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good morning. thank you for joining us. i'm kate bolduan. >> i'm john berman. 120 people are dead after deadly blasts ripped through two mosques in yemen's capital sanaa. this is a country that seems to be spiraling out of control. a country that's a crucial front in a u.s. war on terror and according to reuters, isis has claimed responsibility for this attack. >> the mosque served a group that recently took control of the capital city and forced yemen's president to flee the country. let's get to more on this. senior international correspondent nick paton walsh is following all of this for us. nick, the number of dead just seems to keep on climbing. now this claim of responsibility that we're hearing from reuters, what more are you hearing?
>> we've seen the same statement that purports to be from isis, islamic state as they call themselves, and it does emanate from a website which previously have released statements from isis in the past. i should point out the fact that this statement says isis is behind it doesn't mean that they are. but it's already circulating on social media. i have to point out many analysts of the other potential suspects from behind a multiple blast like this, al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, many say they haven't in the past targeted mosques, shia mosques and in this particular instance in such a way. many scratch their head in yemen to work out who could be behind this horrifying new departure. the sectarian nature of which is so chilling for a country already falling apart like yemen. let me explain again. these are houthies being targeted. they're said to be backed by iran. there is a movement that's been successful in sweeping across
the country ousting the government of president hardy fled to another city in the country, and not the country itself, and they are shia. mosques targeted during busy friday prayer. horrific pictures of the damage shown on social media. those inside torn apart. hospitals are appealing for blood and it's the nature of the attack that has many wondering what kind of extremist would be behind it. it's relevant of al qaeda. one blast, suicide bomber hits the worshippers inside the building and people rush in to help and a second blast targets them and reports of a third blast in another part of the country. it's the extremist nature of these tactics which could indicate they are going into sectarian violence. we've seen that in iraq, syria and some say in other parts of the region too. so real fears about this being a new chapter in yemen's decline and now isis trying to get into the game here. we don't know if this statement
is 100% genuine. have to provide evidence, you might imagine, to explain how they in a country where they are not known to have a presence or capability have managed to mount an attack like this. al qaeda has a lot of presence around there. it's a very horrifying day for those in yemen and observing it and it's geopolitical importance as well. >> it would be a huge development if this isis claim did pan out. regardless, the death toll itself just a horrific day in what's been a very difficult, difficult many months of chaos in yemen already. nick paton walsh for us. thank you so much. we also have new information this morning about the terror attack in tunisia. the massacre that left 23 people dead. most of them foreign tourists. libyan officials say two of the suspects in the attack received weapons training at camps in libya activated from sleeper sel cells inside tunisia. >> in a new audio message, isis claims responsibility for this attack and calls it just the
start of things to come. cnn cannot independently confirm the authenticity of the message. nevertheless, it's troubling. we want to go to phil black in tunis what do we know about these suspects? >> reporter: well, as you touched on there, john and kate, yes, the tunisian government believes they were people who belong to a jihadist cell in tunisia before crossing into libya undergoing training they say in the east of the country around benghazi before ultimately crossing back and carrying out this attack. they haven't revealed how they have traced these movements or why they believe or who ultim e ultimately they met and who they conducted training with. that's a part of the country where isis groups operate training camps we understand. it's drawing closer perhaps to that link there. following on from that claim of responsibility by isis through an online audio recording.
that online audio recording didn't go into a great deal of detail. didn't explain just how or what evidence or provide any degree of detail that would suggest that these particular gunmen were in direct contact with isis leadership in syria and iraq. that points to a possible scenario where what's been described as an isis franchise now perhaps exists here in tunisia. the latest isis franchise where individuals, perhaps a local group, act out of inspiration from isis following its goals and messages to the degree to which they are prepared to conduct an operation like this. >> perhaps isis promising a sign of things to come. phil black, thanks so much. appreciate it. new strains in u.s./israeli relations and house speaker john boehner right in the middle of it again. the republican leader getting set to visit israel within the next two weeks. some people say this is a victory lap after prime minister benjamin netanyahu's surprisingly strong win on the heels of his visit to the u.s.
congress. that visit did come at the invitation of speaker boehner and against the wishes of the white house. >> president obama for his part has now put prime minister benjamin netanyahu on notice saying in a phone call with the prime minister that the u.s. is reassessing aspects of the relationship with israel following netanyahu's provocative declaration just days before his election that he no longer supported a two-state solution. he then walked that back quite a bit after winning election. let's go to the white house. michelle kosinski is there. michelle, what are they saying at the white house this morning following this really serious warning? >> reporter: they have had a lot to say. it's really been stunning to see the level of criticism by the white house towards what netanyahu said leading up to his election. the white house has called this divisi divisive, cynical, saying that it erodes the foundation of the relationship between the u.s. and israel. and the president made it very clear as well as the press secretary that this is a
re-evaluation now because of what he said of the position going forward. the press secretary in briefing yesterday said 19 times that this is a new look at basically the relationship and how the u.s. sets policy. also making it clear that that includes the u.s.'s constant backing up of israel in the u.n. and that's serious. >> of course one of the discussion points, one of the hot points between the u.s. and israel are nuclear negotiations with iran. on that front, the president sent a message to the people of iran overnight. >> reporter: this is unusual. it was a statement of happy holidays basically but included what was this video message with it that was pretty lengthy and said that iran's people -- their leaders have a choice. it was directed toward the people of iran but saying the leadership could either choose the path of peace and prosperity in agreement to keep a peaceful
nuclear program or the path of further isolation and sanctions that just keeps the people more out of the -- cuts down on their opportunities and keeps them out of dialogue with the rest of the world. we had a question, how many average iranians are really going to see this youtube video by the president. we got a response from the national security council saying the white house has taken pains to try to really get this out here. saying that we've subtitled it and shared it widely online through the white house website, youtube, state department's virtual embassy, tehran platform based on feedback we've received we know people inside iran are seeing the message. they said they put it out on voice of america and radio and television and they also state that our experience has been that iranians are tech savvy and have ways of circumventing iranian government attempts to limit the information. when you look at state websites, there's no mention anywhere in
any form of the president's address to the people. john and kate? >> michelle kosinski at the white house for us. thank you so much. also have this. new efforts under way to try to calm the anger that really erupted following the bloody arrest of martese johnson. officials from the state's alcohol control agency and local police will be meeting with uva students about two hours from now for a question and answer session about it all. >> video of the violent takedown of the 20 year old has triggered new accusations about excessive use of force. officers say the incident started when johnson was denied entry into a bar. we heard johnson's account for the first time through his attorney. he says agents were questioning his client about having a fake i.d. even though he presented a valid identification card and that the resting officer struck johnson's head on the pavement causing the gash you're looking at right now they claim required
ten stitches and johnson's mother is also speaking out. >> i think he was treated like an animal with his face pushed into the ground and to hear him screaming with nobody there to help him. >> more on this later this hour. we'll be joined by the president of the national organization of black law enforcement executives. ahead "at this hour," more on that phone call between president obama and israel's benjamin netanyahu. the warning, the response and what it means for the already strained relationship between the u.s. and israel. and then the madness, pressure, anxiety of getting into a top college. a new book says it's setting the wrong priorities and producing the wrong kind of student. i'm only in my 60's.
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peter, when you say you're going to reassess your relationship with israel as an american president, that's a radical departure from past policy. you say we are rethinking times here. radical departure from where we were before. you've been doing reporting on this. what is the white house say that israel needs to do? could benjamin netanyahu say anything about these comments to fix it? >> the white house has a problem. they're not reassessing the security relationship. palestinians have been going to the u.n. palestinians saying we approved statehood. obama administration has been working on pushing back saying negotiations are the only way toward creating a palestinian state so when benjamin netanyahu says i don't support a palestinian state, it cuts them off at the knees so they general
w have a problem. they need more from netanyahu than this. they need him to commit in some tangible ways and maybe a settlement freeze or statement about what perimeters of this palestinian state that he's for one day because he's never laid out those perimeters. >> first off on the most basic level, which netanyahu do you believe? do you believe netanyahu pre-election a couple days before, 2009, or now? >> there's a video of benjamin netanyahu from 1978 when he was a young man talking about how opposed he was to a palestinian state. >> people evolve from 1978. >> when he was elected in 2009, he was against a palestinian state. the only reason he came out and endorsed it is because he was under enormous international pressure. >> the pressure is still there though. >> but that's right except that i think what netanyahu wants is to do just enough to keep the pressure at bay while also remembering that everyone in his party is against the two-state
solution. every member from his party is basically against the two-state solution. everyone in his government who matters will be against the two-state solution. the politics at home even if he really wanted to be for it on the right in israel there's no constituency for it. he said he was against the two-state solution. he has a mandate for that. >> let me say this. what will it take for him to change his policy from the international perspective? will the u.s. -- if the u.s. keeps this up, how much does benjamin netanyahu care? >> i think the threat is probably less from the u.s. and more from europe. israel is more economically tied to europe than it is to the united states. the europeans are more critical than the united states. and if there's no peace process for long enough, the european economic relationship with israel may start to really suffer and i think that could change things. >> what do you make finally of what the president is saying and what the press secretary is saying? the fact they say reassess?
what do you think that means? >> i really think that barack obama wants some kind of legacy on this issue. he now knows that that -- i think perhaps their legacy could be a u.n. security council which laid out perimeters of a deal. they don't think benjamin netanyahu will negotiate it and not sure that abbas but put it out there for a benchmark in the future. >> legacy is to go against the wishes of israel and wishes of the israeli prime minister? >> i think he genuinely believes that wishes of this prime minister are leading israel to a dark place. >> fascinating discussion. thank you so much. ahead for us "at this hour," there was no crash. the head of the secret service says reports of agents running into a white house gate were not true. but why was video of that incident taped over and why doesn't the secret service keep surveillance video for more than just three days?
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exaggerated, overblown but unacceptable is how clancy says they did not crash into a white house barricade allegedly after a night of drinking. >> there was no crash. the video shows a vehicle entering the white house complex at a speed of approximately 1 to 2 miles an hour and pushing aside a plastic barrel. there was no damage to the vehicle. >> now, clancy says he still is
unhappy that he didn't find out about this whole thing no matter if it was overblown or not until five days later. surveillance video of the incident may have been lost because it was only saved for 72 hours. he confirmed at a hearing yesterday that it was lost and erased per that 72-hour policy. let's discuss this and much more with jonathan. he served with the secret service from 2009 until last year under president obama. great to see you. thanks for coming in. >> thanks for having me. >> from outside looking in, some of this might not surprise you but from outside looking in, the 72-hour policy seems a bit of a surprise. i mean, when it's confirmed by director clancy yesterday that the video was lost and that it was erased and then you hear from the chairman of the oversight committee calling it a flat out dumb policy, do you agree? >> i think that's something that
joe clancy will have to look back at and administrative policies of video capture and how long do we maintain that video. there are a lot of videotapes around the white house. it's one of the most secure buildings in the world. it's under constant surveillance by the secret service. so how long do you maintain that administratively? joe clancy didn't know about this incident for a few days. if you look at the time line, he didn't really know about it until more than 72 hours. so i have confidence that if joe clancy was notified that this incident had occurred in a timely manner, then they would have been able to preserve the integrity of those tapes for that incident. >> that's the problem. joe clancy wasn't notified of this until five days later. he says he's very angry about that and wants to fix that. how does that happen? you've been there. what are different layers there. someone had to affirmatively make the decision we're not telling the boss. >> i think that's one of the big
things that's going on right now. joe clancy has a lot of issues that he has to deal with throughout his organization. he's brand new. he's only been there about a month, month and a half. he has to restructure the entire management process of the secret service. this won't happen overnight. joe clancy needs the support of everyone to overhaul. >> you know these guys that were involved. >> absolutely. >> do you think that this incident was overblown? >> absolutely. i think this incident was -- >> does it make it okay? >> no. so there's two different things there. having an incident overblown and making it all right, drastically different. >> what was overblown and where did they violate when they consider it the right way of doing things. >> rumor got ahead of the facts. for many days, you know, rumor just perpetuated in the media and there are a lot of different media outlets reporting that they careened into a barricade and they ran over packages. we now know a lot of that was
untrue. so that's where things got overblown. it's going to take joe clancy and the department of homeland security a little bit of time to weed out the facts. remember, there were two incidents that night. one was the unattended package. first and foremost, we need to look at that investigation because that has the direct impact on whether or not there's a violation of security protocol. secondarily, we have to look at this incident. were any rules and regulations violated? were these individuals drinking? were they drinking in a government car? those facts have not come out yet. we need to allow -- >> you talked to these guys. do you think there will be disciplinary action? >> absolutely. this is joe clancy's first litmus test as director. if he does not get ahead of of this and if disciplinary action is warranted, he'll take it and he'll ensure that proper protocols were followed. >> can i ask you a separate
issue, this is a thorn in my side. secret service related but not on this incident. when questions were coming at the director he was at an appropriations committee hearing. he asked in the midst of this that the secret service needs $8 million to build a replica of the white house for training purposes. $8 million in the scope of government funding, not a lot. 8 million to you, me and everyone else is a lot. it was described as my producer said they're asking for an $8 million dollhouse to train in. do they need it? >> absolutely. absolutely. you have to look at the way that the secret service has been funded in the past and what we've done with training. one of the biggest problems with the secret service is that we have not had adequate training year over year. i applaud joe clancy and senior management of the service at this point in time to get ahead of that. we need proper funding for technology. we need proper funding for our people and for training and that $8 million replica is going to
be -- it will pay dividends for years to come. >> great to have you here. >> we'll talk about this. i'll take your perspective but you need to prove you earned 8 million bucks while not driving while drinking in a government vehicle. maybe. we'll talk about it later. thank you so much for being with us. ahead "at this hour," the death toll sky rockets in yemen after suicide bombers attack two mosques. why they were targeted and who is behind it? much more on this horrible death toll coming up next. meet the world's newest energy
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the death toll in yemen is rising after two suicide attacks in the capital city there. >> 120 people killed. that number seems to be rising. 300 more injured and reuters is reporting that isis is now claiming responsibility. i want to bring in paul cruickshank. paul, that claim of isis responsibility, we do not know if it's true, however, if it is true, that's a big deal. >> it would be a very big deal. absolutely. it would be a big surprise to many of us who follow this because isis is not thought of as more of a fledging presence there. isis and al qaeda in yemen can't strand each other. there's a lot of tension between those two groups. it doesn't take that many people to launch suicide bombings. four suicide bombers as isis is now claiming and now perhaps logistical support network. it would be a big deal indeed
and whoever is responsible trying to plunge the country into civil war. remember that bombing at the golden mosque in iraq in february of 2006, that was al qaeda in iraq, isis that carried that out. and back in 2006 their aim was to get shia to overreact to sunnis would be driven toward al qaeda in iraq and isis. whoever is responsible for this attack today in yemen are trying to do the same thing. they're trying to create an overreaction from the houthies and create a civil war kind of situation in yemen where the sunnis go over to the al qaeda or isis side and really strengthen jihadies. >> put this in the context of what's happening in yemen over the past month. it's been devolving into chaos. how bad is it now? >> it's unprecedentedly bad inside yemen right now and the houthies -- >> why does that matter? >> it matters to the united states because al qaeda in yemen has been the most active group in terms of targeting the united
states specifically u.s. aviation and there have been three attempts in the last several years to target u.s. passenger jets and they're getting closer and closer to building more sophisticated devices. the more space and resources these jihadies have inside yemen, the more able they will be to bring down an american passenger jet somewhere around the world. >> the subject of isis claiming responsibility we now have an isis claim of responsibility for the terror attack on the museum in tunisia. the guys trained in libya and went back to tunisia and carried out this raid. what do you know about that and what does it mean? >> we don't have proof that isis was responsible. clearly they are claiming responsibility for that attack. >> does that surprise you? that was part of our discussion yesterday when you just had gotten that information of this claim of responsibility and you said then there's noroof. do you think there would have been proof provided by now? >> think it's very possible it could be isis in tunisia. all of those tunisians that have gone out to fight with isis in
syria and iraq about 500 have come back and also isis is training tunisians in the eastern part of libya around benghazi and now tunisian security officials are saying that some of the perpetrators and some of the terror cell received training in benghazi region. it could be isis recruited and trained them there in eastern libya. >> they're not just training grounds in syria and iraq where we've been talking about it for months and months but now libya is training territory for isis. >> absolutely. just on the southern shore of the mediterranean just a few hundred miles away from europe. parts of tunisia are just a few dozen miles away from the southern most part of europe off the southern coast of sicily. about 25 miles away from tunisia. isis is on the doorstep of europe. it's concerning from the european point of view.
>> paul cruickshank, always good to see you. thanks, paul. ahead for us "at this hour," friends of the college student whose violent arrest was caught on tape are coming to his defense. they are saying he was always nice and kind to everybody. will you be successful? more successful if you go to an ivy league school? one author says not necessarily. he'll tell us why. if you suffer from a dry mouth, then you'll know how uncomfortable it can be. but did you know that the lack of saliva can also lead to tooth decay and bad breath? well, there is biotene, specially formulated with moisturizers and lubricants...
it's a nerve-racking time of year for millions of young men and women right now. high school seniors checking the mail every day. do they come by e-mail now? >> i'm told they do. >> to see if they got into their dream college or university. >> for high school seniors, this is their first experience with
the card hold reality of rejection. for a lot of them, it may seem like the end of the world. but as frank writes in "the new york times" and also in his great new book, this is the great brutal culling. what madness and what nonsense. the book "where you go is not who you'll be." he joins us here "at this hour." the students out there are getting the letters. frankly more will be rejected than will get into their main choices, right? >> some schools, stanford rejected 95% of its applicants last year. >> that's amazing when you think about that. a graphic to show the schools and their admission statistics. it's startling. >> when you look at statistics, you realize you can't give kids a message whether they get in or not will determine their future. odds are so stacked against them that you cannot have them tethering their self-worth to that. >> how do you convince them of that? there's a notion out there -- >> with a book.
>> in addition to a book, what do you say to them. it's the kids and parents and school counselors. >> colleges themselves and the way they come to students. look at the world around you. look at the array of successful people you know. they didn't all travel one path through an elite school to get to where they got. many paths to success and college is important but it's nor important in how you use it and not in the name on the school. >> to go back, why did you want to take this on? what was motivation? >> i was seeing kids, my nieces and nephews, children of friends, i was seeing them go through this process which has become so saturated with anxiety. i was watching them believe that what happened on a few days in late march or early april was going to have a profound affect on their lives. life is long. this is one juncture. you are what you make of your opportunities. don't tether everything to this one passage. >> in going to an ivy league
school, there's no guarantee of success either. you actually make the point in your book that sometimes it can be stifling and works against what you're after. >> kids i talked to in the book who went to ivy league schools and they fell in lockstep with the direction their peers were going and realize it's not who i want to be and they had to change course. there are kids who end up in that overheated extremely competitive environment not flourishing the way they might in a different environment. so when you're coming up to college, you really have to think about what kind of atmosphere is going to help you flourish and not just how exc s exclusive is the school you can get into. >> it fits into the difficult categories of things we need to strive for like getting eight hours of sleep every night. it sounds great. i know it would be better for me. in the end the easiest thing is just to continue on. that kind of fits into this category of you want to tell kids to find the best school for them but isn't that also difficult for a high school senior to navigate rather than just say i want to go for the
best college. >> it is difficult but it can be easier if those of us who are around them who are adults who know better and have perspective give them a saner and healthier message and truer to reality. >> how helpful when you have u.s. news and world report putting out their ranking? >> i pulled it up to figure out where my college ranked. 54th. >> did that make you feel good, bad? >> it made me feel like a failure. >> clearly it all went downhill from there. if you had gone to a school in the top ten, everything would be different. it's absurd. these rankings are absurd and our allegiance to them is absurd. >> it makes the problem that much worse. you have schools trying to game the system to get a higher ranking. >> you can game the system. you can't put faith in the rankings because they can improve their ranking by figuring out what u.s. news is looking at and makes sure it scores well in those categories. >> they can reject more kids and
get a higher ranking. >> they put at s.a.t. scores more because that's measured. >> anything that surprised you on your journey of investigating this? >> you know, i asked people if there was a school out there that had given them more great ideas and more students with great ideas that became successful tech ventures and they said yes, one school stood out. the university of waterloo in canada. >> very interesting. >> i wasted four years. >> you should have gone to waterloo. >> it's a terrific book. i recommend it to every parent and every student out there going through this hell right now. >> hell it is. all right. coming up for us, there are eight states in the u.s. without a policy requiring schools to test kids eyesight and can lead to blindness. this week's cnn hero is fighting to make sure children see clearly. take a look.
>> all right. >> i was a very active child. anything i could see i grabbed. i was barely four when i lost my vision in my left eye. the following years i was so angry. this was an irreversible change. 25% of children ages 5 to 17 have a vision problem. 25%. how can you fully embrace all of the opportunities available if you can't see them. >> keep looking right at the light for me. >> our program provides free vision screenings to all school age children in maui county. we actually use advance technology which allows us to test in seconds. had this device been around when i was 4 years old, it could have saved my vision. after the screening we deliver referral reports to the school health aide and for low income
families we provide access to an eye care professional and financial assistance to cover the cost of corrective wear. >> my daughter loves books. we never thought something was wrong so when i got the letter, we were caught off guard. >> riley reminded me a lot of myself. we both turned out to have pretty severe conditions. >> riley is only four years old. because they caught it early, we can help her. >> just seeing her even today with glasses knowing that her vision is going to be completely fine because we caught it, that's what we do. >> go to cnnheroes.com to nominate someone who deserves recognition who is making a difference. be right back.
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happening now, university of virginia students are getting set to meet with officials from the state's alcohol control agency and local police. they are hoping to get answers and reduce tensions following the bloody arrest of a uva student, martese johnson. on campus question and answer session begins an hour from now. >> video of that violent
takedown has triggered accusations of police excessive use of force. joining to discuss this with cedrick alexander. always great to have you. thank you for soming in. >> thank you for having me. >> you've seen this video. we've seen this video. we watched it many times at this point. what do you see in the video? do you see excessive use of force? >> i think there's a part of the video we don't see. what needs to happen very clearly, once virginia state investigation begins, which i think is the right thing to do is that this goes to an independent investigation. they have an opportunity to look at maybe more video footage that may be available that has not been revealed at this point because what's going to be clearly important is what occurred right from the inception and how did this young man end on the ground in the way in which he did. i think there's still a lot to be accounted for here in terms
of what actually occurred, witness statements, and any other forensic evidence that might avail itself to this investigation. >> it's a good of. >> it's a good point, we haven't seen what happened before this but we do know what happened before this, which is public intoxication and obstruction of justice without force. when you hear obstruction of justice without force, it makes me think that he wasn't fighting them physically so how could it ever be okay that he ends up with blood gushing from his forehead. >> something happened and that's what i think everyone deserves to know. the university deserves to know too what actually happened, how did he end up on the ground. the officers are going to have to prove the charges that they have placed on him based on whatever their account may be. and of course those statements are going to need to be consistent to what the findings of witness statements are and
also to whatever video footage that might be available during this case as well too. but let me note something here very clearly, is that in light of everything that's going on in this country, i'm not surprised as to what we see here, the outrage that we see, that people are speaking to across the country and in the university of virginia community. this is just -- shows us just how sensitive things are still in this country between police and community relations. so there's still a lot of work that has to be done, but i am very hopeful, and i'm also going to be optimistic, in that that university community along with that investigation and the community across the country at large are going to get to the bottom of actually what occurred that night, how it occurred and what led up to that young man being injured. we all noted he has an impeccable reputation in and around the community, there on campus, and he still has a bright future ahead of him. it is unfortunate what occurred
both with the officers now having to answer and to the young man, of course, who received injuries as well too. but we're going to work through this. one of the best things that has happened in all of this is that there is an independent investigation and it's going to clear up a lot of the questions which we have today. >> and there are a lot of questions. speaking to kind of the sensitivity and the attention that's being given to this issue right now, i want to read you just a bit, marcus martin, he was on the show yesterday. he's the vice president for diversity and equity at the university. he's also a doctor. he was on the show. he put out a letter to faculty and students. in it in part he said that this was wrong. it should not have occurred. he said it was highly unusual and he's also appalled based on the information that he's received. he's clearly troubled by it. the community there is clearly troubled by it. i know you are being careful to reserve judgment until all the facts are out, but are you troubled by it? >> well, what i'm troubled by is
the fact that i think any time we see a young man who is promising, has such an impeccable reputation in and around the campus and you see this happen to him, it certainly does create some pause for all of us. but here again, in all fairness, and we have to make sure that we're fair in this, none of us know what occurred until this investigation is complete. it is unfortunate, but if i had to say anything at this point, i think there's opportunities for law enforcement across this community to continue to enhance our training, to look at deescalation opportunities when they avail themselves. could this have been deescalated? it very well possibly could have been. but me not being there, we'll see as it relates to this investigation going forward. >> mr. alexander, thank you for being with us. the changing landscape of india is putting some of the country's most beautiful creatures at risk.
the change throughout india could be threatening many of that country's national treasures, especially the tiger, which is quickly disappearing. >> on a brand new episode of "the wonder list" bill weir tries to see how to save tigers before they're gone. >> punam and harsh have another idea. convince farmers to quit farming, let the land go wild
and live off the ecotourists who they hope will come in droves. >> so is your vision that all this area will be forest instead of farms? >> yes. happier people, people who look at the tiger as their own. and the next time the poacher comes here and he's going to say can i lay i trap, i'll give you 500, the guy will say no, your 500 is useless to me. this tiger is mine and don't you dare come here. looking at the situation today, that's probably the only solution we have, that the local people, they benefit and they take care. >> reporter: to prove their concept, they bought seven barren acres between two tiger forests, put in a little water hole and let it go wild. in just a few years, it is an animal super highway. >> oh, look at that, sloth bears. >> porcupines, leopards, you know, of course many, many
tigers. >> oh, my goodness, look at that. family of four. >> what do your neighbors in the big city say when you say we're going to spend the weekend with the tigers out in the woods? >> it kind of freaks them out. it would freak me out too, i guess, bill? were you freaked out. >> i was a little freaked out. my question is who is going to be the last person to see a wild tiger? there is more in cages in texas than there are in the forests of india, which shocked me. but good news, thanks to the work of folks like this and some other interesting ideas, india is one country where they're on the uprise. the last census had a few hundred more than a few years ago so there are signs of hope. the planet is getting so crowded and these fearsome beasts need to roam free for the genetics to work so how do you balance that. >> remember to watch the new episode of "the wonder list" this sunday at 10:00 p.m.
in answer to the question of did bill weir catch a tiger? >> by the toe. >> you'll have to watch to find out. >> great to see you, bill. thank you so much. that you all for joining us for a very special hour. before we go, happy almost birthday. >> thank you very much. hello, everyone. i'm ashleigh banfield and we begin this hour with the breaking news the second time in three days, isis is claiming responsibility for a staggering attack. this one outside of iraq and syria. it happened today. that is the turbulent capital of yemen. suicide bombers struck twice, two shiite mosques during friday prayers. the shiite militia that ousted yemen's president in january said 120 people are dead, more than 300 hurt.