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>> bill clinton defending his wife from insinuations, false one, about her health. the couple returning to washington with dreams of reigning over it again. not if our guest rick santorum has anything to say about it. for 46 years, the hunt for the zodiac killer continued. now one man says he found the killer in his own family tree. we'll ask 1 of 2 people to survive the zodiac, does he buy it? you're looking at live pictures from outside the san diego area. more than 11,000 people have been evacuated so far because of these fires. 350 firefighters out in force. according to authorities, 1500 acres have been scorched outside the san diego area. thousands of homes are threatened. even legoland has been
evacuated. we'll keep an eye on this fire throughout the hour. we'll bring you news as it develops. we begin with the national lead about a didn't disaster. we're expecting a news conference from health officials in orlando, florida. the site of 1 of 2 confirmed cases of mers in the u.s. it stands for middle east respiratory syndrome. it kills nearly one-third of those unlucky enough to contract it. a new case in the netherlands. mers has spread to at least 18 countries so far, including the u.s. 171 people have died from mers across the globe. the concern has significantly increased in both seriousness and urgency. there are two confirmed cases in the u.s. one in indiana. the other more recent in florida. in both cases, so far, not fatal. the carriers flew into the u.s.
from saudi arabia. flew. flew. think about that. tight, confine spaces. recirculated air. planes are like incubators for these diseases. defense secretary chuck hagel passed through a thermoimaging cameras. elizabeth cohen is outside the hospital. do we know if people who were in contact with the person in florida have mers? >> we know that they don't. the testing in florida turned out to be negative. a number of health care workers had contact with this person, 18 or so. two of them had indeterminant
testing. as we speak, behind me, they're doing some testing at the cdc to try to get a yes or a no. i want to add that that patient in florida is now doing much better. the patient is now fever free and improving. >> this country with a new virus for which there is no treatment, elizabeth. and has a high mortality rate. put this in perspective. how much concern is there among health officials considering that no one in the u.s. has died from this? >> there's still concern. because, of course, lots of travel between the middle east and the united states. but this is how i look at it. if my husband just came back from the arabian peninsula, i would be worried because of where he was. i would be worried about me because i'm in close contact. our daughters. if i was on this plane, you know, i might be you know
moderately concerned. but there were plenty of people on the plane with the person in the case in indiana and none of them got sick. if i was a doctor or nurse, i would take precautions. i would be cognizant of what i was doing treating this patient. but for the rest of us, not a lot of concern. >> the path into the u.s. was not a quick and straight one for either confirmed mers patient in the u.s. the first took two planes from saudi arabia to chicago and traveled further into indiana. the second took four planes to get from saudi arabia to orlando. the cdc is trying to track down everyone else on board those planes. renee marsh is working backwards to try to find who was exposed and where. what have you learned? >> hundreds of people were on the flights. we want to show you the first flight path.
the 44-year-old mers patient in orlando. this person went from saudi arabia, jeddah, to london. from london to boston, two atlanta, to orlando. all on board delta flights. now, that path, put that person in contact with 532 people in at least 35 states and territories. again, coming in contact with this mers patient. we do know that the airlines have handed over passenger names and contact information so the cdc can alert them. take a listen to this woman on board the flight to orlando. >> i was in shock that i could actually contract it. we're considered exposed. but there was no level associated with that. they said you and your husband are considered to be exposed to the mers virus.
>> that's the call she got. the other case, an earlier mers patient from saudi arabia, riyadh, to london, to chicago. on american airlines. we know that happened on an american airlines flight before taking a bus to indian that. we do know that health officials say the risk of infection, being passed from passenger to passenger to passenger extremely low on the flights. but they want to take all necessary precautions. they're reaching out to all those people on board the flight. the most recent mers patient in orlando. >> renee marsh, thank you so much. the cdc is still learning about the mers virus. first reported in saudi arabia in 2012. this graph shows the number of worldwide cases. there was a sudden explosion in cases last month. these numbers with not complete for april or this month.
let's bring in the head of mers response activities for the cdc. dr. david swerdlow. the patient in the florida case traveled from saudi arabia on may 1st. the case was not reported until may 11th. everybody he came in contact with is still in the potential incubation period, correct? >> that's right. we think it's about five days. but it's up to about 14 days. we're watching people for a full 14 days. >> are you concerned we could see an explosion of cases in the u.s. over the incubation period? or is this a question of caution and health officials being overly cautious. just because we don't want to take chances. >> i think you said it perfectly. we don't want to take chances with the virus. we don't know how it's transmitted exactly. we're not taking any chances.
we're monitoring everybody. we're asking everybody to take temperatures, call the health department if they get sick. at the end of the 14 days, we would like a blood sample to see if anybody was inflected. we're not taking any chances. it doesn't mean we think people are at high risk. we don't want to take any chances. >> the chance of spreading this is generally low unless you're a health care worker with a mers patient or a spouse, somebody who would be in close contact with that patient. but, a professor at harvard raised concerns about mers possibly be able to mutate into something much more serious. >> we have been monitor for changes in the virus all along. so far, no changes. we're watching for any chance there could be evidence of sustained human to human
transmission. t that would be the marker that something has changed. we have been very vigilant. we've done sequencing. looked at the genetic code of the virus. there doesn't appear to be changes recently. that makes us feel better. we're always monitoring and vigilant and watching. >> put this in perspective. the world health organization is not declaring this a global health emergency. what does it take to be one? >> thai saying it might not meet the kree tier ya of a global health emergency. they're not saying they're not concerned. they're just as concerned as we are. and just as vigilant. they're interested in making sure countries identify cases. make sure the cases are treated in such way they prevent the ongoing spread of the disease. make sure we learn more about the virus.
how it's spread. what the risk factors are. it doesn't meet the criteria but that doesn't mean they're not concerned. returning to the story at the top of the show. fires forcing 11,000 people to evacuate in the san diego area. let's go to paul vercammen. what are you seeing, paul? >> well, you can see right now, flame. an active flank of flame on the southern edge of the fire. a fire captain is using a road flare to set a backfire to cut off the advance. we're on the southern flank. one house burn sod far in san diego county. if we can pan around just to the right here, you'll see what we call a california conservation crew, an inmate crew actively digging out fire lines here to protect the neighborhood off to the north. another wall of flame coming up right here. go ahead and turn right here, if you could, please.
at 12:00, this is where they're making the stand. this is a fairly new community. a lot of houses with red tile roofs and stucco. a good sign for them. when the fire can spread through burning embers, you have a whole lot less to catch. it's a grund fight right now. captain miller, a quick question. can you talk to us about your strategy? >> right now, we're trying to put in a fire break between what is actively burning and not burning to stop the fire from advancing toward the houses. >> i realize it's difficult on the inside looking out. do you know how many homes we have lost? >> i have no idea. right now, the fire is in the drainages. it's running. we have erratic winds. low humidity. down into the single digits. we're being handed a severe bad hand right now in fighting the fire. >> reporter: well, that bad hand, of course is the wind, the heat, the dry, dry, dry
conditions. have you ever seen anything like this in terms of the level of dryness in the brush? >> no, right now, we're experiencing volatile conditions. low humidity, high temperatures. and, this is extreme. this is gone from just dry conditions to volatile conditions with severe spotting. >> reporter: for any californian, shocking this is happening in may. >> oh, yeah, we don't normally see this until long about october, november. when we have the lowest humidity of the year. this is unheard of this close to the ocean. >> reporter: i appreciate you taking time out. unusual conditions and go ahead and show to the right there, more of the very active effort to just dig firelines and seal this off. there is a street behind us. good news. asphalt, a natural defense to fire. they're in for it today. in this is 1 of 4 fires burning.
back to you, jake. >> thank you, paul vercammen. stay safe. about 11,000 people in the area have been evacuated because of these fires in san diego. we have about 350 firefighters on the scene. the conditions, the weather conditions, low humidity. dry conditions. more than 100-degree temperatures in some parts of the san diego county obviously making this a very difficult fire for the firefighters to fight. paul vercammen. we'll stay with you throughout the hour. coming up next, bill clinton playing defense for his wife, hillary, on a couples trip to d.c. would our guest, former republican senator rick santorum want to take her on in 2016? a shrine for lost lives. inside the new 9/11 museum before it opens to the public.
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you're looking at live pictures from kgtv. we've been following the break news. fire is forcing more than 11,000 people in the san diego area to evacuate their homes. we have lee swanson on the phone. the san diego fire department spokesman. what can you tell us about the fire? what is being done? we heard 350 firefighters are dispatched? >> the bernardo fire. 350 people on the line here this morning and still do. but we're getting an upper hand on it. we are controlling more of the fire than we were this morning. we're controlling the perimeter and, controlling right now, we're looking at hot spots. and doing much better on this fire.
we're trying to free resources to send to carlsbad, which also has a serious fire going on. just across the freeway from here. >> how many fires are there, sir? >> the bernardo is still about 1500 acres. something like that. there's a fire in carlsbad. a fire on the marine base. at camp pendleton. and there's another in the northern edge of the county. so, we're trying to keep on this fire and defend this, we're trying to free resources to go assist the others. >> do we know what started the fires? sit all because of the extreme weather conditions? the drought, low humidity, the heat? >> i don't know yet what started them. but those conditions fuel them. it's driving them. but the humidity here is about 3% to 4%. it's about 100 degrees.
the wind is predicted to be gusting about 50 miles an hour. >> do you know if there have been individuals wounded or injured as a result of these fires or so far, have the evacuations taken care of risk to the people there in san diego? >> as to the bernardo fire, the one that san diego has its most resources on. three minor injuries to firefighters yesterday. none that i'm aware of today. and, one of those people yesterday was a heat exhaustion issue. which is obviously one of our major concerns. we have to keep these guys hydrated. >> for the most part, are people cooperating with the evacuation? >> yes. and we have not had to do any evacuation on this fire today. on the bernardo fire. >> all right, lee swanson, spokesman for the san diego fire department, thank you so much. we appreciate it. good luck to the firefighters.
let's go back to paul vercammen. you heard three or four fires being described there. what are you seeing, paul? >> reporter: well, jake, flaring up all around me right now as this inmate team trying to seal off a blaze. it's burning fiercely in the canyon and right now, flip over to the right, scott, another flareup right here. they try to defend the flank and the neighborhood. it's been an absolutely dastardly day here, jake. the winds are pushing the flames around. they've been able to get helicopters up. that pop you heard, i'm guessing, was a transformer or a eucalyptus tree. it's getting awfully hot where we stand right now. so basically, you have fire on several flanks here in carlsbad. we know of a big fire in fallbrook. and maybe one in rancho bernardo. one that started by a truck at
camp penaltytdleton. i'm going to race in and get a bag. hang on a second. this belongs to my cameraman. a fluid situation, show the streets. the california conservation corps is going to try to retrench somewhere else. they came in to lay down fire lines. they didn't get engines in here because they had to make choices. let the canyons burn or go into structure protection for the individual houses in this neighborhood. there's been quite a number of evacuations. one statistic was 11,000. we hear that nearby legoland was evacuated as well. they have their hands full, as you heard mark miller, the captain, say to us not long ago. the next concern will be you see these flames in front of us. they're now headed due east. and you can see the houses off in the distance.
so one of the next areas they need to make a major stand will be over here, jake. >> all right, paul been please be safe. we'll come back with you in a few minutes. to those horrific fires in the san diego county area. our politics lead is next. what bill clinton said today in defense of his wife. that's coming up. you really love, what would you do?" ♪ [ woman ] i'd be a writer. [ man ] i'd be a baker. [ woman ] i wanna be a pie maker. [ man ] i wanna be a pilot. [ woman ] i'd be an architect. what if i told you someone could pay you and what if that person were you? ♪ when you think about it, isn't that what retirement should be, paying ourselves to do what we love? ♪ life with crohn's disease ois a daily game of "what if's". what if my abdominal pain and cramps end our night before it even starts? what if i eat the wrong thing?
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welcome back to the lead. time for the politics lead now. since his wife returned to quote unquote private life, former president bill clinton may be second only to her when it comes to knowing what goes on in her life. he attended the peterson foundation summit here today in discuss the economy, journalists being journalists, he was asked about controversy surrounding her and her potential presidential run. to the former president, republican strategist carl rove's statement was, as one clinton adviser put it to me was so stupid as to be a low-hanging curveball. >> i have to give him credit.
he did that -- that embodies the phrase consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds. first they said she fakd the concussi concussion. now they say she's auditioning for a part on "the walking dead." now they say she has brain damage. if she does, i must be in tough shape because sloohe's still quicker than i am. >> do you think this is their way of inserting her age of physical capabilities into the debate? >> if it is. you can't be upset. it's just the beginning. they'll get better and better. i mean, you know, it's -- i'm still waiting for them to admit there was nothing to whitewater. >> he weighed in on one of the most tragic and ugly evidents in her tenure, the attacks on benghazi. he praised his wife for
empanelling a committee to find out what went wrong. >> they gave 29 recommendatio snrks. she took them and started implementing them. whether it was right or wrong in the past, secretaries of state were never involved directly in a security decision. the last time we had one of these things made public was after the africa embassy bombings in 1998 when i did it. most americans don't know how many american diplomatic personnel were killed when president bush was president. >> joined now by former senator from the great state of pennsylvania, rick santorum. out with a book, "blue collar conservatives." always good to see you. thank you for being here. i want to get to your book in a second. first, what about president
clinton's comments on benghazi? >> there is more than one issue than hillary clinton's role. the most disconcerting thing is how the white house spun what happened and tried to take what seemed to be a pretty clear understanding of what was going on with the events and spin a very didn't story to public that was consistent with the obama campaign nair tai campai campaign narrative not with the facts. >> he talked about president bush's time. >> i appreciate that she empanelled somebody and they made recommendations and fold through. that is a check mark in her favor. the question is how they handled the situation at the time and whether it was done correctly and what culpability there is to the people that made those decisions. i still think we're not quite sure how that all played ho eed. >> i want to get your remarks on
chris christie's statements. he didn't think bridge gate would have the influence on his future. >> i think it will have none. because i didn't do anything. i'm not the first chief executi executive. i am not the first chief executive have someone do smng on the staff that did something they disapproved of and later had to fire. i don't think it hurts anybody's career and it is not going to hurt mine. >> do you agree? you think it will go away? >> i don't think it will go away. the media loves to play with issues that comport with what people think is the personality of the person. you know, do -- >> this fits into a narrative. >> it fits into the narrative where the media says, oh -- look, this is -- i know what this is all about. the media characterizes candidates. if you find anything that sounds like, this is who he is, they'll
drive it. >> let's talk about the book. blue collar conservatives. how 6 million blue collar voters did not turn out to vote in november 2012. this book is a priitch for them why they should vote republican and perhaps for you. there is a big debate. establishment republicans versus tea party republicans. where does this blue collar message fit? >> i think the reason i wrote this book is because i think it's a unifying set of principles for both sides to get excited about. i think blshment republicans raeld realize we have a problem in the country in areas where we should be winning, ohio, michigan, places where the economy is not strong. where the obama administration policies have hurt there, they're not coming out to vote.
if they are, they're voting for the other side. they realize we have a problem there. i don't think they have a clue how to fix it. the tea party realizes, that's who they are. they don't think the establishment understands their problems. this is an attempt to put an agenda together that the not just pro growth. it's also pro worker. if we don't have a pro growth/pro worker platform that communicates to the average american, i don't think there is hope for us to win national e le lexs. >> you say a lot of nice things about mitt romney as a person. but you think he was the wrong person to run. >> i believe he represented what i think is the wrong projection of what the republican party is. the republican party is not wall street financiers.
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memorial museum. it will be opened to families and dedicated tomorrow and opened to the public may 21st. it was a daunting task for organizers who has to balance the emotion of the day along with the kay yoting events and delivering the facts. recognizing the evil behind it. how it changed the world and the way we move around. i was lucky enough to get one of the first looks inside. with a special tour guide. former new york city mayor mike bloomberg. where once 110 stories of twin towers reached out to the heavens. today, cascading water falls into the void that remains. this week, 12 1/2 years on from that or riffing day, the national 9/11 memorial museum will be dedicated. >> you have pictures of the recovery. >> reporter: former new york city mayor michael bloomberg is
the chairman of the memorial. he gave us a private tour. >> lots of little stories. people came for rescue, they stayed for the recovery. a lot of them sadly got sick from what they had the breathe and have since died or are in the process of battling cancer. >> reporter: built with private and public funds, the mostly underground museum takes you through, step by step from the planning of the attack to the years-long recovery effects. you can see the massive found digs a walls that once held up the towers. a fire engine, the front of which is twisted beyond recognition. scraps of what survived from inside the offices. and the steel beam cross that became a symbol of home in the midst of despair. there is also a short film titled the rise of al qaeda. it came under fire recently from inter faith leaders who said it did not draw a clear enough digs
tings between muslims and the extremists of al qaeda. >> i looked very carefully at the film before we hut it up and afterwards. we have a responsibility to describe what happened. there is no question that these terrorists evoked god, they you could hear the tape recording on the airplane. we have to be very careful. you cannot use this as an excuse to do exactly what they wanted us to do. they wanted us to walk away from giving people a right to practice their religion. >> reporter: you have a responsibility to the facts as well. >> yes. this is a museum. the facts are the facts. to take and brand 1 billion people for responsibility of what a handful of people -- is ridiculous. >> reporter: it was a harrowing, traumatic day for millions of americans. at the time, bloomberg was a
candidate for mayor. >> someone said look at the television. a small plane hit the world trade center. i looked up. i am a pilot. i said stharkts not a small plane. it has to be a big plane. >> reporter: the primary was pushed a few weeks. and then the general election. did you think, wow this is a bigger challenge than i thought? >> the first thought was for the people. my god, there are people this the buildings. somebody said, there will be a lot of firefighters killed in that building. >> reporter: did you ever get concerned in the tension between liberty and security, that maybe things swung too much to the security side of things? >> no. i don't remember doing that. security is one of those things that you never know whether you have too much but sometimes you can find out you had too little. i would rather err on the other side. >> reporter: the remains of more than 40% of those killed on 9/11
have still not been identified. behind this wall, the medical examiner's laufs continoffice w to be gone over. on saturday, the remains were moved to the memorial. >> it's barbaric. it's unhumane. it's un-american. >> reporter: mayor bloomberg disagrees. >> this is where they belong. i can't think of a better place for the chief medical examiners lab poir. we can't brink the people back. to the extent that you can assure the survivors we did everything we could to be respectful of those we lost, think that is our obligation. >> reporter: what are the hopes for this museum? what do you want visitors to
come ay with? >> you want them to know this is a place to grieve. you want them to understand the tragedy did i. 3,000 people were taken from us by a handful of people who didn't like our freedoms. and that we cannot let that happen again. >> our thanks to mayor bloomberg. the museum is open to families tomorrow. and president obama will be there for the museum's official dedication. up next, back to the breaking news. 11,000 people forced to flee wildfires in san diego. another update from the danger zone coming up next.
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request to get manning into a civilian jail to get that treatment. i want to bring in one of chelsea manning's most notable supporters. he his reporting on edward snowden and the nsa won him awards. thank you so much for being here. great to see you. a 35-year sentence. is that what you think the future looks like for edward snowden? >> yes. that's one of the reasons that he won't. edward snowden faces at least that much were he to return. >> you would -- a fascinating detail in the book, at the top of the book. you spent months blowing him pauch you were getting e-mails from cincinnatus begging you to
get encryption technology. owe met him in hong kong. he was playing with the rubik's cube. that was the james bond tip-off. >> the impression i had was he was probably in his 60s or 70s. he had access to this extraordinarily high number of high level documents. he had political ideas. he was adamant he wanted to be publicly identified. he would go to prison for the rest of his life. i figured he wouldn't do that if he wasn't near the end of his life. >> he was disillusioned? by what? >> i think he had discovered, and this is somebody who went into the u.s. government with an
extremely positive view of the role that his government plays in the world. he enlisted in the army. went to iraq. he discovered there was a system of surveillance that nobody knew about. he was really disturbed by what that meant for democracy. >> perhaps the biggest revelation in the book. internal documents from the nsa, the british version, collect it all. a new collection posture. explain the significant of this slide and this chapter. >> the significance is the primary defense of the nsa and the u.s. government is that you need not worry. this is a very discriminating targeted system of spying, aimed at monitoring the communications of terrorists and people that
pose a threat. that's what they say in public. what they say in private is radically different. their goal is to turn the internet into a system of ubiquitous, systemless surveillance where entire populations are put under a surveillance net. >> you say in four to six weeks you're going to have a big scoop. you won't reveal the scoop now. you write in the book how a lot of the targets for surveillance are companies that the u.s. is competing with. that u.s. companies are competing with. is that kind of where you're going with this? >> there's a lot of surveillance we have already revealed. >> foreign oil companies. >> right. it's clearly intended for an economic motive. some of the surveillance is something that they have longdynied. the questions left to be answered is who, within the united states, individually, are
the people they've targeted as people who ought to have their e-mails read and telephone calls listened to. activists? dissidents? or other kinds of people? we know already is that they do things like collect the pornographic website activities and sexual chats of people they deem to be radicalizers. even though they're not involved with terrorist organizations. they target people who visit the wikileaks website or are involved in anonymous. this is the kind of activity that made surveillance so controversial. >> sony just bought the rights to the book. who is playing you, glenn gre greenwald? >> there are all kinds of speculation. jared leto for ed war snowden. and edward norton for me.
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