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ood work skills. this bike is get be an overhaul. >> i'm getting as and bs. they're like my guide to a better life. >> what a wonderful woman and all she's doing. thu thank you so much for being with me in new york. i'm poppy harlow. smerconish is next. i'm michael smerconish. welcome to the program. isis terrorists made stunning movements this week in iraq and syria. now the group reportedly controls more than half of syria. as a result, isis is not in the position to continue the murderous rampage but also destroy artifacts as it did in the past. now the question at home is whether the u.s. strategy is failing. some are calling for u.s. boots on the ground in the region. let's dig deeper with an expert. joining me now is richard clark, former white house counterterrorism adviser who spent ten consecutive years in
the white house advising three consecutive presidents. he authored his fourth book called "pinnacle event." he joins me now. is this what a caliphate looks like? >> yeah it is. i mean, they've done it. they call themselves an islamic state. they created an islamic state. it's a huge chunk of land. they have five or six major cities, probably 2 million people under control. they have people under their control, government, issuing leps plates. this is a caliphate. they're established. there's no near term likelihood of them being evicted from big cities like mosul still a city of over 1 million people. >> so why should we care? >> i'm not sure. i think that's the key issue u. know we went in there, into iraq and we lost thousands of americans killed, and tens of thousands wounded and still suffering. we spent $1 trillion. and the american people voted for a presidential kand gatdad who said he would get out. and he did. now people are saying well maybe that was a mistake and maybe we should go back in. i think we have to be very
careful. and if we do go back in i think we need to understand why and what the probability of success is and exactly what we're going to do and what the limits are. >> what does "go back in" mean to richard clark, something more than military advisers? >> i don't think a lot more than that. we have 3,000 troops on the ground. we have boots on the ground. they are advisers. they're special forces for the most part. they could easily become people at the front advising units in combat and calling in air strikes. the problem today is we don't have anybody at the front to call in air strikes. so our plans very often return to base with the bombs still on them. we're not running very many sorties a day, and we could do a lot more damage. we could also arm the people out there who want to fight, the people fighting in ramadi ran out of ammunition. they didn't have weapons. the kurds in the north who want to fight isis don't have weapons. and these are policy issues.
but the first policy issue is what you said. does it matter? if it matters, then ask for five six, seven point plan to increase what we do within certain parameters. and one of those for me is no u.s. military major combat units. don't put a brigade back or a division back. use special forces use predators, use air strikes and arm the people out there. ff's all so complicated. you can't buy into the my enemy is my friend. not in this case. i mean, it seems like we're on the same side as iran when we're in iraq. it seems that the more that we do against isis in syria the more that we're assisting bashar all assad. >> we have to figure out who the enemy is at any given time. if we think that isis as we call it here in the united states is a threat to the united states, to the homeland, then they're the enemy. and if working with iran in this
one instance is what we have to do, then let's do it. i mean hell in world war ii we were backing the communists the we were backing the soviet union because they were willing to fight the nazis. so if the iranian-backed militias in iraq are willing to fight isis let's give them air cover. >> here's another subject on which you're uniquely qualified to speak. you were on president obama's five member panel relative to the nsa. and as you and i are here at the end of the week you know what's going on in washington, this battle between the house and the senate relative to metadata. first of all, have any terror attacks been prevented because of that telephone information? >> no. there were 50-some incidents where they used the information. and i looked at each one of them. in no case would the result have been different if the program didn't exist. no, the program is not useful. >> does that mean we should get rid of it? >> yeah it does in the form
that it's now constructed, which is the government holding all these records about every time you make a phone call and the government being able to look at it without a search warrant. all of that has got to go away. that was overreach. the law they're operating under the patriot act section 215 doesn't say anything like that. >> are my civil liberties in jeopardy where the content is not known to he or she looking at the matrix? >> not yet and not at this time. but we know in the past that the fbi and other organizations and the united states government abused civil liberties and went after people unjustifiably. and that could happen again. it happened in my lifetime in your lifetime. who's to say it won't happen? we don't want government agencies overreaching like that. >> why do we write novels to make serious points? entertaining books. this is your fourth novel. did something come over you where richard clark said i can win more hearts and minds on serious issues by turning to
fiction? >> >> i've written three nonfiction book and they were successful i think. but fiction reaches a different audience audience. if i'm in the airport, i want a spy fiction book, a thriller for that flight to california. angd and i think a lot of people do. if i'm laying on the beach, i'm not reading a policy book. >> right. >> so it's a different audience. and the challenge i gave to myself was can i write a thriller, a page turner, that's fun but that educates people about what the world is really like. i read these thrillers that i pick up in the airport. i get halfway through and say, this is not realistic. >> do your books and novels need to get screened by the intelligence community? >> they do and they all have been. and i think to make them as realistic as possible without revealing information obviously that shouldn't be revealed. >> richard clark, thank you. best of luck with the new book. >> thank you. >> appreciate your expertise. coming up inside osama bin
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welcome back. osama bin laden's secrets revealed. this week intelligence officials release documents taken from the hideout found in the raid in 2011. there's a lot to be learned from what was on his bookshelf. nobody knows more about osama bin laden than my next guests. in 1997 peter bergen produced the first television interview with bin laden. it aired here on cnn. he's the author of the definitive book about the takedown of bin laden entitled "manhunt." and he toured the abaud abad campaign after bin laden was killed. thank you for being here. when you toured the scene, what was left behind? >> well, it was really like a crime scene michael. they had not let a lot of people on the site. i toured it two weeks before the whole compound was demolished. and what i saw and obviously i didn't know that this was going to be controversial many years later was evidence of a real
fire fight that took place at one of the smaller buildings on the compound and there was other smaller exchanges of fire that happened elsewhere. and there was broken glass in almost every room. you know when the s.e.a.l.s come into your compound, it's not a visit from the red cross. i mean this was a very violent event. >> when you got to the room where bin laden was killed, was there blood all over the place? >> i didn't see blood all over the place. i did see a very large black kind of spatter on the ceiling of bin laden's rather low bedroom ceiling. and the people who took me around said that's where the -- when bin laden was shot -- he's a tall guy, 6'4" -- blood spattered up on the ceiling and it congealed into this black kind of substance on the ceiling. >> i have recollection of your reportage after you toured abaud abad revealing there was some
type of a natural form of viagra that you saw left behind in his medicine cabinet. you correct me if i'm wrong. were there periodic afls reading materials also left behind? >> no. i saw some medicines left behind. but any of the s.e.a.l.s picked up all the computers and all the thumb drive that's they could pick up. and then after that the pakistani intelligence service also went in and picked up a number of documents. so there was nothing like that left when i toured. >> peter, this week we learned that approximately five months before bin laden was killed, he was apparently writing, making correspondence, and saying that he thought he'd exhausted the patience from a security standpoint of hosts in pakistan and thinking of leaving. do you think that five months prior to the takedown of bin laden we had a line on him that
had he left we nevertheless had been able to kill him? >> it's one of those currentfactual that's -- michael you know, throughout the ten months from august of 2010 to may 2011 there was never any certainty that bin laden was there. i know, over time some of the doubters may have changed their miebds, but it was also a circumstantial case. so if he had left five months before you know there was no 100% certain that hety that he was there. always a circumstantial case. people that knew him best were convinced he was there. but people who lived through the weapons of mass destruction fiasco in iraq were pretty exceptskeptical or had some reasons to doubt this circumstantial case. >> thank you peter. we appreciate you being here. >> thank you. >> one of the things revealed in the classified documents is his choice of reading material. he had a massive digital collection of english language books. my next guest is an author of
one of the books found in bin laden's stash. he wrote one of the books found in bin laden's compound. he's also the former chief of cia bin laden unit "the alex station." he led the hunt for bin laden from 1996 to 1999. michael thank you for being here. help people understand. you are a man who hunted bin laden, and yet he was recommending your materials, your books even before he was killed. why? >> because i had listened i think, michael, to what he had said, and then in my books i had correlated what al qaeda did, and the correlation between words and deeds was extraordinarily high. i think in some ways he may have been relieved that someone in the west was listening to what he said and trying to understand it. and, as it turns out, the book based on his words could be read
today with profit by people who are treated by their leaders to lies about the motivation of our enemy. the one thing that's very unusual here, peter, in these documents that they keep releasing now -- this is the second or third tranche -- is that it undercuts both administrations bush and obama, about the degree to which bin laden was in charge of his organization, the fact that it was growing rather than shrinking. it's really an extraordinary thick thing. but the lie is very durable. >> michael, let's go there. initially in aftermath of september 11, we were told it was because of our lap dances, our gap jeans and starbucks coffee. they quote, hated us for our freedoms. what is it that is reveals in this treasure trove that comport with what you were saying about bin laden all along? >> in the documents they've released there's nothing about a
motivation of attacking america because we were depraved or debotched because of women in the workplace or pornography or whatever. liberty, elections. they frankly michael didn't give a damn about what we did in north america. the motivation for bin laden and people who followed him and for those who are attacking us now is the u.s. government's relentless intervention in the muslim world, its support for israel and for arab tyrants, and that's the bottom line. >> do you think that the reason that he had your book on his shelf and the reason that he had said in a statement before he was killed -- by the way, let's make something clear. if michael sawyer had the chance, you'd have killed him with your own bare lands when he was alive, right? >> we tried very hard. i had some wonderful officers who gave mr. clinton enormous chances to kill him. and mr. clint nt was reluctant. >> i don't want cnn viewers to be mistaken in the way in which you held contempt and still do for bin laden. >> i think we treated him with
kid gloves sir, and we throughout had been his main ally throughout this war. >> what i'm taking away from you is that you believe that bin laden -- and you studied him, it was your job to study him -- you believed him to be trance parent. he said what he meant and he did what he said he was going to do and frankly that's all you needed to understand about the guy and somewhere along the way our political leadership maligned what he was all about. is that fair? >> yes, sir. we demonized him, which is fine. it's easier to kill if you demonize him. i bet there's no one in the senior levels of the bush government or the obama government that has read his words. if they did, then they can't read very well. >> i know you read his words. let me ask you, now taking a look at what's going on in iraq and syria today, is this what he wanted? did he want to establish a caliphate? or did he only want the united states off what he regarded as
the arabian peninsula? >> he absolutely wanted a caliphate. he did not believe the time was right. what's come out of these documents is that he had a very structured plan. first drive the americans out of the middle east. then destroy israel and the arab tyrannies. then settle score wtz shia. his biggest worry was that the shia confrontation would come too soon. and one of the engines for doing that would be to set up a caliphate too soon. so what we're seeing right now is his worst nightmare, sunnis versus shias, and if we were smart, since we can't beat them with our military we should let them kill each other. >> was there anything that surprised you about his ecclectic reading lists? if i had said to michael shoir, when you were hunting him, would you have come up with this list? >> i would have come up with books about the united states. i don't know if i would come up with this list. i probably would not have. he focused on us.
he knew us far better than we knew him because we didn't take him seriously. it's like not taking hitler seriously. >> there was no pornography revealed by the s.e.a.l. raid. at the time we heard he had a porno stash. do we know about that? >> there's a tremendous amount of pornography amongst the islamic groups. some of them used it for, you know stimulation. but they're not dumb people. they know how to hide information in movies, in pictures, on maps in order to transfer it without being discovered. pornography is a very useful way. we took many many piles of pornography from people that we captured, and some of it was just pornography, some of it had material hidden inside of it. there were cia officers that had to sign releases to say that they were aware of the nature of the material they were going to
look at and wouldn't be offended by it. >> crazy stuff. michael thank you for your expertise. >> michael, always a pleasure. thank you kindly, sir. the state department releases the first batch of hillary clinton's i mails. what they tell us about the deadly attack in benghazi. moved some new cars. hauled a bunch of steel. kept the supermarket shelves stocked. made sure everyone got their latest gadgets. what's up for the next shift? ah, nothing much. just keeping the lights on. (laugh) nice. doing the big things that move an economy. see you tomorrow, mac. see you tomorrow, sam. just another day at norfolk southern. why do we do it? why do we spend every waking moment, thinking about people? why are we so committed to keeping you connected? why combine performance with a conscience? why innovate for a future without accidents? why do any of it? why do all of it? because if it matters to you it's everything to us.
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welcome back. turning now to politics where hillary clinton is facing new questions about those 55,000 pages of e-mails she gave to the state department from her home server. the state department released the first batch of those e-mails yesterday, some 850 pages. so far, no smoking gun, but a lot of interesting nuggets including what she knew about the deadly benghazi attack in 2012 and when she knew about it. here to break it down is "new york times" presidential correspondent and cnn political analyst maggie haberman.
maggie maggie, what did we learn in that document drop from the state department? >> we learned a whole lot not new. we learned a little bit about the time line of events after the benghazi attacks. there were e-mails including her talking about the movie trailer that led to some of the protests. there was one e-mail forward about how benghazi was obama's 3:00 a.m. wake-up call. this was a reference to the infamous 3:00 a.m. emphasis ad mrs. clinton aired. in terms of new information, anything that changed the dynamic about our understanding of what happened after benghazi or about really how she ran the state department, there's not a whole lot. what this will do is provide new fodder for when she testifies before this house committee. >> what do you think concerns the clinton campaign more, the release of benghazi e-mails and other e-mails that will be forthcoming in this drip, drip drip toward 2016 or revelations about the foundation,
revelations about foreign governments or individuals that hired bill to speak with contributions being made to the foundation? between the two, which is more troublesome in the eyes of the campaign? >> i think the latter by a very long shot. if you've seen the polling, neither one is really sinking in. but the e-mails in particular have been very focused on and gone over and they have not sunk in on polling. if anything, you've goott voters trying to absorb two different strains of information, one that she deleted the e-mail server which some are worried about. these are going to be released before the campaign next year means that on the one hand she deleted the server yet here's all the information and the e-mails. i think voters will have the trouble sympathizing these things. they're sort of at odds but easy to explain. the foundation piece is more complicated. it goes to the heart of overlap between their personal lives, between how their lives are subsidized, between their allies, politically and in terms
of their foundation which is a charity. but there is a nexus between these issues and i think the bigger concern for a lot of people around her inside the campaign and her allies outside of it is not so much that there will be some bombshell or a smoking gun but that she did very little vetting, her aides did very little vetting, in advance of this campaign. so a lot of this is being done in realtime and they don't really know what's exactly to come. >> i think to your point, if you and i were strategists trying to convert either of these narratives into a 30 second negative or a 60 second negative we'd have a hell of a time doing it because of the complexity. for that reason if there's something to either of them -- and i'm not saying there is -- it would not resonate. >> republicans are trying to build a character case against her. that's what the e-mails and foundation are about. they're not finding a smoking gun per se. as a strategist once said to me they think they are finding a lot of lead that they can put together and form into a narrative. character questions have dodged
the clintons an dogged the clintons since their white house days. mrs. clinton campaigned for senate in 2000 the question against her was all about character. that's what the carpet bagger issue was about. you saw this come up again in 2007 in the form of iraq war vote among other things. she has been in the public eye for so long it's not clear that it will take hold. the bigger question i think for her is how this takes hold with younger voter whoz are less familiar with the clinton years. >> switching now to the rkts side republican side of the aisle. one interesting story from this past week is the party along with debate sponsors including this network are struggling to come to terms with how to fit all the candidates on the same stage. who benefits? who loses? >> people who are polling well certainly for one of the debates do well. people who are not polling as well lose. for one of the debates i believe it's segmented into different categories. anytime that you have splits in debates it's really not going to benefit anybody, especially the
lower polling candidates who use these debates for breakout moments. if you have 18 candidates and we're looking at possibly that many and maybe more on stage at one time, you're geoing to have maybe three minutes of airtime. no one is going to break out. you saw newt gringrich. you saw michele bachmann have a breakout performance in june 2011. mitt romney used the debates to really eviscerate rick perry. so these debates can really matter, but when they are parsed this way and broken down this way, it's not really sure how it's going to go. >> rick santorum george pataki martin o'malley all expected to get in this coming week. >> it's going to be an interesting week. i think the biggest question is going to be martin o'malley who who has so far trying to frame himself as the anti-hillary clinton without talking about her too much. he's trying to draw a sharp contrast on issues. there's no question there's some
energy on the left for an opponent. but it's not clear more than just wanting to see her sharpened in a primary. a lot of polling shows she's in good shape. this is not looking like a repeat of 2008. we'll see. >> one of the takeaways has to be you win even when you lose so longs as you put on a respectable race. otherwise, you wouldn't have so many admittedly second tier candidates willing to jump. >> on the democratic side you don't really have candidates willing to jump in. you're looking at a pool of about four. huge contrast to the republican side 18 and then some. we saw in 2012 republicans used debates, remember there was no primary in 2012 obama was the incumbent. you saw people using the combination of book tour and campaign. >> yes. >> you saw some people seeming they were auditioning for television shows. so you do have that dynamic at mr. play here. it's less clear what martin o'malley is trying to get out of this. >> maggie haberman thank you as
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tuesday's meepgt. i want to get his perspective on the matter. joining me is rich elle englander and council member price who co-wrote the proposal. councilman price, do you worry that los angeles just created a wage island from which businesses will now flee? >> no, not at all. in fact income disparities and poverty is a big issue in california, cost of living is up housing prices are up. yet the median wages are down and have remained stagnant. we think it's the right thing to do increasing the wage to $15 an hour and be mindful we're talking only about $33,000 a year. it still is very difficult for a family of more than two or three to exist. the people i represent are working three and four jobs just to make ends meet. >> councilman englander, why did you vote against it?
>> you know i was raised by a single mom who worked three jobs. i understand full well how difficult it is to make ends meet. but you ask the question in fact your opening segment said california experimented with opening the marijuana laws. in los angeles, we experimented with that as well and we turned around and had 1,000 of them we had to quickly try to figure out what's a reasonable number in undoing that. we'll never pull back this wage again. there are a number of issues and one of the wufrns you brought up is are they going to flee? we have 30 cities that surround laings city and a lot of these studies were done on the county. my concern is that we're similar mrif putting this on the backs of local businesses. these are thin small margin businesses, small mom and pop type shops that barely make ends meet on their own. so we've got to balance the equation with the gizbusinesses as well not just move the pie around. we need to put our own skin in the game. create our own enterprise zones fund technical and job training programs to give more skilled
workers an opportunity to advance. then we've got to look at the ripple effect on this as well. we're looking at a 100% increase to the businesses. no cost to the city but cost to the businesses. and that ripple effect for the people who are making just above that they'll have to give them raises as well that's about 150% increase. so we've got to help businesses stay open attract businesses retain those businesses. so they can provide the jobs here in los angeles. >> councilman price, some of those who are supportive of raising the mandatory minimum wage say this doesn't go far enough because we're talking the next five years will see the growth to the $15 an hour. when you consider for inflation, who knows what the value of $15 will be in the year 2020? >> well na's true. it won't be $15. it will be even less. but let me say businesses have certainly benefitted from very aggressive pro-business atmosphere and attitude that our council has had. we're provideing incentives to
hotels. downtown is exploding like it never has before with the new businesses, shops and stores. but we can't neglect the workers at the bottom of the pile. raising the wage is the right thing to do. it's the right thing to do in california. we're discussing it in los angeles, of course. l.a. county is looking at it. so the notion that this is just going to be ice lated that it will be an island, i think is not accurate at all. indeed, this is a national trend and california is at the forefront. and i'm proud to be a part of it. >> that's why i wanted to talk to the two of you. as i said at the outset often that which begins in california people snicker initially and then it takes place across the country. councilman englander, i hear liberty tearians and conservatives say we ought to let the market dictate. but the market doesn't seem to be doing enough for folks. i read a statistic that 46% of the work force is now below $15 an hour in los angeles. so can we trust the market to square this up?
>> michael, i think there's a happy medium. we've got to balance that. we've got to partner with businesses not let the market or us dictate. it can't be the policy makers saying we're going to create an unfunded mandate on businesses. that's unrealistic based on their profit margins. we've lost major industries in los angeles from aerospace, the return runaway production issue we're finally getting back now, financial, biotechnology, light and industrial manufacturing and the apparel businesses have said they're going to flee and go to surroundingsurround ing communities because of this cost. we should give them a tax break, give them an opportunity, give them a seat at the table to ensure that we protect entry level jobs and the opportunity to train those workers as well so they can move up the ladder and make even more money and be successful for all of us here in los angeles. >> councilman price, you can have the final word. let me just say that i like what's about to take place in california for this reason. it's a lab experiment. it's going to take us out of the classroom and finally, on a
large scale, we're really going to see what happens when there's an increase in the mandatory minimum wage. councilman price, go ahead and take the final word. >> well you know it is an experiment, but it's one that we've given a great deal of thought to. we've had a number of hearings. we've had three reports. we've heard from hinz and hundreds of citizens including businesspeople and others who expressed their concerns. i think we've adopted an approach equal to that. coming up sexism on capitol hill. does it exist? one journalist did some digging and the results are pretty shocking. find out why some female staffers say they can't meet with their male bosses one-on-one.
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welcome back. capitol hill may look like a virtual boys' club with the majority of congress being male. and a new survey may give an insight as to why. the national journey conducted an anonymous survey of female staffers. the result, several female aides reported they were never allowed to be one on one with a congressman or senator for fear that others would get the wrong impression. the the issue isn't widespread. it certainly exists and leads me to wonder if workplace discrimination is here. joining me is laursarah simms. she conducted the survey. are they worried about the appearance or trying to protect themselves against claim of sexual harassment by having a potential witness in the room?
>> that's what's interesting about this. i thai think we saw both. we conducted survey and had three women report to us out of 500 that they'd experienced this in their offices. i followed up with as many offices as i could reach out to and spoke with women and men who had experienced this in congressional offices. the reasons are two part as you suggested. one is that they're concerned what other people think particularly out side of washington d.c. where this stuff is normal. and the second is, yeah, they're concerned about what might happen behind closed doors and what might be perceived later. >> the reason it's of significance, to state the obvious, is that it's more difficult therefore for a female to advance because if she can't get the ear of the member of congress, the house or the senate, and instill a trustful relationship, then she's going to be passed over for perhaps the administrative assistant position. >> oh, yeah. that was the biggest question i had going into this, how could you rise to level of chief of
staff if you're not allowed to be alone with your boss? that doesn't seem possible. a lot of women i talked to said they did leave the offices because they knew there was no way they were going to advance. they saw very junior staffers being advanced over them because they were male and they could attend these kinds of events and have these kinds of meetings that the women just couldn't. >> does it take place as well when the elected official is female and the staffer is a male? >> that's what's really interesting. i talk to susan collins, a congressional staffer in the '70s and '80s. she didn't experience this herself. she found it laughable this is happening. she has numerous male and female staffers. she spends one on one time with them, has them drive her around the district. she says if she couldn't have her male staffers drive her around or go to evening event was her, it would be difficult for her to do her job. it never occurred to her that anyone would i anything other than these are two people that work together. >> i discussed your piece on sirius xm and we did a call
segment. i was overwhelmed with callers across the country saying that this is not just the congress. military has shades of this as well. the private sector called to talk about universities, academia academia, where a professor doesn't want to be alone with a coed after hours. >> universities are definitely one example i've heard a lot about since publishing this story. certain doctors, o bb/gyns, if they're male will have a female nurse in the room when they have a female patient. i spoke to deborah katz, an employment lawyer in d.c. and she had never heard of a case like this. it seems like particularly regarding the response i've gotten to this story is this isn't something entirely widespread but it is happening. at the same time, it's something people don't talk about. i'm happy to have had the conversation and talked to people that have experienced this. >> i think we can add to the list of military, university members of congress ob/gyns,
evangelical leaders because i've since come to learn there's the billy graham rule on this very rule. he wouldn't travel alone in the company of only a female. >> i've heard about that as well. that was definitely brought to my attention after this story came out. >> it got a huge reaction is what you're telling us? >> it absolutely did. this is has been probably the biggest story i've ever written. keep sending emails, i'd like to hear more. >> sarah mimz thank you for being here. we appreciate it. coming up, apple's ceo tim cook did it so did michelle obama. so did george bush. they all gave memorable and inspiring commencement graduation addresses, i wasn't asked to give one. but i'll deliver mine here, next. it got harder to control my blood sugar. today, i'm asking about levemir®. vo: levemir® is an injectable insulin that can give you blood sugar control for up to 24 hours. and levemir® helps lower your a1c. levemir® lasts 42 days without refrigeration. that's 50% longer than lantus®
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walk about in peru. and use the truth as a pillow. well nobody asked me to deliver a commencement address. but here goes. register, change, sign, mix, and run. register. according to the united states election project, the turn-out among eligible voters in the last national election, 2014, was a dismal 36.3%, the lowest in 72 years. please register. and vote every year. and if you're not pleased with your majority party choices, well consider joining the 43% who told gallup this past january that they are independents, not republicans or democrats. change. you know, the only television choice your parents had was between vhf and uhf. don't ask. today you have 500 channels to choose from, not to mention internet, satellite radio, twitter, facebook and more. you're in total control of where you get your news and
entertainment. exercise some choice. too many rely exclusively on outlets defined by their ideology and that's not healthy it stifles legitimate debate. sample alternative points of view and every once in a while change that channel. sign. you know, anonymity breeds contempt. people say things to and about others via blog postings that they would never say if their identity were known. my advice is that you become knowledgeable and active in the affairs of your community, your state and your nation. there's no substitute for reading the news. and then, having become informed, go ahead and express yourself. be passionate. but sign your name. mix. bill bishop is credited with coining the phenomenon known as the big sort. it's a pattern of social disengagement in the 1960s. we stopped joining the elks and bowling leagues and supporting our local newspapers and when we reengaged in the computer era, it was among more narrowly drawn associations where our access to
people of differing backgrounds and viewpoints was greatly diminished. income inequality and class segregation of the type described by charles murray in "coming apart" has only made things worse. hey, that's no way to go through leading a full life. go out of your way and seek experiences with individuals who don't look like you and don't see the world the way that you do. good things will result for you and for society. and finally, run. never once have i regretted running unsuccessfully for the state legislature when i was just 24 years old. there's no such thing as losing if you seek elective office when you're young. no matter what you do in life, you won't succeed alone. and there's no better way to gain an appreciation of the differences among people than by knocking on a few thousand doors and having to introduce yourself. if running isn't your thing, find a different way to serve. but if you're willing to enter the arena, you just might win. and we'd all benefit from new blood in the system. good luck.
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