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enriched. it looks at the places where it's been mined. it looks at the supply chain. what used to happen is you were looking at the factory a but secretly they're building a factory b. the key now is you can look at all factories and all mines. >> there's no deal until they're working toward a final deal, the june deadline we're looking at. >> and there's politics in iran as well. there are people there who oppose the deal too. >> fareed, great to see you. at this hour we're going to pass it over to "legal view" with ashleigh banfield. starts right now. hello, everyone. i'm ashleigh banfield. well tom to "legal view." a packed courthouse today in boston as part one of the trial of the marathon bomber gentle e
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tsarnaev winds down with closing arguments. tsarnaev's attorney admits the defendant pulled off the attack with his older brother killing three people and wounding 264 others. so a guilty verdict shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone. tsarnaev faces 30, 30 federal counts, more than half of them carry the possibility of a death sentence. and that will be taken up in the next phase of the trial, if in fact there is one. we're going to talk about this with our legal experts joey jackson and danny so value les. but first i want to get you live to the scene. take me through the scene so far this morning, alexandra. >> reporter: powerful opening minutes of the closing statements from the prosecution. you've got the packed courtroom. bill richard, the father of
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eight-year-old son killed in the son. you can see him careening his neck trying to get a good look at dzhokhar tsarnaev. you've got other survivors in the courtroom trying to comfort one other. listening and hanging on every word intently as the prosecution recounts the details of the crimes they have alleged, the story they've built over. they're recounting all of that for the jury and doing anytime a passionate emotional way. they started out by bringing up pictures of the note that dzhokhar tsarnaev skraled in the boat that that was his motive, he then explained to people why he had done it saying we muslims are one body. you hurt one, you hurt us all. the prosecution now telling the jury that dzhokhar and his brother tamerlan thought they
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were warriors here to unleash an attack on boston. they're also playing video from that horrific day. they're turning the sound up loud in the courtroom showing people maimed outside on the sidewalks and they're letting the jury listen to the screams, listen to the chaos, listen to the descriptions of what is going on out there, the horror unfolding. the prosecution making every effort here to connect on an emotional gut level with the jurors. >> what is dzhokhar tsarnaev doing when these screams are echoing through the courtroom and that chuld's parents are just a few feet away? >> reporter: the same thing he's been doing for the course of this entire trial, which is basely to sit looking straight ahead. he faces the judge. the jury is on his left. the witnesses sit to his right. he's got a screen in front of him so he has to see all of this. but we haven't seen him make a marked reaction. he's impassive, making no show
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of any emotion. he slumping in his chair, puts his head on his hand. does not give the jury any kind of reaction. the people in the courtroom, members of the public, family members of the survivors. >> stand by if you will. joey jackson and danny cevallos. if you're his attorney, one of the best in the nation, what are you going to close with because you opened with he did it? >> you're going to close with the fact that you have to consider the context. the defense brought in an expert to talk about the fingerprints and whose fingerprints were on the components of the bomb it was tamerlan. whose fingerprints were on the pressure cooker. it was his brother. and if you look at the writings and the searching done, the
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searches were of his brother's computer. what are they attempting to do? the defense is attempting to spare his life. not finding him innocent but allowing the jury to evaluate this in the context of him being controlled. >> she wants three cracks at ul of that information. during the guilt phase, the wrap up and the death phase we call it. what i want to do right now, if you'll just indulge me for a moment, is put up the charges. we're talking about 30 charges. don't do it yet because i want to give you a preamble. you're about to see a lot of words flying by your screen. you're not going to be able to read them all but i want you to look for a few words that are the common thread through every charge. start with page one if you will. we basically have a conspiracy to use a weapon of mass destruction. you can see that conspiracy word there. in the second charge do you see the aiding and awetting and in the third and fourth charge?
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let's fly through the screens now because you will see aiding and abetting or conspiracy in every single one of these charges. nine to 12 now, aid abet, conspiracy, look at that, the common tleed through every single one of them. we're halfway through now. there they are again. the reason i do this danny is because who cares in judy clark can convince the jurors that big brother tamerlan was really the ring leader with aidesing and abetting and conspiracy is a part of every charge? >> well the liability said it's going to be hard to defeat that. but again as joey pointed out, this is a gamut. he's looking ahead to the penalty phase, at least in terms of the guilt phase, you're right. the word aiding, the jurors are going to bring their normal application of those words to their daily life. and as much as the defense has
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done a terrific job of literally and figuratively saying tamerlan's fingerprints on all over this case, it's not that high of a threshold to find that he aided, abetted or conspired. i think that's a difficult hurdle for the defense to get over. and those charges don't change in the death phase. you still have conspiracy and aid and abet. you hand over the jury forms to these 12 laypeople who aren't lawyers and they're not used to this language and they're not used to american injury ris prudence and they've got in front of them anywhere in between, 16 and 60 pages that they need to fill out in that deliberation room. what on earth are they supposed to do? check yes or no? is that effectively for every one of these charges? >> pretty much they're doing that. but what you're doing is applying the fact to the law. >> a lot of facts here, joey. >> but the facts boil down to --
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as you point out, you see consistent themes. and the prosecution, make no mistake about it, has made a compelling case relating to devastation, to carnage, to destruction, to dismemberment. and when you look at all of that and apply it in the context of the indictment, i don't think the jury is going to have a difficult time. >> judy clark got an interesting case. i don't like laying bets but on this particular case i doubt that the deliberations in this would go more than a few hours, honestly, even with 30 charges. >> i agree. >> might take a little longer than that. >> aid abet, conspiracy. >> it won't take that long. i think the mystery is in the next phase of this which is the penalty phase. >> thank you for that. and our thanks to allen an dra field who is reporting outside following the trial live. by the way at this moment, the deen's from columbia's most
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revered school of journalism are doing some heavy hitting. they're calling out "rolling stone" magazine for major failures in an article that it published about the alleged rape at a university of virginia party. coming up we're going to talk about the legal fallout that the magazine could face and what this review means for the universi university. also a manhunt for this man, the accused mastermind behind a massacre that killed 147 students on a college campus in kenya. will a bounty on his head do anything to bring him in? and kenya was warned about an imminent attack. why did something call a rapid response team take hours to get there?
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new developments in the massacre at that kenyan university where al shabaab terrorists murdered at least 147 people. we are now learning that the lives of some students just might have been spared had security forces reached the scene faster. now i know you hear that a lot. but a police source says that kenya's so called rapid response was stuck in nairobi for hours because they were trying to arrange transportation. again they're called rapid response. officials are offering a $215,000 reward now for information leading to the capture of the attack's suspected mastermind. that's the man on your screen. his name is mohamed mohamud. earlier today kenyan war planes
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went to work. they launched an air strike on several al shabaab camps and get this, in somalia. part of a four-year-old campaign to take out the terrorists on their home territory. cnn's david mackenzie joins us now from nairobi, kenya. david, there were taukz that the kenya officials actually had some advanced warning that there might be an attack. how on earth can a rapid response team take hours to get transportation while people are dying? >> reporter: well, ashleigh, that's the question we're asking ourselves here on the ground. the police source said yes they had prior actionable intelligence that a university might be attacked over those days. and yet the elite squad which is tasked to take out terror situations like this was sitting in nairobi frustrated, well
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train with the right weapons and tactics and they couldn't get to the scene for many hours. in fact a politician who went to tour the scene got there before them. journalists driving from nairobi got to the scene before them. and in those hours, those again men were able to work with inpunty, a security analyst i spoke to said, you know, you've never going to save everyone in an instance like this but you definitely don't want all of this time elapsing to give the gunmen the time to do their terrible work. >> the suspected mastermind, mohamed mohamud, it's reported that he's the son of a government official. >> reporter: well that's not quite right. mohamed mahmud is a mastermind terrorist in charge of the operation in cakenya. the son of a gift official was one of the leading gunmen in the
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attack. that's particularly disturbing because that person graduated from nairobi law school and was really integrated in kenyan society. he disappeared to somalia and then came back to lead this excursion. the mastermind is in charge of cross border action into kenya. and it seems like this is not just the first attack that he's been involved in. but certainly kenyans have a big task on their hand, particularly since the lack of coordination of the security forces seem still to be there, even though many of them, the elite squads are trained by the u.s. forces and they tend to know what they're doing. >> thank you for clearing that up. i had con flated the two. but clearly two separate people, one the son of the official, the other that alleged mastermind, both of them being highly sought after. the bounty is out. thank you for that. coming up next, "rolling
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stone's" magazine start to finish failure. massive failure in its expo say of a campus rape. who can and won't and can't sue them. our legal team is going to weigh in next. "ride away" (by roy orbison begins to play) ♪ i ride the highway... ♪ i'm going my way... ♪i leave a story untold... he just keeps sending more pictures... if you're a free-range chicken, you roam free. it's what you do. if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. it's what you do. ♪ two wheels a turnin'...
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it is now abun dentally clear. "rolling stone" magazine
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committed a cardinal sin of journalism when it published a roundly discredited article about a terrible rape at the university of virginia. columbia yurt was asked to investigate this piece and now columbia is releasing its report. and let me tell you. it is nothing short of scathing. it says the magazine failed to engage in quote basic even routine journalistic practice end quote. "rolling stone" has now retracted the story and will adopt columbia university's suggestions. the magazine will not fire anyone believing that the mistakes were not meant. >> it was not the source's fault as a matter of journalism.
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it was the product of failed methodology. and we didn't feel that her role in the story should be a subject of a report that was seeking accountability for a failure of journalism. >> joining me now to talk about what went wrong with this story and the possible legal rep cushions is cnn senior medial correspondent brian tell ter and joey jackson and danny cevallos. to the legal team, stand by for a moment. you and i know as journalists that one of our roles is to try to get your spidey senses tingling right away when we talk to someone. and if those spidey senses don't tingle, we got a good story and we should go with our gut. this reporter said that was the story here. she was unbelievably oscar worthy. she even convinced her friends. so then what went wrong? >> what went wrong then, even
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jackie, the victim was confident and consistent, there wasn't enough vetting from other vex directions and sources. this reporter did not go to all of the friends who talked to jackie when this alleged rape occurred. did not go to the alleged accusers. in fact gave up and agreed with jackie that she would not contact with alleged ring leader of the rape. >> is that because some sources are different -- >> this is the most complicated story, an alleged rape victim. >> you really can't hammer away at them because they are allegedly victims. >> and now journalists are asking should we be granting anonymity to rape victims. this is how it works. we have to vet your story because we're going to help protect you by doing so. in the way rolling stone failed this alleged victim. >> i keep hearing this over and over, we failed jackie. why are they saying that? if she lied, who's failing her?
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>> some people want to believe something did happen to her. >> something happened. okay. >> something traumatic did occur. that's what the police said last month, there's in evidence that a rape occurred but we can't say for sure that something traumatic didn't happen to her. >> one thing we do know from the investigation is that it sure as heck did not happen the way the young woman laid it out. and the agrieved parties are now the university of virginia and that fraternity. and how about every student the there who feels personally maligned. danny, i'm going to get you to start this because you wrote a phenomenal piece on cnn.com on who gets to sue and get their good name back. >> in cases like this there's an easy answer right away. you take university of virginia and they're out. the university is a government sbetty because it's a state university. and therefore state or government entities cannot sue for defamation.
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now we move on to the fraternitity. as a general rule, groups cannot sue for defamation unless an individual has been identified. and in this case the argument would be well really just the fraternity was maligned. >> groups maybe not. but little groups sure can. >> smaller groups. i think in this situation everyone understands and knows and would agree that that fraternity took it on the chin. now as a result of this story and its largely believed now to be discredited and untrue because of the nonfact checking that "rolling stone" did and i get and understand it's important to protect your source and when you're dealing with something as sensitive as this you want to have the ultimate respect for a rape victim or alleged rape victim. at the same time there are certain pros kols that you need to follow that require and cry outer for corroboration so you know that it's true. and when you have a fraternity -- listen, you know. we've all gone to college. whether we've been in
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fraternities or not is a different story. you have to know that if the person in that fraternity, certainly their image has been affected, their reputations have been tarnished because of the false statements. i think it's actionable. >> so actionable. let's just say for discussion purposes, danny, this fraternity says i'm not letting this go. i'm going to court. i'm suing "rolling stone" i'm suing jackie if we can find her. i'm suing perhaps even all of the broadcasters who repeated the story because that publication continued and ultimately they're going to open themselves up to intense scrutiny. we're talking about, you know, young men and what young men do at university. and all of the skeletons they might have in their closet. it all becomes fair game. is that fair to the kids to do that? >> that's yes in a defamation action. lawyers will tell you defamation
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is so often threatened and so rarely carried out because they're very difficult cases to prove. both in the liability said but also the damages. you usually have to show that it caused you some actual tangible financial harm. this plaintiffs if they're -- >> breaking news. on exactly the topic -- >> a little rude, guys. i'm looking at my laptop here but that's because the fraternity in richmond, they're watching this press conference at columbia. they're about to issue a statement. they are going to say they are going to sue. this is the specific fraternity, not the university. they retained counsel a long time ago said they were considering suing. i'm been told by a source with direct knowledge of this, they're about to come out in a few minutes and say they're going to saw. >> do we know just "rolling stone" or does it get broader than that? >> it's not indicating about the writer in particular or the magazine. >> if you were counseling them
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would you throw that stroke very, very broad. you know how suits go. >> if you're a plaintiff you name as many people as you can because you're figure out the liability going forward. >> later. >> but you also have to consider what we call deep pockets. does the individual writer, author were reporter have the assets that rolling stone the company cousin? absolutely not. there's always a more palatable defendant and that is usually a corporate one. >> if you look at the report done by columbia, there's your liability. it goes to the issue of negligence. what were the breakdown in property to protocols. that serves as you blueprint when you're laying out the lawsuit. >> there are a lot of young men right now concerned that they would be deposed in this. >> they say they'll pursue all legal action against the magazine. the corporate pockets here, not the writer. >> the magazine, that's as far as they went? >> they've concluded they at
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least think they have a chance here. >> and briefly to danny's point, he's right. a lot of people threaten defamation and don't follow through with a lawsuit. in this case it's hard to argue that there were not tangible recognizable reputation nal injuries. this story went viral. >> going to be a settlement isn't it? you can't go out in the open saying i'm sorry i did everything wrong and then fight them? >> it needs to be. >> there's another whole element to this story as well. not only did this report open up all of those gaps in the magazine's reporting, but it also opened up a huge issue, and that is sexual harassment on camp campus. does it get knocked on the chin and suffer a huge set back? we're going to see how rolling stone's errors just might affect a real problem after the break.
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so, if you were just with us before the break, the breaking news on the "rolling stone" story is that they tl is some trouble ahead, even more than "rolling stone" is admitting to now saying that it made horrible mistakes in reporting a terrible campus rape at uva. in fact the fraternity that was singled out in that rape story has announced plans to pursue all available legal action against the magazine. they stopped short in the statement of anything past the magazine, anybody else who repeated that story or published that story as pel. clearly our fraternity and its
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members have been defamed. but more importantly we fear that entire episode may prompt some victims to remain in the shadows fearful to confront their attackers. if rolling stone wants to play a real role in addressing the problem, it's time to get serious. our thanks to brian stealther for getting that information and bringing it to us. rolling stone hurt its own reputation when it published the flawed report but it went further. it actually may have hurt the campaign. the larger campaign agains sexual harassment on campuses everywhere. cnn has a documentary coming out in the fall called the hunting ground and it explores that very sensitive subject. it also uncovers some pretty startling facts too. for example, only 5% of campus assaults are actually reported. >> the first few weeks i made some of my best friends. but two of us were sexually assaulted before classes had
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evenstarted. i went to the deen of students office and she said i want to make sure you don't talk to anyone about this. they protect the perpetrators because they have a financial reason to do so. i think it's fair to say that they cover these crimes up. >> he lectured us about how we shouldn't go out in short skirts. >> despite the fact that i had a written admission of guilty that i presented to them could only prove that he loved me. >> they discouraged them from going to the police. >> joining me now is amy zeering, the producer of "the hunting ground." the first thing i thought about this when it got so is big in the last 24 hours is that a million truths can be undone by one lie. is this a grave concern, given the amount of research you've done, given the scope of the problem of campus rape, will people be able to use this story
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as an an neck do tis to so many of these are lies? >> the truth is so many are not, ashleigh. so many are true. 92 to 98% of reports of rape are true, not false. which means that 92% to 98% of rapes -- did i say that right? 2% to 6% are false, which is the same statistic of any other false reporting of any other crime in our society. >> it's a big headline. a massive head line. and oftentimes the headline becomes bigger than the smaller facts embedded within. >> this is an issue of poor reporting which is going to happen and could happen with any issue. it shouldn't happen on the issue. the truth of the issue itself is that numerous students show that is happening at epidemic cases. so why -- that's where our
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outrage and concern were -- >> two of them were found guilty. >> a similar case with object penetration, just like this case. >> and a big difference. they videotaped it. they sent it around to their friends. they sent it intrastate. >> these things to do happen. that's where our focus and concern and outreach should be. >> so perhaps on the women out there and men as well who suffer these rapes as well, if they're afraid now of coming forward because of the backlash against this story whereby what about the universities? will they will able to use this lie -- let me backtrack that. it's not that she's lied. her story doesn't check out the way she told it. will they be able to use these untruths as cover for their behavior which in your documentary point out very clearly they're terrible at helping people who need help, the victims. >> yeah, no. we did find that time and again and that is a concern. but we very much hope not. and what we're seeing is that
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actually films like ours and other stories that are really well down by the media, the "the new york times" and other press -- the "the new york times" did a great article recently and there was a gang assault there, one person assaulted and several people witnesses. that was complete by well reported and a horrific case. it's the reporting and coming forward of those survivors that we hope will continue and needs to continue for this issues to get for traction. >> the film is great, it's "the hunting ground." i've seen the film. it's in theaters across the country now. been out a month and a half or so. i highly recommend you see it because it is an issue on capitol hill as well, many senators bipartisan effort to try to make the changes about the things that you highlight. thank you. we are likely in the final hours of the murder trial of former nfl star aaron hernandez. here's a big question. he's a big star and a beloved team in that community.
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pretty hydra ma. boy. there's really no other way to call it at the murder trial of a former nfl superstar, new england patriot aaron hernandez. you cannot call it with a dual with a doctor as a prosecutor tries to get a defense expert to admit you can definitely tell when someone is on pcp. >> and it's your opinion with pcp you can be under the -- or you can be intoxicated by the use of pcp come into close contact with somebody and they would not perceive that. >> that's possible, sure. >> is it likely, doctor? >> i don't know. >> when you say you don't know,
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what do you mean by that? >> you can't tell. it's unpredibltable. >> you can't tell anything about pcp. >> i didn't say that. >> from the front passenger seat. >> don't know. >> rear passenger seat? >> don't know. >> don't know what, doctor. >> the answer to your question is i don't know. >> susan candiotti is live at the courthouse and joey jackson is here with me. susan, i want to ask you a very simple question as they get into the weeds on who was on drugs and who was acting strange and those other two guys that are going to be tried at a different time. i want to know if aaron hernandez would dare or there's any suggestion that that man is going to walk up in front of that entire courtroom and explain everything to the court, take the stand. what are the chances? >> reporter: no chance at all. in fact the final of three witnesses is on the stand right now. so unless something drastic happens, ashleigh, it's not
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going to happen. >> so is this it then, the parade of all of the witnesses? that's sort of coming to a very close end? and still we have so many questions about this awful behavior. >> reporter: that's right. and the last witnesses we're hearing from include this pcp expert. and he's important to the defense because they've been hinting and hinting throughout this case that it was earnest wallace, the defendants being tried separately who were high on pcp and they were the ones who pulled the trigger. but the way this is being prosecuted and charged, it doesn't matter who pulled the trigger. so it may be a moot point in the end. that's why they were showing pictures of what these men -- how they were acting and what they looked like literally three minutes on home surveillance video of prosecutors say odom lloyd was murdered. doesn't look like they're hyped up at all which is one of the
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possible side effects of being on angel dust. >> just a yes or no answer here, please. is bill belichick, the famous coach of the new england patriots going to walk into the courtroom and talk like the owner of the courtroom did? >> reporter: not going to happen. they don't need him. >> that's crazy to me. you talk to your coach more than you do your owner. i still don't get that. i want to bring joey jackson into this. you're a defense attorney. let's say this is your client. you're sitting beside a superstar, a beloved new england patriot, a guy who walked into the courtroom with so much sheen it was blinding. and one by one, day by day that sheen has been tarnished. you don't put him back up on the stand to regain the fame and sheen and the essence of i didn't do it? >> absolutely not. the sheen has been significantly tarnished by the 131 witnesses that the prosecution has put on that stand after months.
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there's so many problems ashleigh when you put your client on the stand, one of which is the wrecking after your case. everything that you do as a defense attorney to mold your case, structure your case to place that doubt could all be for naught in the event the defendant does not do well. think about what he has to explain. you went to the industrial park with your codefendants and someone else who is now dead, odom lloyd. and you stood there? what was the purpose? what was that in your hand? so many things on cross examination ap and his answers will be scrutinized and if they don't make sense, it's all over. keep him away from the stand. >> all right. joey jackson, thank you. susan candiotti, keep us posted as to the next move. there is this other story that crossed our desks and it's rally astounding. two boys are in a coma and their mom and dad on your screen
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affectively so injured they were hospitalized. the father crippled, unable to speak, their mother stricken with convulsions. all of them severely poisoned while on vacation in the virgin island and now the united states justice department is stepping in. you're about to find out what they're doing, that they're looking for and what might happen to the people who own the hotel and the place where they got treatment for pests. and stomachs are growling. or is that just me? it's lobsterfest, red lobster's largest variety of lobster dishes all year. double up with dueling lobster tails. or make lobster lover's dream a reality. but here's a reality check: it ends soon. moare transportedcts on container ships. before a truck delivers it to your store, a container ship delivered it to that truck. here in san diego, we're building the first one ever to run on natural gas. ships this big, running this clean, will be much better for the environment.
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a powerful pesticide that is banned in the united states for indoor use is now suspected to have poisoned an entire family that fell deathly ill while on vacation in the virgin islands. two teenage boys in the family are right now in a coma. and now the united states justice department is stepping in. nick valencia explains what we know so far. >> this morning a criminal investigation under way at this luxury hotel in st. john's in the u.s. virgin islands after a family of four on vacation from delaware was allegedly poisoned by methyl bromide, a deadly pesticide commonly used in agriculture. >> it couldn't have happened to a better family and better people. they're one of those families that everyone likes to be around. >> the company who rent out a villa at the resort told cnn the
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pest control company term next fumigated the lower unit on march 18th, right in the middle of the family's stay. the odorless nearly undetectable gas attacks the lung and nervous system causing respiratory and heart failure. so toxic it's banned from use indoors within the u.s. even the world metrological agency says that methyl bromide is so destruct it i contributes to the thinning of the ozone layer. the familiar r father was found in a comma while his sons 14 and 16 and their mother was having severe seizures. the parents condition improved after that family was flown back to the u.s. both of the boys remain in a coma. term next told cnn in a statement that they are looking into this matter internally and
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cooperating with authorities and they join the community in wishing them a speedy recovery. nick valencia, cnn new york. >> i want to bring back in legal analyst danah cevallos who practices in the united states and the virgin islands. this is the united states. >> people get that wrong all of the time. they assume it's the bvi. we have three islands that are a territory of the united states, the u.s. virgin islands. so the department of justice stepped into this looking at the possible criminality of what's going on here. what does that mean for say the hotel or the condo that they rented and terminex? >> serious potential civil liability in this case. the general scuttlebutt about the u.s. virgin islands is it's a very friendly plaintiff jurisdiction. you might get a jury who would view the state side company poorly are for coming on to
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their home and putting their chemicals on their island. >> let's just say civil. okay. what about criminal? i mean that's -- i read up on the acute toxicity of this. this methyl bromide is apparently only certified professionals are allowed to use this in certain agriculture. not inside. not even outside in a lot of places and not everybody is allowed to get near this stuff. >> an easy way to think of these territories is they really function in many ways like states. the u.s. federal government has the same authority there as it would be enforce its criminal law as it would in missouri. and if it's banned in missouri by federal law, then it would be probably banned in the u.s. virgin islands. >> it's a beautiful place. >> that's crews bay. one of the prettiest places in the world. and it's a shame that something like this is happening in such a vista like that. >> i want to be careful about the methyl bromide. apparent think there ruz a unit down below that was treated.
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it's suspected but not proven. we want to make sure these family members are going to be okay. danny, thank you for that. coming up, comedian john oliver lands a big interview with the nsa leeker edward snowden. here's a punch line. he's making big news and you're going to hear it. (son) oh no... can you fix it, dad? yeah, i can fix that. (dad) i wanted a car that could handle anything. i fixed it! (dad) that's why i got a subaru legacy. (vo) symmetrical all-wheel drive plus 36 mpg. i gotta break more toys. (vo) the twenty-fifteen subaru legacy. it's not just a sedan. it's a subaru.
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comedian john oliver loves to crack jokes. but in an interview that quote any real journalist would kill for, the nsa leaker edward snowden, the guy was not laughing. john oliver grilled snowden about the vast reserves of u.s. government secrets he exposed, check this out. >> how many of those documents have you actually read? >> i've evaluated all of the documents in the archive. >> you've read every single one? >> i do understand what i turned over. >> there's a difference between understanding what's in the documents and reading what's in the documents. >> i recognize the concern. >> because when you're handing over thousands of nsa documents, the last thing you want to do is read them. so the "the new york times" took a slide, didn't redact it properly and in the end it was possible for people to see that something was being used in
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mosul on al qaeda. >> that is a problem. >> well that's a [ bleep ]. >> and that's something we're not allowed to say on this channel. oliver did eventually lighten up demonstrating how little americans do know about edward snowden. thanks for watching everybody. wolf starts right now. hello. i'm wolf blitzer. it's 1:00 p.m. in washington. 8 p.m. in nairobi. wherever you're watching from around the world, thanks very much for joining us. up first, the preliminary nuclear deal with iran. president obama calling it a once in a lifetime opportunity to keep nuclear weapons out of teheran's reach. his comments come days after the u.s. and other world powers reach a tentative agreement with iran. the final deal will be hammered out supposedly by the end of june. the road ahead

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