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hotels slash prices, some airlines offer flights for next to nothing and if you're looking for a great way to save a lot on christmas shopping, there is another friday the 13th this year, lucky us, in december. i'll put my shopping off to get those deals. thanks for watching. thanks for watching. anderson starts now. -- captions by vitac -- erin thinks. we begin with breaking news. the death toll rising with waters in colorado. 80 people unaccounted for. thousands awaiting rescue in towns cut off. you'll hear from a family that escaped the flooding from streams. first, what it is like now on the rain-soaked ground. anna cabrera joins us from longmont. what's the latest? >> reporter: well, anderson, this is in boulder county, one of the hardest hit counties in colorado from the flooding, but you can see behind me the ground is dry. we seen sunshine this afternoon bringing a lot of relief to the
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residents who have now made their way out of some of those trapped areas. in fact, the national guard is extremely busy today assisting local and state authorities in getting into the areas completely cut off 24 hours ago, and we've spoken to those residents. many of them brought here to this church in longmont down from the town of lions where they were rescued from the national guard and talking about the relief they feel. now that they have food, they have fresh water, they have electricity, all things they didn't have. we also heard of the national guard getting up in the air, getting up above jamestown another area hit hard and rescuing over the ground by air. anderson? >> 80 people still unaccounted for. is the water still too high? >> reporter: yeah, despite the
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dry ground here, looks can be deceiving. still very dangerous flood waters over much of colorado right now. so we're told those 80 people unaccounted for, they are hopeful are okay and simply don't have phone service and haven't been able to make contact perhaps with the people looking for them. so they aren't calling them missing at this point. i think the wording is crucial here. they are calling them unaccounted for and optimistic they will be found and be okay. >> anna, thanks very much. joining me is katy farmer. i understand you're searching for your parents. what is going on. >> i know where they are. they are both at my dad's house on high ground and i'm told safe right now. we're waiting to see if they will be able to come down to boulder on -- i hear one now -- i'm sorry. they might be flown down today
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or tomorrow and my mom's house is gone. >> your mom's house is gone? >> yeah, she's at my dad's house on higher ground. they are divorced and her house is in the creek across the street from the man that was killed. >> i'm so sorry to hear that. how did you get that word? were you able to talk with your mom then? >> i've been over the last couple days monitoring online and until 2:00 p.m. yesterday i was able to talk to them on the phone and communicate that way. i got off the phone with my mom and someone told her the house was off the foundation sliding towards the creek and after i got off the phone, ten minutes later i heard from a friend. >> how is your mom holding up? >> i don't know. i haven't been able to talk to her.
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probably not the best. she's with people that love her and this town will rally behind everyone that lost their homes in this. >> but you're pretty sure she's coming in on a flight with your dad. >> we don't know -- yeah, we don't know if it will be tonight or tomorrow. we're waiting for word. we're here at the airport and no one has really been able to tell us whether they will continue tonight or start tomorrow. >> i'm so glad they are safe in getting out of there. katy, thank you so much and wish the best to your family. >> thank you. >> some stories emerging are extraordinary. a short time ago i spoke with three survivors, eric, his daughter martine and his wife lisa, saw the flood waters, escaped on foot hiking and climbing to safety. where were you when the water started to rise? >> we were at five miles up route 7 outside of lions in that
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canyon and we were at our house there and and at the point we realized the water was rising up, the bridge was already covered. that's where we were. >> how difficult was it for you to get out? >> oh, i don't know, something like epic might be a good descriptive word. we add dogs, adults and children and bush whacking and scrambling up no trails and ledges and we only saw one rattlesnake, one dead elk and long and grueling was our journey yesterday. >> martine, was it scary for you? >> no, it really wasn't scary --
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it was just okay, i want to get to a designation. the rivers were a little hairy, but no, i wouldn't call it scary. >> can you ask your mom what it was like for her? >> what was it like for you, mom? >> exhausting, and it was scary. it was -- we had some situations that we're glad we got through and survived it. >> and eric, i mean, for people who have not been through something like this, explain what it's like. i mean, how quickly the water starts to rise. >> oh, well, our neighbors who traveled with us on the way out, the doogans, jonathan came up at about 11:00 that night and said that they were worried, their house is lower than we were and worried so we of course, invited
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them to come up whenever they needed to, and at that point, i put on a head lamp and went down and looked and already the bridge was covered with water and jumping up and down, and the -- probably some of the scariest stuff of all mother nature doing her thing is the sounds going on as the river was tearing trees and boulders out and the boulders start rolling down the river and the whole ground shakes. >> how deep were the rivers that you were crossing? >> well, yesterday i call them rivers. they are definitely -- these are the things that usually don't have water in them at all but every depression that you came to, every gully or however you want to refer to it is indicated with water. so the deepest one that we had to make human chain across, we had no rope because our climbing equipment went with our other possessions. so we had to make human chain across. the deepest -- and i was standing was waste deep, lots of
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debris coming down and -- but the main thing is to get everybody across and avoid injury so everybody could keep moving. the young boys that were with us were getting pretty tired as the day was going and we did find a cave, but we opted to keep pushing, so we made it, so that was good. >> martine, you said you weren't scared. i'm scared listening to this. you must be very, very brave. >> thank you. >> i'm so glad you and your neighbors who you left with are okay and you sound like a great family to be neighbors with. eric and martine and lisa, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> thank you. amazing what they went through. still recovering from a natural disaster in the jersey shore, seaside park, seaside heights. today as the embering cool from the inferno that swept down the boardwalk people have taken two hard hits began taking stock.
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>> there is stores on fire. don't go in. >> don't go in there. >> reporter: the fire started here at khor brothers frozen custard. >> it was smoke, a little gray smoke and all of a sudden it turned to black smoke and we ran away and there was flames coming out of the building. >> reporter: despite firefighters arriving within minutes, the blaze was quickly out of control. by 4:00 p.m. it was a six-alarm fire. the flames fed by winds up to 25 miles an hour. as the blaze spread north it engulfed the fun town pier, one of the few struck stuike turour. more help arrived to help. a firefighter convention was held 90 miles away with firefighters. one bit of luck for a town whose boardwalk was consumed with flames. >> we're so grateful for what
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these gentlemen do every single day, and putting their lives on the line to save life and property and other communities not just their own. >> reporter: to save more property authorities ripped out part of the newly rebuilt fire walk. the line stopped the fires furrowous advance. after nine hours, firefighters got the blaze under control. no lives were lost although some police and firefighters are being treated for injuries. authorities still don't know what caused the fire and until they do, it's being treated as a crime scene. >> we'll preserve evidence. we'll let the ocean county prosecutors office lead the investigation with others we spoke about and when they have something to say, they will be ready to say it. >> in the end 30 businesses were destroyed. the community shaken but resilient. >> we live in the greatest country in the world because everybody gets up and gets together and stands together and
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we are stronger that way. we get to rebuild. trust me. we going to be stronger. >> and we've heard that from just about everybody in that community, that they will rebuild. you can follow me on twitter, ac 360 tonight. next breaking news out of the u.s., russian talks in geneva trying to hammer out a deal, and later, the lawyer for the woman accused of shoving her newlywed husband off a cliff is speaking out. new developments when 360 continues. otting, but i had already gone through menopause. these symptoms may be nothing... but they could be early warning signs of a gynecologic cancer, such as cervical, ovarian, or uterine cancer. feeling bloated for no reason. that's what i remember. seeing my doctor probably saved my life. warning signs are not the same for everyone. if you think something's wrong... see your doctor. ask about gynecologic cancer. and get the inside knowledge. ...amelia...
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welcome back. there is breaking news on syria. sources say u.n. secretary is expected monday to present the weaponings report to security counsel and word today days of
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high level talks over how to dismantle syria's warfare have gone into over time. secretary kerry and his russian counter part will spend another day at a negotiating table in geneva. so what are we hearing about these talks? -- there is some word about possible progress? >> well, anderson, you talk about over time until a few minutes ago they were meeting and it's past 2:00 in the morning here in geneva. kerry was taking a walk to get fresh air and that's a good sign as a u.s. official said meeting didn't have something to talk about. the u.s. and russia coming to an agreement on the scale, the scope of syria's chemical weapons stockpiles. that sounds modest but is important because u.s. officials say it's the first test of how
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the syrians and russians are about moving forward in that how forthcoming they are about giving all the details about how many chemical weapons they have and what quantities and where they are all hidden. >> and obviously, one of the things that's been discussed is whether or not the u.s. would continue to insist on a threat of force in a security counsel resolution. do we know details on that? >> well, we're hearing out of washington that the u.s. may be backing off or at least realizing that they won't be able to get a resolution through the security counsel because of russia's veto that would include a trigger for the use of force. that's important here because that's the main sticking point between them, this over hanging threat of force. kerry says the syrians wouldn't even be here talking about this, the russians if the u.s. hadn't threatened force. the russians saying we can't move forward until the u.s. takes it off the table. that's important. going into this, nobody thought you would get a security counsel
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resolution that had an absolute forced trigger and even if the resolution doesn't have that trigger, the u.s. can reserve the right to act to use military force if it says that it's necessary and that's the direction we're being pushed by u.s. officials now. >> are they talking again tomorrow? is next for kerry in all this? >> it goes into tomorrow, another day and then that's -- like i said, a good sign because they said they wouldn't be talking if they didn't have something to talk about and weren't making progress. from here kerry goes to jerusalem and meet with the israeli prime minister to talk u.s. peace and give an update and kerry will go to paris and meet with the french and build some support. he's clearly going around updating but also making sure that everybody is on board with what they hope will be at least the outlines of an agreement. >> jim, appreciate the update
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and late-night reporting. i want to bring in william coe. secretary, thanks for being with us. you dealt with him in the past and called him a skilled tough negotiator. these deaiscussions going to a third day tomorrow, can you give insight how this happens? is going on behind closed doors? how does it work? >> secretary kerry is not dealing with a strong hand frankly and the russians are preparing to explode that. they are suggesting we reserve the right to use military force against the syrian forces, and mr. lavroth will say a precondition has to go. we'll yield on that point if there is a hope for getting a un security counsel resolution. the french and british and u.s. insisted on having a trigger namely if they don't compile with the dismantling of their
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weapons that we can take military action. i think that's unlikely. i'm hopeful that something goodwill come out of this but frankly, unless you have an overall peace settlement, the notion you have a dismantling of chemical weapons during a civil war is unrealistic. it looks like this is a long struggle to gain control of them, identify them moving around et cetera. i don't know that the united states has a very strong hand at this point. i hope that secretary kerry can play it for what it is. >> you don't believe it's possible for syria to give up chemical weapons for international inspectors to be on the ground, secure sites and destroy these weapons in the midst of a civil war? >> i think it's very unlikely, highly unlikely it can be done. hope springs e tern -- >> because of the danger on the ground. >> you got rebels that will
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resist any kind of a settlement at this point. they are disheartened by the fact that the united states has backed away from using force. the president has threatened the use of force but it has to be a credible military threat. the fact is there is under wheming support from the congress in the country for the use of force. i think the russians are exploiting this. president putin has went from the prince of darkness to the piper of peace. that may last for awhile and he can enjoy that bump in popularity but i doubt very much the russians will ever agree to a situation where the united states can use force, you know, with the support of the u.n. against syria, simply because of non-compliance. i don't think that will happen. the russians will say drop the preconditions of threatening force against syria, drop your support for the rebels, and then we can talk about an overall peace settlement. maybe that will involve
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secretary general has indicated that assad may be guilty of crimes against humanity, perhaps part of the deal within giving assad and his family asylum in russia with mr. snowden. >> do you think the quite would give up support of the rebels? the rebels have been saying all along you haven't been arming us the way we would like. there was a report from cnn and "the washington post" the cia begun to supply weapons to various rebel groups. >> i think our support for the remembers is minimal to be sure. on one hand we had almost a call to war by secretary kerry and then we had a stand out. a call to war, a call to action and go to parade rest. another call to action and go to parade rest. i think the uncertain trumpet we've been blowing undermined the rebels in their effort and we have not really given them very much in the way to wage this war against a president
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assad who we said had to go, and we've done very little to make him go, and so i think our position has been quite weak, and the threat of using military force against assad with resistance coming, strong resistance from the congress makes it difficult for the president. he could launch an attack against certain assets of assad, but he would do so after having asked congress for authority and then not getting it. it would be difficult for him political politically. >> we'll continue to watch what happens tomorrow. appreciate your expertise. >> good to be with you. >> good to have you on the program. as he mentioned, syria may be moving weapons around. there is disagreement in the community about where some of that enormous arsenal is located. chris lawrence is following that from the pentagon. how big is this disagreement among officials and what does it mean for any action the u.s. might have to take against syria? >> it gets wide, anderson. on one end of the spectrum some
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look and say they know where most of the chemical weapons are. on the other hand, other analysts looked at it and said the united states may not be able to verify the location of up to half of syria's chemical weapons. so we're talking about a thousand tons. this is a lot of clhemical weapons. there was significant movement of these chemical materials in that time frame when the president ramped up the united states foreign air strike. in fact, the wall street journal said an elite unit of the syrian army moved some stockpiles to up to 50 sites, and it's important no matter how this shakes out, if this all works out with the u.n. and russia, how are you going to have accountability for the international community to sort of take control if you don't know where all of the stockpiles are, and if it comes down to a u.s. air strike, they have to be assured that they aren't going to hit an actual
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chemical stockpile and release deadly gas. >> if there is a wildly disagreement in the intelligence community, how normal is that on something as important as this? >> believe it or not, it actually fairly normal. it doesn't come to a surprise to officials who have been speaking to cnn. they point to bin laden operation where there was no uniformity whether he was at that compound. they say different agencies are looking at different pieces. the nsa is looking at the communications, the cia may look at the ground intelligence, military officials intelligence officials here may look at satellite imagery. so ult multiimately, it's james clapper's job to look at this and bring it together and ultimately it's his assessment that will be presented to president obama. >> interesting. chris laurence, appreciate the reporting. the woman accused of murdering her husband by pushing him off a cliff eight days after the wedding.
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we hear her side of the story from court and the song takes on a new meaning in the words of the songwriter is creepy. later, we could be on the track to see the most measles cases in the united states in 17 years. what is behind this up tick? we'll tell you when we continue. mine was earned in djibouti, africa. 2004.
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the woman accused of murdering her husband eight days after the murder was back in court today. an attorney told her side of the story, how and why she pushed her new husband off a cliff at glacier national park. we have video of the wedding. the song the bride recorded for
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the first chance. for the songwriter it's now a whole new erie layer to the story. >> reporter: it began with such promise, young love of cody johnson and jordan gram. they danceed to a song composed specifically for them with the bride's recorded vocals in the background. a song written by elizabeth shay. >> she was excited to surprise cody for a song for their first dance. >> reporter: she says she seemed like a normal bride. >> i used words like you helped me to climb higher for a better view. you're my safe place to fall. you never let me go and so now when i hear those words, it's a little creepy. >> reporter: creepy because eight days later, johnson fell to his death pushed, say prosecutors by the very woman who danced with him. jordan is there anything you want to say? saying nothing to us a defendant
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leaving court with her parents. ordered to remain on home confinement before the trail, the court called her here for a last-minute hearing as prosecutors fought to send her back to jail. gram's lawyer says she and johnson fought at home where they say cody pinned her down and added he wasn't abusive but controlling her movement. it was cody says gram's lawyer who wanted to go to glaciers national park that night. at this sheer cliff they say there was a grabbing incident all in one motion the grabbing and pushing. 25-year-old johnson fell face-first to his death. this was an accident says gram's lawyer. this is a gross case of over charging by prosecutors adding this is just not fair. you believe this was an accident? >> you know, i'll just stand on what we discussed in court today, as far as merits are concerned, yes. >> reporter: gram's release into home confinement and her
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apparent defense plans are a kick in the gut to johnson's friends. >> he didn't deserve whatever end she gave him. he never earned anything that jordan did to him, and i disagree with all of my heart at what the justice system is saying is fair. >> reporter: prosecutors paint a very different picture of this young bride, a woman who told multiple lies to investigators, to friends, to family. prosecutors say she created a fake e-mail account and wrote e-mails to herself to fabricate a story about her husband's death that they called post event mistakes. she confessed to pushing her husband in the back face-first off the cliff and her motive, prosecutors say she regretted getting married. self-defense or calculate crime, a still unwinding tale that began with a wedding and will end in a court of law. >> there is a lot more happening tonight. randi kaye has the 360 bulletin.
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a suspect is charged in the shooting death. cumberland county prosecutors will seek charges against jacob allen bennett. three verdicts were teenagers, the fourth a 22-year-old mother. crowds gather as a judge sentenced four men to death for the gang rape of a 23-year-old woman last december whose wounds were so severe she later died. the case made headlines around the world. united airlines says it will honor tickets mistakely sold online for between 5 and $10. human error is to blame for the deals, not a computer glitch. an update on the ikea monkey. a judge ruled the monkey must stay at an animal sanctuary and can't go until the woman that bought him and kept him at home until 2012. >> that's my favorite
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photograph. the monkey's name is darwin and we should use his name. >> very well-dressed. >> well, the coat for me is what set this story over the edge. originally, i thought the monkey had escaped naked and picked up the coat somewhere in ikea and i realized ikea doesn't sell a monkey sized coats. >> maybe in the children's section. i don't know. up next, really a stunning development. measles cases in the united states are on the rise. this year on track to be the worst in two decades. health officials said they know what is behind the spike and it's basically parents not vaccinating kids. hundreds of defenseless dogs rescued from a brutal dogfighting ring. we'll see how they are now being loving cared for. geoff: i'm the kind of guy who doesn't like being sold to.
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alarming report from the cdc, there were 159 cases of measles in the united states. now that may not seem like a large number but it is. 2013 is on track to be the worst year for measles in the last 17 years. this is what measles looks like, a rash spreads across the body. in 2011, 40% of kids under the age of five that contracted the disease had to be hospitalized and while rare, it can be deadly in kids. a dozen years the medical
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community believe this disease was irritated due to immunization. health officials say the majority of new cases are the result of parents refusing to vaccinate because they wrongly believe vaccinations can trigger autism. >> reporter: it started with a visitor to the eagle mountain international church near fort worth texas, a visitor that traveled overseas and hugged parishioners and handled babies in the daycare. unknowingly spreading a dangerous measles virus. terry pierceson is the pastor. >> we've had a few families that have been affected by this, and so we want to shut this thing down. >> reporter: more than a few, 16 cases of the measles originated to the church including seven adults and nine children. the young's is just four months old. health officials say 11 of the
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victims have never been vaccinated. not surprising considering the pastor's father spoken out against children getting immune newsed, often suggesting the link to autism. listen to this recent broadcast posted on the church's website. >> as parents, we need to be a whole lot more serious about this, and being aware of what is good and what isn't, and you don't take the word of the guy that's trying to give the shot about what's good and what isn't. you better go read the can or read the thing, find out what is going on there. >> reporter: medical officials have found no link between vaccines and autism. as one expert put it, measles has a way of finding people who aren't vaccinated, and it's not just texas. this past spring, 50 children in an orthodox jewish community in brooklyn got the measles. none of them had been vaccinated, either because they were too young or their parents
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refused ordeal laid the vaccine and in 2011, there were 21 cases of the measles reported in minneapolis. concerns about the vaccine being linked to autism drove vaccination rates down to 57%. other measles outbreaks have been reported in recent years in san diego, indiana, north carolina, and elsewhere among unvaccinated people. back at eagle mountain international church, the pastor released this statement online. it reads in part, some people think i am against immunizations. that's not true. >> if you read the old testament you find it's full of precautionary measures. >> reporter: as long as those precautionary measures are in line with the church's belief of faith healing. >> go in faith. don't do anything you don't do in faith. do it in faith. do it in faith. do it in faith. now if you're somebody and you
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know that you know that you know that you've got this covered in your household by faith and it crosses your heart of faith, then don't go do it. >> reporter: on it's website the church urges anyone with a medical condition to first seek the wisdom of god, then appropriate medical attention, including vaccinations from a professional they trust. randi kaye, cnn, new york. again, the medical community says there is no link between vaccines and autism. here to talked about it tonight and the dangers of not vac tating your kids. dr. sanjay gupta. this new cdc report that makes mention of texas of that church, says the worst case of measles in more than a decade. how much of that is because of parents refusing to vaccinate their kids. >> you can almost put a number on that. 80% of those people contracting measles are because they did not get vaccinations. so measles is probably one of
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the best examples of sort of cause and effect. if you vaccinate, you see the numbers go down dramatically, if you don't, the numbers go up. let me point out something else, anderson, in the year 2000 we almost got to the point where we said look, we eradicated measles, there was no person to person transmission and over the last several years, 50 to 60 cases a year. so far 159 cases, if this to jekt tory continues, this will be the worst in two decades, as far as measles cases go. >> for those who under estimate, you know, the -- how strong measles can be and how serious it is, explain it. >> well, it's very contagious. if there is a child for example whose not been vaccinated and they come in contact with someone who has measles, they are virtually 100% likely to get the measles. it's very contagious and the vaccine is very effective. if they don't have the vaccine and do come in contact, they
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will get the measles. out of the thousand kids or so, up to three out of a thousand die from this and also significant pneumonia, significant concerns about encephalit encephalitis, which is inflammation of the brain. it's a terrible disease, but also, you know, a very preventable one. >> and 80% of this is because or parents not vaccinating their kids. some of that is based on reli religious grounds, others point to scientific reasons, the sign of autism among that. they say this is about preventing autism and are scared vaccines can result in autism you say what? you say the science is not there? >> the science is not there, and look, you know, i say this as a reporter but also as a doctor and as a dad, and i have three kids, and i think it's really important for me to say i got them vaccinated on schedule. they got their full vaccinations on schedule.
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the -- i understand the concern and, you know, it's heart breaking to hear some of those stories but while we don't know why we've seen the increase in cases in autism, we can say it's not related to vaccines and what we can say for sure is that these vaccines can prevent some pretty terrible diseases, so i would like to know what the cause of autism is and increases in the numbers, but it's not vaccines, so get your kid vaccinated. >> sanjay, got advice, thank you. >> you got it, thanks. up next, if you like dogs, you have to watch this story, hundreds of dogs rescued from a brutal existence. the aspca is working to heal the physical and emotional wounds. we'll be right back. ♪ [ male announcer ] 1.21 gigawatts. today, that's easy. ge is revolutionizing power. supercharging turbines with advanced hardware and innovative software. using data predictively to help power entire cities. so the turbines of today... will power us all...
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rescued and now being cared for and loved by people treating the physical wounds and trying to heal the emotional wounds, as well. the goal is to get the damage undone and get them to homes. the cute factor in what you're about to see is very, i have high. gary tuchman reports. >> reporter: the sign says i'm fearful, please go slow and this is who it retains to, a tan dog with brown eyes who is shaking in the back of heritage. a pit bull mix who spend her whole life being brutalized. the same with this dog who has scars all over his face and this dog about to give birth yet was also expected to fight to the death, if necessary. there are 253 dogs here, all used in a criminal dogfighting enterprise. they are now evidence in the second largest dogfighting bust ever and are being cared for lovingly by the aspca in a
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warehouse in a secret location. >> for the security of the dogs and personnel and integrity of the case, we want to keep this under wraps. >> reporter: 12 men were arrested and hundreds of thousands of dollars in gambling money seized and 37 pit bu2 pit rescued. the bodies of dead dogs were also found. >> there we go. good by. >> reporter: amid the trama, they are getting the first checkups by vets dealing with serious physical injuries and mental scars. >> their lives have been brutal. their lives have been filled with misery and pain. the only thing they know from man kind is hay drid and the harsh touch. >> reporter: there are several pregnant dogs here that were fighting weeks ago and puppies. >> let me tell you the story about this particular little
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guy. this little guy right now is ten weeks old. the only weighs 5.5 pounds. when he was found he was attached to a log chain. i'll show you what a log chain is. this is the log chain. it weighs about 20 pounds. he was attached to this. he was out in 90-degree weather and had absolutely no water. >> reporter: this is a picture taken by authorities of the same puppy when the dogfighting operation was busted. the primary goal here is to give each of the dogs a chance to some day be adopted. >> we've given medication to get rid of fleas. we can put them on pain medication. we don't have all of our diagnostic results yet. some dogs in these circumstances have heart woman disease. >> reporter: but you feel can live a good life? >> i do. i think he can have a good quality of life with the proper
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care. >> reporter: you can see this dog has scars all over his face, woe. this is how we know he's recovering. they don't play fetch the ball in captivity but after a couple weeks here, he's ready to play. remember that fearful tan dog we showed you, an aspca therapist is working with her to slowly build her trust and alleviate her fear and convince her she's loved. >> this may be the second largest dogfighting bust in u.s. history but a drop in the bucket. this is going on all over the united states. >> reporter: these dogs are getting a second chance. but so many others are not. >> gary tuchman joins me now. pit bulls get such a bad wrap and such a sickening story. the site you mentioned is kept secret. why is that? >> police have a legitimate concern that bad guys in this dogfighting industry might try
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to steal these dogs if they knew where they were being kept, and that's why it's kept secret. >> is there any sense of what percentage of these dogs will be adopted? >> before i got to this warehouse, i assumed that because these dogs had such a vibrant life that very few could be adopted. shows how much i know. it's early right now but the officials tell us that they believe that the great majority of these dogs will be adopted by people living happy homes or will become worker dogs or perhaps live in animal sank worries or become therapy dogs. their feeling is there is a good shot most of the dogs we saw in that secret warehouse will live happy good lives after such terrible violent starts. >> puppies are so -- pit bull puppies -- you just want to squeeze them. in a nice way. coming up, "the ridiculist" is coming up next. huh...fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. mmmhmmm...everybody knows that.
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time now for "the ridiculist." this sunday the new miss america will be crowned. they are still doing that. that's not the most shocking but this year believed to be the first time ever one of the contestants will show her tats. miss kansas has tattoos. the serenity prayer, basically without speaking she already has
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knowledge on her side, well played, miss kansas and has another at the toe you couldn't see on her left shoulder, the u.s. army dental insignia. >> people layoff what i said i was a grease monkey and would hold the title of miss kansas 2013. >> i won't miss with miss kansas. she's an avid hunter and used to race motorcycles and speaks mandrin. >> i love chinese people and their culture. >> behind the tats and guns and bilingual, she says she's a normal girl. >> everybody thinks of miss america as this girl on a ped stole and i want her to come down from that. she's a normal girl. >> ready to take the stage with the bikinis and high heels and inner beauty and marksmen ship. >> if you want a contestant that
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can hit the bulls eye at miss america, then vote me into the top 15. >> boom. i'm calling it. miss kansas wins. there she is miss america. this thing is over. just give her the crown and be done with it. she seems great. i got to say, getting back to the tattoos, miss kansas may be the most adverse thing that happened. >> hello, i'm april ludgate. i'm 20 years old. i like people, places and things and this is my favorite place in the world. >> no, i didn't win but at least i didn't make any new friendships. >> so when you watch the miss america pageant this weekend, that's right, they show it on tv and yes, it is 2013 beauty
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pageants are probably here to say because a thing of beauty is to stay. "piers morgan live" starts now "piers morgan live" starts now v. a great weekend -- captions by vitac -- this is "piers morgan live." welcome to the viewers in the united states and around the world. tonight, who has the upper hand, pew tin or president obama? a man that never holds back, donald trump teams me what he thinks the president should do about syria, not to mention his thoughts on mr. putin and america's first tattooed beauty queen. as that crossed the red line? and guns for the blind. >> it's a difficult one, but the sure answer is because they can't see what they are shooting. and his message for america. >> dear