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the nevada work because it makes sense, and just in case. that's it for "inside politics." "state of the union" starts right now. this is cnn's breaking news. >> good morning from washington. i am jim scuitto. the breaking news we are following this morning, secretary of state john kerry cutting short a crucial diplomatic trip to europe after breaking his right femur in a biking accident in the french alps. this is right after cancer claimed the life of vice president joe biden's son, beau biden. the state department released a statement saying secretary kerry broke his foot in a biking accident this morning in france and given the injury cite is
near his hip replacement, and he will go back to the doctor that did the prior surgery, and the secretary is in stable condition and never lost consciousness and he is expected to make a full recovery. secretary kerry is in good spirits and is grateful to the tprepb skpfp swiss authorities, i am told, and doctors who assisted him immediately after the accident. the secretary regrets not being able to meet in spain. the state department says the secretary plans to participate in the counter isis coalition meeting remotely from his hospital bed broombly in boston. cnn's senior international correspondent, nic robertson, is on the phone outside of geneva
switcherland. what do we know about the circumstances of the bicycle accident. >> reporter: number one, it's a beautiful day here, and this was not inclement weather conditions, and what we know is secretary kerry was cycling and negotiating his way around a curb when the indications are it's not clear if he struck the curb or what he struck while negotiating around the curb but in the process falling on his right side and the brunt of his fall it does appear it was on his right side and obviously that took the brunt of the impact. >> certainly a serious physical injury. in terms of the affects on the iran nuclear talks, we are at a crucial stage and less than a 34u7b9 to go before the deadline and how much impact is this expected to have on the course of the negotiations? >> reporter: the negotiating
teams are involved involved specialists and experts on the details being talked about, and secretary kerry himself was obviously familiar with the details, and perhaps what he brings most of all is the dynamic lead to the team but he is the one that has the close and personal relationship with the-on-run foreign minister, and as you get down to the wire in the talks, that relationship is the one that is going to come into play and how far does he push him on one issue and how far does he be push him on another issue, and he has been in the room with him and can have the one-on-one -- >> we seem to have lost nic robertson there in geneva. nick nic, are you back? >> reporter: i am back. it's the relationship and the key to how to read the body
language and how to read his face when you know you are getting to the maximum on any particular issue, and that perhaps is going to be the hardest thing in losing secretary kerry at this stage and we don't know when he will be able to return to the table, and the deadline is at the end of the month, one month to go and with an injury of this nature recovery can take quite a period. >> there are remaining issues between the two sides on sanctions release and access to key cites in iran and nic robertson, thank you for joining us from geneva. i want to go to our medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta. he is 71 years old and the femur is a severe leg injury and the same side of hip surgery, and how serious is an injury for a man his age and how long is the recovery? >> this injury is a serious
injury for any age person, and the femur is the strongest bone of the body to break it you need a lot of force, and somebody that is older, you could be weaker and he had hip replacement surgery, and the fracture was near the thigh bone so closer to the surgery, and still a significant amount of force necessary to cause that fracture. we understand he was conscious the entire time and it could be very painful and could have a significant amount of bleeding as well and given that they are transporting him to the united states that is an indication that he is stable enough for that transfer to occur. and in terms of recovery it's a little tough to say, and complicated by the fact that we don't know what type of fracture this was and what the relationship is to his previous
hip replacement. i can tell you on average you are talking about half a year typically, you know four to six months and it's not that somebody may not be able to start walking on it weight bearing as we call it, and just the recovery is a long process and people may not recover 100% and he is an active guy, and it's tough to say. >> it was not life threatening and he was conscious all the time, and he was returning to the states for treatment, and this is the longest bone in the body. how much danger, and i don't want to treat you like the attending doctor since you were not present there, but how much danger does it put him in at the point of impact at the point of injury? >> at the point of impact it can be very dangerous, and one of the biggest problems and people don't realize sometimes with a femur fracture it's the
significant amount of bleeding that can occur and it occurs in the upper leg and the leg may start to get increasingly swollen but it may not be recognized right away you are having massive amounts of bleeding occurring in the upper leg, and you have to be very vigilant about this. he was surrounded by a team and my understanding a physician was able to examine him quickly, so that was probably you know they could reduce the risk of having an unrecognized bleeding problem, and also the fact that he stayed conscious, again, very important and that speaks to the fact that the bleeding probably was not as significant into the upper leg, and that while he may have been in a lot of pain and probably was in a lot of pain these hurt a lot, but it was not enough to render him unconscious. i was just inferring to the fact that they are flying him back to boston where he had his previous hip scourgeurgery and it's a long
flight and you want to make sure somebody is okay for the flight ahead of time, and you would presume if it was more urgent they probably would have done the operation there where he was, because it's commonly done and it's a big operation, but they would have done it there if it was necessary, and they felt they could at least wait until he got back home. >> dr. gupta, good to have your analysis on this subject, and we wish secretary kerry a swift recovery. and our other breaking stories, sadly the death of joe biden's eldest son, beau bidens passed away after a long battle with brain cancer and he was 46 years old. we want to go to sunle len miller. what has been the reaction in washington from the president and the hill and family as well. >> it has been an extremely
difficult time for the family, and the vice president we know was at his son's beau bidens bedside last night, and they kept the details of his sickness close to the chest, and only last night after his death did they reveal he had brain cancer and he has been battling this for 20 years, and he had a stroke, and then he had to have surgery to remain a brain legion. two weeks ago the vice president's office did announce he was admitted to walter reed medical office outside of washington, d.c. and president obama said he is grieving along with the biden family, and he said joe is one of the strongest men we have ever known. he is as strong as they come and nothing matters to him more than his family. it's one of those things we love about him, and it's a testament to joe and jill to who they are that beau lived a life full and
a life that mattered and a life that reflected their reference for family, and bideeau biden is the first child to pass away since 1963, and the white house has not said how much joe biden will take to mourn his loss. it's not the first tragedy to strike the vice president, and he lost his wife and daughter in a car accident many years ago when beau biden was 4. >> he was in that accident as a 3-year-old. i can't imagine losing a child. thanks very much for joining us. joining us now as well is jack march kel of delaware. biden, of course, was attorney general. governor thank you for joining us. we know you are close to the biden family. you have been in touch with them and how are they doing?
>> i have not spoken to them and everybody in delaware is close to the biden family and their impact here has been tremendous. beau was an extraordinary human being. he was a great attorney general and took his job very seriously, but he is also an incredibly good and real and genuine guy and the post popular politician in the state and he earned that and worked for it and it's an unbelievable loss. >> he was a veteran himself of iraq and it's a loss for the biden family and a loss for the democratic family, is it not for the state of delaware? >> it is. it goes well beyond politics. i have heard from plenty of republicans in the last 12 hours who are feeling the loss deeply. you know it's deeper than any partisanship. he was well respected in every part of the state, and i spent time with him in the campaign
and working with him, and he was a guy really respected and kind hearted and hard working and the whole package. >> this was a long battle first dealing with it in 2013 and then he had a recovery and then a recurrence this year. did you have any sense of just how grave the situation was in recent days and weeks before his loss last night? >> not really. you know i spoke to beau the last time in february and i invited him down to washington to meet some of the other governors because we all expected that beau was going to run for governor next year and had he wanted to run he would have won and served very capable capablebly. wow spoke back in february and it was not working with his schedule and i did not suspect this would happen. >> we pressure you joining us today and our thoughts with the family with the biden family
and also with the people of delaware and all who knew him. thank you for your time. >> thank you. coming up next a senate showdown that could mean the end of the patriot act. the vote, just hours away. if your purse is starting to look more like a tissue box... you may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec® for powerful allergy relief. and zyrtec® is different than claritin®. because it starts working faster on the first day you take it. zyrtec®. muddle no more™ .
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store metadata and then roving and the lone wolf provision that allows the surveillance of somebody who is not connected to a known terror group, but senator and republican presidential candidate, rand paul is against it. joining me now, mike lee, and angus king who has serious concerns with the proposed legislation. i want to begin, if i can, with senator lee. as we look at the legislation, and we are coming down to the wire here do you believe you have the votes to get this passed tonight so the powers we just described aren't suspended? >> i do believe we have the votes. at this point i think the question is not about whether we
will get it passed but when. it will happen either tonight or on wednesday or sometime in between then but really within the 72-hour window we are going to pass the usa freedom act which passed the house with the super majority of 238 votes. this is a good day for the american people whose rights will be protected and the fourth amendment and privacy interests will be defended at the same time their national security interests will be protected and preserved. >> 72 hours will provide a window where the powers are suspended, and the president was making a case on friday even a short window considering a threat from the group isis and etc. would provide an opportunity, a danger. are you saying even if you have the votes there will be a period where the powers are suspended? >> i hope not. i think that will be unfortunate and unnecessary, and that's why i would like to get it passed today. i will point out i brought this
up early last week, and we have known for four years this deadline was approaching and i think the american people are starting to demand more and starting to expect that congress actually moves ahead of the game and stops governing by cliff. the american people deserve better than this especially when it comes to a program that is an integral part of protecting our national security. >> how do we get to the cliff? it's not a budget showdown but a national security showdown. how did we get here? >> we knew it was coming for the last four years, and some of us had concerns when the program was reauthorized four years ago, and we voted against it and started to resize section 214 of the patriot act. i devoted an entire chapter of my new book "our lost constitution" to this program and its ramifications for the fourth amendment and the privacy
interests of the american people, and that's why we came up with the bill and we proposed this bill last year so it could be introduced and passed well in advance of the deadline. unfortunately, this sort of thing has become all too common and become a trend and bad habit adopted by both parties. bad habits and old habits sometimes diehard and this is an idea and a habit whose time has finally come. i think it's time for us to move forward and to stop governing by cliff. >> it's a habit now that has the country's ability to counterterrorism in its sights. rand paul is preparing for a fight and saying he will block this legislation and you backed him when he held the floor for ten hours and you stepped in for him while he was on the floor. are you prepared to do the same tonight in light of the concerns that he still holds? >> senator paul and i share similar concerns about the collection of bulk metadata.
we think it's wrong for the government to be collecting phone records on every single american's phone calls and we do differ as to the strategy of how to deal with it, and although he and i share a similar concern, i don't agree with his approach and i have taken a different approach here, and i think the usa freedom act solves the underlying problem. >> let me ask you this finally before i let you go. when this program, the bulk metadata program was revealed through edward snowden, and the talking point disappeared, and senator pat leahy and others established in fact it was one plot $8,500 going from one american to al shabaab and directly to information collected in the phone metadata program, and the data is still getting collected, and why is
that necessary? >> the phone companies will hold the records because they are the phone company and has a record of who calls who, and the nsa will be able to reach out to the phone companies to get the calling data that is relevant to the national security investigation. we don't think it's a good idea for the government to just collect all the data in bulk just because it's there. this data when aggregated and put into a database that covers a five-year period of time it reveals a lot about a person about how they spend their time and we don't think it's appropriate for the government to just collect this information simply because it exists. >> senator lee, i want you to stand by because i want to go to senator king now. senator king you are a member of the intelligence committee and expressed lingering concerns even with the proposal that will be voted on today. have your concerns been addressed addressed? i will ask you, is moving the
metadata out of the government's hands to the phone companies where the government would have to request access to it and that enough to help the concern you and others have had in the u.s.? >> the answer is yes and no. i think moving the data out of the government is a an important step, and i have been lobbying for two years just for that step and the problem i have currently drafted, it has no problem that the phone companies hold the data for a particular period of time. i think it's really important for people to understand we are not talking about the content of phone conversations here. nine out of ten people i talk to on the street say i don't want nsa listening to my phone calls, and that's not what we are talking about. it's the numbers called and not any content. for example, the tsarnaev brothers who bombed boston they
could see who they called around the country to determine if it was a couple guys in boston or a national plot. it's important for people to understand we are not talking about the content of phone calls. my concern, and i support the concept of moving the data out of the government. i think that's a good idea from a privacy point of view. my concern is if you move it out of the government and leave it with the phone companies and the phone companies say we will hold that data for a week or month or six months then the program loses its fun khau tphal tea altogether and you repealed it without saying so. there should be some reasonable requirement for holding the data if indeed you think the program has value, and i do. >> i hear you on the point it's not the content of phone conversations and i am aware of that and i think many viewers are aware of that and at the end of the day it's still about who americans are in touch with and many would consider it
private situation, and it's not you are listening but who they called. if they have a suspect in mind, can't they then track the phone conversations opposed to tracking everybody's? >> you are right, and that's why i and mike lee and others support getting the data out of the hands of the government. even though there was no evidence of it being abused and there were protections built in and many of us felt we ought to get it out of the hands of the government but there is a step that the government has to go through the court to get a warrant if we have a reasonable suspension of a terrorists connection and then they can search the data so they can't go in to check your records to see who you are calling in california. there are protections. what we are doing here jim, is
trying to balance the fundamental responsibility the constitution assigns to us of national security to provide for the common defense and domestic tranquility. those are the exact words of the constitution with the fourth amendment and privacy rights but the fourth amendment is not absolute it said people shall be free of unreasonable search and seizures and we are always trying to strike the balance of those. i am strongly in favor of protecting privacy rights, and we have to be aware we are under a threat, and it strikes me for senator paul to talk about unilaterally disarming a tool when i have never seen the threat higher. >> senator lee mentioned the possibility that he believes and you believe you have the votes to pass the reformed bill it could be a 72-hour window before it's passed and it could be
until wednesday before the unilateral disarming, as you described it would disappear for a span of two or three days and that's not a long time but doesn't take long to carry out a plot and does that concern you, would that be a threat to national security? >> it does concern me. i think as senator lee can confirm, this really is about timing. this will get done if the votes are there and it looks like the votes are there. the only question is when and i would hope that those who are making a big deal of standing in the way and objecting and blocking realize that all they are really doing is slowing something down for two or three days that there is a risk created, and you can argue whether it's large or small, and there is a risk created for those periods and we could get it over tonight if people will pass the bill and it could be on
the president's desk tomorrow morning with no lapse in the protections for the public. really it's a question of whether people are going to make a big production of objecting and it ends up being passed on tuesday or wednesday, and we are in the same place we were only we have lost two or three days. i don't want to exaggerate a risk but it created a risk that we won't have a tool in our national security tool kit. >> i heard the same thing from counterterrorism officials they have not seen the risk level at this state in sometime. >> thank you for joining us on this crucial issue. >> thank you. >> thank you. will the u.s. face blowback from the taliban prisoners it swapped for army sergeant bergdahl's freedom. general stanley mcchrystal offers his take when we come back. like a tissue box... you may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec® for powerful allergy
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welcome back. i am jim scuitto in washington. stanley mcchrystal is commander of coalition forces in afghanistan, and he was, and credited with transforming the elite fighting force they are today, and he is author of the book "team of teams:new rules of engagement for a complex world." had the pleasure of seeing you in afghanistan, and it's nice to see you out of uniform. >> great to be here. thanks. >> i want to begin with the case of bowe bergdahl and taliban 5. we are waiting for what the next step will be. i want to ask you about bow pwurgburg bowe bergdahl. >> we had reason to believe he
walked off his base and he could have been a confused young man, and that could be the ruling i am not sure. we made every effort we could to recover him as fast as we could. >> if it was discovered at the time and there are still questions today, but if he was a deserter would that change at all u.s. efforts to rescue him? >> it's hard to make that kind of judgment because it would have been impossible to know at the moment if he was a deserter. we were trying to prevent him from being taken to afghanistan, and he would then become a chip in the power gain there and we were concerned about both of those. >> do you have any concerns about the deal that was made a year ago to trade these five senior taliban leaders for his freedom? >> i think if you look going forward and getting back an american soldier was important,
until he is adjudicated it was hard to say what the cause was and it's important to look back and the five that are back presumably they will go back to the battlefield but they will not change the dynamics and they will not change the balance, they are five guys. >> that's an enormous concern. you say presumably they will go back to the fight, and that's an alarming presumption, and they are quite senior in the organization. would that not be a loss and put u.s. forces in danger there? >> i wouldn't make it too important. they were in captivity for a while and they are not going to go back to a key operational role. i say presume, because you have to say that in a case like this and we can't presume to have changed their thinking while they were in captivity anymore than an american held to change his thinking, and i have to presume the bonds with the old
organization would be strong and go from there. >> if they go back you think that deal was a good deal to gain his freedom? >> it's hard to get say that. the fight against isis is not going well. the map is amutable despite a massive u.s.-led air campaign and massive advantage among the iraqi and kurdish forces aligned against the forces of isis. you have been very public in saying we need u.s. boots on the ground to fight this fight and win. is that what is necessary to turn this around? >> well what i have actually said is we first need a very clear strategy to deal with isis, and to establish a framework for the region. if we don't have a direction of where we are going where the instate will be the just defeating isis will be a meaning meaningless act. we have to recognize what isis is and it's a phenomenon of the
21st century, and it's based on age-old ideas but they are operating in a way that is disoriented to the organizations in the region, and they combine suicide bombers with flexible tactics on the ground and this suburb information war campaign and it makes us all worry about what they are going to do. i think we have to show leadership in the region and american presence and leadership will be critical to build teams against isis. >> do you have to commit american forces on the ground to demonstrate? >> you have to demonstrate american revolve and leadership and it could be them on the ground with iraqi forces helping them leverage and in difficult times like the iraqi army is in they need that cloth. >> this is something that
general dempsey and others raised military advisers back on the base they are on the forward lines. >> war is about confidence. when the iraqis pulled out of ramadi there was a military calculous, but it was much more a loss of confidence. sometimes just the presence of american advisers with their connection to air power and whatnot can bolster the confidence of leaders and provide additional advice as well. >> and you here ash carter saying they didn't have the will to fight? >> confidence is everything at every level, and it starts with having confidence in your leaders and the national leaders and then yourselves and that's something we can help with. >> i want to ask you about afghanistan, and this was going to be the year to end the presence in afghanistan, and the president extended the smaller force there for a bit of a longer time and the bit on the
ground is those forces are doing more activity than the president described, and initially they said they will protect u.s. forces and there is evidence they are doing offensive operations going after taliban leaders. is this a stealth extinction? >> i think it's a balance. most of the fighting being done on the ground is done the by police and i think america brings capable abilities with afghan partners. afghans will do well if they believe they have the kind of strategic partnership president obama offered them in 2009 when he said we will be your strategic partner. you can't put a number on that. it's not a specific number of americans or planes or boots on the ground and it's the sense that we are an absolutely committed friend that will help
them protect their sovereignty. >> that's a long commitment. i remember you said to me when we were in kabul a good five years ago, you made the comparison to u.s. troops in korea and germany, and they have been there for decades, and that commitment is not unusual when you are facing an enemy, like in this case the taliban. are you saying you need an american force in afghanistan for years to come? >> i think japan and germany turned out well and they could have turned out very differently. if you look in the long sweep, wars don't have a set beginning and set end. as you know all the things you do that lead up to a war, and after a war, it prevents the next one. if we look at the policy as a long continuum, and it's cheaper than doing moves of big forces. >> as you write the book about
leadership you have got a very strong reputation of course from your commands in afghanistan. there are some that talk about you as a future political candidate. do you plan or have any ideas or thoughts to run for office? >> no i would like to see more young veterans going in but i have zero intent. >> a lot of politicians said that and changed their minds? >> no let me be -- i am not going to run for any office president. >> thank you for being with us today. >> thank you. former governor of new york george pataki the latest to throw his hat in the presidential ring for 2016. how is he going to stand out from the growing pack. i will ask him right after this break. plaque psoriasis most of my life. but that hasn't stopped me from modeling. my doctor told me about stelara® it helps keep my skin clearer. with only 4 doses a year after 2 starter doses... ...stelara® helps me be in season.
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i announce i am a candidate for the republican nomination for president of the united states. >> this week george pataki became the eighth official gop contender for 2016 and his announcement came in new hampshire, a friendly state for moderate republicans. thank you for joining us on sunday. >> good being on with you, jim. >> i want to start with the key news today because key provisions for the patriot act will expire, and two said it's possible although they have the votes these powers will be suspended for a period of two or three days. you were governor in new york during the 9/11 attacks.
>> to me it's totally wrong that a filibuster would be used to create this void in our security at a time when we are at risk and i honestly think, jim, we are at as great a risk today as we have been at anytime since september 11th of another terrorists attack. i hope they can get it done today. by the way, i think they should reauthorize the patriot act, and i think senator king's comments about how the alternative the house passed doesn't require the private sector to hold those phone records, and without them we are at greater risk than we are today. >> senator rand paul one of your opponents, you mentioned a filibuster there putting the country at risk and he is the man behind it leading the way on this and do you believe he is fit to be commander in chief in light of the position? >> i think he is wrong on this position where he is going to by himself block authorize sraoeugs of the new creation of authority to protect us and provide the intelligence we need to protect us in these dangerous times.
i think he is wrong. i don't understand why if it's going to happen on wednesday or thursday he doesn't allow it to happen today. it is simply putting americans at risk for a political reason. i think it's wrong and i think it's unfortunate. >> i want to move to the fight against isis. the fight against isis is not going well. the map virtually unchanged in a number of months and you had the key loss of ramadi and other areas in the last couple weeks. you have said repeatedly that american forces need to be put on the ground there to fight there so you don't have to fight a group like this at home. i wonder if you can describe to our viewers, how far would you go? are you talking about a large ground force or military advisers? what exactly do you think is necessary to turn the tide? >> what i said is if necessary we should not rule out american voices to take out the recruiting centers and training centers and planning hubs where they are actively working to attack us here. i would do a number of things first.
first, i would provide actual arms and assistance and training to groups like the kurdish ishish peshmerga. all of our aid goes through baghdad and doesn't get to those fighting isis on the ground. i would also put american troops as advisers and observers on the front line working with the kurds and baghdadis and sunnis to help them overcome isis's ability and greatly expand the air attacks on the safehavens and if all else fails, to prevent them from having the centers where they are organizing to attack us in america, and it wouldn't be a 10-year war to nation willed it would be a quick aop strike and destroy
their operations and move out and continue to support the other forces the local forces fighting isis on the ground. >> let me ask you this the u.s. has been training and advising and assisting and arming the iraqi army for more than ten years, $25 billion, and that army has dissolved in effect with isis' advance on mosul and ramadi, and what gives you confidence if you do more of that it will turn the tide without a significant u.s. presence on the ground? >> i think what we have to do is not just help the iraqi army but as i was saying put advisers and support with the turks, and sunnis, and have advisers with them so instead of having iranians guiding them they will have americans guiding them and have the confidence that we are at their side. let me make one point. i have two sons. my older son after college was a marine lieutenant in iraq for a
year, and my younger son after college became a lieutenant in the tenth mountain division and just got back from afghanistan in september. i know what it's like to lie awake as a parent worrying about your child. i don't want us to put one young person in harm's way unless it's absolutely necessary, but i saw september 11th and i know isis wants to do it again, anywhere here in america. we cannot let that happen. >> i want to turn back to the political race here, and i want to play you something that new democratic presidential candidate, martin o'malley said this week. have a quick listen. >> the presidency is not a crown to be passed back and forth by you between two royal families. >> he is of course referring to the bushes and the clintons. i wonder if you agree with his assessment? >> sure obviously you don't pass it on -- you have to go earn it. i am a fan of jeb bush, and i know if he decides to run he is not going to run because it's a
legacy thing but because he has a record of his own and is fighting to get there, but i have to tell you, my background is so different growing in a small town in new york and my dad couldn't speak english, and i think that's the american way. one of the things that excites me about the race is that pretty much everything that i have done, i started at the bottom and have been able to finish at the top. i know i am starting close if not at the bottom now, but you talk about a record that i am proud of and at at the end, that's what matters, where you are at the end. >> the first republican debate is going to be august 6th and fox news debate sponsor said the top ten candidates will be able to participate. do you think that's a fair >> the rules are what the rules are. whether it's fair or not you're going to abide by the rules. i'm not going to let it bother
me one way or the other. it's august 2015 whether i'm in the debate, not in the debate, i'm going to continue to make the case to the american people that my whole life has prepared me for this moment. i know i can lead this country. i know i have the vision. i know i have the background and experience and if i'm in the debate great. if i'm not in the debate great. it's not where you start, it's where you finish. >> governor we wish you the best. thanks very much for joining us on this sunday. >> thank you, jim. good being on with you. >> when we return china's apparent land grab in international waters and my exclusive flight aboard a u.s. spy plane in the south china sea.
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>> reporter: my cnn team and i are the first to be allowed in the aircraft during an operational mission. it's an advanced surveillance aircraft but it's also a submarine killer. buoys are dropped in the water to track a submarine and the plane can be equipped with torpedos to destroy those submarines. up in this section are the eyes and ears. it has video cameras, fin from a red cameras to watch as china makes this enormous land grab in the south china sea creating really manufacturing real estate on the high seas creating islands like this one with an airstrip and a harbor. the fear of the pentagon is that china's militarizing these islands. >> we're out here patrolling just to monitor what's going on on these islands so mostly we come out here and look for what kind of construction activity is going on. >> the flight crew has just had
its third radio contact with the chinese military, and it was very forceful. >> aircraft this is chinese -- you are approaching our military alert zone. leave immediately in order to avoid misjudgment. >> it's very clear the chinese military on these islands considers this their air space and considers this u.s. aircraft though it's an international air space right now, as invadeing that air space. >> i don't ever get nervous up here. this is what i love to do. it's what we've trained to do so when you feel prepared i think the nerves go away. >> we're just coming up now on mischief reef, another island the u.s. fears china is militarizing. the concern is that that is a potential threat not just to commercial shipping in the area but also u.s. naval operations and these flights are intended in part to send a message that those are the things the u.s.
will not tal rate. >> if china wants to intercept us in international airport, they can do that but they own the risk and the safety associated with that intercept. >> today it's a stand off at a distance from a few thousand feet from several miles, but the concern is over time those islands aren't going anywhere. how would this be resolved over time? will it still be at a distance? that's a real question going forward, and neither side has figured out how to resolve that without a conflict. >> on his trip to asia defense secretary carter announced a new plan half a billion dollars towards the building of partner military capacity among allies in the pacific. we'll be right back after this break.
thank you for watching, "state of the union." we are keeping vice president biden in our thoughts today as he dealing with the loss of his son, beau. as a father my heart goes out to him and his entire family. i'm jim sciutto in washington. fareed zakaria, "gps" is next. this is "gps," the global public square. welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. i'm fareed zakaria. we'll begin today's show with iraq's battlefield failures and isis' military successes. how is a band of terrorists able