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y attorney will be making a statement reacting to the stunning news today that six police officers in baltimore, they have been arrested and are about to be charged with complicity various aspects in connection with the death of freddie gray. the 25-year-old who died in police custody. a stunning development today. the family getting ready for this statement. the attorney as well. they're about to walk in to this news conference. this will be the beginning of their reaction. we see family members and others walking to the microphones right now. we're going to hear what they have to say. among those who will be speaking including freddie gray's stepfather, richard shipley. and billy murphy jr., the attorney for the family. let's get ready. let's listen in. there's the stepfather, richard shipley. >> good afternoon.
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first, we will hear from the representative of the gray family who has brief remarks to make. then i'll make brief remarks. and then we'll take a handful of questions. >> my name is richard. i'm one of freddie's two fathers. we are satisfied with today's charges. these charges are an important step in getting justice for freddie. and we ask that whoever comes to our city a city that we love, a city that we live in, come in peace. and if you are not coming in peace, please, don't come at all. because this city needs to get back to work. the last thing that freddie would want it to see the hard-working people of baltimore
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lose their jobs and businesses because of his death. you all know that would totally defeat the purpose of what we are trying to work towards. remember without justice, there is no peace. but let us have peace in the pursuit of justice. thank you. losing freddie, the gray family has been put through real hell. one can only imagine the tremendous pain and suffering that this family has endured. for the parents loss of a son,
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and the sister's loss of a brother. freddie was taken too early, and too horrifically. and the worst of the grays' family days in the history of this family have been the last three weeks. today has given the gray family a measure of hope. we thank the state's attorney and her team for their unprecedented courage and their measured and professional response to this crisis. they have our gratitude in their pursuit of justice. however, we must be mindful that this is a first step, not the last. but while the state's attorney's office continues to do its work the community, this community,
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and other communities like it all over the country have much work to do of their own. the overwhelming number of people who have protested over these many days did not know freddie personally but they and the people of philadelphia new york cincinnati and numerous other cities numerous other towns, and numerous rural areas are expressing their outrage that there are too many freddie grays. and if freddie gray is not to die in vain we must seize this opportunity to reform police departments ss throughout this country, so that there are no more days and times like this. it is now time for every city including our own, to make all citizens of this country treated with human dignity unaffected
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by color, religion gender income or of the other irrelevant differences that wrongly exclude them from the human family. let us make this the overarching meaning of justice for freddie. freddie's family is gratified that the ministers elected officials and other s have stepped in to the streets to counsel peace, but the family is especially gratified that the young people are america are showing us the way. they are firm, strong and bound together in a mission for change. our young people have friends, classmates relatives, spouses, and co-workers from all races, all colors, all sexual orient
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orientation orientations all religions and all incomes who have enabled them to see with unmistakable and unprecedented clarity that we are all members of one race. the human race. with every ounce of their being, they express this universal desire for one country, one people and they will fight peacefully until that goal is realized. but with all of these unprecedented experiences comes enormous responsibility. because most of us have never been in a place like this before. young people must show us the way thoughtfully creatively and
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peacefully as three of the greatest leaders in recent history, gandhi martin luther king, and nelson mandela have taught us, the only lasting response top evil is love. freddie gray's family thanks you for the love you have shown them. now let us all show them the fruits of that love, real and lasting progress. the lasting changes we make will be freddie's legacy. and the changes we make in baltimore can set the example for this nation. we can start with body cameras. we can continue with tough and enforceable regulations for the on switch never to be turned to the off switch inappropriately.
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we shall demand better hiring better training better oversight and a new culture of policing. yes, a new culture of policing. where good policing is rewarded and bad policing is punished. where bad policemen fear committing misconduct, because good policemen no longer fear preventing it, correcting it, reporting it or prosecuting it. the blue wall of silence which makes policemen wrongfully conspire to conceal evil must come down. in the days ahead we will be
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inviting police experts, community leaders rank and file officers and other who have seriously studied what must be done to join us in what we hope will be a new baltimore to create and implement these reforms so that they will be a model for the nation. we must seize this moment. only this kind of lasting progress progress a truly lasting progress, a permanent lasting progress, can assure freddie gray's family and the rest of us that freddie's death was not in vain. let us pray for freddie's family, and let us pray that god will guide us to do his will, or her will in the pursuit of
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justice. so that this country will surely be and truly be a place where everyone regardless of their color or whatever difference may be superficially apparent can get liberty and justice for all. thank you very much and we'll take your questions what is your reaction to the -- >> man, you're fast. >> what is your reaction to the order of police saying that officers are not responsible for -- [ inaudible ]. >> well, you know, that's a -- premature statement, obviously. and if they too, are interested in a full, thorough and fair investigation and to follow the facts where they lead us, they won't say stuff like that. we haven't said stuff like that.
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we haven't said we believe these officers are guilty. we haven't said we believe they're innocent. we said that we want justice. and justice means following the true facts as best we can find them wherever they lead and apply the law correctly. and fairly. so that whatever the verdict is of a jury it will be a just verdict. >> mr. murphy the measure of hope are you within -- [ inaudible ]. >> you say this is a measure of hope. how concerned are you about the elapse of time between the charges coming today, going to trial, and the outcome? >> there is not going to be a rush to justice in this case, and our state's attorney has taken a thorough look at the facts and she has made charges.
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the timetable for prosecuting anyone whether it be police officer or citizen, is never the same. it adjusts itself to how quickly the investigation can be performed in a fair prompt, complete and reasonable fashion. accuracy is the order of the day, and we have to await the result of a trial before we can determine how accurate her formulation and her charges are. >> do you worry about evidence tampering, the story changing, being compromised [ inaudible ] [ inaudible ] -- >> >> we always worry about that. we always worry that things can derail the pursuit of justice, and as a formatter erformer defense lawyer well current defense lawyer and
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judge, i've seen things happen that shouldn't have happened. but i pray that under this microscope, we will all behave at ow highest levels and i invite the representatives of the police to join us in that pursuit. we should not rush to justice. we should not assume what the result of this prosecution should be or should not be. because we want justice. that's all we want. >> [ inaudible ] -- >> -- charged so quickly. what are your thoughts about [ inaudible ]. >> it will all come out in the wash. >> what does that mean? >> in other words, if -- it came too quickly, the results will show it. if it was a measured fair and prompt investigation, the results will show that. so we have to wait and see.
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but i have confidence in this particular group of prosecutors that they handled this investigation properly, and thoroughly. >> can you give us the charges, are you satisfied with each one the way it came through, for each officer? >> i don't think satisfied would be the correct approach. from my standpoint the charges made sense, based on what her recitation of the facts surrounding probable cause were. and she did a thorough job so that all of you know at least the minimum amount of facts upon which these charges are based. there was much new in what she said and much to digest in the days ahead, and we'll participate with you in digesting it. >> mr. murphy, one quick question. the district court records say that officer goodson is an african-american. the only one charged with murder in this case. i'm wondering if you could comment on that what you think
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about that how it informs -- [ inaudible ]. >> the justice doesn't have a race, creed or color. that's what we're all about here today. we don't want it ever to depend on anybody's color, anybody's creed, anybody's sexual orientation, national origin or religion. anybody's income. but the sad reality of american life is that in many places under many circumstances, it still sdun. still does. so what we pray is that this will be a human drama, not a race drama. that it willish a quest for justice, and for nothing else. that's what we want. that's what this family wants. is that what this family wants? yes. that is what this family wants. next question? >> [ inaudible ] indicate exactly when mr.'s gray suffered the fatal injury at what point during that morning? >> i know just as much as you do, and no more.
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and i'm not willing to speculate about that which we do not yet know. >> when did she tell you that the charges would be brought? >> you got two in, didn't you? she didn't tell me when charges would be brought. that's none of my business. that's the state's attorney's business. >> do you see a change of venue? >> oh, i think that -- i think that after a thorough and fair jury selection, we'll be able to find 12 people in this city who can be fair and just. for all of you who wonder about that the correct procedure is to see whether a fair and impartial jury can be selected before there should be any consideration of whether the venue should be changed. we anticipate there will be no irregularities in that pursuit and no arbitrary removal of this
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case from baltimore. that truly would be unjust. because the first crack at justice should be in the community where these events took place. and we don't want anybody to rob this community of that. i have the utmost confidence the utmost confidence, that justice can be had in baltimore. >> last question -- >> [ inaudible ] special prosecutor? >> as i expressed earlier, i have confidence in this prosecutor. burt in the days ahead, we have to determine whether or not there has to be a special prosecutor instead of a regular prosecutor who deals with the police on a daily basis, and like in long island, can be overly influenced from seeking justice even when injustice stared them right in the face where there was a completely
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unjustified choking to death of someone. that's the kind of abuse that took place there. we don't see that happening here. but the overarching solution may to be eliminate that possibility that happened in long island by the use of special prosecutors. >> is there a way in which [ inaudible ] just emotionally, when you or even family members felt [ inaudible ] encourage, the state's attorney revealed these charges? sense of relief anger, was there emotions to characterize how they felt? >> you know the fear that this family and everybody else in this same situation over the last 100 and some years has had is that this will be like so many cases of police brutality have been historically swept under the rug. there was no sweeping, and there was no rug. last question coming up. >> can mr. shipley answer a question? >> no.
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mr. shipley's not taking questions, and the reason for that are is how many of you are there? he is not going to have his peace and quiet and dignity disturbed by too many people seeking too many questions from this family. and that reminds me to request from all of you that this family be left to grieve in peace. i know you have jobs to do and i respect those jobs as do they but too many of you have too many jobs to do and too many of you are going to seek individual interviews of this family. so, please, don't follow them around. don't put microphones in their face. let them grieve with dignity, and they've done something that they didn't have to do. they stepped away from themselves and they appealed to all of us to seek justice. they didn't ask you to help them seek a conviction.
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they asked the eded you to seek justice. it's a very important distinction. this is is a very unusual family. please, respect that in return for their desire to seek peace in this city and simply justice for freddie that they be left undisturbed. i'm sure that there will be a time. i don't know how long it will be from now when they can emerge from an unimaginable grief to come out into the light of day so that they can be themselves again. but that that has not yet occurred, and i think you all know that. so, please, respect their peace and please let them grieve in the privacy of their own homes and their own lives. >> last question. when did you and the family find out -- [ inaudible ]. >> same time you found out. we were in shock.
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we -- and it was a good shock. you know what i mean? we went -- darn. we didn't use those words. that justice had been approached in this forthright and courageous manner by this prosecutor. >> were you all together? were you separate? played out on television? how did you find out? >> we found out after it was announced and the family got together and watched the recording on msnbc of the full press conference that she gave. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. got to go. billy murphy jr. is the attorney representing the freddie gray family. earlier we heard from the stepfather of freddie gray, richard shipley. they're making strong statements. they're talking about the breaking news this hour. the gray gray's stepfather calling for peace from demonstrateors on the streets and outside the city of baltimore
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right now tonight after a week of anger the protests over freddie gray's death have an air of celebration out there, because the truly xroid naerp a extraordinary announcement rookie prosecutor marilyn mosby said gray's death was a honlds and the fatal injury occurred inside that police van. she revealed all six police officers involved in his arrest now face charges. one of them accused of second-degree murder. those officers are now in custody. all six of them. the police union calls it a rush to judgment and a huge legal battle lies ahead. let's go to our brian todd on the streets of baltimore with much more. brian, what's going on? >> reporter: wolf for more than six hours into a spontaneous street celebration here at the corner of north after flue and pennsylvania avenue. this has been of course the epicenter of the protest since freddie gray's death. right now people are over here chanting waving signs, celebrating with people stopping here in vehicles. and a real expression a
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collective expression of joy and relief after prosecutor marilyn mosby dropped what can certainly be described as a bombshell. r. >> we have probable cause to file criminal charges. >> yes! yes! >> reporter: a stunning announcement today by baltimore state's attorney marilyn mosby, caesar goodson, the officer driving the police van with freddie gray inside was charged with second-degree murder. >> mr. gray suffered a severe and critical neck injury as a result of being handcuffed shackled by his feet and unrestrained inside of the bpd wagon. >> reporter: the other five police officers involved also facing criminal charges. ranging from false imprisonment and assault to misconduct and manslaughter. >> despite mr. gray's seriously deteriorating medical condition, no medical assistance was rendered or summoned for mr. gray at that time by any officer. >> reporter: the state's attorney said gray's arrest began on the morning of april 12th, when gray ran from three
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officers on bike patrol who made eye contact with him. gray was found carrying a knife, but mosely said there was no probable cause for his arrest and no crime had been committed. >> the knife was nos a switch played and a lawful. >> reporter: the prosecutor says police ignored repeated requests by freddie gray for medical help. >> by the time officer zachary novak, sergeant white and an unknown officer attempted to remove mr. grape from the wagon, mr. grape was no longer breathing at all. >> reporter: the baltimore police officers union says the officers charged aren't responsible for gray's death. >> i have never seen such a hurried rush to file criminal charges, which i believe are driven by forces which are separate and apart from the application of law, and the facts of this case as we know them. no one condones police misconduct. these officers did nothing wrong. as all of the facts surrounding this case come out in the appropriate forum, the officers lack of wrongdoing will be made
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abundantly clear. >> reporter: in a letter to mosby, the union called for a special prosecutor but the prosecutor dismissed the criticism she has any conflict of interest and vowed to listen to the people of baltimore who have taken to the streets seeking justice to freddie gray. >> to the people of baltimore and the demonstrators across america, i heard your call for no justice, no peace. your peace is sincerely needed as i work to deliver justice on behalf of this young man. >> reporter: we anticipate this protests, the celebration, is going to continue at least until 10:00, five hours from now when the curfew is in affect. as happy as these people are at this turn of events at this announcement many said they won't be truly satisfied unless they get convictions of officers in this case. we may not know that for several months, wolf. >> thanks very much. an air of celebration there. people are gathering in other parts of baltimore as well.
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they're clearly pleased by the state's attorney and whan she did today. let's get more reaction now. joining us the naacp representative. you just heard the representative for freddie gray's family, the stepfather. your reaction? >> my reaction is that this bringing of these charges is a tragic validation affirmation of the fears and apprehensions of this community. the fact of the matter is people all across baltimore, the citizenry of baltimore suspected wrongdoing and that these charges, not a conviction do represent an apprehension of what they sense was true. it came as as a pleasant and stunning surprise to many people all across the city and certainly within the naacp. as you know freddie gray died in a community in which thurgood
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marshall one of our greatest -- >> first african-american supreme court justice. >> this is an affirmation. black men are 20 times more likely to lose their lives at the hands of police than white counter parts, this is not an individual incident rather one in a long-standing national narrative. so we're stunned. >> when billy murphy attorney for the family says this is a first step not the last there is much work to do, and you're a lawyer yourself. you went to yale law school. there's a high hurdle the prosecutor's going too have to get over in order to convict these six police officers? >> absolutely. convicting a police officer of this kind of misconduct is very difficult. so we need not conclude that the job has been done. the job is being done. the facts will emerge, but as we saw over the course of the last
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24 hours, people have been waiting. they've been waiting peacefully. they have been protesting peacefully and as this whole process unfolds, we need to do more of that and as we wait we need to double down and advocate for the kind of comprehensive systemic reform of policing this whole tragedy points to. wolf, bear this in mind. as the state's attorney pointed out, there was no probable cause. at the ugly heart of this tragedy is racial profiling. in other words, if you run from a police officer, and the police don't have any reason to suspect that you have engaged in any unlawful conduct, particularly in a community where there's a tradition of ugly an ugly tradition of rough riding and police harassment and racial profiling and misconduct we need systemic reform. >> because the state's attorney marilyn mosby, she said there was no justifiable cause for the arrest that it was simply --
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and some of these police officers are actually now charged with false arrest of freddie gray. the representative, though for the police they said this was an egregious rush to judgment and they the six police officers in their words, have done nothing wrong. you heard billy murphy condemn that kind of statement. your reaction? >> my raemdeaction would be this. look at the family. the family has declined to rush, to rush to judgment. the family has said, we're seeking justice. we're not seeking to -- to rush to judgment, to hang these officers. they've exercised restraint. so i would ask why can't the police union do the same thing? the police department has admitted that there's, there was an unauthorized stop here. that freddie gray was confined in this van without a seat belt. we know that the interior of the van is not a cushioned suv.
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this is a very dangerous place to be if you're un -- i should say, if you don't have a seat belt on and you're shackled and handcuffed. so by their own admission, there was a breach of all kinds of police protocol here, and so i believe they've rushed to judgment in a way that does not speak well of them. >> you have confidence in this prosecutor? >> based upon what we've seen thus far and her emphasis on the integrity of the process. her emphasis on avoiding leaks. i believe a -- i should say a prosecutor who's fifth generation law enforcement. four uncles law enforcement officers and who's seen a loved one die literally on the footsteps of her home i believe those life experiences, her professional training and her demeanor thus far suggests that. >> cornell brooks thanks for coming in. >> thank you. >> we're going to continue our analysis of what's going on and watching what's happening on the streets of baltimore now. you see significant crowds already gathering, clearly
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demonstrations tied to the freddie gray case are under way now. moorg numbers. look at this. large numbers of people there, moving go to cnn's miguel marquez on the streets of baltimore right now. what's it like there, miguel? >> reporter: the city is alive.
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everywhere that you look in this city, something is is happening. right now down at the inner harbor you have, i would call them protestors yesterday. today they're sort of sell branlts sell branlts. sell branlts. celebrants. and baltimore city, serving food all day here. where you and i were talking monday wolf when that individual went over and punch holes in the fire hose right down there, what a difference this week has been and what a difference today is with the announcement of those charges. absolute bombshell. i want to show you -- excuse me pardon me -- show you what's happening here and has been happening all day long here at the corner of pennsylvania and north. people gathering, stopping traffic. the police are trying to keep the streets open and here we have the nation of islam coming up here, it looks like. it is just turned into a complete celebration with people
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lining the way here, asking people to, to honk. it's been nonstop parties with the cars open, the music on. cars honking. it feels like they've won the super bowl. wolf? >> all right. thanks very much, miguel. back to you. i want to bring in a special guest right now. congressman elijah comeummings. is delinquent, baltimore. -- his district. the ranking member also of the oversight and government reform committee. congressman, thanks very much for joining us. i don't know about you but i was surprised by the state's attorney today what she did. what was your reaction? >> wolf i was very pleased with what she did and i was very surprised that this decision came so early, but early this morning at 7:00, i was with chris cuomo, on his show and at that time, wolf, i said that we needed to leave her aileen.
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alone. leave her make her decision go over all the evidence and i had full confidence that this brilliant, young woman that lives only a few blocks from what i live and a tuskegee graduate a lovely young lady with high integrity, she would make the right decision and i had no clue it would come today, and at the end of our discussion this morning, wolf i said whatever she decides, because i believe in her integrity, her honesty, her pursuit of excellence she would make the right decision and whatever that decision was, i said i would accept it. >> so you're proud of her, what she has done. some people say she's relatively young. she's new on the job. as you well know filing charges is one thing, but getting convictions against six police officers, that's pretty tough. isn't it? >> yeah. that's a tough one. but the fact is that i was very
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impressed, wolf with the way she laid out her case. and explained step by step what she believes is her theory. the theory of the case and how things happened and i think that's what transparency is all about. making sure people are clear as to why she did what she did. and, again this is about pursuing justice. and without a doubt, she finally recognized this young man, mr. gray. you know i said at his funeral, wolf that i wondered if anybody saw him, a young man striving simply to be alive. simply to be a human being, and it seems as if he was invisible, like so many of our youth in my community are today. but i thanked her for seeing him. and recognizing that he had a valuable life, and so we will now -- now that the wheels of justice will turn, certainly the
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wheels of justice turn slowly but, wolf at least tonight they're turning. >> and i know for you this is very very personal and i ought to give you a lot of credit congressman, because you've had the guts to go out on the front lines the last few nights and make your presence felt, and you've done an impressive job. if you can, i have several more questions, i want to get your reaction to other developments in this case. can you stick around, we'll continue our conversation? >> i'd be happy to. >> all right. take a quick break. much more with congressman elijah cummings. a leader there in baltimore. a quick break. you're looking at live pictures coming in. financial noise financial noise
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we're watching new demonstrations in baltimore right now. following today's dramatic
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announcement that six police officers are being charged in connection with the death of freddie gray. freddie gray who died in police custody. back with congressman elijah cummings the maryland democrat his district, where all of this occurred. what do you say to the police union representatives who said this decision was rushed today, they say that these six police officers did absolute nothing wrong. what's your reaction when you hear talk like that from representatives of the police union? >> well first of all, i would tell them that obviously they don't know our state's attorney and if they did, they would understand that she is a woman who reaches the highest levels of excellence and she is a person who believes truly in justice. and an outstanding attorney and she's going to do what is right. like i said i would have felt comfortable with whatever she did, because i knew she was going to do a, make sure that an
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investigation was thorough. make sure she had all the facts available to her, and if, wolf if she didn't have all the facts, i knew she knew she had the backup of the fbi, the police -- the baltimore city police department the sheriff's department forensic scientists from all over the world if she needed them and knew she would then take the law and then size it up with the facts, and make a reasonable, fair and just determination. so i would say to them as she said this is her jurisdiction, this is her job. she didn't want to turn it over to anybody else. she would handle it herself. that's what we elected her to do and she did it. that's what i would say. >> congressman, you and i have known each other for a while. and i know this all hits really close to home for you. and you understandably get emotional when you talk about these kinds of issues. tell our viewers here in the united states and indeed around the world who are watch aring right now why this is all so personal for you. >> first of all, i live in the
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city and i live not too far from where this young man died. and i see so many children who feel like they have no hope. just last night, a 16-year-old boy said to me mr. cummings i want to hope, but i feel like i'm living in a coffin, clawing trying to get out. and i tell you, when i think about our young people, i want them to have hope. i want them to believe that they have a destiny, and, wolf i said at the funeral of mr. president gray, i said for so long i've said, our children are the living messages we send to a future we will never see. then i said, that's changed. now our children are sending us to a future they will never see. there's something absolutely wrong with that picture, and to all -- let me say this -- the only thing that i hope for was that, that the police and
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all of those involved in this investigation would pursue the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. and i believe that's exactly what has happened. and so now we go to the, the trial phase, and the officers will have an opportunity to defend themselves, but one 24i7kthing is for sure. the young people that have come out and peacefully protested, they now understand that justice does work. there is some movement. before i mean many of them told me they were just surprised that there would ever be anything any kind of charges, because they're not used to that. and so, again, i think we need to wait and sigh. let this thing play out, and i you know let justice do what justice does. >> elijah cummings the representative in congress of this district in baltimore. congressman, as i said before
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thanks so much for what you're doing down there on the streets of baltimore. we're all grateful to you. >> thank you, wolf. >> our cnn anchor don lemon actually had a chance to sit down with baltimore state's attorney marilyn mowssby who announced charges earlier today. don's joining us live. don, tell us what she said. >> reporter: it was a very interesting interview. it was just minutes after she gave that press conference announcing the charges against the officers on the steps there here in baltimore. she -- listen she is a very strong, very determined woman. and i wanted to know and i think many people did, how did she come to that conclusion so quickly about whether to charge those officers? is most people think it just started just after, after freddie gray's death. she told me it didn't. she had been conducting her own independent parallel investigation all along even
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before freddie gray died. here's what she said. >> from the very beginning, i conducted a thorough investigation of this case. we leveraged the police department's information and investigative information but i sent my own investigators to the scene at the time that this incident occurred. so this is not after he he unfortunately passed away. this is from the very beginning. i put together my own investigative team. i worked and collaborated with the baltimore city sheriffs department. so yeah i was briefed on all of the information that the police department had, regarding this case. but it didn't take away from the fact that i was conducting my own independent review of those facts. >> so she explained, to explain how so quickly. because the preliminary report came down a day earlier than everyone had thought. and no one thought on this day, on this friday right after the report came out that she would be on announcing these charges
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against the officers. i also talked to her about some people who are concerned about a fair investigation. whether or not the officers would get a fair trial, so to speak. she assured not only me but the public of that not only the people of baltimore, but people of the united states who are paying close attention to what's happening here in baltimore. take a listen. >> the duty of a prosecutor is to seek justice. not convictions. that was the reason why i became a prosecutor. you know i looked at the criminal justice system that disproportion disproportionately affects so many. i wrestled with do i want to be a criminal defense attorney or do i want to be a prosecutor. i ultimately decided that the awesome amount of discretion that not only affect the victims of crime, but also the defendants your discretion affects people's lives, your discretion has consequences on our community and the best way to reform a system like that is
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to become a prosecutor. >> and wolf you know how she made the decision to become a prosecutor? she had a death in her family. she was 14 her favorite cousin she said they were best friends, he got mistaken identity got shot and killed mistaken identity as a drug dealer. he obviously was not the drug dealer. she said that affected her then that informed her, her outlook on life. and it inspired her to become a prosecutor. so she has known very early on that she wanted to be in law enforcement, she wanted to be an attorney and she ended up being a prosecutor. she comes from a law enforcement background. she talked about her grandfather during the press conference and she has uncles again, her grandfather and other members who have worn the badge. so she knows what it's like at least to be in the world of policing. >> she's only 35 years old, we're showing viewers pictures
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of what's happening on the streets. people are celebrating her decision. you got to talk to her a little bit. give us a little more insight into this remarkable young woman. >> yeah. that crowd that you're talking about, also wolf was just here. they're just leaving here and they're going through the streets of baltimore. but we have seen a number of different crowds not just one, there are a couple that have been going in and out here. i got to know her, i think in that time that the hour that we spent together today, i got to know marilyn mosby a little more personally. she talked about her husband, who is a city councilman here. we talked about whether or not that is a conflict of interest as some have said. she says not at all. my husband and i, you know we're together. but this is professional. this is my career and i am sworn, i made an oath to the people of baltimore, she said for not just convictions, but to seek justice and that's what she's going to do. she's going to do that for every district in baltimore and not
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just the district that her husband represents. she said one of the biggest jobs that she's had, that she has and quite frankly one of the hardest jobs she has is being the mother of two children she has a 4-year-old and a 6-year-old. she said when she gets home from work. they're at the door looking at the watch going -- mommy you're five minutes late. mommy, you know you're not here on time. and she said that's what's most important to her. she got a note from her daughter she said that you're an awesome mother and when i grow up i want to be a mother prosecutor. and she said that touched her, because her daughter said mother first. and instead of prosecutor and that let her know that she was doing the right thing as it pertained to her children. she also said it was a full-time job being a wife as well. she has her hands full and she's not concerned at all about the spotlight, about the pressure she's just concerned about getting it right and bringing justice. >> i think we all agree, she was very very impressive earlier today. i know you're going to have the
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happening now, officers charge six members of the baltimore police force now stand accused of crimes including second-degree murder in the arrest and death of freddie gray. this hour the stunning announcement and the reaction that's unfolding right now. prosecutor praised, she's a hero to many protesters who have been demanding justice. but will the charges she leveled against the police officers stick? we'll have the new interview with the state's attorney marilyn mosby and we're live in baltimore as people take to the streets and this dramatic new turn in the freddie gray case. sinks in. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer, you're in "the situation room." >> i've heard your calls for no justice, no peace.
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however, your peace is sincerely needed as i work to deliver justice on behalf of freddie gray. >> we're following the demonstrations in baltimore right now. you heard the city's chief prosecutor urging calm after her stunning announcement of criminal charges against six police officers in the death of freddie gray. tonight the gray family says it's satisfied with the charges. but the police union is accusing the prosecutor of a rush to judgment saying the six police officers involved in gray's arrest did nothing wrong. the most severe charge second-degree murder for the driver of the police van, we just got the court docket confirming that. one of those six police officers the driver of the van, is in fact himself an african-american. state's attorney marilyn mosby says gray's critical neck injury happened while he was in that van. she said officers repeatedly failed to buckle him in or give
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him medical care after they arrested him. and they say that arrest to begin with was illegal we have correspondents analysts and newsmakers we're covering this breaking story. our brian todd and miguel marquez are out in the streets with the none straighters. but first we go to our justice correspondent, pamela brown, for all the information about gray's arrest and death. >> baltimore's chief prosecutor making a bombshell announcement that all six involved police officers were complicit in freddie gray's death. first by failing to buckle him into the van and second by denying him medical help multiple times. even before the officers put gray in the van, the prosecutor says they committed a crime. >> we have probable cause to file criminal charges. >> baltimore state's attorney marilyn mosby, not mincing words. saying even before police officers placed freddie gray inside the police van -- he never should have been arrested. >> no crime had been committed
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by mr. gray. >> gray was found carrying a knife, but the prosecutor said it was legal. >> mr. gray was placed in a prone position with his arms handcuffed behind his back. it was at this time that mr. gray indicated that he could not breathe. and requested an inhaler to no avail. >> mosby says not only did the officers fail to get gray medical help they made another grave mistake when they put him into this police van. >> at no point was he secured by a seat belt while in the wagon, contrary to a bpd general order. >> the van drove away from the scene. and while the exact route is unknown, made its first stop here. where officers took gray out of the van to put shackles on his legs and flex cuffs on his wrist. >> officer miller officer nero and lieutenant rice loaded mr. gray back into the wagon. placing him on his stomach, head-first on to the floor of the wagon. one again, mr. gray was not secured by a seat belt in the
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wagon. >> the officer driving van made another stop here. >> >> despite stopping for the purpose of checking on mr. gray's condition. at no point did he seek nor did he render any medical assistance for mr. gray. >> several blocks later, the driver stopped for a third time and three other officers arrived to check on gray. >> mr. gray at that time requested help. and indicated that he could not breathe. officer porter asked mr. gray if he needed a medic. at which time mr. gray indicated at least twice that he was in need of a medic. >> mosby says the officers did not call a medic and once again, failed to seat belt gray. the van's driver decided to move on. it was at fourth stop here the man picked up this man, donte allen, who was put on other side of a metal partition. >> the only thing i heard was someone over there banging. like someone was banging their head or something.
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>> 0 sergeant alicia white and oerter officer and officer goodson observed mr. gray unresponsive on the floor of the wagon. >> it wasn't until 25 minutes later when the van reached the police station that a medic was called. at that point she said gray was in cardiac arrest and not breathing. the medical examiner and prosecutor concluded gray's death was a homicide. >> mr. gray suffered a severe and critical neck injury as a result of being handcuffed shackled by his feet and unrestrained inside of the bpd wagon. >> all six officers are facing criminal charges, including assault and misconduct. the van's driver facing the most serious charges, including second-degree depraved heart murder which carry as sentence of up to 30 years. all officers are in custody and an attorney for one of them said today this was an egregious rush to judgment by the prosecutor and vows to fight the charges. the process is far from over. >> our thanks very much for that pamela brown. the charges against the six
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officers caught a lot of people in baltimore and around the country by surprise coming as quickly as they did after police wrapped up their investigation. it turns out the state's attorney had been conducting her own independent investigation all along. let's check in with cnn's brian todd on the streets of baltimore getting more reaction. brian, what's going on? >> wolf this is gathering of several thousand marchers that have gone from the inner harbor and they're going to central booking, that's the word that one of them has just told us. i'm here with wayne call a graduate student at loyola. 23 years old. wayne, why did you want to join this -- tell me what was going through your mind this morning when you heard the prosecutor read out the charges. >> what was going through my mind was, as the city i don't care if you're famous or a regular person like me we're all human people. at the end of the day, we're all human and nobody should ever be above the law. i thought that justice was beginning to be able to be served. >> you're studying school
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counseling. you're going to be dealing with a lot of young people in your career what do you hope for the future of this city do you think it's bright? or do you think this has caused a divide? >> i think it's bright as a young man like me from baltimore, a single parent home my mom and the help of mentors around me made me become the man i am today. i know if these kids had a leader that values and trust their opinion, anything is possible. anything is possible. >> wayne, thanks for talking to us good luck to you. >> a sampling of one of these marchers wolf they say they're going to circle central booking, i'm not sure how far we're going to go this may be close to their final destination. >> this is where the six police officers are being held at least right now. brian thank you very much. joining us from baltimore is the majority leader of the maryland state senate katherine pew, she's president of the national black caucus of state legislators. senator, thanks very much for joining us you and elijah cummings have been on the front lines over the past few nights trying to keep an orderly
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presence and peace. what's your reaction to the charges announced by the state's attorney marilyn mosby? >> i think that marilyn will serve as a model. our state's attorney will serve as a model for how these cases should be brought to justice quickly. but let me just say, as she said earlier, she has looked at the case very thoroughly. she started immediately on this case and i think that people thought she would wait until she got the information from the police department but as she said she conducted her own, independent investigation. think that's what even has more validity to the charges that have been brought. >> what's your response to the police officers' representatives when they say the state's attorney marilyn mosby, rushed to judgment? >> well i don't think that the state's attorney rushed to judgment and i would hope that everybody in america knows that we believe that for the most part police officer who is come into our community to protect and serve for the most part that they do. but this case with mr. gray is
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a symbol he becomes a symbol unfortunately for racial profiling that exists across this nation. and that is why you can see all of these protests not just here in baltimore, but in philadelphia and in new york. because what people are saying is enough is enough. because people should not have to come in front of the police and feel intimidated or walk past them in fear and feel that their lives might be taken and we've seen enough of this across the country. and thank god for the media. thank god for social media and independent individuals inside of our communities, who take it upon themselves to make sure that information like this is shared with the proper folks and this is why we've ended up with this kind of indictment against these many officers. and it's a sad day for the baltimore police department but at the same time it is a bright day for the gray family. >> what i hear you saying senator, is that racial profiling, use that phrase you believe he was arrested simply because he was black? >> well let me just say anybody,
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nobody black, white or indifferent, should ever have to encounter the police and fear for their lives. and i just think that we see too much of this not just people of color, no one, no one and i think that's why as the president of the national black caucus of state legislators, one of the things that i'm calling for is that we continue to or we allow police officers to independently have psychiatric evaluations so that we can know that they still have the propensity to protect and serve our communities. i believe that police departments should reflect their communities in which they serve and that there needs to be cultural diversity training among our police officers so that they can understand how they deal with our neighbors and deal with our communities. no one, no one should be engaged in this kind of behavior. but also what mr. gray becomes, is a symbol when you look at the neighborhoods in the communities in which he lives, he becomes a symbol of some of the transitions that need to take place. the economic development, the job opportunities, the economic opportunities, the housing issues that need to be dealt with in our community and
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communities similar to us around the nation. >> you think the 10:00 p.m. curfew needs to remain in effect now? >> well i hope that we see that lifted not just because people are peacefully demonstrating, but because the economic impact that it's going to have on our city. so you know this is the mayor's call and we leave that call to her. but there is call from around our business communities specifically and people in the community who say, we don't need to be policed at this time. we understand the process, we're willing to let justice roll and do what it needs to do in order to bring full full full restitution and what we need for mr. gray. and i think that with what the prosecutor has done today, that we will have that. >> is that the general -- >> i think we'll have peace in the streets as well. >> the favorable reaction is that the general reaction you've heard in talking to people through baltimore throughout the day? >> absolutely. i've gone from one end of our district to the other. i'm down here in front of city
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hall. and people are just ecstatic what this has done is given many of young people in our communities faith in the justice system that it can work on their behalf and people need to hear that around the nation. that's why i say that marilyn mosby will become the model in terms of how these cases should be handled moving forward we look forward to justice continuing to be served. we want to let the justice process continue and we have faith in marilyn mosby, to prosecute this case and to make sure that justice is had for mr. gray. >> are you going to be out there tonight once again with congressman elijah cummings urging everyone to remain calm and not violate the curfew? >> i will be out there with my community. because one, i think that they are celebrating. and all we're doing seven couraging people to do this in a peaceful manner. we understand that people will be a lot more excited about this particular thing that has come down from our state's attorney. and this indictment that has come down from our state's
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attorney. so we want folks to be joyous but at the same time continue to be peaceful and we know that that will happen tonight. it feels good to be among the people anyway. that's what we do on an ongoing basis, that's why it's so easy to walk among your community members and say look let's just do this in peace. and as you see with all of the people demonstrating in baltimore, it's been very very peaceful. and i'm grateful for that. >> we all are. and we should be. do you think it would be appropriate any time soon for the new attorney general of the united states to visit baltimore? is it too early for that? or for that matter the president of the united states? >> no absolutely not. i had a conversation with the white house yesterday. and i think others have had conversations and i know that elijah cummings our congressman have had conversations with our attorney general, loretta lynch as relates to this case. ways on a call yesterday with the white house and they assured us as members of the legislative black caucus and as the national black caucus of
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state legislators that there will be justice. and they are in fact conducting a civil and a criminal investigation as well. so any time we welcome both of them. >> they would both be welcome. senator pugh i want you to stand by and i want to economic in with brian todd he's out there with the marchers what are you seeing, brian? >> well we're a little bit behind the head of the procession. but we understand that the procession has at least come to one of the ramps that comes off of interstate 83. they have not gone on to the interstate. if they were to do that that may cause an issue with the police. police choppers just circled very low overhead. i don't believe they've made their way an to the interstate. they may be figuring out pretty much where they want to go. they did tell me one of the protesters told me they just wanted to come here to central booking, a photojournalist, pan over and show you we're at one of the holding facilities one
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of the jails in baltimore. where we believe the officers may at least be processed, maybe one of these buildings in this compound. i'm not quite sure. tom, if you can pan over here we can show the protesters seemingly turning right. now we'll have to catch them see where they're going. they said they were going to stop here. but they don't seem intent quite on stopping here yet. >> and there's significant numbers, brian, right? >> absolutely. wolf this is one of the largest protest marches we've covered. this is several thousand people it started at baltimore's inner harbor and has come several blocks this way. a lot of time these things are very organic, they don't necessarily have a plan on where they're going, where they're stopping. i'm not going to venture a prediction on where they're going, that would be silly. but they are energetic, they're spirited spirited they're in good spirits because of the announcement of the charges. and of course at least right now, tonight, they're largely
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peaceful. >> all right, brian, stand by, i want to check in with miguel marquez, he's with the marchers where are you, miguel? >> we're up at pennsylvania and north avenue the epicenter of so much of the anger this weekend, the protests want to show something here a complete turn of events. music going on out here out here on the street excuse me you can see -- excuse me you can see people are encouraging people to honk their horns, they've been doing all day. the national guard is still out here. can you see them right there and if you turn all the way around here eddie, members of the omega psi fraternity is here this entire area has gone from protest to celebration. >> interesting stuff. fascinating stuff. all right i want you to stand by as well miguel marquez is standing by state senator catherine pugh is with us we'll resume our special coverage right after this.
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we're following the breaking news large crowds gathering tonight in baltimore. responding to the criminal charges filed against six police officers in the death of freddie gray. let's check in with brian todd. he's on the streets of baltimore. from the air you can see the pictures brian. they're moving along very peaceful right now. almost what a celebratory nature of these protesters, these marchers? >> they are celebratory, wolf. they justed right on north calvert street from chase street. we can give you a view ahead of us this procession goes on for several blocks they're very happy. they're relieved at the
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announcement of these charges. but still kind of defiant. they're chanting what do we want justice, when do we want it now. a lot of protesters have told us that as happy as they are about the announcement of the charges against the six officers they won't be satisfied unless there are convictions in this case. right now they are still defiant. they are still gathering in large masses here this is one of the biggest protest marches we have covered. you can see just the density of this column of people. they're completely stretching across the street for several blocks. very spirited very energetic as many of the crowds have been. their tactic is lushl i to walk as far as they can and occasionally block intersections, they do disrupt traffic. they've told us in the past that that is almost one of their goals, the way that they can make a statement. but they do tend to move along fairly quickly when they do
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disrupt traffic no traffic is going to get through these intersections, as long as these people are walking through this section of town. >> very impressive march, very peaceful. right now traffic is being disrupted. they're moving along and clearly celebrating what they think is an important development. clearly in this case. i want to bring in one of the protest organizers jane morrison is joining us now, leader of the ymc community coalition. jay, we spoke yesterday. dell us what you think about what happened today. what's your reaction? >> wolf my initial reaction is somewhat the same that we are happy, i'm happy for the family of freddie gray first and foremost and happy for the city of baltimore. but i do want our youth and everyone to realize it's a small step in a long process for justice. for freddie gray. but also it's a very small step in the battle of oppression against african-americans in america. so we made some headway with one good case and the state's
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attorney has stepped up. we've got a lot of work to do. >> there will only be justice, you're saying if in fact there's a conviction of these police officers there's no justice, a step towards justice, you're saying, but not justice yet? >> yes. we're all elated. and for me would have i'm so proud. i mean i was marching on north and pennsylvania with our youth. i'm so proud of the youth of the city of baltimore. had they not revolted on monday that youth did not step up. the young inherit the revolution. they stepped up and brought the cameras out and made the attention happen that made this a national issue. global issue. we want to use that attention to make everyone realize that the freddie grays in the world, the mike browns of the world, the eric garners of the world happen every day in urban america, in black america. i'm so proud of white and asian
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and other ethny nynicityies that came together to rally. but justice is yet to be served until the six police dogs are convicted and behind bars. >> i want to get your reaction we just got, jay, the dockets for four of the six police officers. who were charged today with various, with various counts caesar goodson, one of those chargesed, second-degree murder charged with second-degree depraved-heart murder which carry as 30-year sentence he was the driver of the van. on the docket he's listed as black, african-american another one of the police officers on the docket william porter he was actually charged with manslaughter assault, second-degree, facing maybe ten years in prison. also listed as his race black, african-american. >> two of the four dockets we've received so far. i want to get your reaction to that.
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>> yes, i'm not saying that all police brutality is white police brutality. again i'm not saying this is a white/black issue at all. we love our white brothers and sisters, this is a government black people issue, it's the system and police and attorneys and the president or anyone else that is within the government system is part of a government system that's been oppressive to black people for 450 years. that's a fact. so it's now it's time for our youth to inherit this revolution help blacks gain their freedom and independence and march forward towards real justice. the fact that the officers were black means nothing to me. part of the same system that targets african-americans every single day. >> the police representatives are calling for a special prosecutor. they say marilyn mosby, the state's attorney. >> of course they are. >> really has a conflict. she shouldn't be doing it. they're looking for a special prosecutor. they say none of the officers involved in their words are responsible for the death of
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freddie gray your reaction? >> in all of your years of journalism being this renowned correspondent, have you ever heard of a police brutality case or a police murder case where the police admitted their crimes? no. they always deny it. they never do anything wrong. even when caught on camera. so the fact that they want to draw these issues to the state's attorney general and conflict of interest is more distractions we still have it covered. the video that we talked about yesterday, wolf where there was an injury took place before the van. no one got charged with that injury. so there's still more to this case and for them to keep defending their officers knowing their dead wrong and freddie gray lost his life at 25. when i was 25 i was a high-school dropout, three-time felon. i turned my whole life around. i'm a productive member of society. they ruined freddie gray's whole life. he has no more potential, it's gone. even with the justice of
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criminal indictments, this young man lost the rest of his future. that has to be the focus. the police are here to protect and serve, who are not passion eight, compassionate or empathetic to his condition while he's in the van or wrongly arrested him before he got into the van. he's dead wrong. >> marilyn mosby, she says the injuries that caused his death occurred inside that van. although you're absolutely right, we saw him limp basically when they brought limb inside that van. we don't know what happened. but she specifically said that the injuries that eventually caused him to go into a coma and die a few days later occurred and she didn't explain all the rationale, occurred inside that van. i want to get your quick reaction before i let you go. to what the reverend jamal bryant he's a pastor from baltimore. i spoke with him yesterday in the "situation room." he said while it's an exciting day, it's actually a sad day when black people have to celebrate the system actually
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working. what's your reaction when you hear that? >> i echo those sentiments the fact that we have to be relieved when finally there's just even an indictment officers not even going to jail. but as african-americans, it's really all americans, right? it shouldn't just be a black issue. all of us should be -- we should be disgusted by the fact that officers who commit these kind of crimes even like the rodney kings and this, so many others we see on cam remarks they get away with it. and as americans, we all should participate in this freedom movement that we're starting it. with ymc. go to joint rally with us we're talking about freedom and justice for african-american people who are under oppression in america. look at the word oppression that's us. we need all the help all of our brothers and sisters throughout the world, all colors and races
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to understand that the american government has been pressing down has been cruel and unjust towards black people and it's time for a change. >> what do you expect to happen in the coming hours, you i know there's still a 10:00 p.m. eastern time curfew in baltimore. is that a good idea bad idea? time to get rid of the curfew? what do you think? >> it's time to get rid of the curfew. these people want to go out, have dinner this is a system controlling who? black people. just like the young kid who nached a police car, has a $500,000 bail as an 18-year-old. just like the grandma who was part of the riots who took two things out of the store. is the prosecutor actually for a $50,000 bail and the judge gave her $ 00,000 bail. grandma, like the father of one, who the prosecutor asked for a $300,000 bail for taking a pair of sneakers with a price tag. the system consistently
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oppresses and targets black people. why? i don't know. >> i want to show our viewers a picture of the six police officers being held right now. that's where they're inside the six police officers. they face various charges, assault, second-degree, what's called depraved heart murder 30 years, some are facing manslaughter involuntary, 10 years. these six police officers being held i assume they're going to be out on bail. what do you think of what's going on when you hear this jay, what goes through your mind. the first thing i want you and all your viewers to pay attention to is watch the bail limits for these six officers committed of assault charges, manslaughter wrongful arrest. let's see if their bail is any of those match or exceed a $500,000 bail for a a young kid for smashing a window? let's see that first and
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foremost. second of all they have the a right to the process to defend themselves and to go to court and get bail. i have no issue with that. the fact of the matter remaps is that six officers apply. which means they their cleggs know what happened. it's evident, now our white brothers and sisters are able to see that this happened. we've seen eric garner get choke to death on camera we see michael brown get shot in the head with no weapon on him. we see walter scott get shot in the backrunning away. aggressive policing what the hell else do we need to know that it's the system. it's wrong. it's not coincidences. it's the government system looking at and targeting african-americans. change the system free black people. we're under oppression here in america. great country for opportunity. but listen we didn't ask to be here we're the only nation here
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brought here forcefully. free us let's get our own independence. sovereignty. let's do something about this. it's too late too long. >> jason leader of the ymc coalition, thanks very much for joining us yesterday, you joined us today. we'll have you back next week. i'm sure the story is not going away. thank you. >> young minds, what? >> young minds can. the ymc coalition. i was baltimore's chief prosecutor coping with the enormous pressure? and the scrutiny? she's speaking to cnn's don lem bn her big moment in the spotlight. and can she win a conviction? was there a troush judgment as the police union claiming our legal and law enforcement experts are standing by.
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people are marching in baltimore right now. a lot of them are celebrating the charges filed against six police officers in connection with the death of freddie gray. let's check in with brian todd he's marching along with them. where are you guys right now, brian? >> wolf several thousand protesters have just turned west on north avenue. if anything holds from our experience this week we think
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that they're probably going to go to the intersection of north avenue and pennsylvania avenue. several blocks west of here. that's where most of the protests have gone on. these people have really wanted the legacy of baltimore to be about this active and energetic civil disobedience, they don't want the legacy to be the violence that happened on monday. they wanted a victory to celebrate today. they wanted justice, they feel like they've gotten it today, at least temporarily until the case goes to trial. we're heading back with them towards the epicenter of these protests probably towards pennsylvania and north avenues, wolf. >> brian we'll take on top of this. we'll check back with you later. let's get more from former fbi assistant director and cnn law enforcement analyst. tom fuentes. sonny hosten pamela brown, our senior local analyst, jeffrey toobin and phillip banks. let's your reaction to what's going on chief banks? >> it's very unfortunate, wolf
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that we had this particular situation. when i say unfortunate, not the fact that you had six police officers who were arrested. if in fact the police officers committed a crime, they should be arrested. but you have another unfortunate incident. >> what does it say, chief banks that three of the six police officers on the dockets listed themselves among their race as black african-american. >> you know that's not surprising to me, wolf, because all of the talks that i've had with people in the community when they have a complaint about how they were being treated, by the police day if there's a a perception of how they were being treated by the police. i never saw in my time with the baltimore police department that there was any kind of race. >> the fact that they it was asian, female it doesn't surprise me at all. people complain about the culture of a system. that's what you're seeing at least the peaceful protest out
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there today. >> five men among the police officers charged and one woman. sonny, you're a former prosecutor. this is by no means, a slam-dunk for the state's attorney is it? >> no. it is not. i don't like to say any case of is a slalom dunk actually. i think what we did see, which was so unusual, wolf was the state's attorney really outlining a case very very trance parent. that's something that is quite unusual. so we actually do have a sense of what the evidence is. we don't have a sense of all the evidence. she made it very clear she wasn't giving us all of the information. but i think it's unusual we got that much information. and i also think that what was very important in this case is she made it clear that she hired or weather employed independent investigators and that's why we saw these charges come forth so quickly. so obviously she has a lot of confidence in those investigators, a lot of
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confidence in this case because she did move rather quickly. >> as you know jeffrey tuben, you're a former prosecutor -- toobin. convicting police officers before a a jury in a case like this is very difficult. >> it is and what makes the case unusual, is it's not one police officer whose conduct is at issue. it's a whole group of them. one thing i think is going to be very important to keep an eye on if any of them decide to plead diltty to lesser charges and cooperate against the others there will be a lot of effort made in that direction. the prosecutors will need at least one witness to tell the story of what happened. because someone's got to say, what went on in that police van. now, sure you can try to prove it through forensic evidence but autopsy evidence but it would be much more powerful for a jury if at least one of those officers said look i was
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we're following the breaking news large crowds of people gathering in baltimore. many of them celebrating the announcement of charges against six police officers involved in the fatal arrest of freddie gray cnn's don lemon is in baltimore. had you a chance to sit down with the state's prosecuting attorney marilyn mosby after she announced the charges. update our viewers, what did she
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tell you? >> it was fortuitous we had the interview scheduled before she announced the press conference this morning. when she announced, we thought we would be the first interview after she had the press conference. i was very happy that i got to do that. she's a very competent woman. can you imagine being the youngest prosecutor in you know in the united states one of the youngest prosecutors in a major city in the united states and then having the whole world watching you, just four months after you got the job? now you have this. here's what she said about being confident about her investigation and being in the spotlight. >> this has been a really important, it's been a tough time for you. you are in the spotlight under the microscope. >> i don't think it's tough. the people of baltimore voted for me to do my job and to carry out justice and that's what i'm going to do as the state's attorney for baltimore city. >> let's talk about what's happening now, what you just did. you just completed. your investigation has left you
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with no doubt that these six officers are responsible for freddie gray's death? >> i can't really get into the specifics of the case but as a prosecutor you should not bring charges if you don't believe that you have probable cause. that these individuals are responsible for the charges. >> >> she says her job as a prosecutor is not to -- she doesn't want to have a bunch of convictions under her belt wolf. she said what she wants is to seek justice in all of the cases that she does. and that people should have confidence in her, that this case will be handled professionally and accurately and of course they will do it as quickly as possible. most of all, she wants to do it accurately and she wants to seek justice. >> we're watching these protesters demonstrators, marchers continue. don, there's no doubt that she has a personal stake in this. she comes from a long line of law enforcement. >> she does.
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she has uncles relatives, cousins, even her grandfather was one of the founding officers of a black police officers association in boston. she talked about loss r losing him recently . someone mistook her as a drug dealer. it was her best friend. they were son the same track, going to school together planning to go to college to get into law enforcement. after she lost her cousin, she said that really inspired her to become a prosecutor. >> don is going to be back later tonight with more of the breaking news from baltimore, special edition of his program, cnn tonight, 10:00 p.m. eastern. we'll be watching the full interview with the state's attorney marilyn mosby. that's coming up. plus a second interview that don did with the other passenger, the other prisoner that was taken in the van with freddie
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gray. an important note to our viewers as well. for more on the ways you can help the people in baltimore right now, go to more breaking news coming up as we follow these rallies.
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we ore back with the breaking news. rallies in baltimore after six police officers were charged in the death of freddie gray.
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we're also watching demonstrations in new york in seattle. there are shows of support for baltimore as well as mayday protests of racial and economic inequality. we want to follow up on a story that touched on financial disparity right here in the nation's capital. our chief correspondent danah bash is here with us. update the viewers on what's going on. >> as you mentioned, the events in baltimore have focused on disparity in the inner cities but also shining the light on the inequity. it's happening right under the lawmakers a here in washington. others r noticing it too, including one using his fame to help. ♪ nathan morris made millions in the band boyz to men. but he struggled growing up. >> i grew up in the bad
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neighborhoods. my mom did the best she could. >> that's when he saw our profile on cnn about charles gladden, a homeless man who sleeps on the streets at night but serves senators by day in the capitol, it bothered a nerve. >> it bothers me that someone in charles' situation would have to do this. >> he reacted saying if he could raise $10,000 yoon line he'd kick in another $10,000 as a start. then he came to d.c. from his hometown of philadelphia just to meet charles gladden. >> how are you sir in. >> thank you. appreciate you. >> i appreciate you, sir. it killed me to hear the story. i had to come up here. i had to see you, meet you and i had to pool all of my resources in to help you, man. >> he took out his phone to show people how much gladden had already donated. >> 21,000.
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>> morris says his first priority is getting gladden off the street perhaps to a halfway house. >> trying to take some of the burden off of him having to worry about where he's going to sleep at night. >> got a lot of workers in there that has a problem, people losing their homes and can't keep up their mortgage because they're not making enough money. >> once reluctant to talk about being homeless he's now eager to share his story. >> i sleep up at the subway up on 14th street about a couple of blocks from the white house. >> hoping it helps colleagues in less dire circumstances but still struggling. they want the private contractor that runs senate restaurants to raise their pay to a minimum of $15 an hour. >> there's no reason that you should feel disgraced in this company. the people in there making the laws that's a disgrace. >> like his new boyz to men friend charles is quite
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talented, and it turns out a sigger. ♪ i love you, i love you so madly ♪ >> nice. ♪ without you i can't go on ♪ >> we might have to get us another member. >> now, the contract with the private company that runs senate restaurants expires at the end of this year. sources tell me that senators are already in negotiations to reup with that very committee. the democrats are pushing the republican chairman to demand at least that this company gives a minimum of $15 an hour to its workers. right now they make little more than $10 at least as a bear minimum. >> did a good deed. thank for reporting that story. dana bash thank you. we're continuing to keep a close eye on the demonstrations from baltimore and other cities. we're getting fresh reaction to the criminal charges against six police officers in the death of freddie gray. you're looking at live pictures coming in from baltimore right
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now. they're moving so far so good peacefully they're moving along. we're going to continue to watch what's going on obviously throughout the night. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." cnn's live coverage continues right now with erin burnett out front. thanks to you, wolf. good evening to all. i'm erin burnett. out front tonight, the breaking news. at this hour six baltimore police officers in custody, all of them charged in the death of freddie gray. these are live pictures you're seeing on the other side of your screen growing protests on the streets of baltimore. and right now celebrations. they're celebrating an early victory in their dpe demand for justy. prosecutor marilyn mosby made the highly unexpected announcement today. no one anticipated that today. pane we now know the identities of the police officers lieutenant brian rice alicia white and officers william porter edwar