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done. hey. we have a problem with chocolate, i tell you that. >> get him in the coffee business. and he is literally standing behind me, 30 feet away and just slowly panned his gun over to me and picks it up and shoots at me. >> a house fire, a hail of bullets and a trail of blood through the streets. friday's shooting rampage in santa monica leaves five dead and five injured and a mystery surrounding the gunman. >> you can't have 100% security and also have 100% privacy. your phones and e-mails and even your credit card records may be in the hands of the
government. what the white house is saying about the secret government programs. >> this is a great story. a 10-year-old desperate in need of a transplant had a reason to cheer when a judge stepped in with a ruling that could save her life. and the next week's meetings that could save thousands more. it's saturday, june 8th. thank you for being with us. i am pamela brown. >> i am victor blackwell. thank you for starting your day with us. we are starting this morning in california where we are still waiting to learn the name of the man that went on a shooting rampage yesterday in the ocean front city of santa monica. authorities say the suspect killed four people and wounded
five others before police killed him. earlier reports said six victims were shot to death. >> police say the shooting spree started near a home near the college and spilled on to campus where obama was holding a fund-raiser. the shooter was between 25 and 35 years old and wore a bullet-proof vest and fired an assault-type rifle. miguel, what do we know? >> reporter: they removed the bodies from the college behind me and the other areas where people died and they are continuing to collect evidence to figure out how this person carried this thing off. >> a deadly rampage rolling through the streets of santa monic monica. a man leaves this house inside, two victims believes to be the
shooter's father and son. >> he was coming out of the gate of the house across the street and i noticed the house was on fire and thought he had been firing into the house. >> reporter: the gunman jumped into the car forcing the driver with him, and minutes later he fired on a city bus. no deaths thanks to a quick-thinking bus driver. >> he jumped out of the car with a big gun and started blasting rounds at the buildings and the bus. >> reporter: after that the gunman shot up a building and then forced the driver to kill him to santa monica college where the killing spree continued. >> i heard a couple gunshots and somebody came in and said somebody had a gun and to get out and i ran into the hallway, and when i got out there i saw a gentleman dressed in black.
>> reporter: from the house that was set on fire to the library at the college, packed with students studying for finals. >> it looked like he was standing there posing for the cover of a ammo magazine, and it was bizarre, calm, not running, just looking for targets casually. >> reporter: in 15 minutes after it was started, it was over. >> the officers came in and directly engaged the suspect and he was shot and killed on the scene. >> reporter: his body moved from the library and taken to the sidewalk where he was finally pronounced dead. >> the most insane thing about all of this is the horrible day here in santa monica. it started about a mile from where we are, and then literally, ten, 12, maybe 15 minutes later it ended in a deadly hail of gunfire here at
the library, and it may have been campus police with the college that delivered the fatal shot to him. victor, back to you. >> thank you so much. >> when the gunman opened fire, joe orcutt thought he was hearing backfire and then came face-to-face with the man holding the gun. he is with us now. what did you see yesterday? >> actually, i work at the university and am not a student. but the first thing, it was just a bunch of sound and i was wondering what was going on. didn't think that there was a car backfire, and then when there was a second shot, it very much sounded like a gunshot. and the first two shots were in
a staff faculty parking lot that was nearby, and apparently it was at either a staff or faculty person that was leaving the parking lot for the day. it was in a red suv, and he hit the driver and i heard the -- basically the impact of that car into a brick wall that was across the street. and going down to pearl street there to see if everybody was okay and what was going on, just realized that there obviously was some kind of a shooter or gunman or gunmen, i did not know what was going on at the time, but when i was at the end of this long corridor leading to pearl street where this car had
gone through the brick wall, i started thinking, well, where is this gunman at. when i turned around and looked back to where i had just come from, he was standing 30 feet away right in front of me. by the time the whole area had cleared out and so he is at one end of the corridor and i am at the other end and we just looked at each other for a second and he spun around fairly slowly and aimed his gun at me, and i dove to the left of me and hid behind a building. he shot, and i could hear this whiz go by bike a bee. and it all happened really, really fast. >> you heard the bullets go by your head and you say he was calm. tell us about his demeanor. >> i only saw him for a couple
seconds. when i turned around it was really the profile of him looking down through the liberal arts building that would have led him to the library ultimately, but he was standing very still, and then he turned his head and he saw me and then he just panned fairly slowly towards me and lifted up the gun and started aiming. he seemed very calm, and he was not running or screaming or doing anything erratic other than hanging around and looking to see what targets were out there. >> we are still waiting to get more information on the gunman including his name and the connection to the people in the house and on campus. we are happy you are okay, and unfortunately you had to experience this, but we thank you for speaking with us this morning. we have learned overnight nelson mandela has been rushed to the hospital in africa.
the former south african president is being treated for a lung infection and is said to be in serious condition. we will have the latest for how he is doing. back here at home, federal authorities have arrested a pregnant television actress. she is accused of mailing poison letters to president obama and michael bloomberg. ed is following this story for us. >> this is a bizarre tale with plot lines that twist and turn, and investigators say it's the wife that tried to frame her husband. investigators escorted her into a court building in texas. richardson has been charged with mailing a threatening communication to the president of the united states.
neighbors know the redhead at shannon richardson, but in hollywood she is known as an actress that appeared in minor roles on television shows like "the walking dead," and she put on quite an act for federal investigators and tried to frame her husband in the real life drama. according to court documents she met with authorities to say her husband had mailed three letters. she placed beans in the trunk of their car and sprinkled ricin around his tools. they found ricin research on the computer and suspicious materials in the house. investigators dissented on the couples' home last week in the far northeast corner of texas. from the beginning, investigators were suspicious of
her story and now believe it was shannon richardson and not her husband that mailed the letters that contained an ominous threat. you will have to kill me and my family before you get my arms. the right to bear arms is my right, and what is in this letter is nothing compared to what i have got for you. >> i got more danger from lightning than anything else, and i will go about my business and we will work on getting guns off the streets and out of the hands of criminals and people with mental problems. >> shannon richardson is now in custody for mailing the ricin letters and her husband filed for divorce on thursday. court documents cite discord or conflict of personalities as the reason for the breakup. investigators say shannon richardson admitted to mailing the letters, and she goes on to
say it was her husband that typed the letter and forced her to type them, and she is five months pregnant expected to give birth to their first child sometime in october. andrea, creeping up the east coast. flash flood watches reach up the east coast and the tomorrow is moving into the north atlantic and the national hurricane center reporting maximum sustained winds of 45 miles per hour. rain and storm surges could cause problems especially in coastal areas. if you are flying today, good luck. airports are warning about delays and cancelations as andrea moves up the coast all day long. anybody flying should check with their airline to make sure their flight is on time. >> alexandra steele is here to tell us the storm is scooting
off and getting out of the way. >> well, despite its fast pace, it has left behind record rain and flooding. it's moving quickly. maximum sustained winds, 45 miles per hour. predominantly those are off the coast where the heaviest rain is at this point. record rain in new york and laguardia, 3.3. kennedy, 4 inches. and on a whole, between 3 and 5 inches of rain. here is a look at the rain. boston still has some more, and new york, connecticut, southwestern connecticut, and fairfield county all getting out of it and that pushing to the north and east, and another batch, a lot of moisture in the atmosphere, heading toward washington, d.c. you can see where it is now, west virginia and southwest virginia, and areas that had a lot of rain yesterday with andrea, but we have another severe weather threat today. i will tell you where it is and where the potential for tornados exist once again.
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is your security more important than your privacy? that's the question, right? >> the white house is fiercely defending surveillance programs that are putting your phone records and e-mails and online pictures and videos in between everything right in the hands of the government. brian todd is in washington. brian? >> the president is under fire from his liberal supporters who say he has betrayed them on civil liberties. however you look at it the president is behaving far different from candidate barack obama. coming off seven plus years of warrantless wire tapping and sweeping surveillance and enhanced interrogation.
>> this administration seems like that's the way to enhancing security and it's not. >> he promised full transparency, which he said would be a departure. >> the only way you can hold us accountable is if you know what we are doing. >> this week it's revealed the obama administration allowed the nsa to collect phone records of millions of americans and monitor the online activities of people overseas and add that to the fact he expanded the drone strike program and is unable to close guantanamo and goes after leakers with unprecedented zeal, and calling him george w. obama, and you have one praising the surveillance program while a traditional backer of president obama writes the administration
lost all creditability on this issue. expectations for obama are in disarray. >> when he was a candidate, the left was expecting a libertarian, and the right is expecting a professor of constitutional law. >> should either side be surprised? as a senator in 2008 obama voted in favor of the legal guideline for the government's wire tapping program, but why would he have pivoted so far towards bush? obama explains it himself. >> i came in with a healthy skepticism about these programs and my team evaluated them and scrubbed them thoroughly and expanded some of the oversight, increased some of the safeguards, but my assessment and my team's assessment was that they help us prevent terrorists attacks. >> one civil libertarian says
this. >> if he felt out those promises he could be blamed for an attack or blamed for anything that occurred. so if you are always continuing the same program as your predecessor and expanding them and accepting these policies, you are less vulnerable to criticism. >> when we asked the white house to respond that he became george w. obama, and they said don't forget he ended the war in iraq and placed moreover sight on the same surveillance programs we are now talking about. >> thanks. this is something that resinates, and a lot of the national security topics don't but the guys talking about this in the barbershop and the people i meet at the supermarket are talking about this, that the government has some kind of information about their cell phones, up to this point, though, they didn't know what. >> we go with the debate protection versus privacy, and
after boston there was talk about why weren't the dots connected and there should be more done, and then you see here, now we are talking about well this is an overreach of our privacy and a violation. so where do you draw the line? >> the president makes a good point that i think a lot of people knew but never heard the point articulated. no such thing as 100% security and no such thing as 100% privacy. >> and a big difference between the candidate on the campaign trail and the president. once he took office you get a rereality check. >> we will continue to follow this. kidnapper castro slammed with 329 charges. coming up, we will break down the charges of the man accused of holding three women captive for a decade.
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cleveland kidnapping suspect castro has been indicted on 329 charges. >> he is accused of holding amanda berry and gina dejesus, and knight for years. one charge accuses of 52-year-old castro of aggravated murder for purposely causing the evened of one pregnancy. >> here is the breakdown of one indictment. 139 counts of rape, and 177 counts of kidnapping, and seven counts of gross sexual impossession and three counts of felonious assault, and one count of possession of criminal tools. let's start with the 329 counts.
is that what everybody expected? >> we knew they were going to go after him. i was at the press conference when they said, look, we are serious and we are looking into murder charges and a whole slew of charges and this guy needs to pay the price for what he allegedly did. but 329? that is astounding. most of us were shocked to hear that. let's keep in mind, this was just half the time that these women were in captivity. this is only have. there will likely be more charges to come. but i think the message this sends is that they are serious and they want to make sure this guy is behind bars for the rest of his life or potentially faces the death penalty. >> there were probably intense interviews of these women to come up with the counts of rape and kidnapping. >> i was shocked by how much detail was in the indictment and it had the dates throughout the
years, and i think to myself, wow, these women, you know, obviously this is something that scarred them for life, and also that they were able to remember the details being tied up with a vacuum cord. in the indictment it says one of the victims said that she was woken up by castro and sexually assaulted. it's amazing to read the detail that allegedly occurred over the past year. >> you had a conversation while you were in cleveland with a friend. >> i have been there three times and talks to the friends of the victims and families, and i spoke to one of the friends last night and he was at the home of one of the victims, and he said it was like a party after the indictment was released and they found out about the 329 charges and they were elated. i think more than anything it's a relief for these victims to know that he is not going to be able to come back and get them. they are safe and protected, and they -- >> potentially more charges to
come. >> right, this only covers half of the time they were in captivity. >> we will continue to follow that, of course. a mile-long rampage shatters the calm in that city. we will go live next. stay with us. we know it's your most important videoconference of the day hi! hi, buddy! that's why the free wifi and hot breakfast are something to smile about. now, get great getaway rates and feel the hamptonality
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watching this morning. first to philadelphia and the building collapse. city hall sources tell cnn the crane operator working to demolish the building had marijuana and pain medication in his blood. he can face manslaughter charges. during the demolition, a four-story wall fell on a salvation army thrift store. six people died and 13 people hurt. second story here in florida, a critical hearing in the george zimmerman trial. this is the last hearing before jury selection starts on monday. the judge has to decide whether the voice analysis will be allowed at trial. two experts said the voice screaming for help is likely trayvon's voice and not zimmerman's. he claims he shot martin in self defense. the attorneys are back in court in three hours.
an update to nelson mandela's condition. a spokesperson says he is now able to breathe on his own. he was rushed to a hospital overnight because of a reoccurring lung infection. we will take you live to south africa in just a few minutes. and number four, authorities arrested a tv actress accusing her of mailing poison letters to president obama and bloomberg. she said her husband forced her to do it and her husband now filed for divorce, and she is pregnant and faces ten years in prison if convicted. we are waiting to learn the name of the man that opened fire at the santa monica college yesterday. he killed four people and wounded five. he died in the shoot-out with those officers. authorities say the gunman was a white male between the ages of
25 and 30 years old. he was armed with pistols and an ar-15 rifle with extra clips and the shooting spree started at a home near santa monica college, and the gun man reportedly fired into a car and then carjacked another vehicle and headed on to campus. it ended outside the library where police shot the suspect. he died at that point and it all went down ten minutes from where president obama was holding a fund-raiser. cnn's miguel marquez is in california this morning. what are they saying about the investigation? >> reporter: they are not saying a lot at the moment and don't want to give away too much before they figure out who this guy and what his background is. law enforcement sources said they have in fact identified the shooter even though they are not making a public identification,
and they are starting to collect data about him and trying to figure out exactly what led him to this and what the motive could have been. a shocking, shocking day here across santa monica to have the house fire start at 11:52, and minutes later a carjacking, and then literally five or six different locations that this person went to within a mile of the school here, and finally getting to the school and having a shoot-out with the police. witnesses say it sounds as though he was looking for it, because he was engaging police verbally say witnesses. they told them to drop the gun and he didn't. it's not clear how many weapons he had on him. police being coy about that, and saying he had a rifle on him, the semiautomatic version, and he had at least one handgun but had a bag with him that had
ammunition on him and other weapons, and police are trying to figure out whether he owned all the weapons legally, and then there was a shoot-out with police and it sounds like it may have been campus police that delivered the fatal blow. at this point investigators being fairly quiet about what they know. they have at this point taken all the bodies out of here at santa monica college, including the shooters in other locations, and they are continuing to go through the college which will remain closed through much of the day today. they may allow people to get back in there whose bags and keys and cars and that sort of stuff are in the college, because there are hundreds if not thousands of them, and they may allow them to get back in to collect those things, and for the most part, the campus is closed and they continue to process the information hoping to figure out how it kicked off, and the people inside the house were related to the shooter. whatever kicked it off started there and ended here.
victor and pamela? >> we are hoping to get the answer, who, soon, and then the more important question, why. we will check back with you in 20 minutes or so. two very sick children are a step closer today to getting the new lungs they need to survive. >> we will have the latest on the on going battle with the nation's transplant policies. we'll be right back. ♪
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south africa's president is urging his country to pray for nelson mandela, he is 94 years old and a legend and icon. he was rushed to the hospital overnight when a persistent lung infection flared again. let's go out to robin. how is mr. mandela doing? >> reporter: we don't know. we don't get a lot of information from the government here. we are relying on one statement issued a few hours ago saying that at 1:58 a.m. south african time, his condition deteriorated significantly enough for him to be rushed to the hospital. the doctors are saying that he is in a serious but stable condition. >> we have some new pictures -- you have pictures from april. let's see some of those and tell
us about these photographs. >> reporter: as you know, mandela has not been seen in public since 2010. the recent photographs from just a few months ago show a very weak-looking nelson mandela. he is surrounded by the south african president and his doctors and children, and he looks confused and slightly bewildered. and sources close to mandela, he has not spoken a lot and he is retreating into himself and you can see a man that is very, very old. >> we have not seen him on camera in the videos for a birthday party a year ago and not speaking in this video. this is the third time in the last year or so and maybe the fourth he has been in the hospital and his health has been deteriorating over time. >> reporter: absolutely. this is why this is key and this is why people are so worried.
this is the fourth time he has been in the hospital in the last four months. he spent easter and christmas in the hospital and again focusing on his lungs, and the doctors are concerned about the infections that keep coming up in his lungs, and his health is deteriorating in the last few months, and his wife, we understand, is with him by his bedside now. >> thank you so much. the group that sets national rules for lung transplants will hold an emergency meeting monday to review and possibly change its policy on child organ recipients. a meeting granted two sick children priority transplants from adult donors. >> javier's family is hoping he has a better chance at
surviving. the 11-year-old has cystic fibrosis and needs a lung transplants and so too, does sarah. she suffered from the same disease, both are at the same hospital in philadelphia. each family praying a lung donor will come in time now thanks to a federal judge's decision. >> we sat down and explained the system a little bit in a way that she could understand. she tpeplt a lot of hope last night when i explained that to her. >> earlier this week the judge ordered the department of health and human services to suspend the policy in both cases which prevented all children under the age of 12 from receiving priority in the adult pools for transplants. since there are more lung donations from adults, they say
what should happen now is clear. >> the system needs to be changed and fair for everybody, for adults and children. i don't want sarah in front of anybody who is sicker. it should be the sickest person first. >> javier's family knows the pain of waiting all too well. in 2009, his brother who also had cystic fibrosis died whale waiting for a transplant. they initiated the lawsuit against hhs and secretary sebelius urging her to change the under 12 rule. she was questioned about it during a hearing. >> the worst of all worlds in my mind is to have some individual pick who chooses and who dies. you want to process where it's guided by medical science and experts. >> dhhs has declined to comment on the on going legal matter, and on monday the organization
that manages the list and works with hhs will hold an emergency meeting to review the lung allocation policy. the lawyer representing both families says the organization should do more than just review it. >> i would think the prudent thing to do is suspend the policy. >> and that's not entirely out of the question. in a copy of the letter written to secretary sebelius earlier this week, they said if the committee finds the available data suggests a change is warranted, the committee would be able to approve it. >> all right, thank you for that. i guess we will have to wait until monday to see what comes out of that meeting, whether there will be an injunction or not. >> at least we saw the video with the woohoo with the cheers and tears.
>> now we see not only sarah, but the other child as well that will be put on that list priority. >> we will have a conversation in a little more than an hour. we will talk with sarah's mom, janet, about the judge's ruling and her daughter's fight. president obama defending the phone and surveillance program arguing that keeping details on millions of phone calls keeps us safe. critics say the government has gone too far this time and it needs to stop. we will break down the debate after this. s ready?
never sleeps, so i don't know if you say good morning to new york, but we are going to do it anyway, good morning, new york, 57 degrees and showers expected. not expecting the weather to be too bad there, but new jersey, a major political announcement around 11:00 eastern today. cory booker is expected to announce that he will run for the u.s. senate. this is the seat left vacant by the death of long-time senator who died earlier this week. earlier this year, before lotten pwurg announced his retirement, booker said he was running in 2014. but there is a special election in october to fill that seat. freedom versus safety is the debate across the country. president obama now fighting critics for a controversial surveillance program. >> the national security agency has been keeping track of millions of phone calls in the united states and they have been doing it for seven years.
>> the government also has access to e-mails, text, and video chats of millions overseas. chief white house correspondent has more on the high-tech debate. >> reporter: president obama said he is pleased the u.s. is having a grown up discussion about the domestic surveillance, but the criticism won't keep him from using the programs. president obama unapologetic about revelations on high-tech government snooping. >> my assessment and my team's assessment was that they help us prevent terrorists attacks. >> reporter: he said the government is gathering phone numbers and duration of calls and they capture e-mails targets foreigners, and it opened him up to criticism and jokes that
president bush faced when it came to light. >> if anybody else needs anything at their tables, just speak slowly and clearly in your table number, somebody will be right over with a cocktail. >> we do not listen to domestic phone calls without court approval. >> obama now. >> if the intelligence community then actually wants to listen to a phone call, they have got to go back to a federal judge. >> no wonder the left leaning "huffington post" mocked him as george w. obama. in a 14-minute q & a, obama repeated 20 times his program is subject to oversight by congress and the courts. >> the programs are subject to congressional oversight and congressional reauthorization and congressional debate. that's also why we set up congressional oversight. we have congressional overnight and judicial oversight. >> reporter: but all that is discussed behind closed doors and never subject to public
debate until now. >> it's a chilling thought to rely on congress to protect our civil liberties. >> reporter: even though president obama said this during the 2008 campaign -- >> there should always be somebody watching the watchers. >> reporter: he voted to sign an update to the government watching last year. it's more than a little ironic this is coming to light just as the president prepares to meet him with the president of china, and press him on the country's cyber attack. >> the two largest military powers in the world that china and the united states arrives at a firm understanding of how we work together on these issues. >> reporter: already the two countries agreed to discuss rules of the road going forward.
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pizza to go on the copter to your door. >> people will snatch it out of the air. >> yeah, i could be one of those people. we have much more ahead on "cnn saturday morning," and it starts right now. >> good morning, everybody. i am pamela brown. >> i am victor blackwell. it's 7:00 a.m. on the east coast. glad to have you. we are starting in california where we are still waiting to learn the name of the man that went on the shooting rampage in the ocean front city of santa monica. the man killed five people and wounded five others before police killed him. the shooting spree started at a home near the college and spilled on to campus, just ten minu