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our look at the stories you'll be talking about tomorrow. remember the guy who walked into the stage and delivered pizzas to some of hollywood's biggest stars. edgar got a thousand dollar tip but that's not the end of his 15 minutes of fame. he and his brothers have opened up their own pizza restaurant called wood serving high-end miz haves including lamb and mint and arugula on the menu for your next oscar party. i'm don lemon. thanks for joining us. man, she was passionate. that's it for us tonight. "a.c. 360" starts right now. good evening, breaking news tonight in the v.a. scandal. president obama going slow but promising accountability. we're keeping them honest tonight. also ahead in the hour cover upallegations against donald sterling. they tried to bury the tape that's now burying him there are allegations of. should this guy have gotten a relative slap on the wrist for
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his seventh dui? did the fact he did it in a ferrari and is wealthy have anything to do with him getting off easily. we begin with a story we've been covering for months when president obama finally addressed the issue directly pledging to fix the problems nationwide to hold the right people accountable and redeem this country's promise, the men and women who give body and soul to defend it. we begin with very tough questions about why the problems have been so long-standing and solutions, real solutions affecting hundreds of thousands of veterans have seemed so late and so lacking. after meeting this morning with secretary eric shinseki, mr. obama said if the allegations of long waits and phoney lists are true he would not tolerate it. all the same he never announced secretary shinseki's immeant departure or immediate action until he knows more. >> here is what i discussed with secretary shinseki this morning. first, anybody found to have manipulated or falsified records
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at v.a. facilities has to be held accountable. the inspector general at the v.a. has launched investigations into the phoenix v.a. and other facilities. and some individuals have already been put on administrative leave. i know the people are angry and want swift reckoning, i sympathize with that, but we have to let the investigators do their job and get to the bottom of what happened. >> now, plenty of lawmakers think he can do more. late today as we mentioned the house passed legislation making it easy to demote or fire senior executives. we'll talk later about that bill. mr. obama also made another promise today. >> so today i want every veteran to know we are going to fix whatever is wrong and so long as i have the privilege of serving as commander in chief i'm going to keep on fighting to deliver the care and the benefits and the opportunities that your families deserve.
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now, and for decades to come. that is a commitment to which i feel a sacred duty to maintain. >> well, keeping them honest, this is a promise that he has made before and others have made before, as well. >> we're keeping our promise to fulfill another top priority at the v.a. cutting the red tape and inefficiencies that cause backlogs and delays in the claims process. >> they should never, never be deprived of quality medical care and mental health care coverage for illness or injury incurred as a result of their service to our nation. >> as we bring our sons and daughters home, let's take care of our veterans. let's give our veterans the services, the health care -- >> we reduced the large backlog of disability claims by about a third. we will reduce it even further. combat injured and severely disabled veterans deserve
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better. >> well, about a year after president bush made those remarks, the first allegations of playing games with wait times began surfacing and three years later the outgoing bush team warned the incoming obama team about long-standing issues at the v.a., and in 2010 the secretary then called for a review and all the inappropriate practices. and today, president obama talked at length about long-standing and well known to him problems at the v.a. >> we all know it often takes too long for veterans to get the care that they need. that is not a new development. caring for our veterans is not an issue that popped up in recent weeks. that is an issue i was working on when i was running for the united states senate. we have to find out, first of all, exactly what happened. we know that, you know, essentially wait times have been a problem for decades. >> now, president obama has long known about the big picture problems at the v.a. and members
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of his team have long known about some of the specifics. and before that, members of the prior administration also knew about them. the question is what on earth is taking everyone so long to address them? worse than that, why were some of these officials rewarded? the head of the v.a. in phoenix got a nearly $8500 bonus for her performance last year. by the way, that was rescinded today. drew griffin has been covering the story and joins us from phoenix. what do you think about what the president said today? >> you know i think that the veterans will have to wait even long story get care while the president studies the issue, anderson. the fact is, veterans across this country have been waiting too long to get doctor's appointments. that is a fact. another fact is the v.a. has known about that. not only that, the v.a. has known that its offices out here in the country have been cooking the books to try to hide the numbers. those are facts that come from numerous government reports. so those are facts already out there.
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in the last several month, six months on your program, whistle-blowers have come forward and have told us and have told us they have talked to the inspector general reporting that due to delays in care deaths have occurred as a result. the v.a. has admitted 23 deaths due to delays. now, i just want to tell you, anderson, who this is harming, and why many believe the president's speech today was completely inadequate, last night here in phoenix i talked to a physician at the phoenix v.a. who runs the post deployment clinic, dr. katherine mitchell. and i had to ask her twice because i couldn't believe what she was telling me. she told me even recent war vets, vets coming home injured are waiting months to get care. >> doctor, i just want to make sure i understand what you are telling me. you're telling me that our troops coming back from war now separated from active service. >> who should have priority
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for scheduling do not. >> who are coming to the phoenix v.a. for follow-up care for war injuries -- >> correct. >> -- are being put on a waiting list and made to wait six to ten months? >> yes, or longer. >> you're kidding. >> no, but it's the same for everyone. everyone is made to wait. >> that's now? that is happening now? >> yeah, unless they've changed something since the -- >> you're there now. >> i don't -- since all this happened -- >> but we're talking about two or three weeks. >> right. >> can you tell me two or three weeks ago what type of person we're talking about? >> we're talking about people that were injured by being blown up by ieds. we're talking about people who had a mental breakdown and have severe ptsd and can't -- are having trouble functioning. we're talking about veterans that were severely injured by some means in the -- while in the military even if it was not
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in actual combat because we had had people that were involved in vehicle accidents. we have people that are injured stateside. >> who have you told this to in terms of this united states government? >> the oig knows when they spoke to me, the oig inspectors can ask anyone that does scheduling. >> they asked you? >> they didn't ask me, i told them. >> i mean, it is really incredible. you know, we all hear about delays and stuff. but i mean, somebody who has recently returned with a war injury, with an ied injury, lost a limb with severe ptsd is told to wait ten months. i mean, that is insane. dr. mitchell said she told the oig about this. did she also provide them with documents? >> she says she did, and she also told me, anderson, of an incredible story about just how fearful people are in the phoenix vashgs a. to come toward and speak. she said on the night before the
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inspector general investigators showed up she and a colleague were actually so worried that documents would be destroyed that she actually on a sunday night went into the hospital and hid some of the records until the inspectors could get their hands on them the next day. listen to this. >> we actually took the list and we hid it in my clinic. i found a place where we could secure it where no one else would be able to find it in the next 12 hours. there were actually -- it was actually the list and a copy of the list. there were actually two documents that we hid in two different places. and they stayed there overnight. >> incredible. i mean she's talking about this alleged secret waiting list. >> that is right, the secret list. >> and did you ask the v.a. about what or what dr. mitchell was saying? >> we asked about every single allegation that she made. the oig got back to us late this -- no, the oig didn't.
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the v.a. got back to us and said the oig doesn't want to talk about any of this because they didn't want to interfere with their investigation. >> and i just have to ask you about this again, i think i know the answer, did they get back to regarding the request you made about an interview with secretary shinseki? >> no, they did not. >> drew, hang on a second. i want to bring in the congressman on veteran affairs. your bill that just passed the house a short time ago this evening basically gives the v.a. secretary shinseki more power to fire executives who served underneath him and were involved in mismanagement. certainly an additional accountability is an improvement from what's been happening. will that be enough in your opinion? >> no, it is not going to be enough, but it's a step in the right direction. you have an agency with 30,000 employees in size. this bill will basically focus on about 430 of them. it gives the secretary the ability to fire people who don't do their job. >> congressman, you called president obama's comments today on the scandal, you said it was too little too late. what more do you want to see the
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president do? because clearly you don't think he should fire secretary shinseki, right? >> well, i would think the thing the president should have done today was to come out and say, i'm going to sign an executive order that would allow all veterans backlogged into the system the ability to go out into the private sector with fee for service, which the v.a. already has the ability to do. but the president doesn't seem to sense the urgency with what's going on there. again, he was disconnected just like he was in front of the senate last month. >> you're now requesting that top v.a. officials appear at a committee tomorrow morning to answer questions about their failure to comply with subpoenas. what answers from them do you need that you're not getting? what do you need from them? >> well, number one, we submitted a subpoena to them about, i don't know, 12 days ago or more. they did not comply with that subpoena. they were supposed to give us information regarding the destruction of the second list
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in phoenix. dr. tom lynch said that it was all a misunderstanding, that this list was an interim list. and once everything was put on the electronic list, they destroyed the other one. so we've asked what was the list? who was on it and why was it destroyed, and when was it destroyed? we have not gotten an answer to that. we sent a subpoena. they have not complied. we only got partial lists of e-mails on monday. we were supposed to get some more yesterday. we haven't gotten anything. and so i said, it's time to invite them to the hill, and if they don't come in the morning, we intend to subpoena them to testify on the 30th. >> and, drew, i mean, you have investigated what was going on in phoenix. you have had people report to you. what have they said about that list? is that their understanding of that second list? >> no, we're finding evidence of multiple different lists all over this hospital. and there are secret lists. there is no misunderstanding. we talked to a source last night who actually threw that right
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back in the face of what was said about that list. it is not a misunderstanding. this was a secret list. that is what sources inside the phoenix v.a. are telling us. >> and, drew, in the introduction we mentioned, the bonus the v.a. gave to the phoenix director and then rescinded, they blamed a clerical error. does that make any sense to you, drew? >> well, here is what happened. i think this morning or earlier this afternoon the congressman was given notice of this bonus and told that the bonus was some kind of mistake. the congressman made that public and within an hour or 90 minutes, all of a sudden that bonus was rescinded. it certainly does not make any sense that a director of the phoenix v.a. was given a bonus of $8500 in the month of april when there was an open inspector general report going on at her very hospital, and she is now on administrative leave. >> congressman, do you think it was just a clerical error? >> it doesn't seem to make any
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sense to me. >> no, it was not a clerical error, and i'll tell you one worse than that. in pittsburgh, where six veterans died of legion near's disease because the water was contaminated and nye for a year, the director of the health care system there got a $63,000 bonus, several days after the story broke, i actually asked dr. petzel in a field hearing in pittsburgh, would you give the bonus back? he said we don't have the ability to claw bake the bonus. now for $8500 it seems like they can make it happen. >> drew, is there any more clarity tonight on what the white house knew, and when they knew it. it seemed kind of muddled. >> in my opinion i think it remains muddled. the president said two things. both that he needs to do some fact-finding to get to the bottom of this and also that this was a cause long before he was ever in the presidency.
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in fact, when he was on the veteran affairs committee on the senate, so he's trying to say, yes, we knew bit all along but, no, we didn't know about it all along. that's the way i read it. maybe the congressman has a different feeling of it, but it is muddled. certainly, the great body of evidence that is already out there, anderson, on i would suggest that the president and shinseki go to congressman miller's own bipartisan committee who has been holding hearings on it for more than a year and read the testimony. the evidence is there and the information is there. they need to just simply act on it for one reason, to get these veterans the care that they need in a timely fashion, that is all we're talking about. >> congressman miller, appreciate you being on, drew griffin, as well. thank you, and we're going to stay on it. quick reminder, make sure you set your dvrs so you can always watch "360" whenever you like. up next, allegations in the sterling scandal that he and his wife
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well, just in case you thought you had seen the last bombshell go off in donald sterling saga, stay tuned on the allegations that donald sterling and his estranged wife were not estranged but were joined at the hip trying to cover up his alleged rant. you will hear two weeks before the recording became public, two weeks, sterling discussed it with the team president who then instructed the employee to destroy the copy. we'll talk about another claim, this one from the chief investigator that sterling asked the woman on the tape, v. stiviano, to lie about the authenticity of it. there is also more with stiviano talking about her relationship with donald sterling and dr. phil mcdraw. >> you define sex, hey, baby, can i get with you type of sex? never type of sexual -- >> no nudity, no fondling? >> never. >> and you were just his assistant and he just bought you
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all of these things? >> i was not only his assistant, i was his caretaker. i was his mother. i was his secretary, i was his driver. i did everything for this man in the last three years. >> it's in this capacity she said she would tape the ugly things she said with his knowledge, she says, to teach him how to be a better person. that's what she told dr. phil. donald sterling told me the recording was made completely without his knowledge. ultimately, though, the nba's investigation is centering not on that but what he and others did about it. more on that now from randi kaye. >> reporter: imagine if donald sterling's racist rant had never been made public. according to nba investigators' confidential documents, there was an effort behind the scenes by sterling and others in the clipper organization to destroy it. the investigation first reported by "the los angeles times" reveals that the clippers team president was told of the recording by an unnamed clippers employee who had received a copy of it. that was april 9th, two weeks
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before it was posted by tmz. the team president discuss ed it with sterling then told the employee to delete the recording and related text messages. the nba's confidential documents also reveal that donald sterling and his wife shelly may not be estranged at all but in cahoots with one another to cover up mr. sterling's comments and traps keep the team and the family. a stunning allegation considering that when anderson questioned donald sterling about shelly, he referred to her as his, quote, ex-wife. and listen to what shelly told barbara walters about his relationship. >> what is your relationship with your husband? >> we're estranged. we've been estranged for about a year. >> and listen to this, that is donald and shelly leaving a los angeles restaurant. listen to shelly defend him. >> are you a racist, mr. sterling?
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>> no, of course not, it's not true. >> not true. >> no, of course not. >> "the lachlt tithe "l.a. timet the confidential documents showed they gathered in a hotel room after the recording was made public. the nba reportedly believes that they were there to work out the language of a soon-to-be released statement, one that would create doubt about whether it was donald sterling's voice on the tape. the paper says the nba calls the statement intentionally misleading because sterling knew it was his voice. a source familiar with the investigation also reveals more about the other woman in donald sterling's life and his reported attempt to have her change her story. the nba documents detail a may 2nd meeting at l.a.'s four seasons hotel just before stiviano's interview with abc's barbara walters. there sterling asked stiviano to back down on her earlier statements about the recording and say she had altered the
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audio. randi kaye, cnn, new york. >> attorneys for the sterlings would not comment today on the allegations stemming from the investigation nor did the clippers team president. however jeffrey toobin is available for comment. he is available tonight. according to this declaration, sterling tried to get v. stiviano to lie for him. is he in legal trouble for that? >> well, i don't think there is a criminal case to be made here. you know, can you imagine a deputy district attorney in los angeles calling v. stiviano as a witness for the prosecution? i mean, they don't want to get anywhere near that. but it is yet another nail in his coffin as the owner of the l.a. clippers because it is a serious ground to have him removed from the team and it is part of the case against him. think about how much worse this story has gotten for him since it broke. when it broke, it was just this tape that tmz obtained of his conversation with v. stiviano. now, the racist things he said in your interview. you have the cover-up now. you have the fail tur to pay the
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$2.5 million fine. there are so many more grounds to take the franchise away since he has refused to sell the tape. >> in these charges there is inclusion or alleged inclusion between sterling and his his wife, shelly, something she clearly has been going to great lengths to kind of distance herself from him. in the barbara walters interview she said she's -- you know, that she was planning to get divorced. he said that they're planning to get divorced. when i actually spoke to him i asked about him having dinner with her because he was videotaped leaving a restaurant. he denied that ever happened. i just want to play that tape. >> you had dinner with shelly the other night. you were seen coming out of a restaurant on another one of those -- tmz -- what is that conversation like? >> i didn't have dinner with shelly. she lives somewhere else. she lives in malibu. that was danny and maria. >> okay, so you were --
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>> and he bought a brand-new car. and he wanted to show it to me. >> i see. and it was a beautiful car. and then they wanted to take me to dinner. everybody wants to take me everywhere. >> that is very true. >> yeah, i don't even think we played that in the original part because it didn't seem to make any sense. but it is interesting he denies that they were even having dinner together when clearly they were -- >> notwithstanding a video of them being together. look, he has -- >> does that hurt her case -- >> it certainly doesn't help her if she is misleading the nba about her status about here relationship. but the nba has made it clear for quite sometime that they regard her as part of the team. and so she is out when he is out. >> does any of this make it more difficult for him to bring a civil lawsuit or even divorce proceedings to try to slow down having the team taken away? >> well, i have never believed that divorce proceedings would slow it down at all, but i think it makes it much
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harder for him to bring a civil lawsuit asking for a stay of these proceedings because even if you believe that it was an illegal tape, an obstruction of justice is independent of the the bad statements he made to v. stiviano. so it's just another reason why i think he hasn't filed a lawsuit. you know, we've heard a lot of brave talk from the lawyers, this is unlawful this. is terrible. but unless and until either sterling brings a cases out on june 3rd and neither of them have done anything yet. >> jeff toobin, thanks. as always you can find more on up next, more about the bombs used in the boston marathon last year. what the bombers used to build the devices and whether or not they had training. plus, gm is now recalling more than 200,000 chevrolets. its 29th recall so far this year. a look at what's behind the surge and whether it reflects a
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a remote remote control you could get from a model car. we heard it the first time, so that how the fuse was built so that they could get away safely and how the device was used to make the explosion the maximum impact, anderson. >> there's also one part i want to ask you about that jumped out at us about what the brothers did saying, quote, these relatively sophisticated devices would have been difficult for the tsarnaevs to fabricate successfully without training or assistance from others. so the authorities clearly believe back then that the brothers didn't act alone or had some training. do they still believe that now? >> that's exactly right. first of all, no, they don't believe that. but at the time that's the assumption they were operating under. and this has all come out because tsarnaevs' lawyers are basically trying to get the court to basically to throw out a confession that tsarnaev made in the hospital.
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and at the time, though, the fbi up to the highest levels of government were afraid that there were other devices that were out there. when they found tsarnaev hiding on the boat he had written a note we will achieve victory, we are promised victory, we will surely get it. so the sense of "we" made them believe that there were others out there. also, when they realized that the devices were -- these pressure cooker bombs were made using this black powder, they did searches of the homes and couldn't find black powder. that suggested either they were built somewhere else or had help doing it. plus, the remote controls themself, very sophisticated. there's always been the discussion that tamerlan that when he went to dagestan he went into the woods to get training. there's no indication that dzhokhar got that training, but they threatened they would go to new york and make these devices and that's why the fbi had to find that out sooner rather than later and that is why they questioned him in the hospital. >> deborah feyerick, thank you. all right, general motors issued its 29th recall alone this year.
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this time involving 218,000 chevrolets that might catch fire together the 29 recalls involve more than 15 million cars worldwide, which is a record, in case you're wondering. the surge caused by the ignition switch tied to at least 13 deaths. gm knew about the problem for at least a decade before recalling the vehicles. mary barra, the company's new ceo, told lawmakers that gm going forward intended to root out problems quickly. so the question is, is that what we're seeing now or are there other issues at play? poppy harlow joins me tonight. poppy, the fact that gm recalled more cars in the u.s. than it sold in the last five is pretty unbelievable. do you have any idea when gm discovered this latest round of problems because i know they've been criticized for not recalling cars quickly enough. >> yeah, absolutely,
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in terms of this latest recall, 200,000 of those. they found out fairly recently. they didn't give the exact date. but they're being aggressive and trying to get in front of any sort of potential safety issue because of all the criticism they faced. the congressional testimony that the ceo had to give in april and that $35 million fine last week from the government. they said, quote, see it, if it needs to get fixed, get it done. that is the way this company is trying to be proactive and show the public that they have changed. they say in terms of the latest recall there are no injuries associated with it but they're investigating some fires. you know, why are we seeing this mountain of recalls from general motors right now? it is because the last thing this company wants is for anyone point a finger or accuse them of delaying a recall in any way, shape or form because of course, this comes after the ignition switch defect that proved to be deadly.
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it cost at least 13 lives and gm knew about it a decade before they told the public before it or recalled the cars. >> and any idea how much the recalls will cost gm? >> yeah, that is a great question. so what we know so far is that all the recalls this year in the u.s., over 13 -- just about 13.8 million, they are costing the company already $1.7 billion, that is just to fix the cars. then they have the $35 million fine that they agreed to pay. the government last friday, and that doesn't settle any the, and that doesn't settle any possible criminal liability. we know the department of justice is investigating right now whether or not there was any sort of cover-up at general motors in terms of that ignition switch recall. general motors is internally investigating that, as well. we're awaiting that report that has to come out by the end of june. but also you have to remember they have brought on attorney ken feinberg, and he handled victim compensation after 9/11, after the bp oil spill. he is sorting out victim compensation for those that died
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as a result of the ignition switch defect. so likely the cost here for gm is going to go a lot higher. >> i mean, how does somebody who has a gm car, how do they find out or figure out that theirs is one of the cars recalled? >> you have to go online. but to their home page and there is an owner's section to put in a v.i.n. number and we have it on >> poppy, thank you very much. poppy harlow. and speaking out about allegations that the nfl pushed illegal powerful painkillers on the players just to keep them in the game. plus, a seven-time dui offender gets what they say is just a slap on the wrist. is this another case of the so-called affluenza? what if a photo were more than a memory? what if it were more than something to share?
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new round of allegations that it sacrificed its players health for profit, this time it involved painkillers and not concussions.
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the lawsuit involved pro bowl center jeremy newberry alleges that the nfl routinely supplied players with painkillers to keep them on the field on game day without warning them about the potential dangers to their long-term health. jeremy newberry now has kidney failure that he attributes to the painkillers he was given. jeremy, thanks for being with us. the allegations about the addictive drugs, given without prescriptions and without proper medical care. you said you were given totorad. >> maybe my first year, i didn't take it the whole year. but the majority of my career i would say at least 10 out of the 11 years i was taking it. >> and what would that do for you? >> i mean it's a -- it's almost like a wonder drug.
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it's a super strong anti-inflammatory but it worked like a painkiller. there were times i couldn't practice the whole season, would be in a walking boot or crutches, trying to get in a stadium with a boot on and take a shot of toridol and vicodin, and i would be ready to play. >> so was it the doctors giving you the stuff in the locker room? or who was doling it out? >> the doctors and trainers typically gave out the oral painkillers, and then the doctors gave the shots. >> trainers, without a medical license, just the trainers. >> correct. >> so at any point did anyone say these are serious drugs and can cause you serious problems down the line, you know, take them at your own risk? >> no, and the crazy thing is i had symptoms early on that just went by the way side. and looking back, after i ended up in the icu with the severe symptoms from the kidney problem, i went to a bunch of
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specialists and they started looking back at all my medical records from years past. 2003 and 2004, i started showing signs of kidney damage in my blood test and my urine tests. then 2004 it was a little bit worse. 200 a, 2006, even worse, when i retired in 2009 they got worse every year. the same doctors were looking at those same tests every year of my physical saying good clean bill of health. never said your kidneys are deteriorating, you need to lay off the painkillers, all of the above. they knew at that point in my career, my body was beaten up enough, i was not going to get on the field unless they were giving me these drugs so they concealed that from me. >> there's a former player, former nfl player, mike golic, host of espn's "mike and mike." he talked about the lawsuit and was critical. i just want to play some of what he said and let you respond. >> you know, when i'm hearing
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how one football player made me a junkie, part of that turns me off, as well. if those players went back, they'd say the same damn thing. because the players would say i'll take what you give to make me play. you didn't have to. you didn't have to take that if you didn't want to. >> what do you say to that? i mean, would you do it again? >> i say -- >> if they told you it was dangerous, would you have just done it anyway? >> i say one of two things, he makes his money by doing exactly what he is doing. there is a whole bunch of people in the media that make their living by being controversial and saying what is against the grain or whatever. and the other thing i say is there is a difference between a doctor telling you, hey, look, jeremy, what is the side effects? if somebody said the odds of you having kidney favor and you may need a kidney transplant by the time you're 40 years old if you
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take this stuff that is the true risk of taking this toradol, there ain't no way in hell i would have took the medicine. i just wouldn't have done it. >> and they didn't say that to you? >> of course not. they said this will cause you to bruise more. you don't have to worry about nothing. okay, if the team doctor and the team train ser telling me exactly what the side effects are, some more bruising, i mean that's a no-brainer. yeah, i'm going to battle through and take whatever it is to play. if you tell me i need kidney transplants at 38 years old because of the medication, there's no way i would have played this with it ever. >> well, jeremy, thank you for telling me this. >> my pleasure. >> jeremy newberry. up next, it wasn't the first time police say a washington man got behind the wheel of his ferrari drunk. in fact, he had been arrested for dui six times before so why did he get what critics call basically a slap on the wrist. the case causing outrage across the country tonight.
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they're growing outraged when a person got a slap on the wrist. the prosecuting attorney says in
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a statement he received the maximum penalty but that comes with work release and about dui sentencing in general and in this case, about goodman's status as a wealthy businessman. dan simon reports. >> reporter: he lives on this three-acre gated property in olympia, washington. shawn goodman owns a small business and has done well for himself. and that is why some believe that this multiple dui offender is getting a sweetheart deal, the ability to work at home and keep the cash flowing while serving out just a year-long sentence after yet another drunken fight behind the wheel. protesters expressing their frustration at the county courthouse. >> it's just sad to feel forgotten by the justice system. they're not worried about the people. >> henry griffin could not believe it when he learned the full extent of goodman's history. he believes goodman could have killed him and he feels let down by a system that he says is
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failing to protect the public from a habitual drunk. they met at this tavern with the 42-year-old goodman offering a ride in his ferrari. >> and i was like, whoa, yeah, it is a ferrari, i had never been in a ferrari before. >> reporter: and as soon as they drove off, goodman gunned it. police were soon on his tail and thus began a high-speed chase. >> i'm begging him, please, just pull over, let him out. >> reporter: i says he was forced to jump out of the moving vehicle. according to the police report goodman blew through several red lights traveling down these streets at an estimated 90 miles an hour. when he was stopped, he was met by a police officer who had his weapon drawn. his car was trashed and he eventually was booked for dui. as i mentioned earlier it was not the first time, it was not the second, not even the third or the fourth.
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or the fifth, not even the sixth. it was his seventh du over 20 years. adding to the outrage, goodman was given permission by a judge to attend the super bowl in new jersey while his case was pending. >> you hear seven dwis, people people think of themselves why don't you stick this guy in prison for a long time. >> well, in washington, the law didn't let us do that, it didn't give us that option. >> reporter: this prosecutor is defending the growing criticism leveled at his office for letting the repeat offender spend his days at his home office. he denies goodman's wealth was a factor. >> i think that if you can keep somebody working while they're in custody so that they're working when they come out of custody substantially reduces the likelihood they would reoffend, particularly when you're talking about somebody who is a drug addict or alcoholic. >> reporter: goodman refused to talk to me and there was no doorbell when we showed up at his gate.
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we did catch up with his lawyer. if he didn't get the message after the sixth time what makes you think he is going to get the message after the seventh time? >> he has been very remorseful and very -- he definitely acknowledged and understands the gravity of the situation and how serious it is. >> reporter: henry griffin isn't so convinced. >> i have to go to the chiropractor three times a week. i have to go to see a psychologist once a week. >> five months have gone by and he says he hasn't even gotten an apology. >> dan simon joins me from olympia. so even with seven duis this is the longest sentence he can get? that surprises me. >> you know, as egregious as that sounds, anderson, that is the law here in washington state based on the time line when all of these events occurred, if you will. but what has people really fired up is this work release, the judge and the prosecutor certainly could have rejected that and that certainly would have made a whole lot of people happier. but the idea is that if you're employed and have a job when you
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leave jail that you will get a paycheck and be a benefit to society when you get out of jail. s that that's the argument. >> appreciate it. a lot more happening, susan hendricks has more. anderson, a woman reported missing a decade ago when she was 15 has been found alive and her alleged kidnapper is behind bars tonight. police say garcia abused her, forced her into marriage and fathered a child with her. well, 80 u.s. troops in chad will help in the search for 200 nigerian schoolgirls kidnapped by the islamist miss tants boko haram last month. also, a group making a video of themselves dancing to the song "happy" were freed from jail. the reporter is still behind bars. they're out, the director is still behind bars. >> all right, crazy, susan, thank you very much. "the ridiculist" is coming up. stay tuned.
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time now for "the ridiculist," and if i have said it once, i said it a thousand times. there is nothing, nothing more delightful in these great united states than a transportation department. that is right, they're lively and they're playful and they're just a little bit edgy. just take a look at what the massachusetts department of transportation has come up with now. it is a road sign that says, use yah blinkah. if you're going to change lanes, you got to your use yah blinkah. will out of towners be able to decipher it? i don't know if you have seen the movie "the heat." but it can be a challenge for those uninitiated. >> are you a narc? >> i'm sorry. >> are you a narc? >> a knock? i'm sorry. i don't know what that is. >> a knock. am i speaking japanese? >> listen to him. >> i'm going to sound it out for you. are you or are you not a narc like johnny depp in "21 jump street"? >> ah, i see, i see. okay, a narc. >> yes, a narc. what was i saying?
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>> see, it wasn't just use yah blinkah but other signs up imploring people to be wicked safe and smart on the road. mass d.o.t., what will you think of next? >> by using the spelling we certainly get people's attention. we got -- so we're hoping this is a way we can kind of fresh these messages and end up soliciting the public and maybe give a subject like distracted driving and see if we >> i'm not sure you want to solicit suggestions from the public on this one. you're probably going to end up with a lot of this. take a look at that. somebody hacked into a sign in new jersey and changed it to this bit of glory. this is odd. i always thought assville was farther south and jersey. i'm no digital sign expert but these things aren't too difficult to hack into it. i don't think they were warning people about a godzilla attack ahead or notifies them the