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has been out of the news game for a while. >> if this news thing doesn't work out for me, what do you think? do i have potential for the big screen? >> great interview with you, great to meet you. >> listen, i'll tell you what, why don't we do the rankings six months from now, when the movie wouldn't be playing then, until then, you stay classy, ron burgundy, you will also be with us. was it really necessary to arrest and strip search an indian diplomat? plus, will president obama scale back the nsa spying program? and duck dynasty under fire. was the show's star being offensive or just true to his religious beliefs? good evening. i'm jake tapper in for erin burnett. we'll get to our top story in a minute. first big news out of the markets.
the dow rose more than 292 points. the s&p 500 rising by nearly 30. both closing at record highs. you can see the spike there at 2:00 p.m. eastern. that's when the federal reserve nounced it would start cutting the stimulus program. the process dubbed tapering. something investors have been waiting for. a big sign the fed thinks the economy is slowly but surely ill proving. ben bernanke said an improved outlook was one of the reasons the fed chose to start tapering. to our top story, a show of remorse. john kerry expressing regret for the strip search of an indian diplomat. the incident has caused an international uproar with the indian government retaliating against the u.s. the white house trying to diffuse the situation will. >> thus far, all indications are that standard procedures were followed. because we recognize that this
is a very sensitive issue in india, we are continuing to review exactly what happened in this case. >> deborah has more on the allegations against the indian diplomat. >> reporter: as she left the indian mission in new york city wednesday, devyani khobragade offered no comment. she was charged with false statements on a visa application she submitted on behalf of her nanny. according to the criminal complaint, she said she would receive $9.75 an hour. instead the nanny said she was paid just over $3 an hour. that is three times less than new york's minimum wage of however it is about three time more than what the average domestic in india makes. >> the allegations are that the dr. khobragade lied to the federal government to obtain an a-3 visa to bring her here with no intent of paying the wages. they are living in the home with
their employer. if they leave, they not only leave their legal status. they leave their only source of income them leave the only home they've known in a foreign country. this is more than a labor dispute. >> reporter: the diplomat was arrested near her daughter's manhattan school and handed over to u.s. marshals. she was strip searched and put into general population with alleged criminals. she was given no special charges since the charges related to her personal life and not her consular functions will. >> once you hand over someone to the marshal service, they are being arrest asked there is no door for rich people and no door for poor people. everyone is arrested and equal before the law in the united states. >> reporter: martina vandenberg has been tracking consular abuse cases for the last decade. >> what's difference about this case, the department of justice stepped up and took these allegations, invested them thoroughly and decided they have enough information to indict the
case. >> reporter: according to the criminal complaint, the 39-year-old agreed to faye nanny $4,500 a month. however, a lawyer for the diplomat said that figure was dr. khobragade's salary. not the nanny's. >> she will be completely vindicated. >> reporter: lawyers for both said the attempts to settle it financially were unsuccessful. the charges come after a five-month investigation by the state department and tuesday attorney here in manhattan in june after working for the family for about eight months, the nanny decided to leave shelf went to an immigration lawyer. she is currently in new york. she is staying with friends. she has no passport. the u.s. government has given her a temporary legal status which means she can stay here and work until this is resolved. >> thank you. international correspondent is in new delhi. will secretary of state kerry's
comments do anything to quell the outrage? >> reporter: well, india is just waking up to news that secretary of state john kerry had called the national security adviser here to express his regret. it will help calm tensions? i think the feeling is that up until now, india has been really, really angry. india has been seething at the treatment handed out to its diplomat in new york saying it was humiliating, completely unaccepting. we saw protesters take to the streets outside the embassy here in new delhi yesterday. very angry, of course. we also heard from the indian prime minister who is usually very mild mannered and careful with his words. even he called it deplorable. there is a feeling, i think, on both sides with both countries that it really isn't in anyone's interests to let this spiral out of control. both countries need each other. especially now economically speaking.
they do need each other and it wouldn't make sense for these countries to take a giant step backwards when they've worked so hard at developing warmer and better relationships over the last ten to 12 years. there is a hope that secretary kerry's comments will help to calm tensions over here in india. >> all right. let's talk now to nicholas burns, the former secretary of state. he is a long time diplomat. nick, i want to get to the diplomacy of this in a second. first, let's talk about the elephant in the room. something that you know and i have covered. there are a number of foreign diplomats in this country who bring in individuals from other countries and keep them captive in the form of indentured servitude. paying them much less than the minimum wage. in some cases, it is almost like slavery. we don't know what happened but
that's a reality the u.s. is trying to crack down on. >> the state department is right to do that. i don't know the particulars in this case involving the indian diplomat in new york will but foreign diplomats who stay in the united states in new york or elsewhere, need to abide by u.s. law. especially when it is treating people with decency and respect. i think we see the clash of two political cultures. in the united states, the law always comes first. everybody always has to adhere to the law. in india, there is an emotional reaction. i think that's why secretary kerry called today. in his statement he carefully supported u.s. law and defended u.s. law. emhe empathized with the way this woman was treated. he said he had two daughters of a similar age. i think that's the right balance to strike between these two very polar opposite reactions in the united states and india. >> let's talk about india's
reaction. they've retaliated by removing security barriers outside the u.s. embassy in new delhi, revoking diplomatic i.d. cards. these could be steps putting american lives at risk. is that coming from the capitol of india? where does a reaction like that come from? >> reporter: it is coming from the foreign ministry. they've removed the barriers. it is an overreaction and not the appropriate reaction, obviously, by the indian government. i think secretary kerry's phone call is designed to diffuse this crisis and to get the united states back to what we're talking about. we are close friends and india is a very important ally for the united states. hopefully this can be diffused so we can go back to working on the very important issues on the agenda. >> how detrimental do you think this is in the long term?
>> i think it is very detrimental in the short term because of the extraordinary reaction in india. by average people in india. they very much feel insulted. not so much about the accusation that she may have violated american law but the way she was treated when she was in detention. i think this can pass, however. boy, there are big issues in our agenda. india and the united states have a similar concern about what will happen in afghanistan when the bulk of american troops leave. we are both struggling to find a way to work with china but also to send a stiff message to china that some of the more aggressive military actions in the south tolerated.hina sea won't be i would say india is one of the most important countries worldwide in terms of agenda. still to come, dennis rodman.
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and will not include president obama. the delegation will include billy jean king and cratin cahow. nicholas burns, still with us. greg, did you see? i have you on my other show, the lead, earlier today. does what the president is doing is a strong enough message from the u.s. to russia about its anti-gay laws or do you think it is in the passive aggressive zone? >> well, i think it is the right thing to do. and with billy jean king and brian boitano and the other delegates he is sending there, hopefully they can get a message out. you never know with how they're
going to treat any of the interviews with their own propaganda in russia. so hopefully they'll be able to make a difference and even just their presence there as openly gay people. i think that's a step in the right direction. >> nick, this is obviously something of a big statement to make to the russians with whom the u.s. has not enjoyed the warmest relations in the last few years. is it possible that this would make a bad situation even worse? >> i don't think so. i think the president did the right thing. he is sending two messages. president obama to president putin. message number one, the united states is going to uphold the rights of gay and lesbian athletes. i think message number two, we're just not getting along with putin right now. he is harboring edward snowden. he has been against us on syria, has blocked all the u.n. resolutions there. he has made life very difficult
for ukrainians. and for those who want a democratic future. i think the president's feelings is it is time to get tough with president putin and show president putin we can be definite about protecting our values. so for me, i think this is a positive step the president is taking. >> let's talk about this. president obama gets to be somewhat tough against a reliable american foe. and also gets to be pro gay rights. kind of a twofer. >> yeah. if you're playing domestic politics with the olympics, sure. this is not like sending jesse owens to hitler's germany to prove a point. it is a strong symbolic step. our trump card as a country is freedom and diversity. two thing russia is not known for. this is a strong symbolic step but it is just a symbolic step. that said i think it will draw attention. whether it plays domestic will in the polls, probably won't even register. is it the right thing to do? hell yes.
>> let's go to another issue, interest. north korea. i want to ask you. it is a bizarre story but dennis rodman is arriving in north korea tomorrow. he obviously has a relationship with the leader, kim jong-un and an op ed, the only person known to have escaped from a north korean labor camp wrote to rodman saying maybe you can use your friendship and your time together to make him understand that he has the power to close the camps and rebuild the country's economy so everyone afford to eat. do you agree with that? is there any real influence rodman has? and could exert? >> there is no influence that dennis rodman can bring to bear to improve the situation. when we travel abroad, we're not representing our government but we are representing our country. we should want to represent the dignity of the united states. and the north korean dictator,
that's all he is, a tyrant and dictator, he is holding an american citizen as hodge right now. he just released an 85-year-old american from prison and held him unjustly and he is the person who just, in a mafia style execution, killed his own uncle. so for dennis rodman to cavort with a dictator strikes me as plain wrong. >> i want to bring in a fellow athlete. you coming out of the closet, talking about being hiv positive. you have tried to use your name for good. obviously what dennis rodman is doing, completely different and not comparable. but in the sense of trying to use your fame, your notoriety to achieve something positive, what do you think of what dennis rodman is doing?
>> well, dennis rodman is dennis rodman. you never know, you know, where he's coming from any way. so you know, for my own personal belief, trying to use sharing myself as a whole person. i'm a gay man living with hiv. i happen to be an olympian. the one thing that really concerns me about the whole sochi thing is that the ioc is totally ignoring principle six which is anti-discrimination. and that's very, very disturbing. and the thing that i'm concerned about is the children. there are gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender children born in russia every day. who is protecting those children? i feel all children need to be protected and nurtured. i'm an athlete. i'm not a world leader and i'm not going to pretend to be. i'm not always up on what's happening in the world. so i just go about my business
of living and you know, i take my medicine in the morning and the evening which reminds me that i have hiv. but most of my life is devoted to the part of living. >> john, this is now dennis rodman's third trip. is the u.s. getting anything out of this? >> there's certainly no sign of it. he is completely misusing his celebrity. he is dignifying a dictator and ultimately it is a holiday in other people's misery. there is no evidence we're get go any leverage. there was talk of his love of basketball. it doesn't seem to have civilized him so the actions don't really speak to that home for reform. >> all right. thank you so much. if i don't see you, have a merry christmas to all of you. still to come, a presidential panel recommends major changes. will the agency really give up some powers? and a woman who claims she was treated like a slave by a
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changes may, i repeat, may be college to the nsa controversial spying program. an outside panel requested by president obama suggested more transparency in the mass storage of americans' phone records. but is that going to be enough? chief national correspondent jim sciutto has the details. >> reporter: already battered by stinging headlines day after day over nsa spying. today the panel the president himself ordered recommends the nsa be subject to stronger accountability and transparency. what the panel does not recommend is dismantling the
program that sparked the most controversy in the u.s. the gathering of billions of bites of meta data of phone calls. instead the panel made up of intelligence and legal experts recommends congress pass legislation requiring phone companies to hold the data rather than being held by the nsa. and that the nsa be limited to gathering foreign intelligence on foreign targets. >> the message to the nsa is now coming from every branch of government from every corner of our nation. nsa, you've gone too far. >> reporter: to help restore u.s. credibility abroad, the panel suggests sweeping reform including striking agreements with allies such as france and germany on what spying among friends is acceptable and what is not. the panel says monitoring the foreign leaders by the nsa should require approval directly from the white house. the report follows a bruising meeting at the white house tuesday with executives from the
country's largest tech companies. sources tell cnn's jim acosta, several said they flew to washington to voice their concern on government surveillance. hurting their bottom line abroad to the tune of $35 billion in lost business. several were frustrated with the white house's focus on the troubled healthcare.gov website. sources said the president said one thing he is not considering is a pardon for edward snowden. i spoke to a senior official who said the white house knows it has a trust gap. here at home with the american public but also overseas. that that gap has consequences. cost to american businesses, cost to american credibility. the president will look at these recommendations, choose which ones he is going to accept and i'm will, he is likely to make a speech in january to the american public on a new transparency for nsa surveillance. >> that's the policy. now let's get to the politics.
the president is trying to calm the outrage over the nsa spying programs. do you think it will work? >> we'll see what he ends up doing. we won't know until january. the president is rightly focused on striking this very difficult balance. i think what we need to stop doing is treating the american people like the jack nicholson character on a few good men. they can handle the truth as long as the administration is transparent, is above board and understands what the parameters are, i think that the president will be going, will be taking a step in the right direction. but by the way, industry needs to do the same as well. these recommendations say while the nsa shouldn't be keeping this, it doesn't say that we shouldn't be doing it at all of it says industry should be keeping it. >> so the president obviously has a trust deficit in the way he never has in his entire career. more people according to recent polls don't trust him than do trust him. that is a big hit for people.
do you think the way they've handled the nsa scandal is part of the problem? or is it just the nsa scandal. the idea that all these things were going on. >> the scandal is just one more example of how the president's trust relationship with the american people has eroded on issue after issue. and because he hasn't had a lot of accomplishments, a lot of things to hang his hat on and say this is how to improve the economy or past immigration reform. these are nicks and cuts. the trust thing was not just brought up by the media. the guys who went to the ceo meeting at the white house the other day with the high-tech firms, they put in it his face. the president thought he was going to a photo op. and they said mr. president, we don't know if we trust you. that was the big news out of that event. >> that i think the important thing is that while the president says that we absolutely need to protect the
privacy of americans, he has said from the very beginning that he is not going to compromise on the security piece. which i think is making a lot of liberals and civil libertarians upset. i think at the end of the day, the american people do agree that we cannot really have both. this is an incredibly important story because there is that balance that we need to find. but i think in essence, the american people know that they have been spied upon. >> there is a bipartisan concern here. if you're a conservative and you don't trust this government, you just say, oh, my gosh. this is just like the irs where they were, you know, turning people's lives over for their own government policies. if you're a liberal, you were promised freedom and liberty and civil liberties that have been undermined. so this isn't a party line issue. >> that's true. there's bipartisan support.
>> you have to always operate on this. >> when you're talking about security versus liberty, ultimately don't hear john boehner, your former boss, complaining about these nsa programs. he is actually a very strong supporter of them. and the same with a lot of republicans will yes, you have the rand pauls, jerks like me covering it. the bottom line is, i think the american people honestly want security over freedom. i really. do when it comes down to these little things. >> i think that's true. >> that's a generalization. >> yeah. people on both sides that will disagree with that. but i think that this is why it is so important for the administration to be transparent in january. to see what they will accept or not accept. then see. even though this isn't one of those issues where the american
people are outraged. i don't think they are. and it is a bipartisan issue that people agree. on it is important for this president to be very transparent about this. >> i want to get your response to something senator ran paul brought up. the director of national intelligence, james clapper. >> i think what our government is doing is unconstitutional. and i really think that in order to restore confidence in our intelligence community, i think james clapper should resign. >> should he resign? would that do anything to restore this trust deficit? >> well, you can throw a body over the side but i'm not sure that does anything for the president. i'm not sure that it fundamentally changes the policy direction of the country. the cia has been an effective tool in our war against terrorism. i know we don't call it a war anymore. but without them we probably wouldn't have gotten bin laden. and fundamentally, the policies stay in place. it is a question of how the president handles it. the level of transparency this government continues to offer
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the patriarch of the duck dynasty is taking on what he says is one of society's greatest sins, homosexuality. in an interview he discussed his deeply held religious views on how the secularization of america has encouraged sinful behavior, starting with gay behavior and morphing to bestiality and infidelity. he also weighed in on how happy african-americans seemed to him before the civil rights era. will his words hurt one of the most popular tv shows in america? tom foreman has the story. i want to warn you, this piece does contain some language that some people might find objectionable.
>> with their show pulling 14 million viewers a week work an empire of dvds, duck calls and a christmas album too, it is no surprise gq magazine wanted to profile the duck dynasty crew at home in louisiana. >> he's happy. >> but the bible quoting patriarch of the family is raising eyebrows with his comments on homosexuality. >> they needs to step out and condemn statements. >> wilson cruz and other gay rights advocates are hitting back hard, citing growing acceptance of same sex marriage and relationships to suggest
robinson is ignorant, bigoted or both. >> the world is changing. the country is changing and even the state in which mr. robertson lives is changing and he needs to get in line. >> it makes you wonder how we got roped into this. >> i don't know. >> but others say hold on. robertson was quoting widely supported church positions on sin, not just homosexuality. when he told gq, the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes the homosexual offenders. >> i think suggesting people who hold to what every branch of the christian faith has held to for 2,000 years are somehow bigoted or hateful is not productive for speech. >> whether this battle on the bayou will harm the duck dynasty dynasty is not clear. for many fans, the appeal has long been that the robinsons speak openly about their conservative values.
>> theo, be nicer. >> and there is this. polls show about 44% of all americans like phil robertson, still think homosexuality is morally wrong. we got a statement through a&e. he said i would never treat anyone with disrespect just because they're different from me. we are all created by the almighty and like him, i love all of humanity. i'm sure that won't quiet all the kerfuffle down but an interesting pushback on this. >> also some interesting remarks in the gq story. he explained yes thinks african americans were happy prior to the civil rights movement saying i never heard one black person say, i tell you what. those dog gone white people, not a word. preentitlement, were they happy? they were godly. they were happy. no one was singing the blues. that's not quite a longing for the jim crow era but it is certainly a comment that i think a lot of african americans would dispute.
>> i understand why many people would find this offensive. i think with that particular statement you have to read the whole statement. he begins by saying basically, when i grew up, where i grew up. and having many members of my family from the south, there are many, many places in the south where everyone, white and black, lived in tremendous poverty. and had a very difficult time. and there was very much a sense that people said, hey, we're all suffering together. some may suffer more but we're all suffering together and he specified, in my place in my time this is what i saw. and remember, it's easy now with the internet and television and everything to think we all have a bigger picture. many people just a few generations back, they really didn't have a bigger picture. they had the picture of their backyard. so while people may find that very offensive now or think it is very insensitive now, i've heard many people over the years say similar things. where i lived in my time, everyone was poor. everyone struggled and they don't mean it in a racist way. they mean that everybody struggled.
>> in terms of his comments about homosexuality, there are million of americans that have those religious views that all sorts of behaviors are sinful. >> a lot of them make the point of saying, look. this is a fine point that i think a lot of gay rights advocates may disagree with. they will say they are condemning what they consider sinful activity but not the people. the saying is hate the sin, love the sinner. and i think you're hearing more language, particularly in the religious community of people saying, look, in the religious community, do not condemn homosexual people or gay people. condemn the activity if you feel it is wrong. >> to be continued. there will be a lot more of a response from groups and a & e. still to come, another diplomat allegedly abusing his power. and will ferrell coming up later in the show. [ male announcer ] this store knows how to handle a saturday crowd.
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>> reporter: tuesday attorney who has been monitoring the coverage in the united states and abroad set the record straight on a couple of things. first of all, he wanted to make clear that in fact the deputy consul general, devyani khobragade was treated with certain courtesies not afforded to other people. he made clear that she was not arrested in front of her kids. she was not handcuffed, as some reports have suggested. her phone was not seized. she was allowed to keep it. and actually allowed to make phone call from the back of a car because it was cold outside. so she could arrange childcare for the daughter that she had just dropped off at school. in terms of the strip search, that's really one of the things that has outraged the indian community. the u.s. attorney made clear, he said, quote, it is clear that she was fully searched by a female deputy marshal in a private setting when she was
brought into the u.s. marshal's custody. this is standard practice for every defendant, rich or poor, american or not, in order to make sure that no prisoner keeps anything on his person that could harm anyone including himself. so really it is about the treatment of this diplomat that he addresses. but he also talks about the victim. the victim in this case saying that the family has been brought to the united states but also the family it seems was being treated unfairly in india. that's one of the reasons they were brought here to join this woman. jake? >> all right. thank you so much. the housekeeper in this case claims she got paid just $3 an hour. way below minimum wage. if so she may be part of a growing trend in the united states. household employees abused by their former diplomat bosses. behind the ornate doors of some of the most exclusive embassies in washington, d.c. lurks a dark secret. foreign diplomats abusing workers in their homes. domestic servants forced into
lives of servitude, even slavery. and they often get away with it invoking a policy called diplomatic immunity prevents them from being prosecuted in a foreign country. >> it happens miles from the white house in washington, d.c. >> reporter: the ambassador directs the state department's office to monitor and combat trafficking in persons. >> we hear way too many stories from around the world of diplomats who think that they have carte blanche to treat their servants badly. >> translator: i thought about dying. >> reporter: one victim, rosemary from peru whose nightmare began in 2008 when she was hired by a peruvian diplomat to work for him while stationed in the u.s. she was told she would be at this house in which the diplomat no longer lives. that she would work 40 hours a week at $1,500 a month. >> how much did they end up paying you? >> translator: 300 a month. >> $300 a month.
>> reporter: but the paltry wages were the least of it. the treatment was abusive. >> do you think that they treated you like a slave? >> translator: yes, because i worked from 5:30 a.m. when i woke up until 11:30 or midnight every single day. they asked me to give them massages every day to both of them. even foot massages. he would touch my legs and ask to see me in a bikini. >> reporter: she said the diplomat confiscated her passport. rosemary thought she was trapped. >> you were afraid you had to do everything they told you to do? >> translator: they threatened me with hurting my family if i left. they also threatened to call immigration to get me deported. >> reporter: rosemary's story unfortunately quite common. the issue was looked into in 2008 and found in recent years, 42 domestic workers officially alleged they were abused by their former employers and they said the actual number of victims is
rescued two women from the philippines from a multi-million dollar house owned by the saudi embassy who held their passports and forced them into lives of servitude. an investigation is underway. martina represents a victim just awarded $1 million after being abused by a tanzania diplomat here. >> the diplomats have total immunity, which means you cannot investigate them appropriately. you cannot arrest them. you cannot question them. it's almost impossible to do an investigation that would lead to a waiver of immunity to actually prosecute them in the united states. >> reporter: in this case, with the help of the group casa de maryland, she pressed charges against the diplomat that claims she's making everything up.
he also claimed diplomatic immunity, and the case has gone nowhere. he says he's innocent and blames martel for blaming the legal system. they look at human trafficking in the u.s. and the state department is just started briefing domestic workers brought here by giving them pamphlets with information. >> you have rights in the united states. even if they can take your passport and lock it up back home, even if they could take your money back home, they shouldn't, but in the united states if they do that, they are committing a crime. >> reporter: after two years of what she describes as slavery, rosemary martel said she recovered and is building a life. >> translator: now i'm happy.
i have my six-year-old baby she is my happiness. i'm happy because i'm working with a group of women to let them know their rights so the them things that happened to me, don't happen to them. >> a few minutes ago we told you about the story of phil robertson, the duck dynasty clan being in hot water for comments he made about homosexuality. what's the news? >> we got word from a and e network and they said they are disappointed by what he said and all the fans, you'll note the network placed phil under hiatus from filming indefinitely this is very, very big news and i'm sure we'll hear a lot about this tomorrow. >> one of the most popular shows in american television. still to come, my interview with the anchor man, will ferrell. they don't know it yet, but they're gonna fall in love, get married, have a couple of kids, [ children laughing ] move to the country, and live a long, happy life together where they almost never fight about money. [ dog barks ] because right after they get married, they'll find some financial folks who will talk to them about preparing early for retirement
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i'm ron? no, it is this guy. >> the sound byte that launched a franchise. >> i liked women but i wasn't sure their place was sitting beside me on an anchor sit. that's crim. >> was the for us sitting here. >> reporter: we sat down in washington d.c. in an exhibit dedicated to the film. >> this must trippy. museum dedicated to the film. >> it's bizarre. they did a beautiful job of archiving the old news stations and news teams, and we weren't far off the mark without even knowing it. >> i didn't realize, first of all, how much paul rod's character, his entire wardrobe
is geraldo. >> i said this is the best film of the decade. >> you're wrong. i think it's "booty call". >> go ahead. >> it's more than ten years ago. >> you're right. >> the '90s. i keep a list starting in '04s. >> it's timeless so i throw it into many different time periods. >> i love scotch, that is good. >> it wasn't initially received as what it's become. >> no, it was a modest hit in the theaters when it first came out, and it was actually very divisive. some would say that was the funniest thing and others say i didn't get it. i had a friend that went on a double date and the other couple left.
it has a legendary status, but it definitely didn't start that way. >> we're starting a 24-hour news channel and we want you. >> it was the beginning of the 24-hour channels, and we kind of find ron and his team and what they are doing, and they are kind of given second chance to get back into the news game by going on the brand-new 24-hour news channel. >> welcome to gnn. >> it's called gnn. >> so it's -- >> completely different. >> completely different. >> right. >> i don't have any legs, ron.
>> what better to see ron and his incompetent fellow news team try to compete with what is now pretty much modern day news. >> is there anybody that ron burgundy is modelled after? >> all the local news guys i watched growing up, even though you run into people in local news, and they say i bet i know who that is based on. everyone owns it. there is a guy in l.a. herold green in san diego, went to l.a. used to have a mustache and i randomly ran into him on the street one day and he said that movie is based on me, isn't it? i go no. he said there is an old saying in the news game, yeah, right, so he walked away. he was convinced it was based on him. >> that's a good line. >> yeah. >> is there something about my profession that is inherently -- >> it's a profession based on being serious, having good hair -- your hair looks great.
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