tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN November 16, 2013 1:00am-2:01am PST
real problem is going to be. >> ann romney on politics, family and her new cookbook. you can hear her monday morning on cnn's "new day" beginning at 6:00. she sits down with me right here monday night 9:00 eastern. that's all for us tonight. anderson cooper starts right now. good evening. i'm anderson cooper reporting tonight live from manila. thanks for joining us on this edition of "ac 360." this is day eight since supertyphoon haiyan hit this region and has devastated much of the philippines in the south. a lot of coastal communities. you have been witnessing what we have been seeing over the last several days. it's easy to think that by day eight with all the aid that's coming with the increasing improvements and the way it's being distributed it's easy to think that the worst is over. but for many people on the ground, the nightmare continues. there is still a lack of food, still a lack water and people
are dying. people are still dying, people will die who don't need to die. they're going to die of things that if they had antibiotics they couldizely be cured of. we have an example of that this evening. you may have seen this picture. it's been seen around the world. it's really stunned a lot of people. a woman in what has remains of a hospital in tacloban who has no other option but to try to pump air into her husband's body to keep him alive. she's manually been pumping air into his lungs to keep him alive. he essentially has a broken leg. but an infection has set in because he wasn't seen by doctors because there weren't doctors who could see him. there weren't surgeons who could operate on him. there weren't antibiotics that could actually stop the infection. so antibiotics that would cost a few cents were not available. and we're not talking about the first day after the storm or the second day, we're talking the third and the fourth and the fifth and the sixth day ivan
watson is joining us from tacloban with an update on what has happened to this man. also joined by nick payton walsh here in manila. ivan, you were just at the hospital. this picture has captivated, been in newspapers, seen on television around the world. you have a update now on what's happening. what's going on? >> reporter: anderson, i'm very sad to report that the man photographed there, 27-year-old richard pulga who had an open fracture of his right leg basically his two shin bones, passed away on friday, doctors tell me. they operated on him. he was terribly infected. he had a terrible infection of his leg. he had not, they said, gotten first aid for at least three days, and then he was bandaged. and then this infection set in. and they had no choice but to finally operate on friday. but they lacked one critical
critical element that they say could have saved his life. they didn't have blood supplies for a transfusion and could not save him as they operated on him. the doctors tell me that if they had blood and they asked for it and it is certainly in stock in other cities and towns around the philippines, they could have saved this man's life whose initial injury was a broken leg. anderson? >> i mean, let's just pause an think about that for a moment. a man who had a broken leg is now dead because there wasn't blood supplies, and he had gotten an infection that there weren't antibiotics to treat. so when people hear when the government has talked about we're focusing on the living, we're focusing on saving the living, simple things like blood, like antibiotics have not been getting out fast enough. and time -- i i mean, you can say, well, it's difficult. we're facing a lot of difficulties. we all understand that.
it's not an easy situation. the infrastructure is bad even in the best of times. but that man should not have died. there was no reason for that man to have died of essentially a broken leg. as you see on the ground, ivan, in tacloban, how are the efforts going to get the eight outside that's at the airport to other places? the fact that the clinic in tacloban at the airport days ago didn't have food and water and basic supplies, enough supplies according to doctors they talked to there, that's right at the airport. so this hospital is in town, they didn't have blood, is just -- is inexplicable and heart-breaking. how are things now today? >> reporter: well, at this one hospital which was destroyed, its operating rooms were destroyed, it's a private hospital the divine word hospital. it was a surgical team that came in from the department of health from another town.
and they've come in and basically taken it over to try to do some of these very urgent operations. they say they've done 17 in the last 36 hours giving us a snapshot here. some of those operations are cesareans, for example. i saw tiny babies who had just been born. disturbingly, some of the other operations they've carried out, at least six in the last 24 hours are amputations. these are people who have had also wounds to their limbs, to their legs, to their arms that, have gone untreated for the better part of a week, that have gotten infected, and then the doctors have no choice but to basically use a method dating back to the civil war, chop the limb off. and we saw a number of men in there with amputations above the knee, below the shoulder. and these are some of the measures that doctors at this facility are having to take
because people have gone untreated a week after the typhoon. anderson. >> and if there were facilities to get people on airplanes, to get them to other facilities lives could have been saved. nick you were in tacloban where lots of bodies have been collected, some still not collected but being gathered in the last few days. >> you've seen the government come in there. change on the streets. talking about a lack of communication. what we saw one of the key things, the smell is still on the streets as you drive through. they've put them together in this morgue. that's the beginning to try to get that process. >> let's take a look. >> reporter: this is where it
ends for so many. without ceremony or even their name spoken softly. the corpses that have littered tacloban as so much of the city leaves come to rest here. until parts of the horror of how they must have died. but they leave many questions, too, among the overpowering smell of looming disease. it's a cold but necessary process, the accounting of the dead that happens here. and the condition they arrive in after days in the open and the impact of flood waters, gruesome, sometimes unrecognizable. but for the relatives who come here in search of their loved ones, it's here that they hear the toughest answers. some endure the search for mothers or brothers but just find more not knowing. the remarkable thing, though, the people who arrive, one man we spoke to found his father's
remains in the corpses that are identified but hadn't actually found out where his mother was and believed it was in that group. >> that's what people don't understand unless you're seen the condition of people who have downed in a violent way, who have been hit by debris, left outside for days and days, a mother can be looking at their child and not recognize their own child because of what happens to a body when it's been out like this. imagine the heart break of that opening up body bags searching for your child and looking at all these remains and not being able to even identify your loved one. >> there's the emotion at heart break everyone goes through. the most sensitive, horrifying moment of formal i.d.s, the government's ability to provide dignity in that important moment and simple public health issue, too. people are going to start getting ill in that town unless
debris is cleared away, unless more fresh water is present. that's the real issue. >> ivan, again the government had talked about prepositioning supplies in the advance of this storm. i know electricity was out, facilities were out at hospitals all throughout tacloban. but it's just stunning to me that this long into it on friday a man can die essentially from a broken leg because of a lack of supplies. and just the prioritizing of things the immediate aftermath of this i think is probably something that is going to have to be looked at in calmer times so that the next time -- that's what this is about. not only saving lives now, but the next time this happens, because it will happen again, what can we learn now about what's happening here that's going to change things the next time around. ivan, appreciate your reporting. nick payton walsh as well. we'll take a short break. when we come back we'll talk to somebody from a group i really like a lot, doctors without borders and their staff about the needs on the ground right now.
>> a friend of mine, you know, we became friend back in 2000, 2006 and i've recorded all of my performances in hard rock cafe and he ask for my permission to photo those videos and those are the ones. >> incredible. >> you have a foundation here -- >> yes, it's apfi. we're actually like helping the street kids. but now i'm coming to you to let our fellow men know that i am trying to raise with my group journey, mr. john barack and cia nation trying to raise the kind of money that could afford us to buy 2 million meals to give. >> i heard that journey is going to be donating $350,000 to the world food program. >> yeah, that's the money that could afford at least --
>> that's a huge, huge amount of money that will make a huge difference. when you see the images. when you see what's happening to people in tacloban and cebu and semar, what do you feel? >> no words can say. it saddened me so much i was, i was kind of depressed for a couple of days now because you don't know what to do. you don't know how to help because i'm planning to go there but my people telling me don't go there because it's chaotic. you're the brave one. >> i think sometimes people over play or over blow minor security incidents. for the most part, i think the security is fine there. >> it is? >> yeah, and i think that will take away from rescue efforts if
people feel this is an unsafe place. i would say by in large it's -- >> i guess i will go there as soon as our food is here. >> that would be awesome. >> i think i'm going to go there to give it out. >> it's got to be frustrating as a citizen here to feel like, you know, to know what needs to be done and feel helpless and feel like things are not moving fast enough. >> i know but then i just put in my mind that, you know, just forget about those negativities. i just have -- i just have to do what i can do so i could -- i could be one of those people, you know, who can make a difference. >> the other thing that i'm so impressed by and you grew up very poor here in the philippines. >> yes, yes. >> is the strength of people i've met in tacloban and elsewhere, who, you know, who have nothing and who had nothing before the storm in many ways, except their hearts and their love for their families and whose livelihoods have been wiped out and tin shacks have been destroyed and yet -- and
whose children are dead and they can't find them and yet every day they are sometimes able to smile, and they are able to hold their head up high. the strength of the fillipino people is extraordinary. >> it's the resilience we have. from 400 years ago we've been invaded and having that patience and the courage and the bravery to fight against all odds. >> yeah. >> you have to be a hero to get through each day. >> you don't even have to be a hero. support people, they don't even deserve to have something like this. we haven't seen this storm for decades and it's here and torn a lot of innocent lives and they are fighting. >> yeah. >> they -- >> i think it's awesome you're giving so much back. >> thank you so much. >> please hang on. >> hang on. those are good words. appreciate it. we'll take a short break and
this is one of the few houses that are still standing. pretty solidly build. some of the houses made out of concrete seem to survive the storm, but you just get a sense of the power of the storm. i mean, look, here is a jeep slammed into the house and this truck lifted up from somewhere and put on top of the jeep and the smell of rotting -- the smell of decay is everywhere around here. there is a -- it's a cow, i think a dead cow, and it looks like behind it, there is the
body of a person covered in a green cloth. that was tuesday in tacloban and a body like that, more than likely is still there. there is still a lot of bodies, particularly bodies in debris that have not been collected. that grim task goes on and thankless work for the firefighters and others. i want to bring in damon maloney with doctors without boarders. he's in an organization that we worked with before. they have remarkable experience. in terms of the greatest needs, greatest priorities for you right now, what are they? >> anderson, at the moment i think it's a logistics problem at the moment. we're having trouble with access, electricity, food, water. it's really hard to help people
if we don't have these things. we can't find transport. we can't find drivers. the population is basically leaving the city because it's really difficult to get any of these basic human rights. >> the -- we saw earlier in this broadcast that a man died essentially of a broken leg, infection spread of the broken leg. he died after being operated on. his wife was in a hospital downtown manually pumping air into his lungs because there was no one else, no nurses to give a hand. can people get care? because i saw a clinic at the tacloban airport but they seemed overwhelmed two days ago. >> yeah, exactly. i think at the moment it's people are starting to get -- the hospitals, the structures standing are getting overwhelmed. people are starting to come with really severe infections and
chronic diseases and things that people just generally get sick from, upper respiratory infections and diarrhea diseases and basically the hardest part again, logistics, there is very little drugs and stuff and hard to get the people here and drugs here at the moment. >> what do you need -- i mean, do you have all the supplies that you need as an organization? >> sorry, anderson, i just lost you. >> yeah, do you have all the supplies that you need as an organization? >> yeah, it actually landed in cebu, which is the next island across last night and coming across tomorrow morning on a barge and then we are going to put up an inflatable hospital with full surgical capacity,
ob/gyn, maternity, children, the whole deal. but this -- just this -- getting things from manila and from europe has been quite difficult and now it's finally on the ground. we got to get it here, and that's quite difficult, as well. >> and even often getting it off the tarmac, you know, in a lot of places on forklifts to lift pallets of food and aid and these things that people take for granted cost people's lives. i appreciate damon, all the work you're doing as i do doctors without borders. people can go to our website to find out more information. we'll continue to check in with you in the days ahead. good luck to you and your folks working on the ground there. we've seen a number of families being reunited. a lot of people looking for their loved ones. americans, fillipino americans in the united states trying to
get in contact with their loved ones here. we've been -- last week or early they are week we were talking with an american family who was very concerned about their brother in the philippines. they hadn't heard from him. they were finally able to be reunited. take a look. >> good job, guys. >> for 7 two hours, the philippines siblings paulette barely slept. >> we assumed the worst. >> assumed the worst because while they were safe in san key yeah go, his broth near tacloban. they said not to worry, they were going to ride out the storm in their house. as the storm devastated the city, all communication left and their imaginations got the better of them.
>> it was a really difficult time just kind of thinking what is happening? we tried calling. we tried texting. we tried e-mailing, and there was no response. so it was really difficult. it was a difficult time for us just not knowing and just thinking the worst things. >> jim was alive, but shaken. he watched from the second story of his house as the water rose quickly. >> now we're at riverfront residence. >> his travel agency on the ground floor was destroyed. over four days with barely any food or water, he and his family made their way to the tacloban airport and got on a flight to manila. he eventually got word to a relative who relaid the good news to his family in san diego. it wasn't until wednesday night everyone could breathe a sigh of relief. >> jim. >> jim. >> they saw their brother for the first time and make sure everyone was safe. >> how is the family? >> oh, the family is good. >> we heard --
>> julia is here. >> did you get some -- oh, is she awake? let me see her. >> julia. >> julia. >> and jim told them about how he survived the deadly storm surge that flattened tacloban. >> if we didn't have that house, we would have been, you know, flushed away. the water was like 10 feet high. it was like a tsunami. >> although a face-to-face reunion might not happen for weeks, they are doing what they can to help, shipping boxes full of supplies to those who lost everything. >> my brother told us his worst experience there was at nighttime there was no light. so we're trying to get a bunch of glow sticks and flashlights and gathering as many like mosquito nets, just basic survival equipment to go there as soon as possible. >> for jim, anything helps. he'll go back to tacloban determined to rebuild, refusing to give up. it's nice to hear happy stories of reunions. we have another one in the program.
we talked to jackelyn who was very concerned. she was in the united states and very concerned about her dad and mom who were here in tacloban. she hadn't been able to get in touch with them. she was concerned about the medical issues they have. we'll tell you what has happened on that story when we come back and also, in the "360 exclusive" interviewing the mayor of toronto's brother, doug, an exclusive interview talking about the bizarreness going on with his brother. that will be ahead just after this. [ male announcer ] 'tis the season of more. more shopping. more dining out. and along with it, more identity theft. by the time this holiday season is over, more than a million identities may be stolen.
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hey, welcome back. it is saturday morning here in manila in the philippines, day eight of the diaster and we'll have a lot more what is going on in the ground throughout this hour, but i do want to toss it over to our bill weere who has a remarkable interview with the toronto's admittedly crack smoking mayor's brother. >> proud to be part of your team. i always dreamt of reporting for cnn, never thought it would be this. a surreal melt down on the fourth largest city on the continent and tonight we have a "360" exclusive with the brother of ford. unprecedented vote from the city counsel to take away some of his
power, even as mayor ford continued to say he's not going anywhere. from his admission he smoked crack in a drunken stupor to the lewd remarks made on live television, ford's brother, counselor doug ford is the most fervent defender and i talked to him a short time ago. you said today you think your brother should take a leave of absence. why? >> well, what i mentioned, bill, is that i believe rob should take a couple weeks off. let things cool down a bit, but we're going to be moving him forward and rob wants to stay focused at the job at hand here. >> so he's not going to take that advice? >> no, he wants to stay here, continue working, returning calls and dealing with city issues.
>> there is so much speculation about your brother, not just there in toronto from around the world, people just fascinated by this story that he has a real problem. your sister and your mother have both come out and say they don't think he has an addiction problem with alcohol or drugs. what do you think? >> well, he definitely doesn't have a drug problem. as rob has admitted. he feels he's been drinking too much. i want to be very clear here. rob doesn't come to work and drink and he doesn't drink every single day. but he does admit that he has excess of drinking at times and he's getting the medical support from a team of doctors and he's also gone on a pretty steady diet and exercise program. so we're confident that he's going to move forward. >> but no one has ever seen anything like we witnessed come out of your brother in the last week, such erratic behavior. >> that's right. >> so much impulse, control
problems, obviously. can you not see why people are worried about him, embarrassed about this whole thing? >> yeah, that was unacceptable and it was not appropriate, whatsoever, what he said. he's apologized and got to make sure that never happens again, and he -- i'm sure he'll move forward and make as you were he doesn't use that language. >> at one point, i'm just so curious about the dynamic between you and your brother. your his fiercest defender but he made you look like a fool when you defended him with the crack smoking allegations and going after the police commissioner and he's admitting that yes, he had smoked crack. has there ever been a moment where you two have come to blows and you tried to get him straighten out? >> you know, bill, i didn't realize that until he announced it that day and again, i believe
in life when a family member has an issue, you don't throw them underneath a bus. you support them, deal with the issue, move forward and that's what we're going to do. it's unprecedented. politicians would try to take the powers off the mayor, number one morally and legally, they have over stepped their bounds in our opinion legally they can't do that. so we'll be challenging these folks and not only the courts but the courts of public opinion. >> that's a long time until the next election and now you have a mayor and title owner. he can't manage the city during emergency. he can't make key appointments. >> yes, he can. he can -- let's stop there for a second. he still sits as a member of the emergency team if anything happens. really, today was symbolic. i feel it doesn't have too much teeth.
we don't have the same powers as the u.s. mayors. we don't have a strong mayor system. i prefer a strong mayor system. what we have is the mayor gets one vote so nothing moves without 45 counselors that approve it. going into the next election if rob, as we say, can stay on the rails and continue moving forward and have a healthy lifestyle, then i'll -- as sure as i'm sitting here now, it will be one heck of an election. >> what about these other allegations, cocaine, oxycontin, the abuse of language towards staffers and taxi drivers and sounds like from what we hear from reporter there is that there are other shoes to drop. none of those things have been proven, but it all leads to a picture of a man, it seems ill fitted to lead. >> well, you know, again, bill, that's going to be up to the people to decide, not the
politicians, not the media but the people. again, that's why we have elections. >> if your brother had gone away for a few weeks, a month, rehab, sought some help, came back, this wouldn't be an issue. he probably would win the next election by a land slide. why is there such a resistance in your family for him to talk to somebody, people that care about him just to make sure he doesn't have a substance problem? well, you know, something, again, bill, i think we have a good team of health care professionals dealing with that right now, and again, i want to emphasize something, bill, that rob is not a crack user. he doesn't drink every single night. he's admitted to his faults, and i just wish other politicians would come clean like rob ford has. >> you don't have to be a regular crack user to look at that and say boy, this is a -- this -- let's cast light on judgment issues, right?
like you say, it's fair enough people have friday night after a long week want to blow off steam and knock back a few scotches, but most people i know don't go smoke some crack. that must worry you. >> yeah, no, i agree. yeah, no, you know something, bill? we keep, you know, whipping the horse here and keep talking about it. again, he's getting support and we're going to move forward on this and he has to change his lifestyle, which he's doing. >> let me ask you about this tv show. i mean, you're encouraging him to take some time off. do you think it's a good idea for you guys to sign a tv show contract right around now? >> well, let me -- well, let me just confirm, we didn't sign any contract. we're doing, for now, one off. we had one of the most popular talk shows in the entire country every sunday, and we have a very
bias media up here, bill. i think cnn has been very fair and some other international media, but this didn't start with the media last week, bill. this started three years ago when rob ford was elected for mayor. rob ford, i want to remind you and the listers, rob ford doesn't represent the establishment and elites of the city. he represents the front line blue color workers of this city and there are more blue color workers than the establishment and elites in the city. >> counselor doug ford, appreciate you spending time with us tonight and good luck and hope your brother gets well. you can say a lot of things about the ford boys, anderson, but they are certainly loyal to each other. amazing stuff. >> yeah, it's interesting how people don't consider -- or some people don't consider alcohol a drug, that drug use is one thing, he's not a drug addict
but somebody is bing drinking where alcohol is clearly interfering with his day to day life. the fact this is a story that's been going on and on and on. those are all criteria from what i understand, i'm not dr. drew, but from what i understand, alcoholism and let's hope this person is getting the help they need. bizarre. no doubt this isn't the last. bill, great to have you on the program and cnn and we'll take a short break. when we come back, more here in the philippines, a reunion, an american woman who was very concerned about her parents, her mom and her father living here, you'll find out what has happened to them, ahead . i'm beth...
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loved ones they are alive. jackelyn we talked to last friday was the first time and throughout the week, she was concerned about her parents who live in tacloban, if she had heard from them on friday but wasn't sure on their status. charles, we ran into them at the airport in tacloban and i talked to him here in manila last night. charles, you had just moved there to tacloban. when the storm hit, where were you? explain what happened. >> well, we was in the house around about 4:00 in the morning. the rain started. it was raining, raining very
hard and all of a sudden, just the wind started blowing and just started -- just tearing the place apart. the upper floor have two levels in my house. >> were you on the top floor or bottom? >> no, we was thinking about moving to the top floor but instead of moving to the top, we stayed to the bottom which was a good idea because if we went to the top, we would be dead. >> the top got damaged? >> it really got damaged. >> from the wind? >> from the wind and some rain. >> did you have water coming until the house or were you in a high part of tacloban? >> no, we didn't have water coming into the lower level. just the rain coming in the top floor. >> thank goodness you were in a spot where the storm surge didn't come. if you were on the ground floor that would be an issue, as well. we were talking to your daughter, she was concerned about you and your wife. explain once the storm was done, i understand you were trapped inside your home. >> yes, we was there inside our house for three days. >> how were you trapped? >> we couldn't get out. the roads, there was trees and fell tone poles and wiring, electrical wiring on top of the
houses all along the way. >> were you able to get out the front door? >> yes, i could get outside the house. i could get outside but we could not leave the place. >> what was it like for days when you saw what was happening in your neighborhood? >> we was thinking about how to survive, where to go. >> did you have enough food? did you have enough water? >> we was limited with the food. we were limited with the water because we had just come back to the philippines on the 2nd and we had not enough time to go out and buy anything. >> so you hadn't really done shopping -- >> no, no shopping or anything like that. >> your daughter jackelyn we've been talking to, she has not actually seen you. she's watching tonight. what do you want to say to her?
>> thank you guys, love you very much. >> it was strange because we've been thinking about you and concerned about you because we've been talking to your daughter obviously. i actually saw you at the airport in tacloban, i guess, was that yesterday? >> yesterday. >> i didn't know, i had never seen a picture of you so i didn't know who you were. i know you went up to our producer and asked her for -- how you get out and i think she took you to where the u.s. military was. >> first, i came up and i kind of tap you on the shoulder and said mr. cooper, can you tell me where the people from the embassy and you said, they somewhere inside. so by that time, kerry, she -- >> she came over. >> yeah. >> she works for us but she didn't know who you were, either, but i'm glad she helped get you to the people. do you plan to go back? >> eventually. >> you love it? >> yes. >> you're going to rebuild? >> we got to. that's our home there. >> well, i'm glad you and your wife are doing all right. >> okay. thank you. >> thanks for talking. >> uh-huh. >> it's nice, certainly, that they got out okay but again, there is so many still left behind in very desperate needs. we'll talk to reporters ahead on the ground throughout the region and give you a look at my reporter's notebook from this past week. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] what if a small company
we'll put it together in an essay format in a report's notebook and here is mine for this week. when everything else is taken away, broken and batters, soaked raw, stripped bare, you see things, you see people as they really are. >> ma, ma. >> this week in tacloban, semar and cebu, amist the hunger ask thirst, the chaos and confusion, we've seen the best in the fillipino people. their strength, their courage, i can't get it out of my mind. imagine the strength it takes for a mother to search alone for her missing kids. the strength to sleep on the street near the body of your child.
where will you sleep tonight? yeah, in the street. >> we've seen people with every reason to despair, every right to be angry, instead find ways to laugh and to love, to stand up, to move forward, a storm breaks wood and bone, brings hurt and heart break and in the end, the wind, the water, the horror it brings is not the end of the story. with aid and assistance, compassion and care, this place, these people, they will make it through. they have already survived the worst. they are bowed perhaps, tired and traumatized but not broken.
>> nick paton walsh with me here in manila. in terms of what you're seeing on the ground, the coordination, bottlenecks, how are things? >> anderson, i think you always expect a level of chaos and disorganization after a natural disaster. for a country that experiences so many typhoons, you would think they would be better prepared. you know, this is the staging ground for this massive relief operation and for the first five days, there were perhaps three
c-130 airplanes getting aid out. it's a different airport now that the international community is on the ground. there is planes, plenty of aid coming in and hope that very soon it will trickle through the system and get to the people who so desperately need it. the feeling is if the fillipino government knew the scale of the disaster, which apparently they did, they should have asked for help a lot earlier and perhaps a lot less people would be suffering right now. >> no doubt people are still dying, as we saw just yesterday, the man in the hospital dying with essentially a broken leg. ivan watson, what are you seeing in improvement? >> aside from the horrific scene from the hospital, it's striking in the last 36 hours, large crewers and workers came in and clearing the streets of the devastated city, recovering bodies. we've seen pretty dramatic change with roads opening up. the debris being bulldozed away, so there is some progress, some work really being done on the ground as freight boats come in bringing heavy equipment.
of course, there is still a long way to go, and there is misting rain falling moments ago over the city and last night a torrential downpour at points. i'm going to get out of the way and let mark pan over the city, as we wrap up your week of reporting here. this shattered city of tacloban, the monsoon season is coming. tens, hundreds of thousands of people, their homes destroyed or at very least their roofs ripped off completely and these people are going to be exposed in the weeks and months to come to the elements. this is a city at the center of the horrible trama, anderson, that we're looking at right now for the last week and we'll just hope that these fillipinos can carry on with the will to rebuild after this -- the worst disaster they have seen in generations. >> and nick, in terms of what you saw, you just got out of tacloban.
>> ivan is right. improvement in the presence of the government. came out of an airport amazingly transformed since we were there. every hour, every half hour you see an aircraft land. i came out on an enormous c-117. >> bigger than the c-130s and they were hopeful -- >> they should go out two a day. pour massive forklifts and trucks and in their place sit 300, 400 fillipinos trying to get out. you get an idea how bad life is behind and still at the airport in huge numbers trying to get out and americans assisting. >> appreciate your reporting, ivan watson, as well. our coverage is going to continue on this story, no doubt for a long time to come. that's it for us tonight live from manila. we'll be right back.