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of course, you have to have a job to do that, too. but that is great advice. >> start young. that is great advice. that's all from us here today on "newsroom." we'll be back here again tomorrow. now "the lead" with jake tapper begins right now. bill clinton's right about barack obama, says our guest. former alaska governor sarah palin. he was right back in 2008, she says. meanwhile, the former president is giving the current president another headache about obama care. i'm jake tapper. this is "the lead." the national lead. some breaking news. are you taking statins to lower your cholesterol? maybe you should. the american heart association just released new advice that could change everything you think you know about fighting the artery clogger. the world lead. the effort is massive. relief is on the ground but the wreckage from the super typhoon is so widespread, relief may not get there in time for those who need it most.
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and bill clinton calling out president obama for telling people if you like your plan, you can keep your plan and could it be sarah palin siding with bill clinton on something? the former vice presidential nominee goes full on mama grizzly on everything from what she describes as the war on christmas to governor chris christie's weight to the moment she became born again and what she said god helped her survive. some surprising moments from our sit-down. good afternoon. welcome to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. we begin with breaking news in our national lead. it's being called a tectonic shift in the way cholesterol is treated in this country, which never met a food it couldn't improve by wrapping bacon around it. right now, this hour, the american heart association and american college of cardiologists are releasing new guidelines that could mean a new prescription in your very near future. the report advises that more americans, talking tens of millions, should be taking statins to reduce their cholesterol levels. are you confused about good cholesterol versus bad
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cholesterol? you know what the difference is? apparently that doesn't matter much anymore. i want to bring in our chief medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta. what makes these new guidelines so monumental? sanjay gupta, can you hear me? all right. we're obviously having some problems with sanjay. we will come back to him in a second. now we will turn to the world lead. if you approach st. paul's hospital in the typhoon devastated city of tacloban in the philippines, you will see a hand-drawn sign that reads no admissions, no supplies. a blunt on-target summation of the desperate situation throughout the country. cargo flights are arriving. hundreds of tons of supplies are waiting. but conditions on the ground are keeping help out of some of the most affected areas. debris is blocking many roads and there is no power, no communication and no clean drinking water sources in wide swaths of the country.
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another storm swept through exponentially less severe but certainly not helping matters. currently, there are 250 u.s. service members on the ground in the philippines and more help is coming from america. the "uss george washington" aircraft carrier and several other navy ships are on their way. meanwhile, the state department confirms that two american citizens are among the dead, though the state department has not released their names. however, in what counts as good news relatively speaking, the president of the philippines says the death toll is likely lower than initial estimates, probably closer to 2500. anderson cooper is on the ground in tacloban and joins us now. you have seen first-hand the difficulties in getting this relief out. tell us what you're seeing. >> reporter: it is a miserable, miserable situation here, and it does not seem to be getting better day by day. we are now entering the fifth day since this storm hit here in tacloban, and i can tell you, we're at the airport now or what's left of the airport. there are hundreds of people here who have been sitting all
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night, they have nowhere else to go. if you walk three blocks in that direction, you will find people sleeping in makeshift huts, basically, or sleeping out in the exposed rain close to the bodies of their loved ones which nobody has picked up because there is nobody here to pick them up. you would expect perhaps to see maybe a feeding center that had been set up five days after the storm. we haven't seen that, certainly not in this area. some food is being brought to people here at the airport, some water being distributed, but it is very, very difficult conditions for the people here on the ground, and it's not clear how much longer it can continue like this. something has got to give. there is hope that the airport will at some point be opened by the u.s. marines to operate on 24 hour basis. that has not yet happened yet. there was a lot of talk about that yesterday. that has not occurred. we have been here all night. no flights were coming in once night came. it is a very desperate situation. among the most -- among the most
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desperate i have seen in covering disasters over the last couple years, jake. >> anderson, where are the relief workers and where are the people looking for help? and how can they not be brought together? >> reporter: well, there are certainly a lot of people who would like help. i was out yesterday just walking neighborhoods nearby here. it's very hard to get a vehicle so you just walk around and found a handful of people right away. everybody we talked to has lost somebody and is literally searching for somebody. one woman searching for three of her children. another woman has already found three of her children dead. she's looking for the other three. her husband is dead. she pointed me to their bodies. but there's nobody helping. we did see a volunteer group of firemen who were out collecting bodies. they had body bags, they were putting people into them and taking them off in an ambulance. but that's a drop in the bucket. and as to the question of where is the bigger relief effort, i'm
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not exactly clear. it could be happening in some other place but this is the airport in tacloban and you would think, if you would see it anywhere, this would be the main staging ground. certainly philippine military are on the ground here, some trucks have gone out, but i was in japan right after the tsunami there two years ago, and you know, within a day or two, you had japanese defense forces going out, carving up cities into grids and going out on foot, looking for people, looking, walking through the wreckage. we have not seen that here in any kind of large scale operation. >> anderson, with your vast expertise covering these types of disasters, what's your message for u.s. or international policy makers whose job it is to bring supplies and relief to the suffering people of the philippines, from your vantage point? what do they need to do and what do they need know? >> reporter: certainly u.s. military personnel are on the
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ground. there are a group of marines that set up operation. the marines have checked out the airport. i know that is under way and that cannot come soon enough. but you know, as for who exactly is in charge of the philippines side of this operation, that is not really clear. i'm just surprised that i haven't -- i expected on this day five, i thought i had maybe gotten here very late, that things would be well in hand. it does not seem like that. people are desperate. people do not have anyplace for shelter. it is very difficult for people to get food. neighbors are helping out neighbors. water is in short supply. it is a very, very bad situation here. >> anderson cooper, thank you so much. stay safe. we know everybody will be watching "360" later tonight. back to the breaking national lead. the new reports that recommend statins for millions more americans to cut their cholesterol are coming out this hour. i want to bring back our chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay
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gupta. sanjay, sorry about the technical difficulties. >> it happens. >> what makes these new guidelines so monumental? >> well, as you mentioned, this is a huge shift, sort of in the way we think about cholesterol and probably heart disease overall. obviously a continued focus on trying to prevent these problems in the first place, but also this idea that look, we have a better idea of how heart disease develops and should more people be on statin medications. it's interesting, a lot of people know their numbers, so to speak. they know what constitutes bad cholesterol. you want your total cholesterol below 200, your hdl, your good cholesterol, above 60, ldl below 100. now, i throw those numbers at you because a lot of people know these numbers but as you pointed out, they're not that relevant anymore in this new sort of paradigm. instead, they're looking at specific risk factors and saying you take a statin if you have diabetes, period. that's it. if you have evidence of heart disease, doesn't matter what your cholesterol is, you take a statin. if you have a bad cholesterol
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over 190, that's usually in people with congenitally high cholesterol, they take a statin and this spinal thing, this ten-year risk. if your chance of developing heart disease over ten years is over 7.5%, you take a statin. so this is a big difference not only in how many people will take statins but in the way the medical establishment sort of approaches this whole thing as well. >> sanjay, explain this ten-year heart disease risk score. what is that and how is it factored, how is it figured out? >> this is sort of a little bit more of a potpourri. it involves a few different types of risk factors, including things like blood pressure and family history. there was a study known as the framingham heart study. you may have heard of this. it was one of the largest heart studies that made some links between cholesterol and heart disease. this takes in several different factors and then calculates a risk. your doctor can do it for you. eventually the american heart association will have a calculator on their website as part of this whole thing so you can put in your own numbers and your own history and blood pressure and figure out what
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your risk actually is. >> sanjay, some experts have said that these new recommendations from -- that are out just this hour, just in the last nine minutes, could double the number of americans taking statins. is that safe? what are the side effects? >> i think first of all it's accurate, if you looked at this and looked at how many people would now qualify, it could be double. it go from around 35 million closer to 70 million. is it safe? it's a good question. even as a doc, i'm very -- i ask a lot of questions before prescribing medications. there are side effects from these medications. you can have muscle aches which may sound like a small thing but they may be profound. people may not exercise or be as active. they can cause liver problems and people have to have their liver evaluated from time to time if they're on these medications but there's almost a larger question here about the role of interventions overall. if i went to the doctor and said look, am i going to live longer as a result of taking a statin under these new guidelines, that's a harder question to
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answer. while it may decrease the amount of heart disease, decrease the number of heart attacks and strokes, all very important, the outcome of longevity of life is a little less proven. so that's something that the debate goes back and forth on. >> dr. sanjay gupta with big health news. thank you so much. >> you got it. thank you. coming up on "the lead" we go back to the philippines where worried families are still searching for loved ones. i will talk to one rescue worker about the struggle to get food and water to those who need it most. first, she'll never vote for her but sarah palin is happy to commiserate with hillary clinton about sexist media coverage of her. plus, the moment sarah palin became born again. my sit-down interview with the former governor of alaska is next. vo: two years of grad school. 20 years with the company. thousands of presentations. and one hard earned partnership. it took a lot of work to get this far. so now i'm supposed to take a back seat when it comes to my investments?
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former alaska governor and former vice presidential candidate never really left. i sat down with governor palin just a short time ago, earlier today, and with all the talk about elephants in the room, to steal a phrase from "time" magazine, i had to ask for her unvarnished take on 2016. so i know you're not -- you wouldn't vote for hillary clinton if she ran for president, but i remember in '08 after you got the nod, you talked about the unfair media treatment that hillary clinton got when she was running for president. >> yes. >> and you probably feel like you got some of that unfair media treatment as well. sexism. if there's any woman out there thinking of running for president, what can she expect? >> she can expect that sexism but you overcome it, you know. you ignore it. you thicken your skin and you march forth with your message, your priorities, your agenda that you believe is right for america. yeah, hillary clinton was mistreated when it came to
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appearances, when it came to wardrobe. you know, petty superficial things that the men don't ever seem to hear much about. but a woman candidate will. >> governor christie hears about his appearance. >> that's because it's been extreme, okay, so it's hard for some people not to comment on it. speaking of hillary clinton, though, i will never forget bill clinton saying about barack obama and his story, his agenda, that it was the biggest fairy tale he had ever seen and he was right, because barack obama was not qualified, he was not prepared, and the manifestation of that today is the problem that we see left and right in our economy. >> you obviously feel very passionate about these issues. why are you not in office anymore? why don't you run for senate? there's a senate seat coming up. >> oh, my goodness, because there are millions and millions of good americans who have the ability and desire to serve and i want to help find those people
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and help propel them into positions of leadership. >> don't you think you could have more of an influence? >> i want to know that you don't need a title, you don't need a position to make a difference. >> obviously the republican party is going through a debate right now about where its soul is. i saw an article over the weekend, senator john mccain, your friend and former running mate, talking about how some people were urging him to run for president again in 2016. doesn't sound like he's necessarily interested in it, but he is talking about how the government shutdown in his view was a mistake and how there are some people who think he could help right the ship. if it weren't for your relationship with him, i can't help but think that you would -- that he personifies things that you don't like. >> well, senator mccain and i have never been shy about expressing the fact that we agree to disagree on some
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issues. but i have respect for his service not only to our country in the military but in the senate, and i will never bad-mouth senator mccain. i have no desire to, i have no -- there's no need for me to do so. >> i don't want you to. i admire your loyalty to him. i guess i'm just saying the divide right now between the establishment republicans who want to compromise, who want to do deals, whether it's immigration reform, whether it's the budget, john mccain is hated by a lot of the people who love you. >> well, i want the republican party, kind of that leadership of the machine of the party, to really stiffen its spine and not be squishy on some of these issues because it's a time in america where we're in a path towards bankruptcy. we can't afford to be squishy on issues unless common sense conservatives get together and vote in leaders who understand how important it is to defend our republic and protect the
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constitution. >> leaders like ted cruz? >> i absolutely am on team ted cruz and senator mike lee, rand paul, these guys who are merely fulfilling their campaign promises. people had to focus on what obama care really entailed because ted cruz had the guts to stand up on the senate floor and say look, this is bad for our country. this will bankrupt our country. it's taking over one-sixth of our economy and stripping our freedoms. i'm thankful that he did what he did and i disagree with those who say that it was a mistake for our senators to stand up and fight for america, again, just fulfilling their campaign promises. >> mitch mcconnell has said no more government shutdowns. he didn't think it was a smart idea. if you were advising senate republicans, would you encourage them -- >> what shutdown? what shutdown? >> partial shutdown. >> it was a 17-day slim-down. 16-day slim-down of about 17% of the government. we need to rein in government.
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when is the time finally for people to open their eyes and for the media to open its eyes, what is the time and the magic number when it comes to debt, when it comes to this trajectory of government growth, for people to say we do need to start slimming this thing down. >> you obviously feel very passionate about the national debt. the other day you gave a speech in which you compared it to slavery. >> yes. that's not a racist thing to do, by the way, which i know somebody's going to claim it is. >> don't you ever fear that by using hyperbole like that, obviously you don't literally mean it's like slavery which cost millions of people their lives and there was rape and torture. you are using it as a metaphor. but don't you ever worry that by using that kind of language, you risk obscuring the point you're trying to make? >> there is another definition of slavery and that is being beholden to some kind of master that is not of your choosing. yes, the national debt will be
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like slavery when the note comes due. >> so you're not -- i'm taking that as a no, you're not concerned about the language? >> i'm not one to be politically correct, evidently. no, i don't worry about things like that because no matter what i say, no matter what a lot of conservatives say, you know, they will be targeted and distractions will be attempted to be made to take the listener and the viewers' mind off what the point is by pointing out oh, she said the word slavery in a speech and i did say the word slavery because i want to make a point. >> you can understand why african-americans or others might be offended by it, though. >> i can if they choose to misinterpret what it is that i'm saying. again, you know, i'm sure if we open up a dictionary we can prove that with semantics that are various, we can prove that there is a definition of slavery
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that absolutely fits the bill there, when i'm talking about a bankrupt country that will owe somebody something down the line if we don't change things, that we will be shackled. we will be a slave to those whom we owe. >> when we come back, she's always been open about her faith but there's one specific moment in sarah palin's life that stands out. the moment she became born again. she will share that story. and also open up about her daughter bristol's life as a teen mom. all of that's next. life with crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis
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welcome back to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. now we continue with more of our interview with former republican vice presidential nominee sarah palin. as children giddily count down to the holiday season and the stacks of presents that come with it, sarah palin's out to fight back against what she sees as a war on christmas waged by the aclu and atheists. so inspired that she wrote a book about it out today titled "good tidings and great joy, protecting the heart of christmas" and it explores the
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controversial aspects of publicly celebrated christianity. i asked palin about the book and the message it sends to those who do not share her faith. so "good tidings great joy, protecting the heart of christmas" a book you wrote. it's one part love letter to christmas and what the holiday has meant to you and another part a treatise about what you think is going wrong with those declaring war on christmas. >> the scrooges declaring war on christmas. yes. >> how is there a war on christmas? >> you see the aclu letters that get sent around to all the school districts now warning them you better not acknowledge that jesus is the reason for the season and heaven forbid you sing a song about bethlehem or silent night because somebody may take offense. >> about one in five americans does not identify as a christian. can you understand why somebody who is not a self-identified christian would feel
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uncomfortable with demonstration of something from the bible, from the new testament, coming from the government, coming from a public school, because to them that might feel like their government is picking a religion and it's not theirs. >> well, there are things that we can do about that to i guess lessen that offense. we can do that in our personal lives. for instance, in my family, we have the menorrah out through december on our kitchen table. i want to teach my children about the jewish faith. >> what do you make of pope francis? what do you think of him? >> i'm kind of trying to follow what his agenda is. i'm surprised he came out with a couple of things in the media but then again, i'm not one to trust the media's interpretation of somebody's message. but having read through media outlets that he's had some statements that to me sound kind of liberal, has taken me aback. it's kind of surprised me.
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but there again, unless i really dig deep into what his messaging is and do my own homework, i'm not going to just trust what i hear in the media. >> i said earlier i was surprised by your devotion of faith, how much you talked about it in the book, just because politicians don't talk about it very often. i still think of you as a politician. if you'll forgive me. >> that hurts. >> what church do you go to? what is your belief system? >> i go to a bible believing church up there in wasilla that's nondenominational. >> are you born again? >> yeah. yeah. i mean, when i was a young girl, i remember looking around the beauty of alaska, remember one summer at a summer camp, looking around at our mountain ranges and the beautiful lakes and this creation, and knowing even as a kid wow, there is something greater than self and whomever
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it is that created this certainly must know better than i how to direct my life. i put my life in god's hands at that time. >> this was a moment, an actual -- >> yeah, it was an actual moment. >> how old were you? >> i was about 12. yeah. telling -- i mean, i remember calling out to god and saying i believe you, because i see god in my surroundings up there in alaska. really, it's hard to escape it. and realizing again, that my creator would have purpose for me because there's purpose in everything. then just through these years of progression towards stronger and stronger faith, that is what i have had to thankfully go back to so often. i find myself on my knees calling out to god for assistance, for help, for
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encouragement. >> what kinds of things have you been through that you've needed god for? >> well, abo fivut and a half years ago whe i was 12 weeks pregnant and doctor said your child will be born with down syndrome, that was a moment of calling out to god saying really, really, god? you promised in your word in the bible that you will never give us something that we can't handle and i don't think that i'm equipped to handle this. it took me many months to come around to the idea of yeah, he isn't going to give me something that i can't handle, meaning i'll be able to handle this. >> how is the beautiful little boy? >> he's the most precious perfect little rowdy boy. he's like any other little 5-year-old. he's amazing. he's absolutely amazing. wouldn't trade anything about him for the world. and five and a half years ago, i don't know if i could have said that. when i first heard what was coming, i didn't know but today, no, i wouldn't change anything
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about our boy. >> you write in the book very candidly about when bristol came to you. >> yeah. at first blush, the impulse was what, you're pregnant, well, that's not supposed to happen for one and two, so when are you going to get married and take responsibility and raise your new family here, bristol and the guy, the other guy, and todd is the one who held back and said no, no, no, not so fast. we didn't agree right off the bat on how things we thought should shake out for our daughter and our grandson, but time has absolutely proven todd right on that one. >> you had some not super flattering comments to make about levi the other day. has this opened your eyes as to what single mothers go through in this country? >> absolutely. >> because a lot of them obviously don't have the family that -- >> it's a big network family, right. >> and money and -- >> well, the comment that i made
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about tripp's father was deadbeat dads, and i'm so tired of deadbeats dads being put on a pedestal but yes, again, a circumstance like that less than ideal has taught our family to keep eyes and hearts and minds open to what other people go through. bristol's a great example of yes, she appreciates so much the network of support that she has, but here she goes to school, she works, she's raisinghis child on her own, but it is, jake, it is such a tough life. you know, it maybe sounds cliche but it's so true, it's not something to strive for, that single motherhood, because like bristol has always said, that baby isn't just some accessory on your hip, a cute little thing to be carrying around. your life has changed now. you're no longer living for yourself and at such a young age, it's hard to be ready for that.
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>> our thanks to former governor palin. next, we return live to the philippines, where rescue workers are still trying to get to some of the hardest hit areas as aid pours in. is it getting to the people who need it the most? plus, she has not said she's running yet, but if hillary clinton does decide to pull the trigger in 2016, could her biggest threat come from within her own party? we'll talk about that with our political panel. how are things with the new guy? all we do is go out to dinner. that's it? i mean, he picks up the tab every time, which is great...what? he's using you. he probably has a citi thankyou card and gets 2x the points at restaurants. so he's just racking up points with me. some people... ugh! no, i've got it. the citi thankyou preferred card. now rn 2x the points on dining out d entertainment, with no annual apply, go to see, i knew testosterone could affect sex drive,
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welcome back to "the lead." we will go back to our world lead because the story in the philippines is so horrific. a frantic search for survivors under the rubble, desperate pleas for food and water and very literally, the smell of death hanging in the air. that's the situation right now in the philippines, where the storm has long passed but a bitter humanitarian crisis is now spiraling out of control. the united nations estimates that 800,000 people have been displaced by the destruction. i'm joined now on the phone by
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an oxfam emergency team member on the ground near the northernmost tip of the cebu mainland. thanks for joining us and making time to speak to us in the middle of this horrific situation. the government is calling this a national state of calamity. give us a state from on the ground where you are of the devastation that you're witnessing. >> yeah. over in northern cebu it's not as bad as you see in tacloban but yeah, definitely the devastation is there. power lines are down and so in the process they also have no water because their water is very much dependent on electricity. there are a lot of debris but as of yesterday, the roads have been cleared off so workers can already have access to these
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areas but problems remain, there is a shortage of food and water and sanitation needs. so we are trying to address that. >> we're hearing that there's no electricity in the area where you are and no water. what are you doing for supplies? >> actually, we are doing assessments, and we head back to the city because we also have to do some reports so we need electricity to do that. what we do is we go in the morning really early, then we go right back up, head back to cebu city, yeah, so that we are able to cope with the situation. >> we're hearing from the government of the philippines that more than two million people are in need of food aid. what are people doing? how are they surviving? >> yeah. at the moment in northern cebu, there are a lot of
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municipalities down in the south that were not affected at all and they have the ability to help, so they are bringing food aid to the northern municipalities and the provincial government is helping as well. it has only been five days. the supplies will be coming in in the next few days. >> one of the other big needs there are medical supplies. how many people are you seeing in need of attention, how do you as an aid worker, how do you cope with the next threats, the threats of disease? >> yeah. actually, yesterday we went back to do the technical assessments. we looked at their water system. we're really trying to address that with, as i said, there is no electricity and they have no water. so we're looking to how we can really help in that aspect, so yeah, that's what we did.
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we also visited the hospital there in the area and were surprised to learn that even they have no water. it's like -- it's really a situation that needed to be addressed real soon. >> thanks. the very best to you in this very difficult situation. god bless the work you do. anna corn is in cebu. thanks for being here. the united nations says 800,000 people have been run out of their homes by this storm. what are you witnessing on the ground? >> reporter: we flew with the military yesterday into an eastern province, basically the first town hit by super typhoon haiyan. as we flew over, absolutely everything was flattened. every single structure had its roof blown off. huge massive palm trees around the airfield that we flew into
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were snapped, every single one of them, which gives you an idea of the force of this storm. we were on the ground for 20 minutes delivering aid and the locals that had gathered at the air base desperate for those basic necessities, basically said they were all homeless. they had all lost their homes. they were staying in erected shelters from what they managed to salvage from their properties. so these people are in desperate need of those basic necessities, food, fresh water, medical supplies. they have been going without them now for many, many days. and there really is a sense of desperation, jake, on the ground. the problem of course is logistics, getting that aid to those very remote places. as we know, the philippines is made up -- it's an archapelago, made up of thousands of islands. the only way to get on the ground is by air or boat. boat is extremely slow. these people need aid right now. e cebu airfield are flying in
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and out delivering aid drops. helicopters as well. but this is a very, very slow process and for the people on the ground, it really is a race against time. >> thank you so much. still to come, a former president who tried but failed to pass health care reform offering some healthy vice to the one who tried and succeeded. bill clinton's tough medicine coming up next. customer erin swenson ordered shoes from us online but they didn't fit. customer's not happy, i'm not happy. sales go down, i'm not happy. merch comes back, i'm not happy. use ups. they make returns easy. unhappy customer becomes happy customer. then, repeat customer. easy returns, i'm happy. repeat customers, i'm happy. sales go up, i'm happy. i ordered another pair. i'm happy. (both) i'm happy. i'm happy. happy. happy. happy. happy. happy happy. i love logistics.
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welcome back to "the lead." more politics now. the criticism of obama care is coming from all sides, even from the president's own quote unquote, secretary of explaining stuff. former president bill clinton. clinton said when it comes to people who want to hold on to their pre-obama care health care plans, quote, let them keep what they've got. >> so i personally believe even if it takes a change to the law, the president should honor the commitment the federal government made to those people and let them keep what they've got. >> the president should honor the commitment made to those people. let's bring in our panel. editor for the new republic,
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frank fort. dana bash and senior editor at large for breitbart news, joe pollack. wow, that's not helpful. the white house said today they agreed with president clinton and that's why they're attempting these fixes although the fixes really have nothing to do with the president's talking which would really be a major change. what are you hearing from democrats on the hill? >> what's fascinating is we have a senior congressional democratic source told me they set a deadline for friday because house republicans have legislation they will vote on friday to effectively let people keep the plans. it's a pretty sweeping legislation. >> even junk plans? even the plans that actually are -- >> yeah. yes. because it's up to people to decide and it shouldn't be the government and regulations and so forth. but when it comes to politics, i'm told that if the white house doesn't come up with an alternative by friday, you will have a lot of democrats in the house jumping ship, even though they don't like the idea because again, it is pretty sweeping. then in the senate i just interviewed mary landrieu, a
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democrat up for re-election next year. she's got her own much more narrow bill and also has five democratic senators on board. all of them are saying you see? bill clinton is saying it. bill clinton has given democrats who are already feeling the pressure from their constituents cover. >> absolutely. frank, there's a new quinnipiac poll out just moments ago saying that only 19% of american voters think that the quality of care they and their families receive will improve next year. 43% say it will get worse. 33% say unaffected. that's a pretty strong number indicating the nation has lost faith in obama care. >> not great numbers. you could certainly use the explainer in chief weighing in on behalf of obama care. in fact, the rest of that interview, clinton did a great job of explaining -- >> and defending. >> -- and defending the plan. but this intervention is particularly unhelpful because he makes it sound like there's an easy fix for this very small group of people but very poignantly, have had a great
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deal of uncertainty injected into their lives because their plans have been canceled or -- so there's no -- there's really no easy fix for this. i think clinton by simplifying things as he did creates a very untenable situation for the obama administration. >> it's very helpful if you're hillary clinton thinking of running for president in 2016. >> you don't really think that's what this is about. >> it's possible. he was suggesting she could be a more pragmatic, more centrist, more experienced policy maker who would not go to the extremes that obama had gone to and who would work with republicans. >> you think that's what he was doing? >> he has nothing to gain by continuing to defend obama. obama has essentially got no more elections to run. there's nothing clinton needs from him anymore. what he's trying to do i think in part is pave the way for hillary to run on a more pragmatic type of platform. >> know what i heard a lot about today from republicans are these ads from a group in colorado pushing obama care. here's one. let's hope he's as easy to get
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as this birth control which you can now, thanks obama care. you can't see their faces for some strange reason. in any case, the point is that there's these ads aimed at younger people. maybe they're very effective. hey, girl, you're excited about -- it's ryan gosling, of course. the point is it's about selling obama care to young people as a way to get birth control so they can have promiscuous sex with people they barely met or ryan gosling poster. >> it works if you're selling the birth control aspect. it doesn't really work if you say hey girl, he's got syphilis. no problem, it's covered under obama care. pre-existing conditions. you can still get insurance. >> this is the same company that did the bro ads a few weeks ago. >> you're trying to sell sex. it doesn't work if you do it the reverse way where a guy is looking at a girl and maybe i shouldn't, maybe i should but she's probably on birth control because she's covered by obama care. that would be creepy. >> i just talked to mary landrieu and in one sentence she was saying we have to fix this, but she would not even take a
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breath before she finished that sentence by saying but obama care, but this law is a really good thing. so that really is -- one of bill clinton's confidants said to me earlier bill clinton was sort of injecting a mend it, don't end it kind of idea like he did for affirmative action but it's a very tough thing for democrats. >> always curious to know what bill clinton is thinking when it seems like he deliberately weighs in in a way like this that causes all sorts of trouble for obama, who perhaps not coincidentally last week in the double down book was last seen griping about bill clinton. >> saying he can only take him in doses. thank you all so much. the viral video already had a fisher price see 'n say quality to it. what does the fox say? it's coming to a children's book shelf near you. could a 3d imax movie be far behind? the day we rescued riley was a truly amazing day.
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welcome back to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. time for the money lead. soon you'll have even fewer choices to fly. the federal government today cleared the way for the creation of the merger of american airlines and us airways. the justice department approved the plan provided the airlines take steps designed to help their low cost competitors. the new merged american airlines will offer close to 7,000 flights each day to over 300 destinations in 56 countries. now it's time for the pop culture lead. the viral video so big the internet alone is not enough. ♪ >> what does the fox say? that's the fox. they are a pair of comedian
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brothers whose video has gotten more than 200 million views on youtube. the video has spawned a children's book. the words and fun in the song are perfect for reading aloud so you can hear your kids make high-pitched sounds over and over again and still call it reading. what does the fox say should be out by christmas. that's it for "the lead." i'm jake tapper. i turn you over to wolf blitzer next door in "the situation room." happening now, a new warning that time may be running out for the typhoon survivors if they don't get food and supplies very soon. cnn is live in the disaster zone and the first news organization to visit ground zero of the storm. plus, bill clinton puts more pressure on the president over obama care, urging him to keep his promise to the american people. this hour, the fallout. and the white house responds. and surprising new medical guidelines on cholesterol levels. dr. sanjay gupta explains what