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being with us, talking about this. >> the second interview airs tonight on "a.c. 360." check it out at 8:00 p.m. eastern. >> "legal view" with ashleigh banfield start, right now. an admitted convicted child rapest could have been given 20 years for forcing himself on a 14-year-old girl at school. but instead this judge passed judgment on the victim. and decided her attacker deserved days instead of decades behind bars. we'll tell you what the judge thought of the victim. also this hour, the blade runner murder trial back in session with oscar pistorius' neighbor among the first on the bloody scene telling the court "i saw the truth that morning." and a twisted terror group that kidnapped more than 200
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schoolgirls now threatening to sell them on the open market. yes, i said sell them. as punishment for daring to defy sharia law by getting a western education. hello, everyone, i'm ashleigh banfield. the ordeal of more than 200 girls abducted from their nigerian school three weeks ago just became even more horrifying. a video was just released showing the man who claims to be the leader of a terror group called boko haram. that group is claiming responsibility for stealing those girls. have a look. [ speaking foreign language ]
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>> it is unconscionable. i just want to read a couple parts of this outrageous statement. it says, i abducted your girls. there is a market for selling humans. allah says i should sell. he commands me to sell. i will sell women. i sell women. his words made even more disturbing by his tone. he was laughing at times throughout the statement. the group claiming to be behind the mass kidnapping is called boko haram. the state department designated boko haram as a terrorist organization in november of last year. they are responsible for government and civilian targets over the last several years. one attack killed 160 innocent civilians s is in september 20.
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boko haram's name translates literally to western education is a sin. the group opposes education of women under its version of sharia law. cnn's isha asay is in nigeria. just get me up to speed on what is happening today and what the government is doing about this. >> hi there, ashleigh. that is the question that we are on the ground trying to get clear answers on. what is the nigerian government doing to find these 200-plus girls that were snatched from their bed almost three weeks ago now in the middle of the night from their school there in northeastern nigeria. actually, an important point we need to make clear to our viewers, the school, that town, was under a state of emergency, so there was a mobilization of large numbers of nigerian military in that area.
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and yet boko haram for all intents and purposes were able to move into that school and take those girls and they have not been seen since. it is a great disappointment on the part of many the nigerian government has not spelled out what exactly they're doing to find these girls it the president spoke on television for the first time since this happened on sunday, yesterday, in which he said they were doing their utmost to find these girls but, ashleigh, they do not know where they are. three weeks on, they don't know where these girls are. all he could give in form of operational detail, they're using helicopters, they're using aircraft to scan the area. we don't know whether they have foot troops. we don't know where they are right now. we don't know numbers. so much that has not been answered. ashleigh. >> isha sesay. ka could you explain why he is
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on tv saying somehow the family of these girls have been this rt wh thwarting the efforts to find these girls? there's a good reason for this, isn't there? >> yeah, i mean, there are multiple reasons that could factor into this. there's this whole issue of trust. a lack of trust between people there in the northern part of nigeria -- at least some people and the nigerian government. the federal government. you have to remember the federal government declared a state of emergency in this area some months ago and has been accused by some human rights groups human rights violations as they go after boko haram, using widespread violence. there's kind of a breakdown of trust between some and the government. but there's also another point. there are those parents, we have been told, who are afraid to give that information, the names of their kids and photos, because they fear boko haram could be watching places like cnn, could be paying attention
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to the media, and if it is brought out these are their children, these children that are already in captivity will be further victimized. there's a lot of fear, there's a lot of mistrust, there are many issues. what i will tell you, that will not have gone over well with a lot of nigerians, to hear the president say their issues have been hampered by the parents when really it is their job to use intelligence and use all the means at their disposal to find these girls. >> reporting live for us from nigeria, thank you for that. i also want to touch base now recording this clash between sharia law and western law and culture. with fareed zakaria, host of "gps" on cnn, as well as commentator and defense attorney mel robins. this may sound new to some in the american audience this group boko haram. this is not new to anybody in this part of the world. they have been striking fear into the hearts of people in nigeria and beyond for some time
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now. are they al qaeda affiliated? is there something larger to their network? >> they're not al qaeda affiliated but they have, as you say, they're very dangerous, they've been around for a while. northern nigeria's highly unstable because of this. this is largely a power grab. these are groups, gangs, really, that are trying to wrest control of areas from the nigerian government. you watch that guy and you look at how he's dressing. this is a sort of military fatigue operation where they operate like guerrillas. they're not sitting around praying a lot as far as i can tell. but they use the language of islam and they use the language of a kind of extreme sharia as a way to gain legitimacy. unfortunately, this is what you always see, when you see these kind of islamist extremists, there is a very strong anti-female aspect to them. whenever they have a voice, whenever they come into power, the first thing they want to do is to stop women from going to school, to get women to cover
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themselves. so there's a lot of this which seems like a lot of young angry men who want to have control over their lives in a world maybe where things are going out of control and the one thing they know they want to do is control women. >> so this started 12 years ago. the founder has since died. but the essence was to sort of get a stricter form of sharia law. it's not a story that we haven't heard elsewhere in the law. we hear about this a lot. why did they get traction? how are they able to perpetrate over 200 girls in the middle of the night in a convey, disappearing into the woods? how does this happen? it can't happen anywhere else, you would think. >> it's a great question. the think we have to remember is nigeria, you hear a lot about it, it's this big oil producing country. it has just, actually this week, sur passed south africa as the richest economy in africa. the state doesn't function the way we would think, you know, a normal state does. so, you know, as you just heard,
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there was a state of emergency in this area. but of course that means nothing. the state does not have proper policing. it does not even -- the army is not particularly good. these people, the boko haram people are ruthless. they will kill merslessly. that's why, again, some of the parents don't want to talk because -- >> they're terrified. >> this is very much the way the taliban does it in afghanistan. they terrify people. it's not that people support them, but they know that the cost of opposing them is death. the cost of opposing the government is, you know -- >> that is terror defined. can you just explain legally speaking, sharia law and culture? because there's a big difference between law and culture especially when it comes to the west. >> when you're talking about a rogue group like this, you're talking not about laws that have been enacted but more of words that people are using. they're using terror and fear. you asked a question, how could they disappear? they attacked a government
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school in the middle of the night. this is a very remote region that this terrorist group already controls. there are no cell phone signals. there is already great fear up there. and so of course they were able to do this because they're already controlling the area and nobody wants to go up there for fear they're going to get killed and you're right about these families. i wouldn't show my daughter on television for fear that guy laughing on the tape would be pulling her out and making her an example to the world of just how serious he is. >> questions people have when they hear about the sheer numbers and the terror of him suggesting they will all be sold into some kind of slavery if not false marriages. is there any chance that we will see these girls again, that they will be rescued, that they will be found, that other countries that are neighboring could at least help in those fringe areas? >> look, we have to hope. i think you can't imagine the fate for these poor girls, but
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boko haram is ruthless, it has a bad history. it is not a group that negotiates that much because their demands are essentially a kind of -- they're crazy. they're sort of -- they want all of nigeria to follow, you know, the strict sharia law. remember, nigeria has lots and lots of christians. so this is not -- this is not as though -- it has no support, no traction. a very tough situation, we just have to hope. >> i want to draw people's attention to the screen. protests all around the world. #bringbackour girls. if you want to be a part of the conversation. just some of the places where these protests happened, in london, in los angeles. it is a movement -- in washington -- that is getting a lot of traction. secretary of state having visited as well and weighing in on this. but we will continue to follow this story.
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#bringbackourgirls. fareed zakaria, thank you. mel, stick around, a couple other questions for you. the case out of texas, a judge's word about a 14-year-old rape victim. i'm going to save it for her own words and how they make you feel. but here they are. during commercial, ponder this. she's not the victim she claimed to be. again, a 14-year-old rape victim. and an admitted rapist. the legal view on that next. defiance is in our bones. defiance never grows old. citracal maximum. calcium citrate plus d. highly soluble, easily absorbed. [ male announcer ] if you can clear a table [ sneezes ] without lifting a finger, you may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec® for powerful allergy relief. and zyrtec® is different than claritin® because it starts working faster
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the crime itself was outrageous. an 18-year-old high school student rapes a 14-year-old student at school. admitting, quote, she kept saying no and stop but i just
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didn't stop. but then came the trial. and a 45-day jail sentence. and some incomprehensible comments about the young victim from none other than the judge herself. dallas county judge ja known howard told the dallas morning newspaper she considered medical records that purport to show the victim had had sex before and, in her words, she said this victim had even given birth. that's in dispute. quote, she wasn't the victim she claimed to be. he is not your typical sex offender. she, the victim, says she's never been pregnant and has never felt more betrayed. >> i was shocked that a judge, someone that i trusted with this case would go behind my back and make these allegations that she knows nothing about. >> a couple of lawyers cannot wait to weigh in on this.
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mel robbins, defense attorney, cnn commentator. paul kallen is a former u.s. prosecutor, cnn analyst. jean casarez, a lawyer herself, cnn correspondent, working the story today. before i ask any question, in addition to jail and probation, the judge initially ordered the offender to work 250 hours, ready, at a dallas rape crisis center. let that germinate for a bit. listen to what the director of that center had to say about that. >> i'm sure that she probably thought it was his way of, you know, giving back perhaps but it's just not an appropriate place for him to do his community supervision. just having a criminal defendant in the office could be a triggering effect for many of our clients. ? so that part of the sentence was scrapped. we don't know what other issues
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of the probation will be. a lot of this is just straight-up fact, jean casarez, just straight-up fact, the kind that most people don't believe can happen in our system of jurisprudence today. >> let's look at the facts. they were both students at a high school. and he was 18, she was 14. and they had talked about having sex. and she had agreed to it. but she said, i don't want to do it at school. so what does he do? he forces himself on her at school. she repeatedly says no. there's no issue that he committed rape. he committed rape. he pleaded guilty right before jury selection was supposed to begin. the issues -- >> he not only pleaded guilty -- let's call it what it is. he said in his statement, i just did it, i couldn't believe it, i was shocked. she was bleeding. he was upset that that is what he caused to happen. there was a lot to his statement that was so clear, there was no question this was a rape. he knew he'd done it as soon as he done it.
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he felt bad about it. she was crying. i mean, it's astounding this isn't anything more than what it actually is, a rape that has nothing to do with the victim. >> but some of that probably came to help him in sentencing. accepting the responsibility. >> let me talk about that for a minute. mel robins and paul kallen, sentencing sometimes can be light depending on what jean just said. sometime there's a great deal of contrition. sometime, there's a great deal of apologies. sometimes these things are really important. you don't have a billing criminal background like this young man. but the things the judge said, that sometimes just never happen, does it, mel? >> well, it may happen. but it's shocking a judge would open her mouth and actually talk ton the press about the fact that she considered the victims purported sexual history in deciding what the sentence should be. i don't have a problem with the sentence itself. he's going to be registered as a lifetime sex offender. i think you have to take things be on a case-by-case basis.
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he did show remorse. there's a lot she could have considered. this is why i hope she's unemployed very soon. she said that based on the medical records, press, i got a 14-year-old who's not the victim you think she is. she's had three sexual partners. she's had a baby. now the victim has come out and say none of this is true. >> is it ever mentioned at all, if the rapest was a virgin, never. >> i disagree with mel, i have a major problem with this sentence. this case is a clear-cut case of rape. she's only 14 years old. by the way, when you look at the fact pattern, you say, maybe the girl was sort of saying no but with her actions saying yes to him. well, if you read his statement -- >> there's no question. >> she said no, no, no. >> stop, stop. >> at every point. then when it was over, he said, i can't believe i did that to her. this is a clear-cut rape. clear-cut rapes deserve lengthy jail sentences. so this is an absurd disposition
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of this case. >> the judge apparently also -- was it a spur of the moment decision to give him the community service at a rape crisis center? who does this? >> well, obviously, we've never heard of it before. the point was to clean the floors and to clean the toilets. however, it's something that i don't think any of us ever heard of. i want to say there's 25 points here on his probation that he has to comply with. and one of registered sex offender. >> there's some serious probation here. he has to serve some time every anniversary for the next five years. this kid could have had 20 years. the young woman, just close this way, she now says she regrets coming forward at all. god help anybody after her who hears this story and says, i don't want any judge saying that about me. i think, mel, you said it earlier. that judge could face civil action. >> i hope she does, she deserves it. >> if that young girl had never
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been pregnant before and that judge public blah size eized th >> when you give a press conference, you waive immunity. >> thank you, all. stick around, the trial for blade runner oscar pistorius might have been on hiatus but it is back on track and it picked up right where it left off, with emotional testimony, weeping and crying in court. pistorius himself in tears. on the stand today, the first person he called after shooting his girlfriend dead and what that witness said on the stand about hi. are you ready grandma? just a second, sweetie. [ female announcer ] we eased your back pain, you turned up the fun. tylenol® provides strong pain relief while being gentle on your stomach. but for everything we do, we know you do so much more. tylenol®. how much money do you think you'll need when you retire?
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who's the first person you would call if you committed the biggest mistake of your life, shooting and killing someone you love? when pistorius shot his girlfriend to death, he didn't call the police first, he called the manager of his gated community and claimed he thought his girlfriend was a burglar. the olympian returned to court today. he was greeted by a supporter who hugged him. that's nice. as robyn curnow reports, it was the two others on the stand whose impact was far more important, and whose testimony tore the blade runner apart. >> i saw the truth that morning. i saw it. and i feel it. >> reporter: in an attempt to prove steenkamp's death was a
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tragic mistake, pistorius defense team calling the manager of the gated community. >> he begd god to keep her alive. >> reporter: the first person he called the night he shot and killed his girlfriend. >> come to my house, please, i shot reeva, i thought she was an intruder. >> reporter: he and his daughter were also the first to walk inside pistorius' home moments after she was shot four times. he says pistorius had the expression of innocence. >> the expression on his face, the expression of sorrow, the expression of pain. >> reporter: pistorius, head in hands, as the witness described the olympian pleading for help. >> he was begging me to take her to the hospital. >> reporter: the olympian's defense team attempting to bounce back from a grueling cross examination two weeks ago. jud >> your life is just about you. >> reporter: grilled byes prosecutor for five days.
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>> you shot and killed her. won't you take responsibility for that? >> i did my lady. >> why are you getting emotional now? >> i did not fire at reeva. >> reporter: now doggedly pressing the athlete on his version of events and willing to believe the shooting was anything less than murder. >> reeva doesn't have a life anymore because of of what you've done. >> reporter: oscar pistorius again emotional in court, head in hands, crying often, as monday's witnesses described his state of mind almost immediately after the shooting. saying he was begging, pleading, praying, for reeva steenkamp to stay alive. robyn curnow, cnn, pretoria. >> defense attorney mel robbins and cnn legal analyst paul kallen and former prosecutor. apart from the tears making a big splash at this day in court, there was something i thought that was significant.
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the prosecutor under cross examination was able to get this witness, this estate manager, through the tears and all the rest, to admit that, in fact, oscar pistorius didn't say to him he'd accidentally done it because he thought his girlfriend was an intruder, that is something he added to the story. big when you're dealing with a judge who is deciding fact. >> that's an enormous concession, ashleigh, to get in a cross examination. i mean, he's throwsing a defense into his view of the evidence. it's not there. he's making it up. >> tells you what kind of guy he is is big supporter. >> of course he's a big supporter. this is like having elvis live in your condo development. the most famous athlete in south africa. of course he's going to be on his side. >> i always say friends and family, well, are lovely. they don't count. they might count for a jury who's never been to this rodeo before. >> depends what they say. >> this is a judges who has been to this rodeo times before. you can't sway with crocodile
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tears a lady who knows the law. you think it matters, all this emotion? >> i think it matters an enormous amount. the witness today broke down on the stand as he was describing not only pistorius reaction and so did his daughter who had accompanied him to the scene. she was describing what was going on with reeva's injuries and trying to save her. pistorius being too the stand and then he was pummeled on cross examination for five days. so watt defense is trying to do with these witnesses -- >> rehab. >> -- is rebuild all of the main points. which is it was a mistake. this is an enormous accident he never meant to have happen. i think the witnesses were effective today. >> would you come back at this notion that you're right, oscar pistorius was devastated because he realized he shouldn't have gotten that angry. >> well, i absolutely wouldn't. in new york, when i was a homicide prosecutor, we used to ride and go to homicide scenes. let me tell you, it's very
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emotional. whether you know the people involved or not to see the carnage. the fact he's crying. murder is frequently a crime of passion. this was a murder case involving -- a killing involving a girlfriend and oscar pistorius. so of course he's going to be emotional in the aftermath of it. he knows he's made a mistake and he knows his life is destroyed. cry me a river. doesn't mean he's innocent. >> i say a lot of the tears are real, it's where you place those tears. whether you are so sorry for what you did by making a mistake or sorry for getting so mad you overreacted. stay tuned. we're getting some brand-new information about that terrible accident at the circus over the weekend. a group of acrobats falling in the middle of a live awe inspiring stunt called the human chandelier. we've got the very latest details on what went wrong and how those performers are doing. [ female announcer ] it's simple physics...
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some new information this hour on the cause of that terrible circus accident over the weekend in providence, rhode island. a representative from the occupational safety and health administration tells cnn a clamp malfunction caused nine acrobats to plunge to the ground. the apparatus, called the human chandelier, holding a group of female acrobats by their hair, collapsed, and it sent all them crashing to the floor during their performance.
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11 people in total were injured. nine of them were the performers. it's unclear, the two others must have been on the ground. cnn has confirmed eight of them are still hospitalized this morning. ringling brothers has canceled its performances today in light the incident. cnn's alexandria field reports on this accident. some people may find this video disturbing. >> reporter: a circus act goes horribly wrong. eight acrobats suspended by their hair more than two stories above ground suddenly plunge when the apparatus holding them fails. 11 people were injured, one critically. >> at this point, it doesn't appear to be life threatening, but there are serious injuries from that height and fall. >> reporter: the fall, a frightening sight for the thousands of pspectators, including many children. >> they thought it might be part of the show, but then soon
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realized. >> the whole -- on top of everybody. it was scary. >> reporter: promotional video shows what the stunt is supposed to look like, one of the highlights of ringling brothers barnum and bailey's legends show. >> we will do whatever it takes to come to the bottom of this, make sure that when the show goes to perform again, it's safe. >> reporter: the spokesman for the circus is calling it unprecedented because of the number of performers who were hurt. that spokesperson says none of the acrobats is in life threatening condition. ashleigh. >> alexandria field, thank you. joining me is cnn commentator and defense attorney mel robbins and paul kallen. two areas. either one can choose your favorite topic. number one, obviously if the performers feel like they were wronged by the equipment, maybe
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they can sue. isn't it a dangerous thing you do to start with? that's the first question. the second question, i'm there with my 5 year and my 5-year-old witnesses this, can i sue because of what we've gone through. pick your topic. >> i'll start with you're there with your child. most people would think oh, my god, to have witnessed this, the child will be traumatized forever, will never want to go to a circus again, may have psychiatric problems. lawyers call it a zone danger action. where you witness an accident, have you been harmed by witne witnessing the accident? in most states, such an action is not permitted unless, one, you're seriously injured that is, the bystander is seriously injured, and, two, a relative of the person, the bystander, was involved in the accident. if you just see a stranger get hurt, you can't bring a cause of action. so i say in this case bystanders won't have the right to bring a lawsuit. >> okay, mel, i decide to hang from my hair 30 feet up and spin
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around. hanging with other people as well. and something goes wrong with the gear. don't i assume some of the responsibility when i do death-defying stuff and then give up my right -- >> your hair's not long enough -- >> the hair didn't attach. i mean, what happened is we had an equipment failure. i think there are certain types of accidents that you presume might happen if you're in this line work and there's workers comp to take care of that. this is a situation where they're performing a stunt and it was an equipment failure. if they can prove there was something wrong with the equipment or the way it was assembled, maybe it was a union involved at the dunkin' donuts center. they might have a tort action. workman's comp in rhode island preclude them from suing? >> you can only collect when you get injured on the job. >> they were definitely on the
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job. >> their job is very, very dangerous. >> but it's not to fall from the sky because of the equipment breaking. >> if your job happens to be hanging from your hair, it's still your job. so it's workman's cormp. if there was an equipment failure, whoever sold to the circus, sold the defective piece of metal, they can sue the equipment manufacturer. you make more money in those lawsuits than -- >> i'd like to see paul try to do that, hang from your hair up there, paul. >> that is very cruel of you, you know, to say -- >> i think you look fabulous. >> you could be the tumbler. >> the tumbler? how about a wrestler? >> that's the best joke ever on this set. >> he can take it. paul is the best. he can take it. he's smarter than me so i got to hit below the belt. >> i'm always surrounded by a lot of hair on this show. >> not from me, my darling. i really put you to work today. we'll see you again shortly. paul, mel, thank you for that. i'm going to move overseas to some other news we're
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today's flash point is slavantsk where the government today apparently lost a helicopter in the process. cnn's nick patton walsh is there. if you could just give us the lay of the land. for a lot of people it becomes very con fusing when it's hard o tell the good guy from the bad guy and hard to tell who's in the minority and in the wrong. what's happening there? >> reporter: as it stand, a lot of pro-russian militants and protesters in center, in control of that town, it's fair to say, behind a lot of barricades. today, we saw the ukrainian military try to move in around that town. as we drove in ourselves, we saw they were moving down the highway. they have scouts and we were told to hurry on. we turned the corner into the town and it was clear the pro-russian militants had in fact gone to mass forces along one of those roads. a couple of hours later reports of several clashes in that particular area. with saw the armored personnel
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carriers had taken off some ukrainian troops using the threat of force. driving away from that front line. and then a procession of ambulances. one after the other coming to the -- this is what people have been worried about, ashleigh, because there have been clashes, intermittent, around here the last several days but today it seems that began more seriously in earnest. i saw one woman brought into that hospital. her husband said she'd been shot while standing on a balcony. potentially a stray bullet there. shep died from her wounds. four militants brought in. one looked in very bad position. really, a sense of shock amongst those people locally there. a lot of locals laying out trees as barricades, unarmed, trying to defend the town in some ways. not to say that everybody in that town is pro-change, pro-russian unrest. certainly you get a feeling this violence is galvanizing those against the ukrainian government. ukraine for its part says it
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lost four soldiers in this operation and a helicopter. right now, i'm hearing a jet in the skies above us. it's quite clear things are far from over, ashleigh. >> just quickly, nick, i have very little time left, but do you sense this is effectively a civil war on the brink or something less than that? >> well, it's certainly edging that way. technically it takes a long time for a conflict like this deemed a civil war in proper but yes we are seeing daily clash, daily loss of life between these different factions in ukraine and the feeling heard from the self-declared mayor of slaventsk, that the country's already falling apart, potentially justifying a referendum that maybe this part of the country should join russia. >> i know you and your crew have made it into that region. it is not a safe place to be. nick patton walsh, be careful. we really appreciate this terrific reporting on your behalf. nick patton walsh and his team
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report live for us. it is hard to believe it's been about one year since three girls were found trapped in a house of horrors. amanda berry, gina dejesus and michelle knight suffering for about a decade in that home and now one of these girls is telling the story for the somber anniversary. you'll hear it next. it was a blistery rash.
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and gina dejesus finally broke free castro's house of horrors. michelle knight was subjected to numerous physical, psychological and sexual assaults that lasted 11 years. she talked to anderson cooper one on one about august 22nd, 2002, the day her life changed forever. >> what did he tell you to get you inside the house? >> in the car, he said that he had puppies. so when we got, like, a quarter down the road, he's, like, that's my van right there, and it says, puppies for free. so i was like, okay, i could take one home to my son because unfortunately his dog had passed away. so we get in the backyard. and i really didn't think nothing of it until, you know,
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we got into the house fully, that's when it dawned on me that this was a mistake to get in this car. >> you knew by then this is wrong? >> yeah. and then i ended up being trapped in a small room, small pink room. that's where he proceeded to tie me up like a fish and put me on the wall. >> you said tie you up like a fish, what do you mean? >> my legs and hands were bound like this. and i was that far from the floor. >> i talked to other people who have been taken and they all say that very quickly you start to kind of adapt to the new reality. that you start to, you know, people who haven't been through this situation think, oh, i tried to escape, i would do this, i would do that. but in reality, very quickly, your mind starts to adapt to your new environment. can you explain that? >> what happens is hard at
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church and state and blurred it a little bit more. in a 5-4 decision, the court said the town of greece, new york, does not violate the first amendment by opening town board meetings with a christian prayer or any prayer for that matter. the key, says justice anthony kennedy, is that prayer that comports with our tradition and does not coerce participation. stay tuned. target's ceo has resigned. greg stinnefel has been with the company for 35 years but is stepping down after the massive data breach last year. that wasn't the only problem for target. the retailer opened 124 stores in canada last year and it lost $941 million. the next phase in the search for malaysian airlines flight 370 will be more difficult and it will be more expensive for sure. australia estimates it will cost $60 million. australian, malaysian and chinese officials will meet in
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australia on wednesday to hash out plans for the next stage of the search. one group will analyze the data and information collected so far. another group will look at the resources needed. the data audit will look at information gathered since the beginning of the search. defense counsel for a florida mother who shot and killed her two teenage children said she is mentally ill and not guilty by reason of insanity. just take a look at your pictures of julie sheneker shaking when she was arrested. here is the pictures today. her first degree murder trial started this morning. police say she told them she killed her son and daughter for talking back to her and for being mouthy. if she's convicted, she will face life in prison. some incredible video of a fire that started as a controlled burn but got quickly out of control, logan county, oklahoma. at least 20 homes have now been
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destroyed. a 56-year-old man who failed to leave his home when requested sadly was killed in this fire. the fire's about 75% contained. that's all the time we have. thanks so much for watching us. i'm going to turn things over to wolf blitzer. he starts now. right now, violent flares in eastern ukraine. pro-russian militants are digging in as ukrainian troops try to gain ground. and now the clashes are spreading west. also right now, more than 200 nigerian girls still being held captive. an islamic militant group is claiming responsibility, saying it plans to sell the girls. and right now, it's back to square one in the search for the missing malaysia airlines flight 370. australia, malaysia and china are working together to hash out new plans for the next stage. hello, i'm w

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