nothing at that point, in that video you just saw, that would have indicated he could have ever gotten to the bottom of this, he has to be feeling frustrated now? >> he does. he says, you know what, he believes he did the right thing
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letting castro go. if i had arrested him, taken him into custody, that would have meant those three women and a newborn child would have been in that house alone, no water, no food and apparently no one knowing they were there. erin? >> that is -- you're right, not exactly what you would think, an important thing for him to think about. thank you very much. still to come, we have new information about ariel castro. the man there that you see, that is believed held those women captive for more than a decade. new dispatch audio from the cleveland police. a play by play of what those policemen found when they walked in to castro's house. >> we found them, we found them. >> and what's next for jodi arias? guess what, we hear from her herself tonight. i am an american success story.
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knight were being held captive. it's emotional. here's the moment the police entered the house. >> you have a bus coming? this might be for real, there might be others in the house. gina dejesus may be in this house also. we found them. we found them. >> we have a female who has a young child with her. >> we also have a michelle knight in the house. i don't know if you want to look that up in the system. 32 years old. >> you can hear the women crying there. in the background we also have new video tonight of ariel castro, the man now charged with rain and kidnapping in connection with this incident.
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he's wearing a sweatshirt type of thing. this is right after he was reinterviewed by police. he tries to go right there. they want him to go through the door. brian todd is in cleveland with the latest on the investigation and the charges filed today against ariel castro. >> authorities in cleveland lay out their case against ariel castro. >> i just signed criminal complaints charging aerial castro with four counts of kidnapping and three counts of rape. >> reporter: his two brothers are not being charged. the women were bound while they were in captivity, there were chains and ropes in the home. we're also getting new details on abuse and abduction allegations against ariel castro which date back at least eight years. a complaint filed in 2005 against ariel castro by the natural parent of his child claims castro broke her nose twice, broke her ribs, gave her
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lacerations, knocked out a tooth, gave her a blood clot on the brain. dislocated both of her shoulders and threatened to kill figueroa and their daughters three or four times that year. she was engaged to figueroa until her death last year. >> she said that any little mistake she make, even if she dropped a plate to the ground he would get so upset he would throw her down the stairs. throw her against the wall. kicked her in the head while she was on the floor. hit her on the head. >> hit her on the head? >> with bar bells. >> that domestic abuse case from 2005 was dismissed. because ariel didn't show up in court and on a crucial day, grimalda's lawyer was not there. cologne was convicted of
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molesting two of castro's children years ago. he claims the charges were orchestrated against him to deflect from castro's own alleged crimes. he says this about the death of castro's former common law wife. >> she died from the brain aneurysm, all that. >> that compliant alleges that ariel castro would abduct his daughters from their natural mothers. also, regarding cologne, he told the fbi in 2004 to look at ariel castro as a possible abductor of gina dejesus, but the fbi didn't do it. the special agent said they checked their records from that time, and they said there's no evidence that fernando cologne told them about ariel castro.
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>> it's so hard to know what everyone's saying, what's true, what isn't. so many difficulties in this case. i know ariel castro's daughter emily, that new gina dejesus also had a criminal record. she's serving 25 years for the attempted murder of her own baby daughter. what do you know about that case? >> we have court documents on that case as well. this happened in 2007 opinion it's a grizzly looking court document which talks about how she slit the throat of her 11-month-old daughter four times trying to kill her. her own mother, emily castro's mother actually rescued the child. wrestled the child away from her, hailed a passing car, got the child to a hospital, saved the child's life. that child did survive. ariel castro's daughter is surfing a 25-year sentence in indiana for that attempted murder. >> there have been a lot of questions of the credibility of a lot of people involved in the
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case, including the man who claimed credit for having saved these women. i want to play the 911 call he made to police. take a listen to that. >> police, ambulance or fire? >> yeah, i'm at 2207 seymour. i came from mcdonald's and i'm on my porch eating food. this broad is trying to break out the house next door to me. there's people on the street right now. what's wrong, what's the wrong. she's like, this man kidnapped me and my daughter and we've been in this -- she said her name was amanda berry or something -- >> sir, you have to calm down. >> seymour avenue. >> is she still in the street? where did she go? >> i'm looking at her, she right here, she calling you all, she's on the other phone. >> is she black, white or hispanic? >> she's white, but the baby look hispanic. >> what is she wearing?
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>> white tank top, light blue sweat pants, like a wife beater. >> do you know the address next door that she said she was in. >> yeah, 2207. i'm looking at that. >> i thought that was your address. >> sir, we can't talk at the same time. do you want to leave your name and number? >> charles ramsey. >> the people who she said did this, are they still in the house? >> i don't have a clue? >> can you ask her if she needs an ambulance zm. >> you need an ambulance or what? >> she need everything. she's in a panic, she's been kidnapped. so put yourself in her shoes. >> we'll send the police out. >> that is one of the most amazing things i've ever heard. what more do you know about charles? >> well, erin, what we've been told by neighbors, we talked to one of the neighbors across the street, this was the neighbor who amanda berry ran to to call
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911, that neighbor says that it wasn't charles ramsey that kicked part of the door down to free amanda berry, it was angel cordero. other neighbors have said it was angel cordero who kicked the door. we have to say that the police have publicly thanked charles ramsey for what he did that night. so it's a little less clear at the moment who was the real hero, and maybe we'll get clarity on that in the coming days. >> a lot of people have connected with charles ramsey. thanks to brian. and out front tonight, casey jordan. >> we have been hears information about the baby, how it was born in some sort of plastic tub. he threatened the oldest woman he would kill her if she didn't make sure amanda berry's baby survived. every detail is more and more strange. >> this is out of the horse's mouth.
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this is from police reports in the first 24 hours. even though they've been traumatized, they've been bottling this up for years. right now, their memories are going to be the most clear they'll ever be. sometimes the adrenaline will bring on more clarification. if the women are saying this, it's probably credible and most likely true. and the detail of that. having a baby in a kiddie pool to minimize the mess it would make. this is just the sort of thing nobody would make up. and it's disturbing, because it shows the mentality of the captor and the suffering of the captives. >> can you explain more how someone could keep this secret? we talked about this neighborhood, that it was -- the houses are close together. people live life in the warm weather out on the street. ariel castro among them. he had a job until november. he was not often there. how does this happen and you keep it a secret? >> because he's out and about is
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how he keeps the secret. we've seen this with dozens of serial killers. jeffrey dahmer was drinking beer with his neighbors all the time too. he needs to act normally, so nobody ever suspects him. which is why he speaks in that video, when he's stopped on the motorcycle. he's so polite. nervous, but very polite and respectful to the officer, which is why the officer lets him go. the minute he starts acting odd, and the oddest thing is, while he was cordial with his neighbors, he never allowed them into his house. it's a mind your own business credo. you know your neighbors on a superficial level. if there's trouble, most people do not want to get involved. and they expect the same courtesy if there's trouble in their house. mind your own business.
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his activities would very rarely come to the attention of police. >> casey, thank you very much. casey jordan. a criminologist and profiler for the fbi. a verdict announced in the jodi arias trial today. what the prosecution had to do to get that job done. what's next for arias, could she avoid the death penalty by lethal injection? and we're following other key stories tonight. 17 u.s. officers with the ability to launch nuclear weapons, suddenly removed from duty and benghazi. all business purchases. so you can capture your receipts, and manage them online with jot, the latest app from ink. so you can spend less time doing paperwork. and more time doing paperwork.
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it's 11:30 on the east coast, 8:30 on the west. we start the second half hour of our show with the stories we care about reporting from the front lines. christopher stevens briefly spoke with liz deputy six months ago, with his number two, we're under attack, and then the line went dead. during a house hearing, hicks reuncoted the night that ended in the death of stevens and three other americans. everyone knew it was a terrorist attack from the beginning. now, on monday, former fbi agent tim clemente said forces would have had time to deploy. that remains questionable. there are many questions that remain, including whether this could have been avoighted. the last people on earth who should be failing a performance review, today we're learning that 17 air force officers who have the authority to launch
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nuclear missiles have been stripped of their powers for poor performance. they're being sent back to training for up to three months on how to do their jobs. you may be shocked by this, you're not alone, but this has happened before. a 2008 pentagon report found -- a serious erosion of focus, expertise, mission readiness and discipline in the air force's nuclear weapons program. it's been 643 days since the united states lost its top credit rating. what are we doing to get it back? you may remember the first company that became known for excess? enron. a little monopoly here. a deal made with the justice department. ten of his 24 years maybe just lopped off. and they say that's going to help them somehow get 40 million more dollars in restitution for the victims. now to the other breaking news story we are following tonight, jodi arias found guilty
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of premeditated murder. >> the state of arizona versus jodi ann arias, we the jury duly empanelled and sworn upon our oath do find the defendant as to count one, first degree murder glgt. >> it took a jury of eight men and four women, just over 15 hours to convict arias of the 2008 murder of her former boyfriend. tonight we are hearing from her. right after the verdict she spoke. this is also pretty shocking. in an interview with a local affilia affiliate, the guilty verdict was unexpected and she's already preparing for a possible death sentence. >> i said years ago i would rather get death than life, that is still true today. i believe death is the ultimate freedom. so i'd rather just have my freedom as soon as i can get it. >> arias will begin a sentencing phase tomorrow. she could face death by lethal injection. ashleigh banfield is live
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outside the courthouse tonight. i was watching you get ready for this. jodi arias was found guilty of premeditated murder. the defendant took the stand for 18 days. why so much time and focus. >> a lot of material and a very serious potential outcome. a death penalty. you could say the prosecution was crossing every t dotting every i. preserving a record and making sure everything is done as carefully as possible to avoid an appeal. may be one of the reasons there was this much testimony and this much length of time. can i make a reference to that interview we aired from the fox station here in phoenix? this is one of the most unorthodoxed things that many people who covered trials have said, we've never seen this. we've never seen a defendant give an interview just moments after being found guilty in between a phase she has to be
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adjudicated whether she's going to face the death penalty or not. to hear her say i'm hoping for a quick death is rah remarkable that even as late as tonight we got our hands on this motion of discovery, that her attorneys are trying to get impact statements. her attorneys are trying to save her life and get information from what their victims are going to say in court. and to find out she herself is giving up and saying, i'm ready for the death penalty now, it's just one of the more remarkable aspects of this case. and a little more reporting for you, tonight after that interview, her mother -- her grandmother and two aunts were given access to her, they had a 33 minute visit with her here in maricopa county, and jeanne casar as wcasarez was there for
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an interview. her mother was able to mutter the words, she's good. before they left the jail. some of those family members are getting on flights and leaving. some of the victims family members and friends are leaving this jurisdiction tomorrow at 1:00. the local time here pacific time. the penalty phase is it willing to begin a two-pronged penalty phase. >> they have to decide everything unanimously. the jodi arias trial captivated people around the world and the nation for more than four months. there were a total of 38 witnesses, including arias herself. she spent 18 days on the stand in her own defense. we'll have more on that later, it appears to be a record globally. i want to bring in mark geragos and wendy murphy. mark, let me start with you, on the sound bite we just played of
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jodi arias saying she would prefer death to life. if the jury thinks she wants death they'll give her life. >> i'll tell you the truth, i think this is the first time you can say she's absolutely telling the truth. i've been in this situation with clients, there is no question that given the choice, whether going through this period, do you want to be life without or death? you want death. and the reasonable for that is, you get infinitely better treatment if you are sentenced to death. you get infinitely better resources if you're sentenced to death. this is precisely why death penalty machinery -- >> why is that? >> you get quicker appeals? >> that's why the apparatus is broken. if you are sentenced to death, you are sequestered, you get all kinds of resources, and you get appellate review that goes on ad
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infinitum. and remember who the sheriff is in this county. >> joe arpaio. >> yeah, famous or infamous in my standpoint a clown. and i think he probably orchestrated this because he thought this would bring attention to him, and i hate to bring any more attention to him, because he is a clown. but i think he's behind this and orchestrated it. >> wendy, were you shocked at all by this verdict? it seemed to me there was no other way this would come out, there have been other trials that have seemed that way to the public. whether it be o.j. simpson or casey anthony that did not end this way. was there any document in your mind that this ever could have gone another way? a lesser charge, for example? >> no. but i have 25 years of experience in the business. which means -- and i prosecuted homicide cases. i've seen seemingly nice people who look good on the outside, dastardly on the inside.
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i think the thing she had going for her is that she doesn't look like a monster and she's cute for me, that wasn't worth anything, the objective evidence was overwhelmingly, let me say this about her comment on the death penalty. if the jury is going to hear anything about that is going to take that as more manipulation. why she fancies herself a philosopher king, death is freedom. this woman zbt learn. she ruined her case when she testified and lied to the jury. now she's probably guaranteeing herself a death penalty result because she's continuing to be manipulative and jurors don't like that. they don't like her. they will spare her life if they find something redeeming about her, if they can identify with her in some way. she hasn't given them any reason to feel anything but hatred toward her. >> i'll tell you.
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the thing that -- where i will disagree is, they had the ability to decide what theory they were going to find for first degree today, and it could be premeditated it could be felony murder or it could be a combination. they were split 5-7. i think that that argues for -- if she doesn't do anything crazier than what the sheriff has let her do already, in terms of the interview. >> i don't agree with that, mark. >> i think -- >> let me just say something about that, i've heard you say that several times today. i didn't agree with felony murder. yes, she broke in, but then they had sex. yes, she broke in, but he seemed to be okay with that. i don't think it says anything about death penalty. >> why a split? it was a 7-5 split number one. and number two, the other thing that is significant. >> it wasn't a good case. >> felony murder was not a good
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theory. >> remember when they were asking questions, arizona's got this crazy rule that i'm in california, we do the same. where the jurors can ask questions. they were not asking about the defendant. they weren't asking about miss arias, they were saying jodi. i think when you have that familiarity in this case, it doesn't breed content. they may get life and actually -- >> listen, she -- she gave them that intimate access by talking about her vagina too much, mark. it's not that they liked her. >> we talked about whitney's blonde hair. thank you very much, whitney. >> i love the look on wendy's face. you got us. >> it's 11:40 thank you both of you. still to come. we're going to go inside the courtroom the moment the verdict was read and talk about what was
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we're following breaking news tonight. jodi arias found guilty of murder in the first degree. the sentencing phase starts tomorrow. casey wine an was in the
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courtroom when the verdict was read. we played the one moment when you see guilty and jodi arias' mouth drops open and you were able to see her teeth. what was it like? >> it was a markedly different reaction to the reaction jodi arias had. she was clearly trying to keep her emotions in check. people on travis alexander's side of the courtroom where i was sitting were openly sobbing and relieved. they were very happy this verdict was reached. they did not make any effort to hold back their emotions, lots of tears, lots of sighs of relief. you look at jurors as they exited the courtroom, they were stone faced, expressless. all of them walked right past me. i looked every one of them in the face, you could see that they were very serious still. that's because they have a lot of work ahead of them tomorrow
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as this aggravation phase begins. they're going to have to determine whether jodi arias killed alexander in an extremely cruel way. we're going to hear a medical examiner testify tomorrow about that, we may see some of those graphic photos again that have been displayed earlier of the dozens of stab wounds of the bullet hole through his head, and the most graphic of all, his throat slashed wide open. we could go through all of that again. >> i know this starts tomorrow afternoon, do you have any sense of how long the sentencing phase will go? >> i know that uninimity is required for any kind of death penalty verdict? >> that's right. we don't have a sense of how long it's going to take. they describe it as a mini-trial. our understanding is that the prosecution in addition to the medical examiner can call up members of travis alexander's family, friends, witnesses. there's going to be closing statements from both sides.
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if the jury decides that the prosecution has proved its case, this was an extremely cool murder it moves on to the penalty phase. the defense will get their chance to present mitigating factors why her life should be spared. she has two choices, 25 years to life which means the possibility of parole after 25 years or life without the possibility of parole. >> casey wian, thank you very much. the jodi arias case is looking at three scenarios. lethal injection, parole or without parole. out front tonight, jane wi weintraub and paul callan. a moment ago i played a short clip of what jodi arias said
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today. she gave an interview saying, i want the death penalty. i don't want life. here she is. >> long givity runs in my family. i'm pretty healthy, i don't smoke, and i would probably live a long time. so that's not something i'm looking forward to. i said years ago i would rather get death than life, that still is true today. i believe death is the ultimate freedom. so 50id rather just have my freedom as soon as i can get it. >> so you're saying you prefer the death penalty to being in prison for life? >> yes. >> do you believe letter? >> it's just astounding that she's out giving television interviews the day she's convicted of this horrific crime. it's so manipulative, because people who oppose the death penalty, the argument they always make is, you know what's
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worse, making them go to prison for the rest of their life without parole. she gives this statement and says, the worst thing for me would be if you don't give me the death penalty, you sentence me to jail for life. she's manipulating the jury pool or attempting to. >> right. now, what do you think. you've tried these kinds of cases before, do you think she'll get the death penalty or not? you only need one person to not go along with the death penalty for her not to get the death penalty? >> that's true and as it should be. i don't think she'll get the death penalty. they wrestled with a verdict themselves it was not quick, it was not a slam dunk. they didn't even agree on the kind of murder it was they didn't agree it was felony or premeditated. i don't see that 12 people are going to agree so fast. every murder, every homicide is
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a tragedy for both families, the defendant and the victim's family, this is not an especially heinous atrocious crime in my mind because he was dead almost immediately. and i late to say that in a callous way. i mean it in a medical or scientific way. that's what's important, he wasn't getting superficial stab wounds and, of course, it will be the defense position that the bullet was the first gunshot before the stabbing. and that that killed him immediately. >> i don't know. you know -- >> so that he didn't suffer. >> i heard of problematic defenses, this one is at the top of the list. you know something, when he was stabbed he was already dead. the 29 stab wounds maybe he didn't feel them. if you have a death penalty, and people have a conscientious objection to it, i understand that. if you're going to have a death penalty. you have a case where someone stabs somebody 29 times, almost decapitates him, shoots him through the head and then he's armed with a bar of soap and
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welcome back to our live breaking news coverage of the jodi arias verdict. jodi arias found guilty of murdering her ex-boyfriend in the first degree. bringing to an end the trial that captured an end to so many americans. jodi arias spent an unprecedented 18 days on the stand. she answered more than 200 questions from the jury alone. i want to put that in a little bit of perspective. during the nuremburg trials, one of the defendants spent just seven days on the stand. what caused people to travel huge dances, just to be there for the verdict today? maybe this? >> he walks away without a word, it feels like i was a prostitute. >> you were the one that had -- >> travis wanted to have a
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threesome. >> having sex with travis. >> you're like whoa! you're like [ bleep ] all over it was so hot. >> this stopping the trial a long time ago. the arias trial had every hallmark of a classic tabloid story or soap opera. it's pretty sad. that brings us to tonight's flub, 1.7 million. that's how many dollars arizona taxpayers have paid for jodi arias' lawyers. she got two court appointed lawyers. if you're one of the people who enjoyed the salaciousness of the last four months. enjoy the taxpayers of arizona.
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>> this is ""piers morgan live"." welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. it is 10:00 p.m. on the east coast and two stories are dominating the stories. ariel castro, charged with kidnapping and raping amanda berry, gina dejesus and michelle knight. his brothers, onil and pedro, no charges against them. listen to this dramatic recording at the moment the police found these women. >> might be for real. we found them. we found them.