tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN November 1, 2013 9:00pm-10:01pm PDT
this is "piers morgan live." welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. tonight, breaking news on the deadly shooting at lax. chaos at airport when a gunman opens fire, the suspect paul anthony ciancia. he shot one tsa officer and wounded several others. the airport is open again and details tonight emerging. we have more from the airport and chris lawrence outside the suspect's home in new jersey.
we'll begin, what do we know about what happened today? >> reporter: passengers say it was a normal day at the airport when suddenly they heard very, very loud popping, one man said it sound the like it must have been from a large gun. many saw spark s and started running. there was the beat of calm and then absolute chaos, sheer terror as people were trying to flee this terminal. what happened afterwards is that after this gunman was taken down by the police, passengers here were completely stuck and it was gridlock. you can see, piers, there is still people walking up and down the streets trying to figure out how to get to the next destination. >> and in terms of actually what he did, we now know she shot dead one tsa officer. we think he wounded a second tsa
officer, a third person was also wounded. we believe and others may have suffered minor injuries in the stampede to get away. is that the correct position? >> that is absolutely correct, because when i went to the hospital, one of the hospitals that the patients were taken, one man was in critical condition shot in the chest apparently. what the other patients were suffering from, and they were considered more fair, one had some stray bullet wounds, but the other was twlly crush wounds from trying to escape, that it was such a chaotic scene, people were trying to flee, running over each other, topping over each other. those were injuries, about seven people injured but you can imagine the terror stepping over someone to get away. >> we know the suspect was shot three times in the chest. he's fairly seriously injured. we know a miraculous escape from people kyung because he has an assault rifle. it's being described as an ar-15
like gun but that's not confirmed yet but he certainly had three magazines for this weapon and could have killed a lot of people if he wanted to. >> reporter: and that's really where the terror comes in. if you talk to these passengers about what is it that frightens them the most, first of all, the sound. and even someone who doesn't really know weaponry, i kept hearing it, it sounded like it must have come from a very large weapon and the immediate thought is how many other magazine clips are there? because that's a concern. this is almost somewhat regularment and we know what happens in a mass shooting. people are aware of it. it has taken on the public spotlight. so the question is not just that initial shooting, do you change and then load it again. >> what is the situation at the airport in terms of flights in and out and what do they predict this weekend and what kind of impact has it had across america? presumably lots of flights cancelled in and out of lax today, one of the busiest
airports of the world. >> one of the busiest in the world and 5.5 hours completely shut down. nothing landing, nothing taken off, 700 flights diverted or cancelled and then 76,000 passengers who had nowhere to go. so what you're seeing, see this, piers, all this traffic up and down this way? this isn't typical. you don't normally see this. people are walking in and out of the airport trying to figure out what to do, where to go and these people will be looking at 24 hours of this. >> kyung thank you very much indeed. now we go to chris lawrence at the shooter's family home in new jersey. chris, what do we know about him. we know he's 23 years old. he's called paul anthony ciancia. what else? >> reporter: we are getting a picture of him, his life and growing up here in the east coast and his background here with the family.
standing outside of his dad's home in pennsville. the police have been here for most of the night now. the police chief is actually inside that house, still speaking with the family. we know he grew up in this area. neighbors say it was a very close knit family. the police chief says they had no problems with this family whatsoever. in fact, the neighbor says that his dad was a well-respected member of the community, a business owner. his son paul worked for his father for several years before heading out west to live in los angeles so seems like have arnormal life from everything we're learning here but the police chief also said and told some local reporters that he had received indications from paul ciancia's father that he might try to harm himself and contacted counter participants in the los angeles police department. we're trying to verify details with the police now but seems like the police were trying to
give a heads up to the lapd 679 piers? >> i think cnn learned in the last few minutes, actually, we believe there were text messages possibly sent by this suspect the his brother and father which were of angry and rambling nature indicating anti-government position and also dissatisfaction of living in los angeles. we have not verified another report that he used the word suicide. so still a moving fluid situation and we'll try and confirm more details later on. for now, chris, thank you very much, indeed. now to the terror felt by those who were there. with me now two witnesses to the shooting, dana star field and bill. let me start with you, if i may. i've been following your tweets for almost the moment this happened. a terrifying thing to have happened. i use that very terminal maybe three, four times a month. know it very well and i can't imagine anything more
frightening than what happened there today. >> yeah, it was certainly the host frightening experience of my life, piers. if you know the terminal there is a part that goes to where gate 33 b is you have three walls and a very narrow hallway that leads to it. that's where i was and several people that believe the shooter was close and believe our life was in danger and a very terrifying moment. >> we believe that this guy was intent on harming tsa officials to the extent that he was actually asking people directly, are you tsa? >> that's -- the holding area where they held all of us, those from term neil three where the shooting occurred and two and three, that's what people said. i talked to a gentleman that stood next to the shooter and said that he was 3 feet from him. he had a large gun with a scope and he thought he heard him say to someone do you work for tsa and turned and ran. those accounts that i read online seem to be true based on the people i visited with today
who were actually there. >> and bill, did you get any indication of exactly what helped he used? the police described it as an assault rifle but we don't know yet exactly what type. did you have any indication from people you talked to? >> i don't know. the only indication i have is from a gentleman i rode the bus with who saw the shooter from down that hallway, that it was a large rifle and had a scope and this gentleman that i talked to believed there was a red dot from that scope that moved across his chest and the chest of the people around him. other than that one account, your guess or report is certainly as good as mine. >> what was going through you mind, bill, when this started and you heard these bullets going off and this guy shooting indiscreme anytimely, what was going through your head? >> i was going to board a flight to filg phil and i was out late with my kids for halloween. i heard multiple shots, a pause and shots again.
i dove under basically a bench and frankly, piers, i thought i was probably going to die. that was the mood in the room. so i called my wife on my cell phone from under that bench to say good-bye and that call lasted maybe 20, 30 seconds, let her know i love her and my children and if i didn't see them again, i wanted that to be the last thing i said to her. >> wow, absolutely terrifying. bill reiter thanks for joining me. >> you come from the airport. you are at the top of the escalator and he's at the bottom with the gun. you have no idea what is happening but hear it. tell me what you experienced. >> we were getting ready to show our ids. at the top of the escalator and i was on time for the first time in my life which my husband kept thanking me for because god forbid we were a minute later, don't know what would happen. we heard a loud boom and didn't sound like a gunshot and fortunately, i've heard gunshots before and i didn't sound like a pop.
it sounded like a boom so at first i couldn't tell if there was an accident or explosion or what it was before we had a chance to turn around we heard someone scream gun and security agents screamed get down, get down, get down. we heard another boom go off. my husband and i got down on the ground and is isn't sure because we were on the other side of the security check point, i wasn't sure if they were going to start letting people through but everybody was crawling through so we crawled through the detectors and, you know, everyone was running through, took a little nasty spill and it almost feels like a dream of how i got there but my husband lead us down a hallway. >> what was the atmosphere? blind panic? >> a quiet panic. it was -- i don't know how it was down stairs. i assume a little bit more crazy but a blind panic. people were crawling all over oovp other and my glasses got
knocked off so i couldn't see much and held on my husband's hand. but it was a -- it was security guards were yelling go, go, go, get down, get down, go, go, go but other than that, people were just trying to find a spot, and i think unfortunately, this is, you know, this isn't the first time we've heard this story and people heard on the news what people have done so i think our first instinct was to get into a room. i always remember in the interview with the teacher from sandy hook said she kept her kids safe by locking her kids in a bathroom and turning off the lights and pretending nobody was in there. virgin employees, a man that is not normally there said he was there to take a survey for virgin led us into this room. it's a security -- sorry, supply closet, closed the door and there were five or six other people in the room with us. >> and thankfully, it passed and
it was dealt with. i mean, how do you feel finally about what happened to you today? >> i feel extremely grateful. i feel angry that this feels like ground hog day and, you know, there -- everyone is always saying it's too soon to have a discussion about assault rifles. i just went through trama and i think right now is not too soon. i think that the agent who lost his life today, i think his family would agree that today -- i don't want to speak for them, my prayers go out to them but today is not too soon. >> dana, thank you very much indeed. i'm glad your husband and other thors that survived are in one piece. it could have been a hell of a lot worse. breaking news a federal law enforcement has a photograph of the suspect paul anthony ciancia. ray la hood served as secretary and joins me now. let me ask you the obvious question. could anything more have been
done to prevent this and is there anything that can be done in light of what happened to improve security at places like lax? >> well, piers, as somebody who was in public service for 35 years, our hearts and prayers go out to the loved ones of those who lost loved ones today. good public servants, people well-trained and were in the line of defense. i think everything really worked as well as it could have worked at lax today where law enforcement people stepped in and saved a lot of lives, did what they were trained to do, whether it was the tsa, whether it was the police. the system worked pretty well, piers. and i think we should all take a great deal of comfort in knowing that the system that was put in place after 9/11, the system that has kept a lot of americans safe on aircraft worked well
today. >> i totally endorse what you're saying. there are calls from certain sections that the only answer to an incident like this is for the tsa to be armed themselves. what was your reaction be to that? >> well, piers, let -- let me just say that's a silly idea. it's a dumb idea. it would not work. what happened today was the law enforcement people add lax, the lax police, the people that are trained at the airport to intervene did that and they saved a lot of lives. the tsa people did what they were supposed to do, which made sure that people were taken to safe haven and unfortunately, some good public servants were -- a good public servant was killed today and some injured, but this is a system that worked, and i think most americans would agree with that.
>> ray la hood, thank you very much indeed for joining me. >> thank you, piers. coming up next, what a long strange week it's been. bill maher joins me to talk about his stand on pot, guns and why he's taking ted cruz more seriously than he might imagine. when we made our commitment to the gulf, bp had two big goals: help the gulf recover and learn from what happened so we could be a better, safer energy company. i can tell you - safety is at the heart of everything we do.
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business. >> is it any worse than it's always been in reality? you covered this for so long, what do you think? >> the country in general is in a decline. as british you probably understand that. are people getting stupider? they were there and still are. i can't imagine how stupid they have gotten. it hard if you're a politician, not that i'm that sympathetic to try to get information into people's heads. i don't think obama should have lied to people. >> it was a lie, wasn't it? >> hold on first of all, insurance companies are always dropping people. it went on before obama care and still. we're losing perspective. he couldn't have been so play tent to say ironclad guarantee. can you imagine what it would be
like if he said yeah, some people your rates will go up. the thing passed by this much. if they said that, they might have lost the whole thing and politicians are always making compromises like that for crying out loud. they made a compromise on slavery. >> when i see the president of the united states repeatedly including the state of the union assuring the american people, look, you want to keep your doctor, plan you will. he said it again and again and again. >> let's look perspective again on this. why did we do this? why did obama -- a lot of people when they got into office said he made a big his stake. this is the economy. we went into this for a couple runs. upwards of 50,000 people were dying every year, needlessly
dying because they didn't have health coverage. if that many people died from terrorism we would probably be using nukes on some country. the other reason is it was bankrupting the country. we had to do something. what is the republican alternative? i get this is not working out perfectly. i don't think anybody thought it would but what is their alternative? the status quo. if you're poor go to the emergency room and walk it off. besides the fact that is awfully cruel to ask any people to wait on a health issue until it an emergency. wait until that appendix bursts young lady, then we'll go to the emergency room is counterproductive and for the people about the takers, this is a massive hidden tax. we wind up paying for that. that's a reason why health care costs so much. >> right, i agree with you and support the principles of obama care and more frustrated that the system failed allowing perhaps the whole thing to
collapse. we don't know how it will play out but the very people they need to get enrolled, the young people that are healthy now that may have 30, 40, 50 years, they are the ones they have to get. if they are turned away from this -- >> first of all, every program of this size was a headache at first. so was bush's medicare prescription drug program for the old folks. remember that, hey, free viagra, have a boner on george bush. remember me at the polls. they didn't like that at first, now it's popular. s is, medicare, all these programs have these kind on problems when you start with them. but the reason why it's going to work is women. yes, young men do not want to sign up because they think they are invincible. women get it. women are a little more complicated. they want contraception, they want breast examines, they are smarter about that, they don't
think they are invincible. it has problems but with all the problems, in four polls last week, obama care is more popular than ever and they say 54% of people are against obama care. it's very, very misleading. that includes the 16% of people that don't think it goes far enough. americans really want coverage, of course. it's going to be popular. it about the health, the health of your family, life and death issue. it is there and created because people were dying and the country was going broke. it's going to be a rocky start but it is not going to fail. >> should sebelius go? for the fact the system started so badly? >> i'm not a big fan of scapegoating. >> ever? >> well, yeah, ever if it's actually scapegoating. >> are you a fan of accountability where people -- >> on course. >> if someone is in charge of it.
>> there is a difference between accountability and scapegoating. if she really is somebody who should have known what she didn't know, yeah, i guess so but right in the middle of it, i think it counterproductive to get rid of the person that the been there ai all along and has more of this in her head and knows the details, why get rid of her now to make the situation worse? >> when she says we're going to bring in the a team, i'm like hold on a second, this is the president's great initiative. >> i know. >> where was the a team before? >> that's absolutely true. there is no defense to that. i would never defend him on that. that's so ridiculous and frustrating for any progrez sieves but this again, was his great signature achievement. >> why didn't he know a month before when all these warning signs apparently were there that it wasn't ready, failing. >> right. >> is it really credible that the president whose massive legacy may be based around this didn't know anything about it being problematic? >> not credible and excusable. i thought he was the detail guy.
as michael moore said on my show friday night, you know, young people the ones trying to sign up, this is a glitch in the world they live in. >> this is grand dad not knowing how to use the internet. >> well, if i use the clicker, will i get coverage? so this just is no way to excuse it or say it a good thing but again, we'll see where we are in a month. >> let's play a clip. this is what eric cantor said. >> if the president knew these letters were coming and still indicated that you could keep your health care plan if you liked it, now that raises some serious questions about the sales job of obama care, and that the why we're all saying that we shouldn't allow the american people to be impacted like this. >> i agree with cantor's criticism of obama care in the way it's been sold and rolled out. i think it's been sold on a lot on untruths, misleading statements, whatever you want to call it and i'll agree with you
in the end, if the ends game that comes in five, six months whatever is actually beginning to work, it's a pretty good plan. >> also, let's again have a little perspective. was any program ever, ever sabotaged to the degree this one has been? i mean, it's been three years. it's not a bill. it's a law. i know the tea people think they know the constitution. i don't think they have read it. a bill becomes a law. once it does, you don't argue about it. that the now how they played it. they will filibuster. we will shut down the defendant. we'll go to the matt in every possible way and book to repeal it 41 times. really, that's the patriot i can thing to do about a program trying to bring health care to people in this country who don't have it? >> i have warned you nicely to leave the top of the pot and the boiling center coming out of you, i want to mention two words to you to come back after the break. >> all true. >> think about it, ted cruz. >> great.
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>> bill maher to compare ted cruz to miley cyrus. >> i forgot about that. >> yeah. >> i remember saying his filibustering is the equation of twerking. he was twerking when he did that. >> i'll warm you up by play what ann coulter -- >> twerking, ironically. >> let's get to two ann coulter told me about ted cruz' chances of becoming president. >> there will be arguments in a party of ideas. that is one thing as i point out in this book, democrats have an advantage. all they want is power. they spend their lives figuring out how do we get elected so we can run other people's lives. >> you actually have her on your show friday, don't you? do you make of her argument? >> it's always perfect, perfectly wrong. you know, the wrong -- right, it the democrats who on the care about power. that the right.
look, every politician cares about pow tore a certain degree, but democrats, i think in general, they are the policy wonks. first of all, that the a nonsensical argument. if you ask about ted cruz, i don't know her answer on that but i think he has a shot because i think he as an absolute shot on the nomination. he'll definitely be the favorite of the people who vote in republican primaries. we saw what it looked like last time and the time before, but the problem with the republican primaries last time for them is that they didn't have a ted cruz in there. that's why they went with mitt romney. remember, they tried every other person, every other republican got a shot at being number one, newt gingrich and hermann cane and rick perry. >> michele bachmann. >> but all even too ridiculous and lame for the tea party. but ted cruz is a harvard
educated lawyer, he's not a dummy. >> allen told me a bright person. >> you can't under estimate it. he played it exactly right. he's their hero. he's the guy they think finally stood up to the establishment and did what he said and went to washington and blah, blah, blah so he's going to be very difficult to beat in the primaries. >> could it be him against chris christie? >> probably will be. >> who will prevail? >> you know, if it's the primary voters who vote every time, i think it will be ted cruz. chris christie may already be toast because during hurricane sandy, he put his arm around president blackenstein and put his arm around kenya cooties. >> what would he say about america if ted cruz was to win the presidency?
>> you mean overseas? >> yeah, what would it mean for americas and america's reputation, do you think? >> we don't know until -- he became president what it would mean. the republicans are the masters of the are you kidding he candidate? when ronald reagan first ran people are like are you kidding he? ronald reagan, the bonzo guy getting into politics. george w bush when he first ran people thought it was his father, sarah palin they have no shame. so i'm not surprised it will be ted cruz, better than rick santorum. >> let take a break and come back to talk two two things dear to your heart, sex and drugs. >> wow. >> either order, doesn't matter. when we made our commitment to the gulf, bp had two big goals: help the gulf recover and learn from what happened so we could be a better, safer energy company.
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now that a record 58% of americans support the legalization of marijuana, federal government has to hurry up and do something about it. come on guys, i have to decide what i'm handing out for halloween. >> back with my special guest bill maher. people tweeting, bill maher well said tonight on health care. >> thank you mia. >> realtime, real opinion. >> congratulations on your new celebrity son. >> very interesting. tell me this because you're the perfect guy to ask, why is it that issues like gay rights and marijuana have moved so fast and so liberally if you like and
yet, nothing has happened on guns? does it say about american culture that those two issues people are very happy to move in times and change but one is culturely apparently irrevocable? >> because first of all, we're the gun country. >> will it ever change? >> probably not in my lifetime, although, less and less people have guns. the more guns being sold -- >> less people have more guns, isn't that right? >> right, it's the people -- it's a fetish at this point, you know. look, i'm a gun owner. i'm just not a proud gun owner. i don't like guns. i would never want to have to use a gun. i always say they are like antibiotics, i hope i never have to use them. but i don't love my antibiotics. i don't polish my amoxicillin and take pictures with mine and put it in a glass case. they are trying to limit people to one gun a month and that was not acceptable.
>> extraordinary. >> i know, what about christmas when you have to buy guns for everybody, the kids? >> the number of people being killed by guns is rocketing. a huge surge in the persistent accidental or otherwise deaths -- >> to answer your question why it is not changing. there is no opposition party. the democrats love guns, too. >> right. >> they just love guns slightly less, and i mean, i would not be inspired by what the democrats say about guns, either. joe biden said this year, you want a gun, buy a shotgun. well that guy in washington naval center, i think he was listening to joe biden because he used a shotgun. i always say the democrats are asking for a three-second waiting period because that's what it would be if you limited the number of clips. someone would have to change clips and shoot again.
unless we got a real political party that was going to go at the second amendment directly, which they should because the second amendment was never meant to be what it come down to and surprise court said it was now, nothing there change. that's how americans like it. >> bill clinton said the only way it will change is if american people went to the ballot box and actively voted in favor of people who were in favor of some form of gun control. >> i doubt if that will happen. >> which he didn't think would happen. >> the democrats would know. al gore lost his home state and the lesson democrats said about that don't come out against guns too strongly. they had to say something after sandy hook and the mansion to me bill that came out, it wouldn't affect whether anybody would live or die in this country. maybe a few in the margins. >> on a positive note on gay
rights and on many would say it's a positive, marijuana as well, much more accept tense. are you surprised at the speed those things moved in public opinion? >> i would hard recall it speedy. when i was in college i remember talking about well, when we get a little older, marijuana will be legal because, you know, we know it's not harmful and we'll be the ones to take over. well i'm 57 now and two states have it legal. it hasn't exactly been a speedy trip but now that 58% of people -- that was a shocking poll we had last week. 58% of people want marijuana to be legal. yeah, we're working on something this week, which is basically the ideas the republicans would be smart this steal this issues that could steal it from the democrats. democrats dropped the ball and afraid of the polls. they are not afraid of the polls. they move polls, don't run from them. democrats run from the polls.
as soon as gay marriage was at 51% approval, suddenly a lot of democrats evolved on that issue. now that it's at 58% for pot, we'll see but i wouldn't bet on it because marijuana being against marijuana has always been a little fig league democrats like to use to show they are tough on crime and main stream and all this nonsense but they should be careful because even john mccain said last week, maybe we should legalize it and listen to the will of the people and ran paul on that page. republicans could take this issue because unlike other issues, this does not violate their principles. they are the people that want less government regulation, more individual freedom, what better than embracing pot? i say that like they will do it, they won't. if they are smart, they would. >> could you see a time in 30, 40 years in america where issues like gay marriage, marijuana became federal issues, just a federal law encompassing the
whole of america? >> absolutely. that's what happens when a tipping point is reached with the states, i think that's what will happen with gay marriage and probably some day with marijuana itself. one reason to answer your question why marijuana moved so slowly -- >> i thought it moved quite quickly but you don't think it has. >> i don't think it has, because people always found it so easy to get weed. >> right. >> even before they had medical marijuana stores, i dnlt know anybody in america that couldn't get weed like that and that includes kids in high school. so there was never big motivation we got to make it legal. >> let's take another break and come back and talk about low t. what you call the feminine of the country. fascinating. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] eenie. meenie. miney. go. ♪
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i love it like a hobby. i work on the details like building a ship in the bottle when i put the act together but i wouldn't drag my ass around in this country if i didn't. i've been lucky enough to be on tv for 20 years but it will end at some point. it will happen to all of us. and i'll still have stand up. >> will you literally do standup until the day they carry you out in a box? >> george karl did. >> your dream exit from life? >> it would be a great way to go. >> as an atheist it's final at that moment. >> george burns almost made it. >> do you think you'll live to be 100? >> i hope rays is right and we'll all live forever because he says the singularity is coming in the year 2029. he points out we're already partly machine. people have stints and artificial hearts and dick
cheney is healthier than he was at 40. dick cheney is a lucky guy. every time he was about to croak, they came up -- >> i interviewed his surgeon this week. i asked if he thought he played a valuable -- he didn't think was that funny. >> i called dick cheney home and he refused to go. >> let's play the clip from dick cheney and bill o'reilly. >> there are elements like fox, like your show that i think are seriously objective and reflective of what i think a lot of americans believe. i do find that the main stream media often times is what i'd consider off base or has a bias. >> so, fox is the voice of reason. >> is that -- is he the ill legitimate father of ann coulter? that's of course ridiculous. fox news? one of the main problems as we all know with the republican party in this era is where they get their information.
you know, they get it in this bubble, and if you look at republican polling, and i'm not talking about just the tea party. i'm talking about the main stream republican party, look at some of the astounding percentages of what they believe like 44% think benghazi is the worst scandal ever. really? worse than watergate and the trail of tears and slavery and japanese, giving syphilis to benghazi patients? really? 44% thinking obama is conniving for a way to stay in office past 2017. i mean, these -- >> [ laughter ] >> this is because they live in the fox news bubble because in that bubble, benghazi for example is just the worst scandal that ever happened. >> tell me, now we have fox news and msnbc, cnn, plenty of choice out there. does it really matter? does it matter that fox news
does it's agenda and rachel does hers? you go where you -- my dad came to america the first time last year listened to bill o'reilly every night and why can't we have a bill o'reilly. when we didn't used to have these places where you could retreat to your thinking, public discourage was the better for it because you had to hear a conflicting idea. now you don't. and that's true on the left, too and cnn suffers for that to a degree >> people generally want to hear what they already believe in. the difference between fox and msnbc, you could fact check what they say on msnbc. and they are very rarely wrong. they are not flying in the face of facts. fact check what they say on fox. almost every night bill o'reilley says something that is
insanely off base and not true. it doesn't matter. what republicans do is they meet in their lair, get their talking points straight all together. they go out on the talk show. they say the exact same talking points. things like well obama care is causing people to fire workers and hire them back as part-timers. completely not true. they don't care. >> i don't ear remember that. >> you actually wrestled jay leno on camera. when we made our commitment to the gulf, bp had two big goals: help the gulf recover and learn from what happened so we could be a better, safer energy company.
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>> these small things make an enormous difference in the life of a child. it's really just a kid being a kid. >> my wish was for a suit so that i could attend a family member's funeral. it meant a lot that someone took the time and they knew that was important. this looks awesome. >> when a child's wish is granted, we are reassuring them that their voices are being heard. >> i love you, evy. >> that this is this big world out there that just wants to wrap their arms around them and protect them. and we need to all step up an do that.
>> you're very good-looking man. >> thank you very much. [ cheers and applause ] >> two comics, one baby pool back in 1994. you couldn't even remember that happening? >> i'm watching it and it's really not even coming back to me. you'd think i would remember that. >> kind of thing i'd remember. >> oh, look at that. see, jay always has to win. so immature, jay. >> what do you make of jay leno bowing out? >> i love jay leno. i'm unabashedly a fan. >> why does he get a hard rap from other comedians? jealousy? >> i think so. a lot of people could do better in their personal life saying what would jay do and their professional life.
he's held down that job for 20 years. talking about johnny carson being put out to pass tur when he was 67. but johnny had gotten a little old hat by that time. jay is pretty much the same jay that he was. i understand why networks want to get rid of people. but this is twice they're firing him for the crime of being number one. for any of you young people out there looking to get into show business, here is a great tip. you need an agent. this is the great lesson of the jay leno fiasco. jay doesn't have an agent. he doesn't have someone talking in the ear of the network executive like the other guys do saying, get rid of jay. he's too old. if he had an agent all the agent would have to do, he's number one. he's your cash cow. don't get rid of the guy who's number one. he doesn't have that. >> do you have an age intelligent. >> of course. i'm not insane. you have to have someone representing you. >> bill maher, i could talk to you for hours. catch bill maher on hbo -- he'll be in las vegas november 2nd and
3rd and new orleans on november 16th. great to see you. >> thank you so much. appreciate it. great pleasure. come back soon, bill. good evening. up next, a violent thunderstorm provides cover for a brutal murder. >> an absolutely brutal crime scene. >> obviously this was a case of an overkill. >> there are plenty of suspects with clear motives, but they all pass polygraph tests. >> it is not 100% reliable. >> if investigators didn't find the one tiny clue left at the scene, they might never have solved it. the real estate development business in texas always seems to be active.