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pattern of misconduct. we're told he also had an explosive temper. >> he certainly did and had at least two run-ins with police for violence. yet he managed to land a job as a contractor with the experts, that's what the company is called, gaining clearance to several government sites. he made his way to building 197 and opened fire. those who knew aaron alexis often say he was a contradiction, sweet and smiling most of the time but also prone to angry outbursts. he was often friendly but even friends say he could be overly aggressive, especially when dealing with female diners where he moonlighted for tips. digging into his background, she has information on possible
psychological issues. he approached several va hospitals? >> that's what we're learning from law enforcement officials, carol and john. he visited and made contact with two veterans affairs hospitals recently. investigators are still looking at the circumstances surrounding this. we're learning he has had several run-ins with the law. the question remains, how was he able to pass two security clearances in the past year and what was his motive to carry out the deadly shooting? law enforcement officials say 34-year-old i.t. subcontractor aaron alexis entered navy yard building 197 legally, with a valid military-issued i.d. and an intent to kill. his motive, unknown. >> we are looking to learn everything we can about his recent movements, his contacts and his associates. >> reporter: a picture is emerging of a complicated man. at times, quiet and polite, who spoke several languages and worshipped at this buddhist temple. >> it's incredible that this is all happening, because he was a
very good-natured guy. like i said, it seemed like he wanted to get more out of life. >> reporter: other times, he could explosively angry. >> might be a little bit angry sometimes, you know. but i don't think -- i don't believe that. >> reporter: alexis was born in queens, new york, joined the navy as a reservist in 2011. according to pentagon officials he was discharged in january 2011 following a, quote, pattern of misconduct. while it's unclear what that misconduct was, he did have several run-ins with the law, arrested in seattle in 2004 for shooting out the tires of another man's vehicle, described in the police report as an anger-fueled blackout. his father said his son was suffering ptsd after helping post 9/11 rescue efforts at ground zero. in 2008, cited and briefly jailed for disturbing the peace and arrested in 2010 for discharging a gun in public in ft. worth, texas, where he lived
until recently, never charged in that case. alexis had been staying at this hotel not far from the navy yard since last week. alexis recently purchased one of the guns used in the shooting at a gun store in virginia. he passed two security clearances last september and this past july before starting work at the navy yard. his violent rampage has left his family devastated. >> it's very hurtful. and our hearts are going out more to the victims, people that got hurt because, you know, more lives lost. we don't need that right now. >> it is believed that the point that alexis acted alone. officials do not believe there's any link to terrorism. there are a lot of questions about the weapons. we know that three were recovered at the scene. we believe that alexis entered the building with a shotgun and somehow acquired either one or two weapons from the guards there. >> but yesterday we heard a lot
about an ar-15. what happened to that gun? did he have that, too, or are police taking that back? >> there are actually questions whether he was armd with an ar-15, whether there was one there or that belonged to another officer there who engaged the suspect. we have learned from a law enforcement source that he rented and returned an ar-15 before the shooting, we believe, at a gun range. as far as imhim being armed with an ar-15, that's still a question about whether, in fact, that happened. >> rented? very interesting. >> i didn't know you could do that, but apparently you can. >> so many questions about his past. there are many, many questions today about how this man had access to the building. we've been told that he drove on, using his military security clearance, that he did have at the time, as a contractor. there are questions whether that clearance, background checks might have been tight enough, might have been stringent enough. let's go now to cnn reporter
evan perez, who has information on this. evan? >> that's correct. one of the things that happens today, fbi and atf are going over everything that they can find about how this suspect was able to, a, acquire the firearm that he had and whether or not, you know, he was -- he should have been cleared to be able to enter this facility. as pamela has mentioned, he was able to buy a gun in recent days. clearly, whatever information the federal government had on him was not enough to stop that purchase. and apparently not enough to stop him from getting security clearance to be able to get into the washington navy yard. now the other part of the scene today is the fbi and the atf and other agencies are going over the scene. all the shell casings from all the shots fired yesterday, that is a big part of the job today. they're trying to figure out how many shots were fired by the suspect, how many shots were
fired by law enforcement. in these types of incidents, there's always friendly fire incidents. you have to account for these types of things. all the information is very preliminary and that is what they're trying to figure out today. >> talk to me, evan, about previous arrests of the we count three of them now, correct? two serving guns and then this third in 2008 near atlanta. >> so you have these previous arrests that now, according to law enforcement, is painting a picture of perhaps some mental issues, some violent tendencies in recent years. the incidents in seattle and in ft. worth, for instance, which involved guns were -- obviously, are very alarming. it's a big question right now as to why these incidents did not become part of his criminal history to be able to stop him from acquiring firearms. that's a very big part of the
picture that still needs to be filled in by the investigation. >> he was arrested after shooting out the tires in a car that was parked outside his grandmother's house, arrested for shooting through the ceiling in his apartment building. but those didn't apparently set off any red flags in the security background checks and he was given clearance to enter this building. cnn's evan perez, thank you so much. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> so many questions surrounding what you just said. huge spotlight into security inside the navy yard. already some in congress are demanding answers. michael turner has actually sent a letter to the acting inspector general of the department of defense, demanding more information about the results of a navy security audit. he writes -- the congressman writes, it is my understanding that the ig reports indicates the navy may have implemented an unproven system in order to cut costs. i also learned that potentially numerous felons may have been able to gain restricted access to several military installations across the country
due to insufficient background checks, increasing the risk to our military personnel and civilian employees. cnn law enforcement analyst and former assistant director of the fbi, tom fuentes, is on the phone to talk more about this. good morning, tom. >> good morning, carol. >> so, is it true what the congressman says? has the navy cut costs surrounding issues such as background checks and security? >> well, it's possible. i think a lot of agencies are cutting costs with sequestration and regular budget cuts that nobody seems in a hurry to resolve these issues. from what i've heard, law enforcement agencies as well as the military are cutting costs and trying to get as much done as they can with a lesser amount. nobody has talked about this in recent times. it doesn't appear that many people care about it. right now, the fbi has a hiring freeze. they're going to be laying off 3,000 people next year and have,
you know, extensive budget cuts. this is in the aftermath of the boston marathon bombings and constant array of attacks and people conducting violent acts such as this. i think it ought to ring alarm bells. congress needs to be looking at itself as well as anybody else. >> well, it just seems strange to me in light of what happened in ft. hood, right? after 9/11, this was like the most secure city in the world, let's say. barred access to many government buildings, including military installations. why cut cost there is? at the most important point? you want to keep your military personnel safe. >> well, you do. don't forget, you have, you know, military on the battlefield. you have the ships at sea. you have the troops deployed and possibly contemplating attacks in syria and other places. so, yeah, when you're looking at the giant scheme of things of where the military is spending
money, labor costs for almost any organization, military or not, are one of the first places that can save money compared to other fixed costs that they can't. >> before you go, tom, i want to ask you specifically about aaron alexis and how he managed to get into the navy reserves in the first place n 2004, in seattle, he supposedly shot out this man's car, had a blackout. his father claimed in the police report that he was suffering from post traumatic stress syndrome because he did some sort of rescue work after 9/11. but that's not clear. why would the navy accept a guy with that in his background in the first place? >> that's a great question. i think that, you know, that will have to be resolved in the days and weeks ahead, of just how liberal they are in accepting people and, you know, bringing them in to reserves or
continuing them with security clearances. that will have to be looked at closely. >> we'll probably talk a lot more about that today. cnn analyst tom fuentes, thank you as usual. background checks really in question right now. one, how did he become a navy reservist with this history? and after he left of the navy, how did he get security clearances a contractor, which ultimately gave him the pass to get into this facility behind us? >> honorably discharged from the navy, right? >> that's right. >> after a time after -- >> after a pattern of misconduct zp then became a navy contractor with clearance. how did he gain that special security clearance with his background? >> these are the questions we're asking about the perpetrator today, even as we're trying to keep the focus, as much as we can on the victims of these horrible crimes yesterday here at the washington navy yard. 12 lives cut short. we're beginning to learn some of the names of the victims that
have been released. rene marsh joins us. what can you tell us about some of the people that fell here? >> we do have some of the names, john. in speaking with people that we met yesterday we know that the victims go beyond not just the people who lost their lives, but also the people who survived. now they're waking up this morning and it's beginning to sink in. i spoke with two people who were here yesterday when this all happened. you can hear in their voices the emotional burden is heavy for them this morning. but back to those victims who it lose their lives. we have seven of the 12 victims names. we'll read those to you now. michael arnold, 59 years old. sylvia frasier, 53. kathy gaarde, 62. kenneth bernard proctor, 46. john roger johnson, 73. frank kohler, 50 years old and vishnu pandit, 6 years old.
those are the seven victims we know of right now. there are still five other victims. we don't have their names as of yet. of course, there's a process. you have to identify and reach out to the family members first. we're not sure how long that process will take. when it happens, we'll get the remaining name. >> these were civilians or contractors who worked at this site, not military personnel. >> right. >> we're waiting on more names of these people, people who went to work like many others, but never went home. >> we just received an update this morning from the hospital. we can tell you a little bit about the conditions of the three people who suffered gun shot wounds. we know that the male police officer, the d.c. police officer shot in the leg, he is said to be in fair condition. that's the latest update this morning. one female civilian shot in the shoulder, she is also listed in fair condition. and then the third victim also shot, she suffered a gun shot
wound to the head and hand. she is in good condition. that is good news on the second day. >> wonderful gnews. >> mike brooks, our analyst, the police officer was shot across both knees, he said he is in good spirits, up and talking and hopefully will fully recover. his surgeon said yesterday on piers morgan he would probably make a full recovery. there was some talk about him losing his legs. we hope for a full recovery. >> one good bit of news on this day that we know those survivors now, when they hear the names and realize they know some of these people, that's a tough one to deal with. >> emotionally, a lot of people dealing with that. rene marsh, thank you. we're learning more about the shooter in monday's rampage. friends say he often meditated at a buddhist temple but was frustrated with life. john will speak with one of his friends, next.
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i'm carol costello with john berman. we want to check on two other stories happening this morning. salvaging the costa concordia. a crew less than 24 hours after starting that task. much more work has to be done before the ship can be towed away for dismantling. it ran aground off the italian coast 20 month ags, killing 32 people. the remains of two of those victims were never found and are believed to be inside or near the ship. facing a grim reality as they return to their flooded neighborhoods. floodwaters have moved their homes, damaged or destroyed them. ho homeowners are slogging through
the thick mud and sewage trying to salvage what they can. the death toll now standing at eight. george howell is in longmont, colorado, with more for you. >> reporter: new images emerged overnight. choppers once again taking to the sky, evacuating at least 100 people. emergency response out in full force, searching homes, a desperate search for anyone still stranded in the mountains or unaccounted for following colorado's deadly flash floods. >> some areas in larimer county experienced a 100-year flood. others experienced a 1,000-year flood. something that would happen only every thousand years sfwlr this is what the region looked like from space just days before, compared to this image, taken after the massive flood that inundated northern and eastern colorado. returning to a devastated community, residents in longmont seeing their homes for the first time since thursday, no longer
habitable. >> it's ruined. the basement is gone. it stinks so bad in there, you can barely stand it. >> reporter: jeff larson's wife, nina, watched as their suv was wash add way by flooding water. >> our basement immediately started flooding at that time. i took my son and his wife, wyatt and cole, and we went to the third level with the belly boats. >> reporter: evacuated nine hours later, they consider themselves lucky. thick mud and war move through lyons, shifting entire homes from their foundation. this woman, unable to reach her home on the other side of the river, in utter disbelief that it was picked up and moved several feet. >> today is our first day up here since we've been evacuated. and i feel like it's worse than i thought it would be. we lost absolutely everything we own. >> reporter: so the best perspective, the best way to explain this, when you look here at this river, you see it's
still rushing. where i'm standing right now, just a few days ago i would have been standing in the river. it gives you a good indication that the floodwaters are receding. we're also seeing the number of unaccounted for go down. just a day ago, that was at 658 people, according to the office of emergency management here in colorado. that number now at 648 people. so slowly, but surely that number is going down. there are centers in various counties where people can go to check in with officials to let them know that they are okay so that they are no longer counted on that missing list. also, we're seeing people go back into these communities now to see what's left over, communities that were cut off. they're seeing their homes that have been damaged or flooded. keep in mind, there are still communities where people are cut off. there's still areas where the floodwaters are high. so, we know that the rescue operation continues to help people get back to safer ground, carol. >> almost afraid to ask you this question. what's the weather going to be
like today? >> reporter: well, you know, you see the sun coming up. that's great news. you know, it's another day where things can dry out here. we had a good sunny day yesterday. the hope is that we'll continue to see this pattern, you know, to help things get better here in this part of the state. >> i hope so. george howell reporting live from longmont, colorado, this morning. thanks. >> nice to see the sun there. >> yeah. just ahead from here, the washington navy yard, friends of the shooter here say that that man was fun loving, but frustrating. i will speak to a man who knew him, coming up next. when we made our commitment to the gulf, bp had two big goals:
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this morning, new details about the gunman who opened fire here in the washington navy yard. friends of 34-year-old aaron alexis, some say they didn't see it coming. others describe him as being frustrated with his employer and some people say he had a temper. the former navy reservist also had a history of gun violence,
including several run-ins with the law. and now authorities want to talk to friends and family who knew him best, to find out what they can. one person who did know him is kevin mcdaniel, a store owner and friend of aaron alexis. he joins us now from ft. worth. kevin, you spoke to alexis right before he moved to washington. how well did you know him? generally speaking, what kind of guy was he? >> well, i've known him for the last two or three years, because of being right next -- my store being right next to where he worked with his friend at the thai restaurant. you know, i would chastise him for smoking. he would say he was going to quit. i would catch him smoking and we would laugh about it. he would say i'm going to quit tomorrow and i would say tomorrow's never going to come if you keep putting it off. and, you know, just everyday conversation type things. sometimes he would bring food to
me from the restaurant. sometimes i would go over and meet up. we would talk about current events, just whatever. he was such a nice, jovial, kind, laughing -- it's unbelievable to think he would do something like this because of the way he acted. >> well, were there any warning signs to you? our pamela brown was reporting that there have been several contacts between this man and the va. could have been for mental health issues. did he show any signs to you that he was struggling with any issues? >> none whatsoever. none whatsoever at all. like i say, he was always smiling. you know, if he couldn't talk, at least he waved and said hi from a distance. i'm busy at my store and he was over here, doing what he needed to do. sometimes we would see him. sometimes he would come in and i would see him three, four times a week, sometimes a couple of times a week. sometimes i would talk to him a couple of times a day. it varied. sometimes he would disappear for three or four days, a week.
and he would be back and everything seemed fine. he was excited about his job that he was going to in d.c. >> and he seemed to you like he was coming here to work, not like he had some plan for something awful. but, kevin, had you heard anything about the arrest? we learned about three arrests in the past, including two that involved gun violence. is this something you were aware of? did you see him with or near guns? >> absolutely not. you know, i figured being that he was former military and i thought he was still in the reserves that he had some association with weapons, but i knew of none that he carried on his person or that he had any dealings with guns other than that. >> so completely inexplicable to you based on your two-year relationship with this man? >> correct. >> kevin mcdaniel, thank you so much for being with us. i'm sorry for what you and your community are going through. we really do appreciate the insight you provide.
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john berman. from the u.s. navy yard, we're talking a lot about what happened here yesterday, the tragic events. one of the questions being raised about yesterday's shooting rampage, did government cuts put security at risk? d.c.'s mayor vincent gray addressed that issue head on with "new day" anchor chris cuomo listen. >> will continue with this investigation. as i look at, for example, sequestration, which is about saving money in the federal government being spent, have we somehow skimped on what would be available for projects like this and then we put people at risk? obviously, you know, 12 people have paid the ultimate price. >> i'm joined now by d.c. councilman at large, vincent orange. thank you for being with me. you heard what the mayor said. security may have been a little lax because of cost cuts due to sequestration. you represent all the people in
this great city. have you heard that from them? >> i have not heard that from them. that may have been a factor, but it appears as though mr. alexis had the proper identification to enter the navy yard. and i think we may have to, at some point, re-examine the protocol that's in place at the navy yard. >> you've been in there a million times, right is this. >> i've been there for a number of oaks. >> how do you get in? >> come to a checkpoint, give them my name, check a list, give them your i.d. and you enter. this is one of the facilities where they don't have vehicle checks. they don't check the vehicles of the cars. basically if your name is on the list or you show your i.d., you're into the facility. >> it's a tricky thing. how much security you should provide. they come in every day, they're very familiar to the security garsd all around. i'm sure this guy was, too, the shooter, right? he wasn't in there every day but he was well known to them. what do you do to employees who
come to work every day? do you put them through a metal detector? do you check their bags? wouldn't some of them be upset about that? >> i think you have to err on the side of safety. and so i think that we need to increase the safety of procedures. in this particular case, examine bags. you never know what's going on. how can an individual like mr. alexis have a clearance? you examine his background, look at all the run-ins he has had with the law. how was he able to get in that facility? i want to applaud our first responders for getting there within a couple of minutes of a call. it seemed like they took mr. alexis out before 8:30 am. things calmed down and then they started doing their due diligence to see if there were other individuals involved in this tragedy that occurred. >> is there anything you can do as a city government official to improve security, to change things? to force new requirements? >> absolutely. i think everything is under review. i'm sure inside the d.c.
government itself that we're going to have to review our safety procedures how you enter city hall. we have people flash their badge and you walk in. we have to examine all of this. >> thank you, councilman orange, for being with me this morning. i really appreciate it. councilman vincent orange. stay with us on "newsroom." we're learning new information about the weapons used in yesterday's shooting. pamela brown will have all the details for you after this break. [ male announcer ] this one goes out to all the allergy muddlers.
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welcome back. we're getting new information about the weapons used in yesterday's shooting. >> pamela brown joins us again. you've been reporting on this all morning long. it's confusing what the gunman had and didn't have on him. bring us up-to-date. >> response teams are proing the scenes, looking through the shell casings, trying to figure out what weapons were used in the shooting and what kind of weapons they were. initially, there were reports that the gunman was armd with an ar-15. now there's question about whether he was armd with an ar-15 or whether there was one even at the scene of this shooting. it's believed that the suspect walked in with a shotgun and two pistols that were recovered. right now, authorities are trying to figure out whether the pistols belonged to armed guards at the building or whether the gunman somehow acquired the pistol afs he walked into the building. still some confusion there.
>> initial reports that there was an ar-15 found at the scene being used by the gunman, where did that come from? >> right now, as you can imagine, it was fluid. as we are learning more, we are learning from a source that the gunman rented and returned an ar-15 before the shooting happened. we believe this happened at a gun range. perhaps that could play a roll in this. >> they've been in there all night, overnight, looking at the shell casings. going through the videotape not just yesterday but the day before, is that something he possibly left there in the days before? we don't know. the day before is just as key as looking at the video of yesterday i imagine. >> investigators will try to piece this together. it could take days before we have a clear picture.
>> right. as we're piecing together what he had on him once he got in the building, there are so many questions about how he got in there at all. he did have an updated security clearance. he was a military subcontractor working on the i.t. systems in here, cleared to go into this facility before he went in yesterday and killed 12 people. should that have happened at all? should there have been more oversight? greg greinke is an attorney for the judge advocate general's office. thank you for joining us. >> my pleasure. >> we're hoping you can clear up this. we learn this had morning that this man was honorably discharged from the navy reserves. however, the navy is telling us at the same time there was a pattern of misconduct. some of those incidents that we suspect include these arrests, for instance, that involved guns. how can you be honorably
discharged with a pattern of misconduct? >> it's an administrative discharge and does not automatically result in a bad conduct discharge or other than honorable discharge. it is possible to be discharged -- most people are patterns of misconduct are discharged with other than honorable discharge or general discharge. we need to dig a little bit further into this to see if it was a general under honorables discharge or full honorable discharge. >> not impossible it was honorable? just unusual. certainly one of the thing that is needs to be cleared up as the days go on. another thing that needs a great deal of clarity is how do you get the security clearance with the pattern of misconduct we've been discussing? are you familiar at all with these security procedures and how easily or not easily this clearance might be granted? >> absolutely. one of the tough questions in this case is going to be how did mr. alexis -- how did he receive
a security clearance? if he was administratively discharged from the navy for patterns of misconduct -- it appear that is some of that misconduct involved allegations of a firearm, also appears he may have had some mental health issues he was undergoing treatment for. how did he get a security clearance? that bears close scrutiny. >> you've worked in the army judge advocate's office. this is a naval facility. nonetheless, you've gone through installations like this, no doubt shall countless times. how difficult would it be, in your experience, for a man like this to get past the front door with a weapon? >> unfortunately, it's not very tough for someone who has security credentials to go on and off the base. what really bears some scrutiny here, should there be random
checks of vehicles going on and off the base even if they have valid i.d.? after 9/11, security was a lot tougher on most posts and they were randomly checking vehicles even with security credentials. >> you mentioned 9/11. what about after ft. hood? after that happened in texas, should that have been a red flag that tightened security procedures all around military installations? >> it was clearly an indicator that we need to look at mental health screening of our members and if there are issues they bear closer scrutiny. it's a tough balancing act because of the number of people that go on and off these military bases. after 9/11, i was stationed in missouri and it would routinely take an hour to get on the base because of the tight security. so it's really a balancing act of how much security can we have
in order to be productive to get on and off the base. >> and what is the cost and were costs cut trying to save money? greg rinckey, thank you so much. obvious obviously, more questions we need answers to. carol? >> investigators are combing through building 197 right now, trying to piece together evidence as to what exactly went down yesterday. we'll talk to mike brooks, who has been with the metropolitan police department -- at least he was -- for 26 years. he has been talking to the investigators inside building 197 and will bring us up-to-date when we come back in the "newsroom." i had pain in my abdomen... it just wouldn't go away. i was spotting, but i had already gone through menopause. these symptoms may be nothing... but they could be early warning signs of a gynecologic cancer, such as cervical, ovarian, or uterine cancer. feeling bloated for no reason. that's what i remember.
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mike brooks has been communicating with them this morning and joins me now. sort of walk us through what exactly is going on at the navy yard right now. >> after they removed all the bodies yesterday, even before that, fbi's evidence response team -- i used to be a team leader with one of their rapid deployment teams. they're in there, working it, processing the scene. fbi shooting reconstruction team was brought up from the fbi lab
in quantico to assist the agents with the evidence response team. they're going to thereby. the assistant director said it could be a day or two. they're going to map out the whole scene and build this case. even though the shooter is dead, they still have to go ahead and find out exactly what happened, what his movements were as he >> reporter: of course law enforcement is trying to figure out a motive. the fbi sent out a message to the entire country, if you know anything about this guy, please tell us. we don't know why he did this. >> they want his movements before he came to washington. the he's been in new york, texas, georgia, where he had a disorderly conduct back in 2008. i encourage everybody to go to fbi.gov. take a look at his picture. if you think you've steen this guy at any time. even if you say, well, i'm not sure, call 1-800-call-fbi.
they want to hear from you even if you're not sure if you saw him. if you think you did, give them a call. >> i know you have a little more information because aaron alexis was 68 staying in a hotel with other subcontractors. police have contact some of themd, but they're still looking for one more. >> they're looking for anybody. that one particular person, but he was staying at the residence inn on e street southwest, about a five-minute drive from here. we know the fbi was there, they removed most stuff. they took some boxes out of there. one of the other things they'll look at is the surveillance video. was he there by himself? were there people he was maybe meeting over the last month or so while he was here, what his actions were yesterday morning. they want to know who he saw, what he did, what he ate. they want to know everything that led up to that sheooting yesterday. >> reporter: i know before you go, i know you talked to the police officer who was shot across the knees yesterday. how did he sound? >> one of my sources talked to him. he told me that he had just talked to him had, .
he was in good spirits. he took a high-powered round through both legs. we heard the doctor yesterday at the washington hospital say there were bones, vessels involved. it looks like he'll make a good recovery. he was one of the initial officers who went in with that active shooter team and convi confronted him. they were checking a room on the third floor. that's when he apparently popped up, fired three rounds at the officer, at least one of the rounds struck him in the legs. but he is doing well. his family is with him. had his friends are around him up at medstar unit. i know, having been a member of the metropolitan police department for 26 proud years, i'm sure he'll do well. he's surrounded by friends. that's t ae's important thing. >> reporter: that is important. thanks, mike brooks. i appreciate it. we'll be right back. help the gulf recover and learn from what happened so we could be a better, safer energy company. i can tell you - safety is at the heart of everything we do.
>> reporter: we'll get back to our coverage of the shoots here washington navy yard shortly. let's check in on other stories. when it comes to the u.s./russian plan to get the assad regime to give up its chemical weapons, the devil is in the details. at a press conference today, russian principal minister rejected any u.n. resolution
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sensitive military site? >> now the victims are being honored. in a few minutes you'll see a few pictures. chuck hagel and senior members of the military are taking part in the wreath laying ceremony, just blocks where the 12 were shot and killed on monday. let's listen. the wreath laying hasn't quite started yet, but i want a bit more of an explanation so let's bring in our pentagon correspondent barbara starr. barbara, tell us who's taking part and what we'll see. >> good morning to both of you. this is the navy memorial downtown. defense secretary chuck hagel, the chairman of the joint chief fz staff, general martin demp y dempsey, the chief of naval operations will all gather as secretary hagel lays a wreath.
washington will pause for a moment to remember the victims of this masses shooting. the military lain into place many of the procedures to honor and remember those who fell yesterday at the navy yard, just as they do for those who fall in battle. the families of the fallen are getting military assistance. they are getting counselors. you begin to see, i believe, the ceremony about to take place, carol. >> reporter: let's listen.
is someone who was here yesterday at the washington navy yard. that's the chief of naval operations. he lives here. >> that's right, john and carol. this is admirable jonathan greenard, the chief of naval operations. he and his wife were evacuated from the navy yard as this incident unfolded, so many people trying to make the rush to safety. as you see in a few minutes, defense secretary chuck hagel laying this wreath, this moment of remembrance, i think it's worth remembering, again, hagel himself a combat veteran of vietnam, a man who has seen so much. as he is sort of settled in at the pentagon over the months, this is a guy who out in the hallway will suddenly stop some fairly low-ranking military member or civilian and just stop and talk to them and ask how they're doing and what's on their minds. we've seen that happen here in the hallways of the poent p gop.
this is felt very deeply, very deeply across the military family. again, they're sending chapla chaplains, assistance officers. the wounded are given access to walter reed such as the wounded in the war zone. for the military, just like the tragic shooting at ft. hood, this is best described as family business. this is the military family in the united states, whether they're civilians working for the department of defense or active duty carrying a weapon on the front line. this is the military family in this country and very much heartfelt that they look after each other. the chief of naval operations, the civilian head secretary of the navy moving very quickly yesterday afternoon to put all those procedures into place so that, as families were notified that their loved ones had been killed, there would be a casualty assistance officer, a chaplain available to them, and grief counseling, trauma
counseling for anybody at the navy yard that felt they needed it. this is -- i can only keep say, for the military, it's family business, just as it has been at so many scenes across this country, aurora, colorado, mokc movie theater, sandy hook, people really come together. this today what you're seeing this morning is the military community, the navy community, coming together for a few minutes in washington to pause and remember. there will be investigations. there will be reviews. there will be law enforcement. but just from time to time, as you see as they approach, a moment to pause and reflect.
>> as we await this ceremony to get under way, we expect "taps" will soon be played. a very somber moment. as barbara starr said, the military is a family, has to take care of its own. after it gets through this grieving process, which will be a very short time, it has to undergo this rigorous investigation and answer so many important questions. >> very serious questions. the secretary of defense has made clear that right now what he wants to focus on is the family aspect. he wants to mourn with the entire community that has lost so much in the last 24 hours. but he has also acknowledge that he needs to start away starting to ask these questions about the security procedures at military installations like this one. because after ft. hood, after what happened here, it's clear
these need to be addressed. >> i suspect many meetings have already taken place overnight, of course investigators in building 197 are putting together exactly what happened. and the big question still remains this morning, what was the shooter's motive? why did he do this? we've pretty much ruled out terrorism, but we don't exactly know because we don't know what the motive was in this case. >> and barbara starr, who's still with us, from the pentagon this morning, it is interesting that the department of defense is treating this really as a military event. explain the significance of that. >> well, it's that notion, as we're talking about, about a military family. for those who fall on the front lines in the war zones there's a lot of help that is given to the families. here we know so far all of those who lost their lives yesterday were civilians working for the department of defense. but that doesn't matter. just as it didn't matter on 9/11 when so many civilians were
ski killed here on the plane that crashed into the pentagon. in these mass casualty attacks, in these mass incidents where there is loss of life, the military comes together. everyone is treated exactly the same. so what we know is, overnight casualty assistance officers, chaplains, fanning out across washington, going to the homes of these families to render what assistance they can. and as you see secretary hagel begin to approach here with the chief of naval operations, the secretary of the navy, the chairman of the joint chiefs, let us just pause and watch. [ playing "taps" [ .
shooting. but still so many questions. >> so many questions. like barbara starr said, the military acting like a family today, coming together to mourn those that were lost, even though we know the names of the people lost here, civilians, contractors, not necessarily military personnel. >> still members of the family. as i said, so many questions remain, like how did this man get through security armed? we turn to congress and mike turner for some answers. he's been investigating this. in fact, he sent a letter recently questioning the security inside the buildings at the navy yard. congressman, are you there? >> yes, i am. >> congressman -- >> first of all, our prayers go out to the victims and to the victims' families. but shortly after this event, this tragedy, occurred, an inspector general report was delivered to congress that cited failure across the navy security system for access to these type of facilities.
it said in the inspection report that the people who worked there were at risk and in fact cited 52 felons who had been able to get through the system inappropriately. it said that the system that was currently utilized by the navy did not meet federal or d.o.d. standards and it actually made a recommendation that the system that the navy was deploying immediately cease to be used. this is obviously of great concern. we sent a letter to the inspector general asking for the report to be made public to congress so that we can begin the process of reviewing, did this contribute and did this have an impact on what occurred yesterday? >> and congressman, when you say "the system," can you sort of explain to our viewers what you mean by that. >> right. it included the background checks of the -- how they looked at an individual who was seeking access to the facility, who was either a contractor or trying to -- who was either employed or
a contractor at the facility. that system did not utilize the background checks system that the federal -- or department of defense required. i'm sorry. i'm getting a tremendous amount of background noise. >> i apologize. hopefully we can fix that. we'll do the best we can and muddle through and hopefully you'll stay with me. could convi congressman, i want to take you back to the beginning of the shooter's career and ask you how he got into the navy reserves in the first place when he had an incidence of violence involving a gun in his background. >> that's the type of questions congress will be asking. congress is returning to washington today, and part of our oversight function will be to review both this individual and also the system that's currently in place. the inspector general report cites failures across the system with the navy, and i think that's something that people
certainly would be very concerned about. >> so i guess your biggest fear would be there are more people in our military services or acting as contractors like the shooter. >> right. again, i'm having a great deal of difficulty hearing you. but the issue i think that we have to address is that, within hours of this shooting, this report was delivered to congress that had also been delivered to the navy and had told them to immediately cease using the system that they were using to vet contractors. as a result of that, congress needs to take a look at, does this contribute to the overall situation that we had yesterday and the fact that this report specifically said to cease using the system because contractors and military personnel were at risk is of grave concern. >> i'll just ask you one more question. bear with me. i want to ask you about sequestration because d.c.'s mayor came out and said xwe
sequestration is partly to blame for this. do you agree? >> p i think it's one of the issues we have to look at. i can tell you that the inspector general report does cite cost pressures on the navy for the decision making that put this system in place that may have caused the risk. but the report itself specifically says that people at these facilities remain at risk as long as this system is in place. that's certainly what congress is going to have to check on when we get back. >> congressman mike turner, thanks for hanging in there. important information imported to our viewers. thank you for joining us this morning. john? some of the crucial questions in the investigation right now involve the weapons used in the shooting. where did the gunman get the weapons? what did he use? our pamela brown has new surprising information about the guns. we'll tell you what that is, when we come back. ustomers can . but it doesn't usually work that way with health care.
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shootings that happened here just over 24 hours ago. we have a pretty important new development to tell you about. we've just learned that the atf has traced the weapons used in this shooting. cnn's pamela brown is all over this part of the story for us. pamela, what have you learned? >> as you mentioned, atf has traced the firearm. what we know from law enforcement services is the gunman walked in yesterday carrying a shotgun. we've learned from sources that the shooting bought it in the past few days and also rented and returned an ar-15 at a shooting range at that same location in laurten, virginia. our susan candiotti is reporting that he tried to buy that ar-15 but they want sell it to him. this is important because there was information out initially that he was armed with an ar-15 at the shooting. it is believed now that he walked in with a shotgun. there were two pistols also recovered. and that military personnel who were responding to the shooting
were carrying maybe one or more ar-15s. that's where the initial confusion came from. that's why that was reported. >> a number of items you mentioned that are hugely interesting. one, that it was a shotgun that he walked in ultimately and began this rampage yesterday. the second thing you mentioned, he tried to buy an ar-15 at this it place in northern virginia but they didn't sell it to him. any indication of why at this point? >> there's -- we're still trying to find that out. right now, as we speak, officials are trying to piece this together, trying to get the paperwork and figure out why, but we do know obviously he's had a history of mental health issues. he had made contact with two veterans affairs hospitals recently. so we don't know how all of this played a role in this, but, again, as we reported earlier, we know that according to law enforcement sources, they believe he bought a shotgun at this gun store in lorton, virginia. a lot of unanswered questions.
>> unanswered questions and information reporting seems to change but that's because what investigators have been telling us over the last 24 hours has changed hour by hour in some cases. what we're reporting is also the latest, clearest picture that we have. >> exactly. we hope people understand it is very fluid. investigators are on the scene looking at ballistics, shell casings and so forth, trying to piece this together. this could continue to evolve, but right now what we're being told is that the gunman walked in with a shotgun, two pistols were also recovered at the scene and one of the pistols recovered that the gunman took the pistol off of a guard that he shot. unclear where the third pistol came from. >> it's just interesting that he was able to buy an -- he was not able to buy an ar-15 but he could buy a shotgun. >> again, that bit of information just came out from susan candiotti, that he was at a shooting range at that location in lorton, virginia, where he bought the shotgun, according to sources in recent days.
unclear, though, why they wouldn't sell that to him. we're still learning. this is obviously a developing story. >> well, we will follow up on this. you are doing a great job, pamela brown. thanks so much. >> one of the big questions for investigators, how did an armed military contractor with a checkered past manage to pass through security inside building 197 at the navy yard and kill so many people? cnn justice reporter evan perez is following that part of the story. good morning. >> good morning, carol. that is exactly right. the investigators today are trying to figure out exactly, you know, how this suspect goes from having, as you said, some checkered history with law enforcement he's been arrested for some gun incidents in his past. yet in july, according to the company for which he worked, called the experts, a subcontractor working at the navy, he somehow passes a background check to get his
security clearance. there are about 4.9 million people with some kind of security clearance. subcontractors and government workers, this is a large universe of people. it's clear that this is something that congress and perhaps the white house wants to take a look at, which is perhaps taking a look at how many people have these clearances, whether or not it's too easy to get them. but without that clearance, it's clear he would not have the job that he had and would not have been able to make his way on to the navy yard yesterday, carol. >> kind of bring us through that process. how do you get clearance? is there a waiting period before you're granted clearance? >> that's again part of what's going to be investigated. the congressman who was on the air a short time ago i think is asking some of the same questions, which is, is the navy using the procedure, the
background questions that other parts of the government use? that's not clear right now. now, the arrest history is something that should come up in any kind of background check. again, it's not clear whether or not those came up, whether or not it was sufficient enough for him to be able to pass clearance. at this time, those are all the open questions investigators are trying to put together. >> i'm just picking up my notepad to refresh my memory. he was arrested, questioned by police four times? >> yes. he had incidents in washington state, near seattle, and in ft. worth, texas, both incidents involving firearms. in one he was accused of shooting through the floor of his naveighbor. he told police he was just cleaning his gun. he had run-ins with this neighbor, she was afraid of him.
in the seattle incident, he said he was reacting to people in a construction site. again, it seemed a bit unprovoked, but this is, again, part of the picture of his mental health, of his history of violence that i think investigators are trying to piece together today that could figure out what would have triggered the events yesterday, carol. >> evan perez, thanks so much. john? >> when we come back, putting together the pieces of a complicated and sometimes contradictory past. what are are the key elements that investigators are now looking for? we will speak to a former fbi official, straight ahead.
we continue our coverage now of the shooting here at the washington navy yard. as more questions are raised about security at the facility, the navy yard where 12 people were killed and 8 injured is home to 3,000 employ yoes, service members and civilians, just a few miles from t white house and u.s. capitol. joining me is shawn henry, former assistant director of the fbi and president of crowd strike services. shawntion as we mentioned, som 3,000 wok at this facility, hundreds presumably in building 197 where this incident occurred. are those the people investigate rz will start with? they'll talk to everyone there,
i imagine. what will they be asking? >> they'll want to absolutely talk to all the witnesses. clearly what they want to do is pout together a time line from the moment the shooting started until it ended and talk to all the witnesses to ensure, first of all, this was the only person. i think that's clear at this point. then going forward, did any of those people know alexis? did any of those people have any prior contact, had they seen him on the base, outside the base. has he been stalking the facility? >> the days and weeks in advance of this, so important. what did he do, if anything, in this building? >> yeah. this will be a domestic investigation across the united states. they'll be looking at people that have known him for years, people he may have gone to school with, people he served in the military with. they'll look at bank records, cell phone records, trying to piece together all of those pieces, critical to determine not only what he's done in the past but, was he planning something else, working with someone else, does he have koe conspirators or collaborators,
make sure for certain this is the sole incident and there's not another one coming up. >> they've gone to the residence inn where he's been staying here in washington. i understand people from cnn who have been there carrying boxes out of that hotel. >> that is a treasure trove, looking at documents, looking at computer records, looking at his house, his car. any piece of paper with a clue. >> what about his personal history? one of the disturbing things that is fascinating are the contradictions here. apparently devoted to buddhism. at the same time had been arrested for gun violence in the past, at least two if not more incidents of that. how do these contradictions affect an investigation? >> one of the things i've learned in my experience in the fbi is that these things don't often happen in a vacuum. there are flags that come up. oftentimes what you see of somebody is not what they really are. it's the investigation that will pull that out, that will tease that out, and provide investigators with the clues to come up with some information about what the motivation was. >> one of the things pamela
brown has reported is that this man reached out more than once in recent times to the va, possibly for some mental health help. as investigators, how much of that would you look into and legally how much can you? >> i think it's something that you want to look to towards motivation certainly. it's historically we've seen in shootings there has been some mental health connection. it's something investigators will look to. they'll look to people who know him, worked with him, might have seen signs this was upcoming. >> one more question about the guns here. the information we've been getting has changed over the last day. i'm wondering if you can help our audience understand how that can be. how yesterday it seemed to be an ar-15 everybody was talking about. we were told that was most likely the weapon used. today the information seems to have changed radically. it was a shotgun he walked in with. that's what he bought in northern virginia. he may have taken two pistol s once he was in the building. how does that information change so radically during an
investigation? >> that's the answer. it's just 24 hours. there's a fog of war in an incident like this. people don't always recall what they saw exactly. their emotions are high, adrenaline is high. they don't always know. it will be many days, perhaps weeks, before we really have the ground truth about what happened. >> chances are are things will change again. >> there's no doubt. >> shawn henry, thanks so much. >> thank you. >> fascinating. when we come back, we're going to -- actually, we'll turn our focus now to the gunman, 34-year-old aaron alexis. he began working at the navy yard just last week after working at multiple offices over the summer. despite having what navy officials say was a, quote, pattern of misconduct, alexis received an honorable discharge. larry barton is the ceo of american college and an expert in workplace violence. good morning. >> good morning, carol. >> do you think this is a case of workplace violence? >> well, it's going to take time, obviously. there's a lot of monday morning
quarter bakx backs right now. but it appears to be workplace violence related for the following reasons. this is somebody who clearly had dysfunction at work, was in and out of different positions in life. we know now for a fact that he was being treated at the va as recently as last movement the question is, was there a process from the va to connect to the navy to let them know a subcontractor was potentially under treatment? but, remember, the primary reason why it appears to be workplace violence is that it was done at a place of work, no different than captain hasan in ft. hood. it does appear to be workplace violence related but was it a specific person he was targeting, was it a policy, was it someone? that is very unclear. it may have been he just wanted to make a statement, and this is where he could commit the maximum amount of lethal impact. >> well, i think a lot of people would probably argue with you for your characterization of what happened at ft. hood, but let's focus on what happened yesterday at the u.s. navy yard.
this guy was a contractor, a subcontractor. he didn't work at the u.s. navy yard every day. he worked in many different places. so why choose this particular place? >> well, access -- many crimes are based on a few things and one of them has to do with availability, access, their anger level at this particular time. did someone or something actually trigger this event for him in recent days? and the most dangerous person at work -- i teach this both at the fbi and the american college -- that we interact with in society is called a grievance collector, what kind of grievances did he have? so it is unclear right now, but that's why investigators will be very thorough in trying to determine, was he angry with the navy yard? was it with his employer? or was it with any specific people? right now it does not appear that it was specific persons. he wanted to make a statement. the question is, what was the statement and yes? >> but if this is a case of
workplace violence, it would be very difficult to determine whether he was dangerous to this particular group of people. friends of his in texas say he was a happy, friendly guy, but lately he had changed and he worried about his income and the place where he was -- hp, the security firm he worked for, this computer security firm, he supposely had some trouble with them as far as wages were concerned. he had troubles with his car. he exhibited some signs of abnormal behavior but not many. so how would you know that this guy was a danger to any military facility that he worked at? >> i'm not sure anyone would know. your question is pot-on, carol. i'm not sure anyone would know that he was going to in any way do anything in a lethal fashion. but here's another example. his monk at his buddhism temple yesterday said that he had been told directly by alexis that he was troubled, that he had a lot
of personal problemsproblems. the challenge is, who connects the dots? i think that's what you're asking. smud anyone at that facility have known they were in harm's way? i don't think so. that's where investigators will look at access controls, which a big question. if people who are contractors have open access after their employment has ended through a basement, to be able to come in and get to a top floor and shoot down, these are fundamentals. that's why i think your congressman earlier had a terrific point, which is, let's make sure it doesn't happen again. it can happen again, but we can try to do everything possible to take this incident and learn from it. so who connected the dots? who knew what when? were there any lessons in terms of grievances, mental health, anything he wrote on a blog, anything that's in that hotel that now investigators are going through? i've studied, as i've said, 3,000 cases. we will learn at least a little bit more about perpetrators because of this tragedy. it's a horrible way to put it, but that's how we learn. >> i hope so.
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welcome back to our coverage of the washington navy yard shooting here just a few blocks from where i'm standing right now. it was just over 24 hours ago when 12 people went to work in the morning and were gunned down. they never went home. several more people were injured. there are so many questions about what happened and why. one of the people asking those questions is someone integral in bringing this part of the city up, raising up the standard of living. it's improved so much. this is a community that's come so far in recent years, only to see this tragedy yesterday. washington, d.c.'s delegate to congress representative in congress, eleanor holmes norton
joins us right now. thank you for being with us. i wonder if you can tell us, based on what you've seen today, how is washington recovering? >> well, for us, this is the greatest violence we've seen in our region since 9/11. the agency involved is one that is an integral part of our neighborhood. so this is not like a federal agency somewhere. it's a federal agency that you have to have in the daytime certainly a badge to get in, you have to be cleared. but in the evenings it is a facility that the navy allows the community to use in its banquet halls. washington is recovering, but washington needs a lot more answers. we perhaps feel most deep
areally that this man was able to get into such a secure facility with a gun. that's about the last thing you'd expect to happen, even in facility that's are not secure. >> what needs to happen to make sure that this doesn't occur again? he went in apparently with a valid security pass. he was given a security clearance just over the summer, despite incidents of violence, gun violence, in his past. what changes need to be made? you're going to see oversight by congress and you're going to see internal investigations. but this is a real issue that this man's condition, his mental condition, detier yaedetier yai got his clearance? there needs to be experts.
we don't want these facilities to be walled off. we want them to be part of the community. but we certainly want those who work there to be secure. i think this needs a rather special investigation, and i'm writing the president today to ask him to appoint just such a specialized panel. >> as a will separate thing than gun violence, what you're saying, security at military installations throughout the country. here at the washington navy ard yard, ft. hood is another example of what happened. that's what you're talking about, specific focus on that? >> who are these people? these were 12 federal employees, and everybody in there virtually was a federal employee, not military, because increasingly the department of defense has been moving its own civilian employees on to such military sites. the only thing military about
this was its security. it was part of the navy yard which has been renovated precisely because they wanted the navy systems command to remain here in this region. so we need -- we need -- we need much more information about keeping such federal employees, the same u.ones that are on sequester, the same ones that you read about every day who are taking cuts in their pay, who are these people, how can we make sure that they can live within our cities and still be secure? >> one last question, representative. whenever there is an event of violence involving guns and it invariably gets involved in the gun control debate, washington, d.c., has some of the strictest gun laws in the country, yet this incident still occurred. what can be learned from that? >> we can confiscate guns, sometimes thousands of them, every year. every last one of those guns
comes from outside of the district of columbia, comes from the region, comes from places that have lax gun laws. that's why you see many of us in congress fighting for national gun reform legislation. can't do it jurisdiction by jurisdiction. >> representative eleanor holmes norton, thank you so much for being with us. we're sorry for everything your city had has been going through over the last 24 hours. appreciate your time. >> thank you. also new this morning, law enforcement sources tell cnn that aaron alexis had recently reached out to the veterans administration's hospitals. he was apparently seeking help for psychological incidents. jeff gardere is a clinical psychologist. dr. jeff joins us from new york. good morning. >> good morning, carol. >> i want to take you back to 2001 because supposedly during that time this shooter, according to his father, did
something during 9/11 when the world trade center towers came down. his father said he suffered from post-traumatic stress syndrome and that's why in 2004 he had this incident where he shot out the cars of a construction worker's vehicle and he blacked out and couldn't remember it. does that make sense to you? >> well, we have to know that a lot of people experienced ptsd and did not engage in violence. so we have to look at what made this particular individual, if this is true, that he had this blackout or what we call a fugue state, part of a disassociation, which is part of a post-traumatic stress disorder, what made him more vulnerable to that, especially since he was a younger person and we know younger people are much more resilient to the symptoms of ptsd. so it does kind of fit, but i would assert, as we've seen with many of these shooters in the
past, carol, that they perhaps had a predisposition for some other mental health issue which may have not been diagnosed which put them in a position to suffer with a more complex ptsd and have this blackout or fugue state. >> now, supposedly the shooter actually told police he had this blackout and he couldn't remember shooting the tires of this vehicle. then he applies to get into the navy reserves, and they accept him. so do you recover from such a thing? should the navy have been more aware of that? maybe the navy didn't know? >> well, evidently, from what we're hear, the navy still did not think that he was unfit for duty, and that's why he got an honorable discharge. it could be because he was not experiencing what we call a schizophrenia but more of this complex ptsd where you have this
disassociation where you are in some ways separating yourself from reality, which might give us some indication as to what happened yesterday, though it's going to take many more days to figure out what his state of mind was. i'm hearing reports that he had reached out to the va, that perhaps he was hearing voices. he had some sleep issues. certainly there was some sort of paranoia. then we take a look at this criminal past, aggression, and of course the situation of rage which always rears its ugly head in these sorts of situations. so definitely some real mental health issues with this individu individual. >> dr. jeff gardere, thank you so much for joining us in the "newsroom" today. we appreciate it. >> still to come, the monumental task of righting the costa concordia is done, but the salvage operation is far from over. a live report from the coast of
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we'll have more on the shooting here at the washington navy yard in just a bit, but we want to take you overseas for a major, major accomplishment today. a salvage crew successfully righted the costa concordia earlier this morning, 20 months after the cruise liner ran aground off the coast of italy, killing 32 people. now, this move clears the way for a more thorough search to try to find the remains of two of the victims of that accident. cnn's matthew chance joins us right now. an amazing technological feat, matth matthew. >> reporter: it really is. i mean, all the authorities here, the people of giglio, the island where this wrecked costa convict toward area has been marooned for the past 20 months full of praise for the vsalvage team that pulled off a technological marvel, it's never been attempted to roll over a ship of this size, an absolutely enormous bit of machinery.
you can still see two-thirds of the ship underneath the sea line. there was some 4,200 people or more on board when it was marooned and crashed up against these rocks on the coast of giglio. they had to turn it over in a very slow, painstaking sort of technological exercise until it rested on that platform they've built on the seabed. now, the next step, of course, you mentioned is to search for the two bodies that were never recovered. 32 people died, 2 never recovered. rescue teams are inside now trying to see whether they can locate the bodies to bring closure for the families involved. the next step after that, it's back to the salvage operation. it's going to be refloated before it can be towed away to a salvage yard. john? >> the job not quite done yet. amazing what's been accomplished so far. matthew chance, thank you so much. we're going to get a check of today's other top stories in just a moment. "newsroom" continues after the
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this morning rejected any u.n. resolution authorizing force against syria. the u.s. and france want to keep that option if syria does not comply in a timely fashion. for the first time in a week, the sun dominates across colorado. as the weather improves, many people are returning home to find nothing left. hundreds of other people, though, are still unaccounted for. the floodwaters are slowly receding, but some runoff is heading toward nebraska and could fly towns in that state. investigators say last week's fire that involved dozens of businesses on the boardwalk along the jersey shore was an accident. we're expecting more specifics today. the belief of the cause was electrical. the fire started in an ice cream shop and quickly spread out of control. that's it for us. thank you for joining us. i'm carol costello. >> i'm john berman. "legal view" with ashleigh banfield continues right after the break. [ female announcer ] when it comes to your smile,
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