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to say farewell and to make a point. >> for too long we've been blind to the way past injustices continue to shape the present. perhaps we see that now. >> "inside politics," the biggest stories, sourced by the best reporters, now. welcome to "inside politics" i'm john king. thanks for sharing your sunday morning. with us to share the reporting and insights, cnn's nia-malika henderson. ron fournier, jonathan martin and molly ball. america is a very different place this sunday compared to last week. same-sex marriage is now a national right. the supreme court upheld the key piece of the president's health care now. and the confederate flag is being pulled from public land and from store shelves. plus, it was a week in which the president used the "n" word in a conversation about race, and discussed himself as fearless at a time many others in this town suggest he's a lame duck. >> it's sort of like an athlete.
you might slow down a little bit. you might not jump as high as you used to. >> right. >> but, i know what i'm doing and i'm fearless. and when you get to that point -- >> freedom. >> then, you know. and, and also part of that fearlessness is because you've screwed up enough times. >> sure. >> that you know that -- >> it's all happened. >> it's all happened. i've been through this. >> right. >> i've screwed up. >> right. >> i've been in the barrel, tumbling down niagara falls. >> yeah. >> and, i emerged and i lived. and that's always a -- a -- that's such a liberating feeling. >> interesting to hear the president there. much more on the president's defining week in just a moment. first though the big court decisions and their meaning. and the pressure they put on republicans. ron fournier, obamacare now has cement hardening on it. same-sex marriage is now a national right. all 50 states have to allow it. the confederate flag, part of a playbook in which some republicans for years have run on the, they're raising your tax dollars to take your money and
give it to them, and we know who them are and what they've meant of that, that seems to be crumbling or in danger as well. just wow i guess about the week. >> yeah, thank god it's crumbling. i was brought back today watching a week in which the confederate flag came down and the gay rights flag came. i was brought back to a moment a year ago when i happened to be in little rock standing in front of the memorial to the little rock line with an african-american preacher and we're talking about how far this country has come and how far it still has to go. and that winder over our shoulder is where they had blocked the little rock nine of coming in. i said what do you think about what's coming down the block? i happened to be there the week because of arkansas was allowing gay marriage. all these folks just down the street getting married and this african-american preacher said that's terrible. i said what do you talk about? it's terrible, it's against god's law it's against the bible. i tried to explain to him you know don't you realize that you sound just like the segregationist governors. and he didn't get it. now he's a decent man.
a caring man. a religious man. but he just didn't get it. and finally he said you know, change comes so slow. but then it comes so fast. and i think there's a lot of people dealing with this this week. >> this change did come remarkably fast on the marriage issue. if you look back at the civil rights movement, the women's right movement took many, many years. took many setbacks. this one did happen if you remember 2004 george w. bush wins a relatively close presidential election in part because republicans selectively in battleground states put constitutional amendments on the ballot to drive up conservative turnout outlawing gay marriage. what now? will any of these republicans have the courage i guess to look past their base, which is angry, losing on obamacare? losing on marriage? seeing these other things happening, to where the country's going or are they beholden to that base, in the short term? and molly as i ask you the question the reactions, two different schools if you will in the republican camp reacting to the marriage decision. you had mike huckabee saying reject, resist, judicial tyranny. scott walker the governor of wisconsin said it's time to push
for a constitutional amendment. an end around the court and have a constitutional amendment. i'll call this the kasich bush lindsey graham chris christie camp say we don't like this but it is now the law of the land. let's listen to governor christie. >> i think this is something that should be decided by the people of each state, and not imposed upon them by a group of lawyers sitting in black robes at the u.s. supreme court. that being said, those five lawyers get to impose it. under our system. and so our job is going to be to support the law of the land, and that, under the supreme court's ruling, is now the law of the land. >> on a debate stage the mike huckabees, the scott walkers and rick sand for up will say hell no maybe ted cruz as well. how are the republicans going to handle this now? >> i think it's something that most republicans are going to want to stay away from. even those who are saying that they disagree with the court. i mean i think we saw in 2012 that it was something that the field mostly wanted to stay away from. that mitt romney certainly
wanted to stay away from. i think you do have to separate out obamacare from these -- these race and gay rights issues. on those issues, there is a much more straightforward not consensus, but idea that the party needs to rebrand and look modern and look like it's sort of forward looking. the democrats are very cleverry putting obamacare in that same basket to say if you refuse to accept obamacare you're stuck in the past as badly as if you still wanted that confederate flag. that's a different issue. that's a policy issue. and there are different republican schools of thought about whether they need, you know, someone who can really continue to harness opposition to obamacare the way mitt romney maybe wasn't age to because he was compromised on that issue. or whether that is something that they also need to move on from as well. >> they would rather have a debate over the role of government and health care obamacare when millions of people haven't just been tossed out of their health care coverage that they would having that conversation with their
sort of grappling with oh, my gosh how to we get a stopgap to get these folks their coverage. i think this week represented a tolerant moment. i don't know if it's a liberal moment. i think there's a difference between the two of those things. look what else happened this past week. the trade bill passed. if we were in a truly liberal moment right now, congress would have stopped that bill from being passed i think. the country is coming more culturally tolerant. we see that with gay rights, we see it on the flag. but i think you have to make a distinction between that and some kind of a liberal epoch because on economic issues, the country is still fairly divided. and the trade issue sort of captures that. >> you make a point, made a point about the obamacare versus say the marriage ruling in the sense that there are some nuance and some tactical strategic differences among the republicans on the marriage question. on the obamacare ruling it was still repeal, and replace. repeal and replace. repeal and replace. but isn't there a risk in that, too? because repeal and replace means even if you trust your
republican presidential candidate repeal and hand it back to the congress. and nobody trusts the congress to do much right now if you have 6.4 million people who are on those subsidies. if you have people who had a pre-existing condition who now have coverage. young people still on their parents' plan. can the republicans stick with repeal and replace? or do they have to just move to amend? >> i think so far, i mean it looks like they're going to stick to repeal and replace. i think one of the problems is, it does sound like they're fighting the old fight, the fight from 2012, the fight from 2014, and you never necessarily want to be a party of it seems to be engaged in the past. i think that's an argument of obama was trying to make in his speech there. >> has the ground kind of moved? when you look at these issues, if you're republicans there's been a way of doing things and maybe it hasn't worked at the presidential level the last two times but this is how we do things. these are our positions. the stones that get you across the river, are they moving now? >> well, definitely. i think jonathan hit a very good point that we have to be careful not to read too much into this ideological spectrum that people are changing cultural we are
becoming more tolerant especially rising generations. that's what the republican party really has to work about. huckabee just didn't call this judicial tyranny. he said he's not going to heed this ruling. this is a guy i covered in ash saw. there's another former governor i ran into in arkansas a few times, orval faubus. mike huckabee founds like orval faubus. >> mike huckabee is on the wrong side of history. >> what does that mean for what he's actually able to do? i mean his statement was very bombastic more so than most but in terms of what he's able to do in terms of what does it mean -- >> he's appealing to the worst instincts of some people. i don't want to condemn the whole right of the republican party there are some very good voters out there who really think this is the wrong thing to do. but you don't make this us versus them. >> there is one of these fascinating subprimaries taking place right now within the primary itself and it consists of those candidates who are vying for the support of cultural conservatives. and this ruling is an
opportunity for them to stand out. >> how do you do it? >> by recognizing or -- >> you've seen today how the assumption is by being really aggressively at the court. >> interesting test for the republican candidates. as we get closer the election is not till early next year. the debates are getting closer. going to be false naturing to see how this plays out later this summer early fall. the president's huge week. some big legacy items and a promise he says he isn't receiptly to just fade away. ls g electronic health records for more than 30 million patients? or that our software helps over 20 million smartphone users remotely configure e-mail every month? or how about processing nearly $5 billion in electronic toll payments a year? in fact, today's xerox is working in surprising ways to help companies simplify the way work gets done and life gets lived. with xerox, you're ready for real business. and libig day?lived. ah, the usual. moved some new cars.
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argument this was the most consequential week of the obama presidency. a big back from the ashes win on trade. another legacy item from the supreme court. you know, that big obamacare decision. >> after more than 50 votes in congress to repeal or weaken this law, after a presidential election based in part on preserving or repealing this law, after multiple challenges to this law before the supreme court, the affordable care act is here to stay. >> a day later the landmark protection for same-sex marriage. >> we can say, in no uncertain terms, that we've made our union a little more perfect. >> plus a moving eulogy and a call to arms in charleston. >> removing the flag from this state's capital would not be an act of political correctness. it would not be an insult to the valor of confederate soldiers.
it would simply be an acknowledgment that the cause for which they fought, the cause of slavery, was wrong. >> nia-malika henderson, he looked different, he sounded different, he promised if that podcast he is different. he said after some failures, he's got it. he knows how to do his job. he's fearless. is there something to watch in a lasting way from this president? or was this just a remarkable week and next week we'll be saying he can't pass new gun laws his party is mad at him in the trade fight and he still can't get things done? >> i think it depends on the fight. the trade deal obviously went his way. the gun fight again depends on republicans. whether or not he can convince those folks that the politics are different. it will be up to mitch mcconnell whether or not he wants to bring something up. and john boehner in the house. i do think that interview was fascinating. i mean here's a guy who entered the sort of national stage, saying that he was like lebron james and that he could play on
that level, and to see him and hear him in that interview, sounds so much like someone who has this energy now, who feels like the country is with him, who feels like the country is on his side, on some of these main issues. i think it also has implications for hillary clinton, right, as obama obviously had a big week. but so did hillary clinton in terms of these big fights that i think she's going to keep waging. >> if you're designing the obama presidential library you can be pretty confident on the obamacare room. two supreme court decisions now pretty clear, republicans may try, but that one is now cement is hardening. the trade bill you mentioned is a big legacy item for the president will help him on the world stage right now. so the legacy's locked in. what else? when you hear him, look at him, he does look and sound different. the question is to what end? >> well i think you can put an asterisk on a lot of these things before you call them obama victories. two of these are supreme court decisions which the president doesn't have anything to do with. gay marriage is something that he resisted if disingenuously
until 2012. and the supreme court, you know, chose to take this case that many even some republicans didn't think had a lot of substance to it. so -- and so it's sort of a coincidence that these are now accruing as victories for obama. but i think what it is is, this sort of -- this cements this feeling that, you know, the hope and change that obama promised that people complained so much about it not coming through, or you know from republicans' point of view, what they were always calling the fundamental transformation that they feared from obama, it's finally starting to accrue, and this is what we will look back on, as that legacy. as the obama era sort of dawning, and signaling a change in the country's direction. >> you make a key point. a ronald reagan appointee on the marriage decision with the four democratic appointees. and the chief justice twice now, the chief justice barack obama as a senator voted against saving his health care programs. >> and that's, i think, what is going to be for the right is the real emotional blow.
the confederate flag is being hauled down by an indian american republican governor. the supreme court ruled on marriage and on the health care law, thanks in part to a reagan skand a george w. bush appointee. this is not the liberal left that's doing some of this. part of this is being upheld by conservatives. and in fairness to obama and the asteri asterisk, i think bin laden's toe tag has no asterisk on it. >> where we go now kind of depends on what he does with his fearlessness. does he have a mandate for a full liberal agenda? or is he going back to his fundamental reason why he got elected? to change the culture in washington and bring people together. if he uses fearlessness to run back to things like the debt, gun control, to run to immigration, where i still think there's possibilities to get compromises on some of these big issues. that would be you're talking about going from good to great, that would be pretty -- >> how much time is left on the clock there. >> heading into a presidential
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let's head around the "inside politics" table. nia-malika henderson? >> the senate democrats need five net seats to take back the senate and they very much obviously want to do this. but these attempts to gain back the senate took something of a blow this last week when kay hagan the former north carolina senator decided that she didn't want to toss her hat in the ring and go up against richard burr in 2016. democrats thought it would be perfect. she'd be on the ballot there, hillary clinton presumably would be on the ballot as well so now they've got to go to plan "b." it might include somebody like anthony fox who is the transportation secretary, former charlotte mayor. he seems to suggest that he doesn't want to do it either. at this point, democrats are very much trying to recruit folks in hoping to turn some of these nos into yeses, particularly with anthony fox. >> if you end up at plan "c" that's usually not a good thing.
>> the program seated by george h.w. bush, launched by president clinton and expanded by president bush is about to be dramatically cut by congress which would be a huge blow to president obama i'm talking about a rare bipartisan success, of the national service programs. kind of under the amare care umbrella, including teach for america, habitat for humanity. these are all programs that give a purpose to civic-minded millennials, in communities like ferguson and baltimore, or in detroit, and charlotte. and that provide services to communities like baltimore, ferguson, charlotte, and detroit. but the republicans both in the house and senate are looking at cutting it by a third. which would dramatically reduce it well below the levels even under bush. what about that last week what is new is that the community, the national service community which is pretty active in addition to doing normal grassroots pushback on this plan to do two things. one play the hypocrisy card against the republicans. they're going to go right after the appropriators who have used national service programs in press releases as to say look at
what i've brought into the district. and now they're going to cut these programs. and they'll go to shame the white house and point out the fact that the white house has done very little to make this a priority. and the head of the big national service program, she e-mailed the white house, and said what are you guys doing about this? she didn't even get an e-mail back. >> a lot of legitimate conversations about resources. what those groups do. molly ball? >> this is a big of a self plug for a big story that will be published in the coming week about this fight for gay marriage and how it came to the supreme court. it's become sort of a cliche to observe how fast the, the, the public opinion has changed and, and, and how quickly the country got out ahead of the supreme court so that the supreme court only seemed to be ratifying public opinion that was already there it's up to 60% in a lot of national polls. but that didn't happen by accident. that wasn't an organic phenomenon. that wasn't just a natural process.
it was the work really of 40 years of very determined activism against very long odds, something that seemed impossible for decades by a group of activists who were very stubborn. and refused to give up. and so i'm telling their story, and can read it on the atlantic dotcom. >> what to watch for when it comes to the conservative running for president, after this week's marriage. i think you're going to see them try to make the issue about two things. the kind of appointees that future presidents are going to make to the supreme court and secondly this broader conversation about what is liberty. i think a lot of folks on the right recognize that trying to fight a supreme court decision is politically not going to be easy. if they make it about those two issues, they can -- at the same time sort of satisfy conservative primary voters but also, not push back against public pippion. >> we'll watch that one play out. those debates are getting closer. democrats may roll their eyes, go ahead, but the hillary clinton private e-mails
controversy now has new legs and the democratic front-runner has only herself to blame. after the house collect benghazi committee released some new e-mails this past week the obama state department was forced to admit it was not in possession of some clinton e-mails that clearly discussed department business. now you might recall secretary clinton a few months ago had promised she had turned everything that belonged in the government files over to the government before she erased her private e-mail server. now republicans are saying now that we know a few e-mails are missing, who's to say dozens and dozens aren't missing. now let's be clear. there's zero proof of that. but the flip side is secretary clinton can't definitively prove there aren't additional things that should have been turned over to the government that were not. she can't prove that because she erased her private e-mail server without any independent supervision. now will some republicans blow this out of proportion or wonder into the land of conspiracy theories? perhaps. probably. but as democrats accuse them of being partisan or reckless it's worth remembering this, this would not be an issue if secretary clinton hadn't erased her e-mail server.
it wouldn't be an issue at all had she followed the wishes of her because, president obama, about how to handle cabinet level e-mail. that's it for "inside politics." thanks for sharing your sunday morning. "state of the union" starts right now. obama's grace note. ♪ amazing grace >> the president takes the pulpit preaching on faith, racism, and gun violence. what's he going to do for an encore? this after a week of victories for the white house. ♪ o says >> same-sex marriage, obamacare and trade. as contenders on the campaign trail race to react. plus, the donald. his poll numbers are no joke. they show him hot on jeb bush's tail. and trump tells me, his fellow republicans should take notice. >> you know he takes me se
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