Skip to main content

tv   CNN Newsroom  CNN  November 25, 2013 11:00am-1:01pm PST

11:00 am
the iranian world in the market. that's it for me this hour. i'll be back 5:00 p.m. eastern in "the situation room." thanks very much for watching. "newsroom" continues right now with brooke baldwin. americans on the move this week, but all this just nasty weather is threatening everyone's travel plans on the roads and in the skies. i'm brooke baldwin. the news is now. live during the show, the long-awaited report on the shooting inside sandy hook is revealed. joel osteen joins me live on what he would tell these grieving families. plus, the man who lives the high life means the man who champions the poor. >> and -- a continue camp strikes back after the beastie boys threaten legal action over the song and this ad. we're on the case.
11:01 am
>> all right, here we go on this monday, great to be with you. i'm brooke baldwin. before we begin, i want to get this news to you. the campus of yale university on lockdown as i speak, as police investigate reports of a gunman. the school telling students who are not already on break, stay away or take shelter. moments ago, we heard from police. they tell us they are interviewing witnesses and the anonymous call came from a phone booth. again, sightings of a possible gunman on or near the campus at yale. updates as we get them. now, this week, lots of you are on the move. thanksgiving travel really could be a nightmare for a lot of you because of this massive storm alreadying claiming ten lives. you see the picture, storm chaser in oklahoma shot this video, see that suv skidding out of control, flipping over.
11:02 am
fortunately, we can show it to you because the driver was wearing a seat belt. that person is okay, but this storm, it is spreeding a dangerous mix of snow and sleet, ice, freezing rain. high winds over a huge part of the country. and what we're about to hear is this thing could get a heck of a lot worse. as a precaution, nearly 500 departing flights were canceled in advance. dallas-ft. worth international airport this morning, just to cut down on the number of stranded travelers. >> kind of a bummer. i mean, of all states, texas, the weather is just insane. >> this is not texas weather, man. this is alaska or idaho. >> chad myers, we were talking texas, but talk to me about this northeast corridor, because that looks like it could be messy. >> it's starting out that way. it's going to start out as a rain event down across the deep south right through here. but the problem is, it has been very cold the past couple of days, with that cold air sinking
11:03 am
all the way down to the appalachian mountains. you put rain on top of that cold air and you have problems. 35 degrees alt 5,000 feet. 31 degrees where you live. all the way through here, pittsburgh, wheeling, to columbus, into tennessee, lexington, kentucky, this is the danger zone for ice. this is wet. this is snow. so it's all a matter of where you are and your timing. and your timing if you're driving i-70, i-80, the turnpike, 64, all of these roads east-west roads, are going to begin something. you're going to start at snow, get to ice, and eventually rain. going the other way, rain to ice to snow. there will be places like pittsburgh that will have ice on the bottom and snow on top, so you can't even see the ice when you get there. that's what this storm is going to make. now, i'm talking about rain for new york city. and a lot of it. a couple inches. but 35, 40, 50 degrees. the issue is not going to be drivingbbb problems, although driving in new york city in the
11:04 am
rain is never a piece of cake. flying when the winds are going to be 40 miles per hour, is going to be really slow. although wet, windy is going to be the problem. half the planes aren't going to take off on time, if not more than that. >> have fun. take your time, take your time. a big story this week as so many people are heading out. thank you so much, sir. speaking of travel, this is just super cool. cnn made the world's busiest airport atlanta-hartsfield jackson our destination. we sent in more than three dozen journalists to atlanta, to the airport, documented their journey. after months and months of research. so if you ever wanted to see sort of the veil at an airport lifted, you have to check this out. it's now this, just in today, some stunning new fallout from the rape of a 16-year-old girl by two high school football players in steubenville, ohio. so now, this grand jury has
11:05 am
indicted four more people in connection with the case, including the school superintendent. ohio attorney general announced today two other educators and an assistant football coach were also indicted. superintendent michael mcveigh is the only one to be charged with felonies. tampering with evidence and obstructing justice. >> i hope this does send a strong message. you know, people need to cooperate with investigations. they need not to hide evidence. and we hope that this frankly brings an end to this. >> six people in total have been charged in connection with this case in steubenville after two students were convicted of rape back in march. this small ohio town, it was 31st 31st into the spotlight after photos like this one and videos of a teenage girl being carried by her hands and feet surfaced
11:06 am
on social media. let's get some perspective and context with jean casarez, our legal correspondent, live in steubenville. first and foremost, put this in perspective for me and tell me how significant these indictments are today. >> i think this is extremely significant. especially the superintendent of schools. you know, we heard from the attorney general's office that he went to work today, just seemingly as a normal day, to head up the school district, and now he has learned he's been indicted, facing seven years in prison, and here are the charges. tampering with evidence, obstruction of justice, two counts. obstructing an official proceeding, and falsification. but there are a couple other interesting points with the people who are indicted. first of all, a former assistant football coach to the football team of steubenville high school, he is charged with allowing underaged drinking and contributing to the delink wnsy of a minor. the attorney general's office tells me that one of the parties that was held that night in
11:07 am
august of 2012, when we now know a young woman was raped, it was held at his parents' home. high lived there, saw what may have been going on, and did not report it, allowed it to happen. there's one charge. another interesting charge would be the principal of an elementary school here. she failed to report -- there is mandatory reporting when as an administrator or as a teacher, you know or believe that child abuse occurred. and it doesn't have to occur at the school, just that you have knowledge of it. well, i learned through the attorney general's office that they were investigating two rapes. one, an alleged rape. separate individual. the rape that we now know, and the april 2012 date she failed to report allegedly, involved the other rape of another individual never prosecuted. >> are we talking a, possibe prison time for all of the above, and b, might there be
11:08 am
more diempts to come down? >> the superintendent is the most serious. seven years in prison is what he faces. the others are charges with misdemeanors that could be fines and jail terms, so potentially, yes. >> jean, thank you so much. coming up next, one lived the life of luxury while the other is an outspoken champion of the poor. today, vladimir putin comes face-to-face with the pope. stunning pictures. we'll tell you that story, take you there live. plus, three young women scored huge in hollywood this weekend. and each in her own way is impacting pop culture. that's coming up. [ female announcer ] what if the next big thing, isn't a thing at all?
11:09 am
it's lots of things. all waking up. connecting to the global phenomenon we call the internet of everything. ♪ it's going to be amazing. and exciting. and maybe, most remarkably, not that far away. we're going to wake the world up.
11:10 am
and watch, with eyes wide, as it gets to work. cisco. tomorrow starts here. ♪ there'll be the usual presentations on research. and development. some new members of the team will be introduced. the chairman emeritus will distribute his usual wisdom. and you? well, you're the chief life officer. you just need the right professional to help you take charge. ♪ store and essentially they just get sold something. we provide the exact individualization that your body needs. it's the ultimate sale on the ultimate bed. come to the sleep number store and discover the only bed clinically proven to relieve back pain and improve sleep quality. when we actually lower the sleep number setting to get the sleep number bed to conform to them, it's amazing the transition that you
11:11 am
see with people. oh, that feels really good. it's hugging my body. they just look at you like you cured all the problems they've ever had. we hear it all the time: "i didn't know a bed could feel like this." oh yeah. during the ultimate sleep number week, queen mattresses start at just $599. plus special financing on all beds. the sleep number bed is more than just a mattress. you sleep on it, you'll understand. and for one week only, save 50% on our limited edition innovation series beds. the ultimate sleep number week. only at one of our 425 sleep number stores nationwide. sleep number. comfort individualized. nthat's why they deserve... aer anbrake dance. get 50% off new brake pads and shoes.
11:12 am
here you have this famously humble pope meading an international leader known for his life of luxury and style and expense. to be a fly on that wall today. pope francis and russian president vladimir putin meeting face-to-face today for the first time. they sat down for a closed door meeting at the vatican just a couple hours ago. this is part of putin's two day trip to rome. one of the topics of conversation, what's happening in syria. just a couple months ago, pope francis penned a letter to putin ahead of the g-20 summit telling the leader to quote, help find ways to overcome the conflicting possessi positions and lay aside the futile pursuit of a military solution. that was from the pope. joining me from rome, ben wedeman. and it's so unique and special to see the pictures of these two men who seem so far apart, perhaps idealogically in some
11:13 am
ways, but tell me more about the visit. >> well, brooke, if there was a fly on the wall in that meeting, that fly is not talking. we do know that they met for 35 minutes. one-on-one with their translators. of course, we do know that, for instance, that vladimir putin did give as a gift to pope francis an icon of the virgin mary with the baby jesus, and what we saw in tape that was distributed by the vatican, both of the men ben over and kissed that icon. in a sense, symbolizing that even though the christian democrat split in 1054 in what is known as the great schism when the west went to the vatican and the east went to the greek orthodox church, they are fundamentally united in their basic beliefs. we do know they were speaking. they did speak to some extent
11:14 am
about the situation in syria. about the plight of christians, not only in syria, but throughout the middle east. christians who increasingly are finding life very difficult in that very troubled area. both these men have expressed over the last few months and certainly pope francis just last week, their concern about the situation of the christians. but the precise details of that meeting have yet to come out. brooke. >> they may be united in several different basic beliefs, but when you think about it, ben wedeman, pope francis has -- we'll call it a far less judgmental view of gay rights, and putin, who does not agree to gay rights. maybe that was not discussed? >> well, we don't know, but obviously, that is just one of the many issues that divide them. and as you mentioned, they are very different in their style. now, the last time vladimir
11:15 am
putin was here in italy, he was meeting with his flamboyant close, personal friend, silvio berlusconi, the former prime minister of italy. now he's meeting with pope francis, a man who lives a very austere lifestyle, who has given up the papal apartment, who drives around in a car that's 30 years old. so very different men with a very different outlook on life. but some common concerns, as we know. >> ben wedeman, thank you so much for us tonight in rome. and from miley cyrus to taylor swift to jennifer lawrence. they're young. they're beautiful, they're powerful. from music to the silver screen, are these 20-somethings in particular dominating our current pop culture? plus, girls against boys. a toy maker defends its popular video ad that plays off a song by the beastie boys. we're on the case. you really love, what would you do?" ♪ [ woman ] i'd be a writer.
11:16 am
[ man ] i'd be a baker. [ woman ] i wanna be a pie maker. [ man ] i wanna be a pilot. [ woman ] i'd be an architect. what if i told you someone could pay you and what if that person were you? ♪ when you think about it, isn't that what retirement should be, paying ourselves to do what we love? ♪ paying ourselves to do what we love? i started part-time, now i'm a manager.n. my employer matches my charitable giving. really. i get bonuses even working part-time. where i work, over 400 people are promoted every day. healthcare starting under $40 a month. i got education benefits. i work at walmart. i'm a pharmacist. sales associate. i manage produce. i work in logistics. there's more to walmart than you think. vo: opportunity. that's the real walmart.
11:17 am
11:18 am
11:19 am
to paraphrase the beastie boys, you have to fight for your right to parody. ♪ ♪ girls you think you know what we want ♪ ♪ girls pink and pretty it's girls ♪ >> you know the song, so cute.
11:20 am
the toy maker made this parody of the 1986 hit, girls, but they changed the lyric to say girls want more than just pink toys and dolls to play with. lawyers for the beastie boyscome pained and now they're fighting back saying they're allowed to use the song after their use rules. after it was filed, the band released this statement, your video is an adver ticement that is designed to sell a product. long ago, we made a conscious decision not to use our name or music in product ads. >> in case you had not noticed, the kids are taking over the entertainment world. three young women in particular. >> taylor swift cleaned house last night again at the american music awards. her take includes album of the year, artist of the year for the third year in a row.
11:21 am
and then what more can we say about jennifer lawrence. the second "hunger games" movie released last week, shatderring box office records. could mean another oscar for jennifer lawrence. ♪ okay, and there was this. miley cyrus. what does she actually do? well, she generates buzz. she did it last night at the amas. has one thing in common with lawrence and swift. this lady is famous. love her or not, she is. she's still in her early 20s. she just turned 21. taylor swift, does it seem she's been around forever? no, she's 23. jennifer lawrence, oscar winner already, 23 as well. so let's talk about these ladies. there may be others who should be on the list. kelly wallace live from new york, and from washington, john murray, welcome to both of you.
11:22 am
and john, let me kick it off with you because you have these three women, cultural powerhouses in their 20s. young, women, what do you thing they have figured out about the entertainment world that others have yet to? >> i think at least two thirds of them are doing great work. taylor swift writes great songs. she sells millions of records, and she's made a decision to live a life that epitomizes morality. jennifer lawrence is working against hollywood's mean girl program. she has spoken out against shows like e! 's fashion blees, and she also does good work as an actress. miley, on the other hand, the verdict is out. it's been oversexualized. >> what was going on with the cat last night? >> a lot of other stuff. >> pick it up where he left off. >> i don't know what was going on with the cats there. that is a big question, but i will say this, too. one thick, and i think it's jennifer lawrence and taylor swift who seem to be doing it.
11:23 am
miley also a question mark. they're really appealing to the young girls, the tweens and teens. and the moms of these young germs are really happy about it. jennifer lawrence, she plays this no-nonsense, tough, lead character in the hunger games series. a series about a killing game which isn't sort of the most wonderful content, but you know, moms like to see this. she also is very authentic offstage. >> very real. and anyone who, you know, can trip upstage in a beautiful gown, right, as she's collecting her oscar, i think she seems like a pretty real, pretty authentic person. miley cyrus, i don't know, i'm going to pass and ask you this, john, who in pop culture, we have these three young women, but what about a young african-american woman who has this influence? >> the first who comes to mind is keke palmer who went on to become a nickelodeon star and recently starred in a
11:24 am
groundbreaking movie for vh1, and i don't know that the women we are talking about resonate with diversity audiences even though they resonate in a mainstream pop culture feel. i would like to see women of diversity also get recognition. african-american culture in particular, have had an influence for a long time. >> why are they not resonating? is it a race thing? >> i think so. i don't think a lot of the mainstream magazines, like vanity fair, and vogue, often think people of color can sell magazines. vogue, i'll give them credit for putting beyonce and kerry washington on the cover. all of these women offer positive influence as well. >> kelly wallace, final thought as a mom with little ones, who are they looking up to? >> they're looking up to taylor swift. they don't know much about these others. kerry washington, she's sort of the first african-american woman
11:25 am
to lead a television series. we have a long way to go. i would probably put rihanna on this list. she got this icon of the year award last night, the first ever, which is funny to call her an icon at the ripe old age of 25, but i think the message, especially coming from her mother, talking about her journey. it hasn't been an easy one, but she continues to be strong and positive, i thought those remarks were pretty positive and strong and could really reach out to young girls and young tooens and betweens everywhere. >> jaunl, you were shaking your head. 20 seconds. why are you shaking your head? >> because whitney houston rolled over in her grave and said hell to the no at the icon awards. i think they just needed a reason to get her there. >> thank you very much. i appreciate that. >> snow, ice, bone-chilling wind, a powerful storm crossing the country during one of the busiest travel seasons here. how will this impact you? as you're on the move, right? to spend your thanksgiving
11:26 am
somewhere this week. chad myers tells you where to expect this nastiness. also, news just in on the rocky rollout of obama care, but the website is adding to president obama' sinking poll numbers when it comes to his character. we'll debate this crossfire style coming up next. you're watching cnn.
11:27 am
it's hard to see opportunity in today's challenging environment. unless you have the right perspective. bny mellon wealth management has the vision
11:28 am
and experience to look beyond the obvious. we'll uncover opportunities, find hidden risk, and make success a reality. bny mellon wealth management. and i know there are many myths out there about a reverse mortgage, so i want you to know the facts. there are currently no credit score or income requirements to qualify.
11:29 am
you can get tax-free money from the equity in your home. you can use the money to pay off your current mortgage if you have one. the remaining money can be used for anything. there's no monthly mortgage payments. and you still own your home! call today to get your free guide and dvd. it explains how a government-insured reverse mortgage works. there's no obligation. one reverse mortgage is a quicken loans company. their licensed experts can answer all your questions. call to find out what a great solution this can be. don't wait, call now!
11:30 am
bottom of the hour, i'm brooke baldwin. got news just in to us at cnn. news on the terrible rollout of the obama scare and its website, specifically. an official tells cnn the quote, vast majority of people will see a smoother experience on by the end of the month. that's what we're getting from this official. let's go to the white house, to our senior white house correspondent there. jim acosta, we're talking, what, end of november here? >> that's right. that's the day that the president set, that the white house set for the last several weeks. the end of november, nev 30th. mark your calendars. they do have this date of november 30th when they say it will be workable for what they call the vast majority of users. they have quantified that in recent weeks to mean about 80% of users on will be able to get through the process of signing up for insurance, and the white house really sort of went out as far on a limb as you could today by saying they believe the website
11:31 am
is on track to meeting the goal of november 30th, which is only five days from now. one of the things that josh earnest, the deputy press secretary said in a gaggle of reporters on air force one, one thing that he did say is that the tech team working on the site has boosted its capacity so about 50,000 concurrent users can be on the site at one time and they've reduced the error rate. this is interesting, brooke. one thing they also did to control the flow of people going into the site during points of heavy demand, they have added a queueing system. you go on the slight, it's sluggage. it leaves you an option of leaving your e-mail, so they can ping you back later. this will result in a more positive experience. of course, if on november 30th, people go to the site and there are problems, you'll have a very different situation in
11:32 am
washington where people are going to start throwing up their arms and wondering what is wrong with this website and the administration if they can't get it working. >> here's hoping there will not be more explaining to do come november 30th. jim acosta, thank you very much. jim just mentioned, a great point, the president will be speaking a couple minutes from now in san francisco, specifically tackling immigration. so as soon as we see the president, we will bring you -- here you go, live pictures. we'll bring you some of the speech live here on cnn. speaking of the president, let's stay on this, on washington, because americans' views toward president obama the person have stayed pretty much the same for years, even as he is battling it out over his policies, how they have come, gone. but that's actually not the case anymore. i want to show this to you. this is the result, actually multiple results of this new cnn/orc poll, after the white house really offering this sobering reminder of how quickly opinions can shift. so you see all these different questions we're asking.
11:33 am
asking americans whether president obama is likable. that's the biggest number at 71%. that's pretty good. but is he honest? just 46% said yes. that's down 12 points since may. is he a strong leader? again, 46% agreed. does he agree with you on the issues you care about? just 44% said yes. this is the biggy. can he manage the government effectively? folks, we're talking about the president of the united states. you see just 40% said yes. so what happened? let's ask van jones, one of the hosts of cnn's "crossfire," and emily miller, senior opinion editor at the washington times. one on the left, one on the right. van jones, i want to begin with you and your former boss. if more than half of americans say the president is not honest, is not a strong leader, cannot manage the government, with three years to go, what has he got left? >> well, for one thing, he has time. i mean, he does have three more years. these numbers are bad.
11:34 am
you can't sugar coat that. he is still likable. people still think he has a good vision, but these are bad numbers. one, he has more time. in this a.d.d., amnesia culture, things change every day. he also has going for him his opponents because the republicans are also not popular. this is not a good moment for the president right now. >> you're right, the republicans are not popular. look at the congressional approval ratings. >> single digits. >> not nice at all. for equality here, emily, to you, in terms of likability, people still like the president as a person, and all of this is erupting after the messy obama care rollout, where we heard jim acosta at the white house saying hopefully the system will be workable for 80% of the people in five days. that's pretty good, moving in the right direction. let's say this whole thing rebounds. why can't the president rebound as well when the numbers go up, once the thing settles? >> well, brooke, it's not about the website.
11:35 am
why his poll numbers have paralleled the obama care rollout is because it's the number of people kicked off their insurance plans and were told by the president, you can keep your plan if you like it. what is most damaging are the numbers you cited about his beast truthworthy. the majority of the country felt the president lied to them when he said if you like your plan, you can keep it. then you have lost everything. that's a critical change here, as the president, people don't trust the president. and like him or not, if you can't trust him, how do -- the big problem, and disagreeing with my friend van on time, he doesn't have time, because he has 2014 coming up. the republicans want to take back the senate, so the president is out campaigning right now, as you just said, on the west coast, trying to raise money. he's having trouble raising money because even his base is saying, obama care is a complete disaster. it's not what we promised the american people. >> he is having an issue. they have been having to discount the seats to fill the
11:36 am
rooms in california, et cetera, for him. on the point of trustworthiness, as a leader, how does he gain that back? >> first of all, he did the right thing by coming forward and saying that he blew it, he messed up, and he try -- he has been trying to fix it. you have the perception of a broken website, a broken promise. those are things that are right there in people's faces and it's hurting his numbers. at the same time, you have a president, what nobody is paying attention to, having real success. at some point, those successes begin to pile up. he's going to be in san francisco right now. people like peace and not war in california. listen, he's got a eweapons dea with russia. russia to back off their nuclear program, trying to do the same thing with iran. he's doing things, the economy has not come back the way we want it to, but from the stock market point of view, gas prices point of view, things are moving
11:37 am
in the right direction. there are accomplishments beginning to accumulate in the background. right now, he's in a real hole. >> elallmily, you get the final word. your turn. >> when only one out of three americans thinks you're doing a good job, that's a really deep hole. and i don't think iran is going to turn out to be an accomplishment when you have bipartisan disapproval of the iran deal and calling back sanctions. i think thas going to hurt him even worse. when you're losing on the domestic front and the foreign policy front, i don't know any more fronts. i think that's all the fronts there are. >> emily miller and van jones, thank you very much. remember, watch van jones and the rest of the gang tonight and every night on cnn's "crossfire" mand through friday, 6:30 p.m. eastern. thank you very much. we mentioned just ahead, live pictures here. san francisco, as we await and the crowd awaits the president of the united states. expected any minute here to talk and really push his thoughts on immigration reform.
11:38 am
we will have that for you live. also, you will hear why facebook founder mark zuckerberg is saying immigration is a major civil rights issue. you will hear from him and soaring fares and slicing service. our christine romans shows us who's the biggest loser in a possible mega merger between top airlines. no matter how busy your morning you can always do something better for yourself. and better is so easy with benefiber. fiber that's taste-free, grit-free and dissolves completely. so you can feel free to add it to anything. and feel better about doing it. better it with benefiber.
11:39 am
medicare open enrollment. of year again. time to compare plans and costs. you don't have to make changes. but it never hurts to see if you can find better coverage, save money, or both. and check out the preventive benefits you get after the health care law. open enrollment ends december 7th. so now's the time. visit or call 1-800-medicare
11:40 am
11:41 am
it is the beginning of what will be a very busy week. more than 40 million people are expected to travel over the thanksgiving holiday, and if ice and sleet and snow don't ruin your plans, you're going to get there a-okay, but dangerous conditions have already claimed ten lives and it is monday. again, chad myers is tracking the storm for us. chad, tell me, where is the worst of it supposed to hit? >> this is a lot like the storm
11:42 am
of the century in '93. it's just not as cold. so there's going to be a lot more rain than snow or ice, but there's going to be plenty. here's the low in the gulf of mexico, somewhere probably south of houston. it's going to roll through atlanta and then on up toward the northeast. if you're on, let's say, this side, that's where the snow is going to be. if you're on this side, that's where the rain is going to be. if you're along the low, that's where a lot of the ice is going to be. ice is caused when the air above is 35, 36 degrees, but the air where you live is 30, like pittsburgh, like state college, maybe wheeling, lexington, kentucky. that's the bull's eye for this ice event we have possibly going on for tomorrow and eventually even into wednesday and by thursday, it's gone. if you can put off travel until thursday, you're probably doing okay because it will be so far past nova scotia, you'll be in good shape. the rain for atlanta, but snow north of that, along the northern edge of this, that's
11:43 am
where the ugly weather is going to be. new york city, almost all rain for you. the wind is going to be 40, so the airports are going to be a problem. it's never fun driving in the rain in new york city, anyway, but the real problem in the northeast is the wind and the airports are going to have that. >> we'll be talking all week long about the weather to make sure you're safe and have the heads up no matter where you're going. >> just in to us here at cnn, murder charges in the case of the building. remember this, this building collapse in the heart of philadelphia, killed six people. there's more to that story. we're getting these new details just in to us. we're on the case there. plus, live pictures, san francisco as we are awaiting president obama. he will be talking about his push for changes to america's immigration laws. you're watching cnn.
11:44 am
11:45 am
11:46 am
new developments on that tragic story. this is from this summer, the
11:47 am
philadelphia district attorney's office has announced charnels against that contractor involved in a dead lly building collapse. 49-year-old griffin campbell has been charged with six counts of third degree murder. six counts of involuntary manslaughter and other charges here. this happened in june. a vacant downtown philadelphia building being torn down when a four-story wall just collapsed on the salvation army thrift store next door. six people died. 13 others were injured. and an outlaw country singer shot and killed in a nashville honky-tonk bar and police are investigating whether it was justified by self-defense. 44-year-old wayne mills, leader of the wayne mills band, was shot early saturday morning inside downtown nashville's pit and barrel bar. investigators say mills and bar owner chris ferrell, they were just with some friends when the two men started to argue. >> the business owner asked him to not smoke in the bar.
11:48 am
an altercation happened between the two of those guys which resulted in one person being struck with gunfire and being transported to the hospital for their injuries. the owner of the business is a friend of the person that was injured last night. so he's very torn up about it. and very concerned about his welfare. >> mills' biography calls him, quote, an average country boy steeped in the vernacular of guns, god, and football. he had been touring southern venues. so far, no charges filed against ferrell. italian prosecutors are summarizing their case against amanda knox today in the closing arguments of knox's retrial, they told an appeals court not to make the same mistakes that the court that freed knox in 2011 did. knox was accused of killing her british roommate in 2007, she is
11:49 am
not required by law to physically be in that italian courtroom. she said she's actually afraid of returning to italy. a verdict in the phase expected in january. >> we're awaiting at any moment the report of the shooting inside sandy hook elementary school. it will be revealed, and one of the questions is, what will be learn when it comes to motive? what drove adam lanza to do this? and as the families in newtown, connecticut, grieve, should this report even be made public in the first place? also ahead here on cnn, a police officer accused of pulling a woman over, cuffing her, then sex wal assaulting her. now there is reason to believe this is not the first alleged incident. we're on the case coming up. ♪ ♪ ♪
11:50 am
[ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of all day pain relief. this season, discover aleve. all day pain relief with just two pills. how old is the oldest person you've known? we gave people a sticker and had them show us. we learned a lot of us have known someone who's lived well into their 90s. and that's a great thing. but even though we're living longer,
11:51 am
one thing that hasn't changed much is the official retirement age. ♪ the question is how do you make sure you have the money you need to enjoy all of these years. ♪
11:52 am
11:53 am
nationwide, 43.4 million people are expected to be traveling for the thanksgiving holiday. and besides fighting the likely bad weather that so many of you are going to experience, travelers are also fighting something else. fewer flights, higher fares. christine romans has the details from new york. christine. >> millions of us are flying home for thanksgiving. if you think the airport will be crowded this week, just wait. get ready for fewer flights and higher fares. take the cincinnati-northern kentucky international airport. according to analysis from usa today, the number of seats dropped by 80% between 2005 and 2013, fares jumped 26%. here are other examples.
11:54 am
at savannah hilton head, fares jumped nearly 36%. at dallas lovefield, up nearly 36%. in washington, d.c. dulles, up 32%. overall, between the first quarter of '05 and the first quarter of 2013, prices are up 6.5% on average after inflation at the top 100 airports, but fares varied widely from airport to airport. some of the flight cut-backs resulted from major airline mergers that have led carriers to squeeze service at some airports while they focus on more profitable hubs. no question, the industry has transformed in the past few decades. there were 20 u.s. carriers in 1978. 12 years later, the industry consolidated to half the number of carriers. and since then, delta merged with northwest, united can continental, and now american airlines with u.s. air. you get the picture. christine romans, cnn, new york. >> thank you. let's talk other business news.
11:55 am
two words for you, katie couric, getting a new home or a platform, as it were. she's going to yahoo. alison kosik with me from the new york stock exchange. what will katie couric be doing for yahoo, and she is television and this is internet? how is this going to work? >> exactly, so what katie couric is doing is she's hired to be yahoo's global anchor. this is going to begin next year. quirk couric is going to do features for the yahoo home page. yahoo was kind of light on giving details, but couric did give an interview over the weekend with the "new york times" saying it's a work in progress. it's likely she's going to do major interviews with news makers. also, she's expected to expandya hue's news operations. this means she will probably, probably end her relationship with abc news where she's currently a special correspondent. though yahoo does have an arrangement with abc, so some of that could continue, but her daytime talk show, katie, that
11:56 am
is going to continue. it's scheduled to go until may. after that, we're unsure what's going to happen with the talk show. >> what do you think this says about the direction of yahoo itself, this hire? >> this has been an interesting transformation for yahoo itself. it's part of ceo marissa mayers long term attempt to try to turn yahoo around. she's been trying to make yahoo younger, more relevant, more hip, more inovatdive. she took over the reinsads ceo. she bought tumbler, and a news aggregator. now you're seeing yahoo making several big editorial hires to grow its content. couric, also a big tech editor from the "new york times" and others as well. at this point, wall street does seem to like her strategy. they do like the way yahoo is going. you see its shares. they're up 133% since she became ceo, but you have to also remember the deal most likely cost yahoo a lot of money. couric reportedly makes upwards
11:57 am
of -- made upwards of $16 million at cbs before she moved on to abc. no word on what she's making at yahoo, but we can only imagine. >> we can only imagine and speculate and add the zeros. thank you very much. and now this. >> this very minute, the long-awaited report of the shooting inside of sandy hook is revealed. but is it really worth it to release all this information when it hurts these families? i'm brooke baldwin. the news is now. this week is going to be a nightmare for millions of americans trying to get home. plus, the pope meets putin. and megachurch pastor joel osteen joins me live in studio on what he would tell the grieving families of newtown.
11:58 am
and here we go, hour two. i'm brooke baldwin. want to begin with the president of the united states and immigration. this is an issue that never goes away. it symbolizes the paralysis in washington. president obama in san francisco. let's take a listen. here he is. >> i want to thank your mayor, ed lee. lieutenant governor gavin newsom. i want to recognize some wonderful members of congress who are fighting every day for the people of california, mike honda. eric swalwell, judy chew. they are all doing great work every single day. we have a special guest, janet napolitano, who is now overseeing the entire uc system. and going to be doing a great job.
11:59 am
we miss her back in washington. but she is going to be outstanding leading the university of california. now, before i begin, i want to say a few words about the news from the weekend. i'm here to talk about immigration reform, but i'm also here in my capacity as commander in chief. and this weekend, together with our allies and our partners, the united states reached an agreement with iran on a first step towards resolving our concerns over its nuclear program. some of you may recall that when i first ran for president, i said it was time for a new era of american leadership in the world, one that turned the page on a decade of war and began a new era of our engagement with the world. and as president and as commander in chief, i've done what i said. we ended the war in iraq. we brought our troops home. osama bin laden met justice.
12:00 pm
the war in afghanistan will end next year. and as the strongest, most powerful nation on the face of the earth, we have engaged in clear-eyed and principled diplomacy, even with our adversaries in order to begin to destroy syria's chemical weps and to place the first real constraints in a decade on iran's nuclear program. because i firmly believe in what president kennedy once said. he said, let us never negotiate out of fear but let us never fear to negotiate. i believe that. and this diplomacy backed by the unprecedented sanctions we brought on iran, has brought us the progress that was achieved this weekend. for the first time in a decade, we halted the progress on iran's nuclear program. key parts of the program will be rolled back.
12:01 pm
international inspectors will have unprecedented access to iran's nuclear related facilities. so this will help iran from building a nuclear weapon. over the coming months, we're going to continue our diplomacy with the goal of achieving a comprehensive solution that deals with the threat of iran's nuclear program once and for all. and if iran seizes this opportunity and chooses to join the global community, then we can begin to chip away at the mistrust that's existed for many, many years between our two nations. none of that's going to be easy. huge challenges remain, but we cannot close the door on diplomacy, and we cannot rule out peaceful solutions to the world's problems. we cannot commit ourselves to an endless cycle of violence, and tough talk may be the easy thing to do plit clael, but it's not the right thing for our security. it's not the right thing for our security.
12:02 pm
now, this progress and the potential it offers reminds us of what is possible when the united states has the courage to lead. not just with the force of arms but with the strength of our diplomacy and our commitment to peace. that's what keeps us strong. that's what makes us a beacon to the world. that's how i'll continue to lead so long as i'm president of the united states. and that spirit, not just what we can criticize or tear down or be against, but what we can build together, that's what brings mere here today. because it's long past time to fix our broken immigration system. we need to make sure washington finishes what so many americans just like you started. we have to finish the job.
12:03 pm
and it's fitting that we're here in chinatown, just a few miles away from angel island. in the early 1900s, about 300,000 people, maybe some of them your ancestors, passed through on their way to a new life in america. and for many, it represented the end of a long and arduous journey. they had finally arrived in a place where they believed anything was possible. and for some, it also represented the beginning of a new struggle against prejudice in a country that didn't always treat its immigrants fairly or afford them the same rights as everybody else. obviously, asians face this. but so did the irish. so did the italians. so did jews. and many groups still do today. that didn't stop those brave men and women from coming. they were drawn by a belief in the power of opportunity. in a belief that says maybe i
12:04 pm
never had a chance at a good education, but there's a place where my daughter can go to college. maybe i started out washing dishes, but this is a place where my son can become mayor of san francisco. >> all right, we're going to pull away from the president, but you can continue watching him, beginning to talk about something that -- a push for immigration reform, as we heard him talk about in many, many speeches. also coming out and mentioning the significant of really what it is right now, this interim deal while a major, major long term deal is finalized when it comes to irob. the president speaking there in california, getting money for the democratic party. we should also mention, a lot of discounted seats to see the president on this west coast swing. so not quite getting the dollar that he had before in filling the rooms. the president there in california. let me move along and talk weather here because many of your eyes and ears are perked as
12:05 pm
you're heading out this week. a major storm is moving across the united states right now. just in time to snarl thanksgiving travel for millions of americans. this is a large system. this is packing snow and ice and freezing rain and high winds. it's deadly. at least ten deaths have been blamed on treacherous conditions thus far. already, nearly 500 departing flights have been canceled at dallas-ft. worth international airport just to keep down the number of stranded passengers. cnn's nick valencia is there in dallas. what do you see? >> brooke, it has been a busy travel day here at dallas-ft. worth international airport. we've seen 300 flights canceled yesterday. another 180 departing flights cancel this morning. passengers having mixed reactions of how they're handling the delays and cancellation cancellations. earlier we spoke to the spokesperson for the airport and asked how things would be going
12:06 pm
forward. >> we had about 180 departures cancel this morning. that's going to have a ripple effect across the country, but right now, the situation is that the weather has gotten much better and the afternoon flying actually looks really good. most of the cancellations were in the morning hours and due to the fact that very few planes were here in the morning to take the morning flights. it's looking better for today and the rest of the day. >> we have seen things pick up in the last couple hours. are you saying the worst is past? are we in the clear? >> from a weather perspective, the worst is pass, at least for the dallas-ft. worth area. the afternoon schedule looks great, just a few spots of cancellations here and there, but a very busy schedule for the afternoon. we're aware that it's thanksgiving travel week. and it's a peak period for us anyway. and as it is across the country, so we're triying to get as many flights out as we can. >> we're talking about dallas, but what happens here has a ripple effect all across the united states, impacting places like central pennsylvania,
12:07 pm
upstate new york. we're seeing the severe weather system move through texas, arkansas, and oklahoma, causing problems there as well. this is a busy travel week, thanksgiving holiday, lots of americans, about 40 million americans,ect expected to get on the road, traveling 50 miles or more outside their home. if you're traveling, it would be the best advice to look at the travel advisories and stay safe. >> give yourself extra time. nick vulenls yeah for us in dallas. chad myers, i'm going to spin over and talk to you. what are we looking at now? >> clearing, dallas is in good shape, but the storm is moving into cold air again. it's it low that's going to run up the east coast. if it's farther offshore, there will be more snow. if it's farther inland, there will be more rain. driving up i-kw81, if you're ea, you get rain. if you're west of there, you get snow. if you're right along it, you get ice. that is the rub with this storm. there's enough cold air already in place and the moisture from the gulf of mexico, the
12:08 pm
humidity, the rain, is going to try to rain down on your parade at 31 degrees. if your local weatherman says rain and 34, don't worry about it, i want you to worry about it because the computers don't do a very good job keeping the cold air in place on a storm like this. the computers try to scour the warm air away and just kind of push it down and say 34, when in fact it could be fwo29. it doesn't take much to go from one side of freezing to another. anywhere from pennsylvania to west virginia, parts of ohio down to kentucky, tennessee, that's the ice zone. now, think about this. you have 80, 90, the turnpike, 64, you have 66, you got all the big interstates, 75, that have to drive right through this icy mess. and yes, it's over by wednesday. it's all done, even on thursday. it's just a little bit of wind, but you have all of these big interstates that are going to be impacted. and the big airports affected by wind as well. not so much ice or snow, but by wind. >> go slowly. this is the story of the week.
12:09 pm
so many people are getting out, heading wherever they're heading for thanksgiving. we'll be here. thank you so much. it's not just the weather that can impact your holiday travel plans. it's also the airline. and in about 20 minutes, we'll tell you about the best and worst airlines for holiday travel. see which list your airline is on. meantime, some stunning new fallout today from the rape of a 16-year-old girl by two high school football players in steubenville, ohio. a grand jury has now indicted four more people in connection with this case, including the school's superintendent. ohio attorney general mike dewine announced earl yoier tod two other educators and an assistant football coach were also indicted. he talked to ashleigh banfield moments after the announcement. >> the grand jury did an exhaustive job of examining what happened, and really, i think the message out of this today is
12:10 pm
how can we hold kids accountable if we don't hold adults accountable? and that's really what the grand jury is saying by these indictments. >> superintendent michael mcveigh is the only one to be charged with felonies, tampering with evidence, obstructing justice. six people in total have been charged in connection with this case after two students were convicted of rape back in march. jeff toobin, let me bring you in, our cmn legal analyst and legal mind here. we have the news of these indictments, and these are educators. what is a person's responsibility to report something like this? >> well, the important thing to remember is, it's actually a tough -- the law has never been entirely clear on what your abigation is to report what you see. do you have an affirmative obligation? but if you go to the police and if they ask you questions, you can't lie to them. you can't tamper with evidence. that's what these cases really are about. they're not about failure to
12:11 pm
report in the first place. they're really about lying and obstructing once the police started looking into this crime, which as everybody probably remembers, all came about through social media. >> and the videos and photos seen by so many and apparently passed around by the students. what about the -- they said they did this exhaustive job. what did that involve to get this evidence? >> this is what is so fascinating and disturbing about this case. is there were a lot of suspicions that once this rape became public, once those photographs came out in social media, that this football crazy community closed ranks around the suspects, not around the victim. and then tried to protect these football players from being charged. that is precisely what mike dewine, the attorney general, is
12:12 pm
saying happened. instead of trying to assist the investigation, instead of trying to assist the victim of this terrible crime, many prominent people in this community, including the school superintendent -- >> could face prison time. >> were obstructive. >> stick around because i want to move along. moments ago, i want to move from steubenville here to connecticut. state officials in connecticut released this report about the crime that shattered the nation just about one year ago. and our cnn team has been combing through the report of the sandy hook shootings. we have these new details just released. we'll reveal them and have a bigger discussion about what this means coming up next. what you wear to bed is your business.
12:13 pm
so, if you're sleeping in your contact lenses, ask about the air optix® contacts so breathable they're approved for up to 30 nights of continuous wear. serious eye problems may occur. ask your doctor and visit for safety information and a free one-month trial. humans -- we are beautifully imperfect creatures, living in an imperfect world. that's why liberty mutual insurance has your back, offering exclusive products like optional better car replacement,
12:14 pm
where, if your car is totaled, we give you the money to buy one a model year newer. call... and ask an insurance expert about all our benefits today, like our 24/7 support and service, because at liberty mutual insurance, we believe our customers do their best out there in the world, so we do everything we can to be there for them when they need us. plus, you could save hundreds when you switch -- up to $423. call... today. liberty mutual insurance. responsibility. what's your policy?
12:15 pm
all right, just minutes ago, connecticut's division of criminal justice releases the summary report on what happened at sandy hook elementary cool just about a year ago. joining me from new york, susan
12:16 pm
candiotti. also with me, jeff toobin. so susan, first to you. when you have gone through this report from this horrendous shooting from a year ago. does it answer the question why? >> it doesn't. don't we wish that it did? it's only about 44 pages long, and honestly, we have not had time to go through everything, so i'm pulling together some information from the executive summary, but there are three main findings that it contains. that is this. first of all, probably to no one's surprise, the shooter acted alone, according to the state's attorney. they have found no evidence to indicate he planned this with anyone or had help from anyone in carrying out this terrible massacre at sandy hook elementary. secondly, no clear reason why he did it, and why he chose sandy hook elementary as his target where he killed 26 people, 20 of them young children. and finally, they recognize that
12:17 pm
he had significant mental health problems. how and whether that played a role, according to the state's attorney, remains unknown at this time. they have interviewed several mental health care professionals, none of whom, according to the state attorney, say they could have predicted this kind of behavior. perhaps not surprisingly. >> why, jeff toobin, this is for you? why, then, because i immediately think of the families, not just the families having been in newtown, really the entire community. why release this report if there's no real answer? why reinjure the community? >> given the magnitude of the event i could understand why. there's a significant public interest in knowing what happened, if there was a conspira conspiracy, if there was a failure in the mental health system, if there was a failure in gun regulation, another fact i learned in just starting to read it since it came over is that all of the guns used were purchased legally by adam lanza,
12:18 pm
the killer, who also killed his mother. they were all purchased legally by his mother. there has been a big controversy in connecticut about release of the 911 calls. >> right. >> a lot of the journalists in connecticut have wanted those tapes to be released. the connecticut authorities have said no, that is too disturbing, too upsetting for the community. so i do think the connecticut authorities are trying to balance legitimate needs of the public with an attempt not to reopen and make worse those horrible, horrible wounds. >> sure, it's a delicate balance. not just the 911 photos. there was discussion about some of the crime scene photos as well. susan, is this it? investigation over? >> it's not. in fact, we're expecting fairly soon, actually, a much more extensive report that will be filled with evidence. and a criminal investigation conducted by the connecticut state police. this is what they do. and it will be several thousand
12:19 pm
pages long. so that will be interesting to see. all of this, we have to remember, is in hopes of trying to learn lessons here. and how to try to prevent these kinds of terrible mass shootings from happening again, brooke. >> 20 little lives cut short, just about one year ago. i hope a lesson can be learned. again, just one year later, you can't help but feel for these families in newtown, connecticut. jeff toobin and susan candiotti, my thanks to you. just about ten minutes from now, special guest joining me live in studio, joel osteen, the tell vanjalist, pastor of one of the largest churches in the country. with the news from newtown, what would he say to one of the parents who lost a little one in sandy hook? we'll have a huge conversation with joel osteen coming up in about ten minutes from now. do not miss that. also today, we have new developments to report on a story, i'm sure you remember from the summer, just the pictures from philadelphia. the district attorney there, the
12:20 pm
office has just announced charges against the contractor involved in that deadly building collapse. 49-year-old griffin campbell has been charged with six counts of third degree murder and six counts of involuntary manslaughter. this happened back in june. there was a vacant building in do downtown philadelphia being torn down when a four-story wall collapsed on that salvation army thrift store next door. a number of people were inside at the time. six people died, 13 others were hurt. coming up next, millions of americans will be traveling this week for the thanksgiving holiday. you want to get to your destination on time and safely, right? we'll give you the rankings for the best and worst airlines for holiday travel. also, the pope meets putin. the catholic leader and russian president sit down behind closed doors. what was the topic of that conversation? don't you want to know? that's next. you're watching cnn. store and essentially they
12:21 pm
just get sold something. we provide the exact individualization that your body needs. it's the ultimate sale on the ultimate bed. come to the sleep number store and discover the only bed clinically proven to relieve back pain and improve sleep quality. when we actually lower the sleep number setting to get the sleep number bed to conform to them, it's amazing the transition that you see with people. oh, that feels really good. it's hugging my body. they just look at you like you cured all the problems they've ever had. we hear it all the time: "i didn't know a bed could feel like this." oh yeah. during the ultimate sleep number week, queen mattresses start at just $599. plus special financing on all beds. the sleep number bed is more than just a mattress. you sleep on it, you'll understand. and for one week only, save 50% on our limited edition innovation series beds. the ultimate sleep number week. only at one of our 425 sleep number stores nationwide. sleep number. comfort individualized.
12:22 pm
12:23 pm
♪ ♪ ♪ [ female announcer ] get your taste of the season, at raley's, bel air, and nob hill.
12:24 pm
it is a big week for travel, and just in time for thanksgiving, you have ice and snow and freezing rain moving east across the country. threatening to upset travel plans for millions of you. the storm has already claimed ten lives. fortunately as you look at these pictures, you see this suv spinning about. flips over. look at this person, the person is sok because the person inside was buckled up. it's frightening none the less. no doubt the bad weather will affect a lot of people hitting the air this holiday week for
12:25 pm
thanksgiving. zain asher has been looking at which airlines handle the holiday crush the best. spill it, who's the best? >> yeah, we looked at statistics from the department of transportation ranking the 13 best and worst airlines in terms of holiday travel specifically over the past three years during the thanksgiving week. airlines always are judged in terms of on-time performance, delays, diversions, cancellations, things we care about. in terms of the best, hawaiian airlines scored the best. 93% of their flights arrived on time over the past three thanksgiving and over the past two years specifically, they reported absolutely no cancellations. part of the reason for this is hawaiian airline s rarely has t contend with bad weather. also, their flights are shorter. now, on the other end of the spectrum, sky west, and also in terms of major airlines, jet blue didn't do too well.
12:26 pm
they scored the worst in terms of diversions and delays. jet blue flies in some of the busiest airports in the country. we're talking jfk, newark, lugard yeah, and they also have to contend with east coast severe weather systems. >> with all these numbers and the different airlines, will things being any better this year as people are traveling? >> it's going to be tinterestin. cnn has been following closely the severe weather system. we know specifically out of dallas-ft. worth, 500 flights have been canceled. also 10% of the flights coming out of oklahoma city's will rogers airport have been canceled, but overall, things in general are getting better. in 2004, 72% of flights came in on time over thanksgiving. now that number is up to 87%. >> zain asher, thank you very much. >> of course. >> moments ago, president obama responding to hecklers there in san francisco as he talked immigration reform. you'll hear that back and forth.
12:27 pm
plus, he is the leader of one of the biggest churches in this country. joel osteen in studio 7, going to join me to talk everything from america's mental health crisis, the state of spirituality in the country. has a brand new book out. we'll talk to him coming up. do not miss this. [ male announcer ] laura's heart attack didn't come with a warning. today her doctor has her on a bayer aspirin regimen to help reduce the risk of another one. if you've had a heart attack, be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. if you've had a heart attack, be sure to talk to your doctor i started part-time, now i'm a manager.n. my employer matches my charitable giving. really. i get bonuses even working part-time. where i work, over 400 people are promoted every day. healthcare starting under $40 a month. i got education benefits. i work at walmart. i'm a pharmacist. sales associate. i manage produce. i work in logistics. there's more to walmart than you think. vo: opportunity. that's the real walmart.
12:28 pm
you really love, what would you do?" ♪ [ woman ] i'd be a writer. [ man ] i'd be a baker. [ woman ] i wanna be a pie maker. [ man ] i wanna be a pilot. [ woman ] i'd be an architect. what if i told you someone could pay you and what if that person were you? ♪ when you think about it, isn't that what retirement should be, paying ourselves to do what we love? ♪
12:29 pm
before using her new bank of america credit card, which rewards her for responsibly managing her card balance. before receiving $25 toward her balance each quarter for making more than her minimum payment on time each month.
12:30 pm
tracey got the bankamericard better balance rewards credit card, which fits nicely with everything else in life she has to balance. that's the benefit of responsibility. apply online or visit a bank of america near you. bottom of the hour, i'm brooke baldwin. thank you so much for being with me. special guest here in the studio who was once a college dropout,
12:31 pm
would you believe? so shy he said he preferred running a camera let alone being in front of it, let alone being in front of thousands and thousands of people. who would have thought that would have been joel oosteen. about 45,000 people attend his service every week. more than 12 million watch him on tv. he said he prayed big, believed big to reach his status. in his latest book entitled "break out" he shows how you can overcome obstacles and live an extraordinary life. >> that bake break cannot hold you back, that sickness cannot stop you. that addiction cannot defeat you. there is a power in you greater than any power that comes against you. >> and here he is in studio, joel osteen. such a pleasure. nice to meet you. >> great to be with you. >> welcome to cnn. >> thank you.
12:32 pm
>> the book is breakout. we're going to talk about it, but i wanted to begin, we had the news with the report out of sandy hook. a new investigation talking ability the horrendous event that happened about a year ago, and 20 first graders gone. one of the chapters in your book, you talk about weathering the storm and god. and i'm wondering, if there were to be a parent of one of those little kids sitting there, what would you tell this mother or father? >> it's difficult. it's difficult things we face. what i would tell you is god has you in the palm of his hand. nothing is a surprise to god, and my encouragement would be draw close to god. your children are with god. when you're close to god, i believe you'll stay close to your children. i'm not saying that eases the pain, but i think that's a lot better than getting bitter, blaming god, blaming others. you come back to that place of peace, to believe your children are with god. >> it's the age old question, why do bad things happen to good
12:33 pm
people. god uses the storm to move you from point a to point b. the winds may be strong, the circumstances may look bad, but if you stay in faith, not get bitter, not complain, those winds will blow you to a new level of your destiny. it's tough for parents to think how is this part of my destiny, to lose a 6-year-old? >> there's just things we don't understand. you know, i know this, though, that god will give you grace for every season. he doesn't let you go through something that's too diflficult to handle. i can't fathom that because i have never been through that, but you know, there's difficult things about faith. there's things about god that we don't understand. i think it comes back to, god has given us our free will, and people do evil in the world and it brings hurt and that's a shame. >> part of this is mental health, and rick warren, he spoke with piers morgan after losing his son, who committed suicide this year, incredibly tragic, but he's now trying to raise awareness when it comes to
12:34 pm
mental health. here he is, rick warren. >> we have gone to the best doctors, the best hospitals, the best treatments, therapists, everything, prayer, everything you could imagine. good support. and he says, it's real clear i'm not going to get any better, so why can't i just die? i know i'm going to heaven. i know i'm going to heaven. he was not afraid to die. >> what did you say to him, rick? >> in that situation, i said, matthew, the reason why is there is a purpose, even in our pain. and i am not willing to just give up and say that the solution isn't there. >> he's said he's taken the issue of mental health to the pulpit with him. i'm curious if you do the same. >> rick is a great friend and our hearts broke with him and his family, but we talk about healing and dealing with re real-life issues. sometimes we have not looked at mental health as a traditional sickness, but i think you have
12:35 pm
to. and we have to do our best to help those people. >> how do you help those people? >> well, i think, you know, some of it is to get them into the right places where people are trained to to that. we pray, we believe, like rick said, but some of it is out of our hands. it's got to be professional institutions to get them to, and i think that the big part of it is seeing it as a real disease, you may look fine, but you know what, there's something not clicking there. >> stay with me. i have a couple more questions. your book is called break outs. we'll talk same-sex marriage, wealth, positiverty. how you interm rlt things in the bible literally and maybe not as much. joel osteen live in the studio. we'll be right back. [ woman ] we had two tiny reasons to get our adt security system. and one really big reason. our neighbor's house was broken into. and since we can't monitor everything 24/7, we got someone who could. adt.
12:36 pm
[ male announcer ] no one looks out for you like adt, with fast response monitoring to help protect you from burglary, fire, and more. starting at just over $1 a day. [ man ] and after buying two of everything, it was nice to only need one security system -- adt. [ male announcer ] get adt installed for just $49. adt. always there.
12:37 pm
12:38 pm
12:39 pm
i'm back now with mega pastor, we were talking at the break, how does that sit with you, mega pastor? he said it's all right. joel osteen in the studio. his latest book here which he was in town to sign for folks, "break out." and we're asking these questions. you're so gracious to answer the questions. first, billy graham, the billy graham. he recently said this was his 95th birthday party, what could be his final sermon here. i want to play just a clip. >> our country's in great need of a spiritual awakening. there have been times i have wept as i have gone from city to city and seen how far people have wandered from god. >> people wandering from god. looking ahead here, do you have the same fears? >> well, i think, you know, dr. graham has been a hero of mine growing up in a preacher's home. i think i do, in a sense. in another sense, i see faith in
12:40 pm
america is at a high. i mean, i say that -- i never dreamed i would be pastor in a church with tens of thousands of people. i had friends with churches of a lot of people. in one sense, people are turning to their faith, but i understand what dr. graham is saying, too. there is a sense that says we are wondering. >> in your gut, do you feel like -- so it's not as much a fear? >> it's not a fear to me. i think the scripture talks about it. it's going to grow darker as the time gets, but it shows for people of faith, we should shine brighter. it doesn't make me afraid of whats going on in the world today. there's sadness for certain things, but i don't have a fear. i have an excitement and i see thousands of people who love god, want to do right. a lot of good in the world. >> let's talk about a couple issues we deal with in the news a lot. wealth, poverty, marriage, same-sex marriage. then jesus said to his
12:41 pm
disciples, amen, it will be hard for one who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. again, i say to you, it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for one who is rich to enter the kingdom of god. you've done fairly well. you live an affluent life. you obviously interpret that differently. then when you read the bible, you read about marriage, that it should be between a man and woman, that is what you believe. how do you determine what to take literally and not from the bible? >> well, i think, brooke, you have to look at the whole, you know, the whole theme and the whole -- i guess just the whole theme. you know, same-sex marriage, you don't see a marriage between two males or two females in the bible. i'm not against anybody. i just don't see it there. with the stripture there, it's hard for a rich person, jesus also started the new covenant with abraham, and he was the healthiest man in the east, the scripture says. it also says the love of money is the root of all evil.
12:42 pm
if your focus is only about money -- my focus is not about money. hour focus is about excelling, coming up higher. my dad came out of the depression. he's the one who had the basket for the poorest family. i believe we're supposed to rise higher and excel. i don't come from the mentality you're supposed to be poor and broke to show god you're humble. >> what about with same-sex marriage? we have seen the president evolve, i believe was his word. several very high-profile conservatives, states evolving. will you evolve? >> i feel like that's what i see in the scripture. again, i go back to this because you know, we have these interviews and people say, you're against and you hate people, but there are all kinds of people in our church. different kinds. so you know, that's what i see in the scripture. that's the way i choose to live my life. i'm not trying to force my believes on anybody else. not everybody reads it like me. i'm not one who says, everybody has to be just like me, but this is how i'm going to choose to
12:43 pm
live my life. the main thing is god said we should love god and love each other. that's the focus of our ministry, lifting people up. there's enough hate. >> lifting people is the focus of your book "break out." tell me about what people can learn here. >> what they can learn is a lot of times we put limitations on ourselves. we were talking before the break. for 17 years, i didn't think i could be on stage. i'm too quiet, too reserved. my dad said you would make a good minister, for 17 years i wouldn't do it. i had all these limitations on myself, we say, i don't have the education or i'm too this or too that. when you take the limitations off yourself and take the limititations off god, you never know where it's going to take you. >> thank you so much and have a wonderful thanksgiving with your family. thank you so much. >> thanks, brooke. moments ago, president obama
12:44 pm
responding to hecklers in san francisco as he's been out there talking immigration reform. we'll have that back and forth for you, how he responded to the folks in the crowd. also, a police officer is accused of raping a young woman while he was on duty in uniform and in a marked patrol car, and this isn't the first time the 11-year veteran had been accused of such a crime. more on that coming up next. you're watching cnn. side-by-side, so you get the same coverage, often for less. that's one smart board -- what else does it do, reverse gravity? [ laughs ] split atoms? [ flo chuckles ] [ whirring ] hey, how's that atom-splitting thing going? oh!
12:45 pm
a smarter way to shop around -- now that's progressive. call or click today. [ laughter ] ♪ [ female announcer ] each one of us is our own boss. ♪ and no matter where you are in life, ask your financial professional how lincoln financial can help you take charge of your future. ♪
12:46 pm
you're history. selsun blue itchy dry scalp. gets to the root of dandruff and hydrates the scalp. selsun blue itchy dry scalp.
12:47 pm
moments ago, president obama was heckled while making his remarks in california, speaking on immigration. he was talking in san francisco when someone in this crowd started yelling "stop deportation." take a look. >> that's exactly what we're talking about. that's why we're here. >> mr. president, please use your executive order to halt
12:48 pm
deportation for all immigrants in this country right now. do you agree that we need to -- at the same time, you have the power to stop the deportation of all. >> actually, i don't. that's why we're roar here. >> i need you help. >> okay. stop deportation. stop deportation! >> what i would like to do -- no, no, don't worry about it, guys. okay, let me finish. let me -- how about -- these guys don't need to go. let me finish. no, no, no. he can stay there. let me -- hold on a second. [ applause ] >> hold on a second. so i respect the passion of these young people. because they feel deeply about the concerns for their families. now, what you need to know when i'm speaking as president of the
12:49 pm
united states and i come to this community is that if in fact i could solve all these problems without passing laws in congress, then i would do so. but we're also a nation of laws. that's part of our tradition. and so the easy way out is to try to yell and pretend like i can do something by violating our laws, and what i'm proposing is the harder path, which is to use our democratic processes to achieve the same goal that you want to achieve, but it won't be as easy as just shouting. it requires us lobbying and getting it done. >> there's the president speaking off script, responding to that guy behind him shouting, heckling him. just a brief backstory. the gentleman who we couldn't really see but hear saying stop deportation, he wanted the president to reunite him with his family for thanksgiving.
12:50 pm
they're out of the country. so that was the crux behind his shouting there. his heckling of the president of the united states, as the president was moving along on the case this hour, a story coming to us from san antonio. a woman is accusing police officer jackie lynn neill of sexually assaulting her after she was pulled over for a traffic violation. the officer told cnn earlier today quote, the allegations are false and he's meeting with his attorney this afternoon. cnn legal analyst sunny hostin joins me. let's back up. what does the alleged victim, what do they say happened to her early saturday morning? >> yeah, brooke. i have a copy of the arrest warrant and she is alleging that she was followed by officer neill, an 11 year veteran of the force, approximately 40 years old. she says she was followed by the officer, that he told her that he was following her because her
12:51 pm
car had been reported stolen. then she gave him a receipt for the car, she had recently purchased it, and she said that is when things took a turn. he handcuffed her, brought her to his vehicle and sexually assaulted her. that is what she says. of course, they did investigate it and the police department felt that it was appropriate to arrest him and charge him and so you know, what is interesting to me when i reviewed this, brooke, is that he faced a similar allegation not too long ago, a few years ago, from another woman. we're being told that that woman refused to testify and so that case was not followed up upon, and we were also told that he was officially disciplined for violating department policy for dating an 18-year-old member of the department's police explorer program which apparently is a program that introduces young people to law enforcement. so this is not his first brush
12:52 pm
with being disciplined but this is certainly the most serious. >> so with this case, here's this woman who was pulled over for this traffic violation, you said 2:00 in the morning, this uniformed cop allegedly assaults her. is there any way -- what's the take-away because as a female, if you're pulled over, you want to abide by the law. what's the take-away here? >> yeah. you know, these things don't usually happen. this is rare and you are supposed to pull over when you are stopped by law enforcement. this is very rare, this is very unusual. you should follow a law enforcement officer's lead when he or she tells you to pull over and asks you for license, registration, that sort of thing. this was anything but a routine traffic stop and i think that certainly has to be the take-away. what is also interesting, one thing i want to mention is that in terms of -- for support for this arrest warrant, they are saying the gps on his car
12:53 pm
certainly had him stopped at this location for 18 minutes which approximately is the amount of time this victim says she was assaulted and also, the camera that we all hear about, the camera on board the police cruiser wasn't working. >> wasn't working. sunny, we'll follow up on it. thank you very much. next, a new study on the morning after pill. the results show it may not work for women who are over a certain weight. our medical team has been digging on this one. we'll be right back. [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso.
12:54 pm
i just served my mother-in-law your chicken noodle soup but she loved it so much... i told her it was homemade. everyone tells a little white lie now and then. but now she wants my recipe [ clears his throat ] [ softly ] she's right behind me isn't she? [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. ♪ here we are, me and you ♪ on the road ♪ and we know that it goes on and on ♪ [ female announcer ] you're the boss of your life. in charge of making memories and keeping promises. ask your financial professional how lincoln financial can help you take charge of your future. ♪
12:55 pm
♪ oh, oh, all the way ♪ oh, oh just by talking to a helmet. it grabbed the patient's record before we even picked him up. it found out the doctor we needed was at st. anne's. wiggle your toes. [ driver ] and it got his okay on treatment from miles away. it even pulled strings with the stoplights. my ambulance talks with smoke alarms and pilots and stadiums. but, of course, it's a good listener too. [ female announcer ] today cisco is connecting the internet of everything. so everything works like never before. [ female announcer ] today cisco is connecting the internet of everything. maestro of project management. baron of the build-out. you need a permit... to be this awesome. and from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle... and go. you can even take a full-size or above, and still pay the mid-size price. (aaron) purrrfect.
12:56 pm
(vo) meee-ow, business pro. meee-ow. go national. go like a pro. progressive direct and other car insurance companies? yes. but you're progressive, and they're them. yes. but they're here. yes. are you...? there? yes. no. are you them? i'm me. but those rates are for... them. so them are here. yes! you want to run through it again? no, i'm good. you got it? yes. rates for us and them -- now that's progressive. call or click today. here's a warning for women who use the morning after pill.
12:57 pm
an emergency contraceptive manufacturer in europe that is identical to a drug sold right here in the u.s. has been found to be ineffective for women weighing more than 176 pounds. cnn's senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen has been working this. so over 176 and it didn't work for you? >> it didn't seem to work, yeah. it didn't seem to work. so that's a huge concern, considering that more than half of all women in this country are over that weight. sort of that weight range. that's a big deal. it's not like it's one or two. it's a lot of women who are probably taking this pill and are over that weight range. as you said, it's the same pill as they have in europe. >> what do they do? >> what you need to do is reconsider taking an over the counter emergency contraceptive. if you find yourself in a sort of morning after situation and you weigh more than this, you need to think about taking a prescription contraceptive for the morning after instead of an over the counter. >> okay. thank you very much. now this. it is our favorite video of the
12:58 pm
day, apparently yours as well. dance-off between an nba usher and 11-year-old fan has apparently gotten 3.9 million views on youtube. roll it. ♪ ♪ >> kid's facial expressions are priceless. these two worked it out on the dance cams during a game between detroit and new york, wowing the 20,000 fans in the arena and this morning, the two had a rematch on cnn's "new day."
12:59 pm
>> here we go. crazy legs. >> give him the back. that's it. that's it. >> watch this. that's popping right there. old school popping. it's crazy feet. i like it! >> no word on who actually won the rematch but after the dance-off, the 11-year-old made sure to add that he was born with smooth moves, to quote him. before we go, a famously humble pope meeting an international leader known for a life of luxury and expense. pope francis and russian president vladimir putin face-to-face for the first time they sat down for a closed door meeting at the vatican.
1:00 pm
one of the topics of conversation, the conflict in syria. couple months ago, pope francis penned a letter to putin ahead of the g-20, telling the russian president to help find ways to overcome the conflicting opinions and to lay aside the futile pursuit of a military solution. i'm brooke baldwin. thanks for being with me. john berman in for jake tapper. "the lead" starts right now. i would like to tell you won't be having thanksgiving dinner at an airport sbarro's. i would like to. i'm john berman. this is "the lead." the national lead. a special welcome to everyone watching us on an airport television during a flight delay. the cold blast putting the freeze on travel ahead of thanksgiving and the worst is yet to come as this killer storm aims for even more americans. the world lead. historic or historic mistake? just how israel characterizes the deal aimed at curbing iran's nuclear ambitions. as long as the u.s.