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each other to live in peace. and he invited israeli and palestinian leaders to the vatican, a move that could possibly restart peace talks. i'm brooke baldwin. thank you so much for watching. we'll see you back here at the same time tomorrow. in the meantime, let's go to washington. "the lead" with jake tapper starts right now. almost all american troops out of afghanistan by 2016. will the afghans be ready? i'm jake tapper. this is "the lead." the world lead. a major announcement by the commander in chief. the next to zero option, combat operations will finish in afghanistan by the end of this year. they will soon head for the exits as well. critics ask, what happen if al qaeda comes back? the national lead. what caused the man that killed six people in santa barbara to
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suddenly snap? well, actually, it doesn't seem as though it was sudden at all. we're learning his chilling plans were years in the making. and the pop culture lead. all you have to do is look at one of his fund-raiser lists to see how many fans president obama has in show business but have some of his controversial policies finally turned hollywood against him? good afternoon. i'm jake tapper. it's the longest u.s. war ever and in that time and both wounds and otherwise, for the thousands and thousands of afghan civilians killed. operation enduring freedom has been enduring all right. there are high school freshman who cannot remember the united states that was not at war. but by the end of this year, it
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will be over. combat operations will be, anyway, with more than two-thirds of the troops leaving before new year's. as president obama announced just a short time ago. and we will have service members in different parts of the country by the end of 2016. our military will draw down to a normal number in kabul with a security component just as we have done in iraq. >> the president today appearing to take something like a close to zero option and almost full withdrawal by 2016. senior administration official tells me the u.s. will still probably have close to a thousand u.s. service members remaining there after 2016 to
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protect the embassy and help train the afghans on how to use weapon systems, for instance. here is how the withdrawal will work. by the end of this year, the combat mission for the u.s. is set to conclude and the u.s. shifts fully to an advisory role. logistics, training. 9800 u.s. service member will still be in different parts of afghanistan providing regional support to the afghans and by the end of that year, the troop level will be cut by roughly half and then by the end of 2016, whoo, the u.s. will have nothing but the security presence in kabul and the security presence not unlike the personnel left in iraq right
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now. and we never signed up to have a security enforcement against the taliban. are the afghans really ready to fend for themselves? let's bring in admiral kirby. and it's clear ending this war will be popular with the american public. the big question, are the afghans really ready to go it alone? >> well, jake, i think they are more ready every single day and it's a big component of going forward. the combat initiative is at the end of this year but assuming we get an agreement to stay in afghan in the next year, a major mission for our troops there will be to advise, train, and assist and continue to develop their capacity and capability. but they are getting better and have been getting better every month. a friend of mine took command in the east and shortly after
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arrived on stage, he hadn't been in afghan for maybe a year or so and he told me it was night and day. >> they said the concern is not so much the afghan security forces, they thought they would be up to task. rather, they were worried about the support for the security. this is the not sexy part in the military that nobody likes to talk about but the resupply, the ammunition, the food. we sat on an afghan target just waiting for the ambulance to get to us. >> sure. >> are the afghans going to be able to do that part of the job? >> that's another thing that we're going to be working with them on, to be honest with you. those are called enablers, enabling functions, supporting the troops that are out in the
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field. these are capabilities that we continue to know that they need help with. >> what is to keep al qaeda from biding their time? >> first of all, if al qaeda core leadership in that part of the world has been securely degraded. let's take the hypothetical out for a spin. in january, february of next year, they are still going to see a significant u.s. troop presence in afghanistan. more importantly, jake, they are going to be more competent and more skilled. >> what about drones that go out of pakistan and into afghanistan, where are u.s. counterterrorism forces going to be located to go into that
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country? >> we have taken a regional approach. it isn't just about the threat inside of afghanistan. you're right about that. i won't detail the specifics in terms of how counterterrorism operations are going to work going forward. that is certainly another one of the tracks, the missions that our troops are going to be doing, is assisting the afghan security forces with counterterrorism as well. we know it's a persistent challenge and nobody is going to turn their back on that. >> if things spiral on to chaos after the u.s. withdrawal there, would this timeline be reconsidered or is this a hard out, 2016 out? >> well, a couple of things. the president is clear about the timeline we're going to follow but it's not a hard out.
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and as you likely said at the lead-in, we're going to have troops at the embassy to help continuing assisting the afghans moving forward. we're not turning our back on afghanistan from a security perspective. we're going to keep it as long as we're going forward. >> admiral kirby, thank you. >> thanks, jake. the people of ukraine elected a new president a few days ago but how much of ukraine, as we know it, will he really preside over? gunfire between separatists erupting. at least 40 people have been injured and two civilians. at least 35 of the dead are rebels. the battle for control of the airport broke out after ukraine's newly elected president said he would like to
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potentially negotiate his way out of this crisis. our nick paton walsh is there covering the battle for the donetsk airport. what did you see? >> reporter: yesterday's violence is replaced by a sense of a city trying to wake up and and assess the aftermath of the worst clash that is swirling around this region. and at the morgue they are counting the dead and the signs of the ukrainian army's resolve to take back the airport. nearby, a woman, her head blown off. doctors said that locals have been here to collect some of these men, their relatives. at the airport cordoned off but
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not controlled by separatists, side-by-side with the police and still occasional blasts and gunfire. this truck, where so many militants died, ukrainians finally resorting to all of its firepower. in a nearby grass, the first aid given. the bodies dragged away in the woods. shocked locals did not want their faces shown. >> who can stop this? >> i don't know. >> putin? >> maybe. >> can this part of the city ever be part of ukraine? >> i think ukraine will be destroyed. >> reporter: on lookers said the dead were nashy, russian for our
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guys and perhaps new martyrs in some eyes here. jake, while there are some who perhaps think that yesterday was a show of force, perhaps looking to be ahead of the negotiations p ochl -- poroshenko did offer that possibility and lacking really clear political leadership, bickering amongst themselves and now seeing russia increasingly different. jake? coming up next, there were warning signs. shocking details into the mind of the plotter who had been plotting for years. and karl rove says that hillary clinton is, quote, old and stale. the politics lead is ahead. hi, i'm jay farner, president of quicken loans. and we're here in detroit michigan helping folks refinance their homes and save money.
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welcome back to "the lead,"
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i'm jake tapper. in our national lead, cnn has obtained brand-new video of patrons ducking for cover during the drive-by shooter in isla vista, california, on friday. today has been declared as a day of mourning. campuses will gather later tonight to remember the victims of friday night's rampage which left six dead. 13 others were injured, such as nick pasichuke. both of his legs were broken when he was run over by the shooter's car. veronika weiss was also killed. >> we got on her iphone and located it in the middle of the crime scene and then we actually were looking at the phone while they were moving her body. >> the killer left behind plenty of evidence. rantings posted on youtube and
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writings showed that he first started to plan some sort of attack in december of 2012 when he bought his firsthand gun. he singled out his middle school crush writing that her, quote, cruel behavior towards him is what made him view women as heartless creatures. the girl's father said that she's devastated by his actions and does not even remember him, let alone remember teasing him. there were signs that this young man was disturbed, that he needed more of the professional help that he was getting. but his parents tried. the mother even called last month to check on her son. could anything be done to prevent this tragedy? joining me is author of "the psychology of living a lie." dr. saltz, what does it tell you that he took the time too create this narrative and these videos and this 141-page writing? >> all i could say, without obviously have investigated and spoken to him, is that these were thoughts there for quite some time.
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it's important to know that many people have fantasies of revenge that never act on it but in this case, obviously, these were ongoing vengeful, angry thoughts and that being agrandized was an important part of this, being viewed, being read was an important part because, as he says in the video, he felt like a nothing and he wanted to go outleting the world know that he was a something. and that's why i think it's so important during these horrible, horrible incidents that we remember not to go on too much about the perpetrator because it inspires someone else who is feeling angry and disenfranchised and vengeful to think that is a way to go out in some sort of infamy. >> he would attack people with
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super soakers but he didn't like to see people happy. this kind of behavior, obviously, does not end up becoming what it became. i'm wondering if there was a warning sign. >> well, jake, this is the problem, that many people who do things that are, let's say somewhat anti-social or a little anti-social, you know, don't go on to commit heinous, violent acts of mass proportion like this and not only is it difficult for often law enforcement to know who it is going to be, it's even difficult for mental health professionals that the person is seeing to know who it is going to be because if they don't say who is going to do it, we can't read minds and we don't always know and we're not good at predicting which ones go on to commit the really heinous acts. in fact, the red flags that we would look for are substance abuse which is not the case here or violent prior behavior, which
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was also not the case here. so, you know, that's very concerning. the sad point, i think, however, is that the police were called and there was concern from the family, you know, about his taking -- hurting himself and his own well-being which is most often the case when someone has a mental illness. and we really need to empower and also train the first line responders on what to look for and where to look with social media, et cetera, available in terms of being able to spot a potential violent act. >> you say where to look. and we know from the killer's own writings that the police came to his house in april and they did not ask to look in his room and if they had, they would have seen guns and a stockpile of ammunition and he would have been up, as he writes himself. do police need to say, hey, it's a serious thing for a mom to
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call the police on her son because he may be violent in some way, can i look into your room, can i look into you're closet? do they need to do that? >> well, obviously that person can say no and without probable cause, the law prevents them. however, they could look online and investigate what the parent is talking about and had they seen any of these youtube video, frankly, they would have had probable cause. unfortunately, technology has moved forward at a rate that we haven't kept up with this. our awareness of mental health and how it plays into these issues, we've not kept up with that either. so we really need to take a look at the multiple interactors in this and how we can update our systems to try and catch these people but it's also important to know that most of the people that commit these mass violent acts are not actually seriously mentally ill.
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they are angry, lonely, disenfranchised young men who want revenge, who are hell-bent on committing an evil act and they are not always predictable, they don't always leave signs and, unfortunately, that's the reality. >> a sad reality. gail saltz, thank you so much. how could a boeing 777 simply vanish? will a different expert be able to find something that was missed. and later, they watched their friends die and they were almost killed themselves so why do those in the military have a desire to go back to war once they are home?
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welcome back to "the lead". i'm jake tapper. in other world news, there is finally new evidence to pour through when it comes to the missing malaysia airlines flight 370. that is, if you're an expert in reading communications logs. after weeks of prodding from families, the authorities finally released the 47-page document with raw data that the british satellite company that inmarsat used to calculate where the missing airliner may have
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crashed. so does this document bring any answers for the families? cnn aviation correspondent rene marsh explains. >> reporter: critics are now pouring over the newly released data. >> we want to make sure that inmarsat did not make any mistakes. >> reporter: if authorities thought that the release of the data would satisfy the critics, they are wrong. >> scientific or technological-type analysis, assumptions are vital and we need to be working from the same page, if it were, to verify that no mistakes have been made. >> right now what we have, our hands are really tied. we've got the raw data but we don't have a good explanation of how to interpret all of those values. >> reporter: inmarsat said they provided what investigators asked for. >> we have absolutely no problem putting our model in the public domain and that's the decision
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for a leading country to put out there. >> reporter: the search for the plane has been focused along the final arc but there is a margin of error. it could be off by six miles either way. plus, the plane could have glided for 23 miles in either direction. put together, that's a margin of error nearly 60 miles wide. this data proves impossible for some of the wilder theories of where the plane might be, like the notion it landed at a u.s. military base in the indian ocean. satellite expert michael exner says it's clear the plane went down near the final arc. >> it had to be on that arc. i think the inmarsat data is very accurate in that regard. we knew that before and this data released today just reinforces that conclusion. it did not go to diego garcia. >> reporter: but some families are not sure just yet.
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>> there is no direct evidence. >> reporter: rene marsh, cnn, washington. joining me now is sara bajc whose partner philip wood was on the plane. does the release of this data raise any questions for you, give you any confidence about where philip might be, that investigators are looking in the right place? >> the preliminary feedback that i have received from a few of the individuals looking at the information is that there is some interesting discrepancies specifically around the first frequencies. that might be something that they are going to look into a little bit more. >> the bluefin-21, the underwater drone that's been searching the floor of the ocean is wrapping up its phase of the search. the next phase won't start for a few months. are you surprised that after all of this time there still hasn't been one concrete trace of this
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plane? >> it's one of the things that leads us to be suspicious about why they have chosen this particular place. as a family group, and i as a concerned citizen and a frequent passenger of international airlines, i believe this investigation has to go back to the very, very beginning with an independent body. it cannot be run by the malaysian government. they have too bad of a history. they have made error after error and have far too vested interest in not finding the plane. >> sara, i can't imagine the sadness and the grief that you and the other families are feeling. i guess a lot of us probably feel like the simplest explanation is the most likely, that this plane probably crashed. i'm wondering where your head is at these days. what do you think happened? >> i honestly don't know what to
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think anymore. my head and my heart and my instincts are all cluttered up. we've been bombarded with cycles of emotional roller coaster over an extremely long period of time and we've been deceived, whether that's actively or inadvertently also over a long period of time. so we haven't even gotten to the point of proper grieving. sad is kind of a weird word because it would have to denote some acceptance and at least for me, i have not accepted that philip is dead yet. there's not a trace of evidence that the airplane has crashed and there is ample evidence that there is a cover-up going on. so that does lead me to hold out hope that that airplane was indeed taken satisfy being held for some other purpose that we just don't know yet. >> sarah bajc, i hope you get answers and i hope you find
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peace. thank you for your time. >> thank you, jake. coming up, she has nothing but praise for him now but will that change if she decides to run for president herself? hillary clinton opening up about her relationship with president obama. are they as close as some think? nineteen years ago, we thought, "wow, how is there no way to tell the good from the bad?" so we gave people the power of the review. and now angie's list is revolutionizing local service again. you can easily buy and schedule services from top-rated providers.
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journey for me, both literally, i ended up visiting 120 countries and traveling nearly 1 million miles and figurativelily. from the painful end of the 2008 campaign to an unexpected friendship with my former rival barack obama. i've served our country in one way or another for decades. yet during my years as secretary of state, i learned more about our exceptional strengths and what it will take for us to compete and thrive at home and abroad. >> let's bring in brianna keilar and peter baker, also the author of his own book which comes out in paper back next week if you're going to the bookstore to buy hillary's book, stop by peter's i'll. it's a natural combination.
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breen ybrianna, what is your read? is there anything interesting in this latest excerpt? >> i would say it's cautious. there's no bombshells here. it's cautious and this is the author's note about why she is writing this book. if the book is anything like the author's note, i don't think we're expecting a lot of stones to be thrown. one of the only ones that she really does is talking about how washington -- the followers of washington's long-running soap opera and she said i didn't write this book for them. it's sort of distancing herself from washington and that's not -- >> peter, she says she caused the raid on bin laden's compound as crisp and display of leadership as i've ever seen. risky. but isn't it true, if she does run, she's going to have to distant herself from some of obama's policies and decisions? >> look, in some ways she's running as a vice president, much like george w. bush or -- but the truth is, she owns the
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last administration. at the same time, she has to establish her own identity. and she's going to have to find the proper balance while still telling other voters that she's going to be something different. >> we've been hearing her doing a little bit of that. she's talking tougher on iran and compared vladimir putin to hitler, which is certainly something that the president didn't do. >> right. let's take a listen to this moment that she had in discussing foreign policy in the book. >> well, there are few problems in today's world that the united states can solve alone. there are even fewer that can be solved without the united states. everything that i have done and seen has convinced me that america remains the indispensable nation. i am just as convinced, however, that our leadership is not a
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birthright. it must be earned by every generation. >> kind of interesting timing, though, i have to say, talking about the united states as an indispensable nation on the day that president obama announces that the u.s. is leaving afghanistan. but there really isn't anything and anything i have read or heard yet from this book that leads me to believe that she is doing this as anything other than a precursor to running for president. because it is so cautious and we all know from covering her, behind the scenes, she's a lot more lively, interesting, a lot more opinionated. >> yeah. and there's a lot of optimism in that message. but she also kind of does her on the one hand and the other hand where she says the future of the u.s. and the role of the u.s. is so significant. however, we can't take that for granted, basically. so that sort of struck me, i think, is she sort of pushing this positive message, which is so, you know, quintessentially on the stump running that that's
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what i took from it. >> it's an interesting rollout, though. they have said -- the clinton team -- that they know these books tend to leak so they are kind of doing their own leaking ahead of time. >> they are shopping all of these various parts. she loves america, the raid on bin laden. >> loves america. >> we do have a whole week and a half or so to go and there are lots of different ways for them to steer this media, you know, machine into where they plan to go. >> i guess one of the things that she's so criticized by the media, not the american people, but she's so criticized for being so on message and so cautious. that was the criticism during the last campaign, also. it seems like she's still sort of doing that, though. >> i would say if you watch her into these speeches that she's given, even when she had a shoe tossed at her, i thought her response was pretty funny. >> in the book. >> exactly. that's why i'm wondering if we have watched her being a little
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looser lately, is sh he going to revert back to that sort of not showing her personality that i think was actually to her disadvantage very much in 2008. >> a lot of people say that she did et abouter in the campaign when she had lost and relaxed and showed herself a little more and that's when she was stronger but she was too far behind at that point to make a difference. >> we've been talking about hillary clinton all year and now we'll have a legitimate excuse to do so when her book comes out. thank you. appreciate it. coming up next, the rush of war. men and women risking their lives and wanting more. why some members of the military returned from the front lines and instantly want to go back into plus, they have given him millions and stood by his side at campaign events. but is hollywood now turning their back on president obama? ♪ norfolk southern what's your function? ♪
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welcome back to "the lead". i'm jake tapper. our buried lead. operation enduring freedom is finally coming to a close. but what happens when those on the front lines actually come home? i spoke to the author of war and the director of the new film seb bass stin junger and why some wish they could go back to war. how is this different? >> tim, my good friend and co-director, we wanted to make a film that allowed civilian audiences to go into a cinema and talk about what war feels like. i asked the soldiers things like, what is fear like? why do you miss the war? a lot of them missed the war
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once they got back. >> i would rather be there than here. i'd go back right now. i'd go back right now. >> how can they miss a war? >> it's the hardest, most violent, terrible thing they've ever experienced. they lose their friends, they almost lose their lives. but they miss it. and i think what they miss, on the one hand, is the enormous amount of combat. these guys played war when they were kids and because they wanted to be combat infantry. in a platoon like that, they are sleeping shoulder to shoulder, no internet, for a while, no electricity, no phone communication back home, combat almost every day and they got incredibly close. it's almost intoxicating. once you're deprived of it, it really is an enormous gap in your life. >> one of the interesting choices that you make as a
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director -- and it was risky, i have to say, is you try to recreate the adrenaline that these troops feel when they are in a fire fight. >> there's nothing like it. >> we're getting engaged again because our [ bleep ]. [ bleep ]. [ bleep ]. [ bleep ]. >> incredibly riveting and yet risky because you do -- there's a question of whether or not you're grahlamourizing war in t scene. >> combat is sometimes very exciting and you can see that in that footage. it's a part of the soldier's experience that civilians really have to understand. wh one of the uncomfortable truths about soldiers is that many soldiers enjoy it, as much as it damages them and threatens them
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psychologically later, there's something about it that they really enjoy and that's a complicated thing for civilians to digest. >> there is a religious soldier in the film who he struggles with, well, you did what you had to do. he's not so sure that what you had to do is not good enough when he dies and god asks him what he did on the planet. >> that's right. it really tormented him. he said, look, we did our jobs out here. i wouldn't do it any differently if we didn't have to do it again. but he killed people. we're taught that it's bad to kill. >> you talk about the damages that if not all of them have experienced. i'm wondering, have you, as somebody who has been there -- you were off and on in korengal for a year. are you okay? do you have pts? >> it's tough when you're really
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young, they are 20, 21 years old, get traumatized by war and -- i'm old. and i have pretty good issues but, you know, like everything you sort of process these things better when you get older. i think i'm pretty good now. nothing really incapacitating. >> the film is "korengal." sebastian, thank you very much. >> thank you. you have breaking news from an interview with the deputy of national security? >> literally moments ago. i spoke with the security adviser and he told us that the white house chief of staff denis mcdonough has asked for a launching of an investigation of the inadvertent outing of the cia official. how could this have happened
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with the review being conducted to make sure that, in his words, it won't happen again? and on the issue of the 198 troops that are going to stay in afghanistan following what is supposed to be the complete withdrawal at the end of this year, 98 will stay there. how much will it cost for u.s. taxpayers to stay there? he tells us. and i'll give you a clue. tens of millions of dollars to keep that military presence in 2016. >> that's coming up in eight minutes. wolf blitzer, thank you so much. a monster weekend at the box office at "x men." does it say something about hollywood's true feelings about the president obama's policies? those little things still get you.
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jay-z, george clooney, steven spielberg, the list of star powers who backed president obama. the list goes on and on. for years we've heard so many comedians talk about how difficult it is to find a critic of president obama. if you look at the largest hits on the big and small screen this year, you have to ask, is hollywood finally getting over its love affair with the commander in chief? they were once an obama punch line. >> i have two words for you, predator drones. >> drones are now the inspiration behind powerhouse plot lines. >> why can't we use these machines here at home? >> from a looms presence in the new "x-men" movie to machines gone bad in robocop, hollywood has created its own role for the administration's most
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controversial policies. casting drone technology and mass surveillance as their top enemies. andrew romano wrote about this for ""the daily beast."" they are always a tool of evil that is an expression of the anxiety of the filmmakers. >> in president obama's second term, films are flipping the script on the president who was once a media darling. >> he still raises a lot of his money from hollywood and there are misgivings that have bubbled up and they have centered around the foreign policy questions. >> in an interview with mother jones, the president's terror subject kill list and pre-emptive technology as inspirations for the film.
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the criticism does not stop at the big screen. >> the technology that was used to control your drone is going to be used in a massive terror attack against civilians. >> the question is whether people are tuning in to the metaphors and underlying political subtext and whether they are just watching and eating their popcorn. >> it's never been greater. >> then again, who needs metaphors? oliver stone and others use this psa to voice their opinions of the nsa outright. >> we need to end, not suspicionless surveillance. >> the question is, of course, does a supervillain have any impact on its real counterpart? >> polls show that they are mainly unconcerned. if enough of these movies come out and they are always casting the drone program in a negative light, you can imagine that
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people's perceptions would start to change. >> and don't forget, premiering this thursday on cnn, the decade that changed the world, the free love, british invasion, all of it chronicled in the new ten-part cnn series "the sixties" from tom hanks, thursday at 9:00 p.m. eastern and pacific. that's it for "the lead." i'm jake tapper. i'll turn you over to wolf blitzer in "the situation room." >> thanks, jake. breaking news. end game. president obama will keep troops in afghanistan beyond this year but will combat really be over? and the white house accidently outs the cia chief in afghanistan. is his life now at risk? and deadline day for donald sterling as the nba demands that he ends