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docks, people fishing off piers, that's also a bad place to see. i've spent a lot of times in the water with sharks whenever you see one, don't start splashing around just be very still. they're not there to eat you. >> jennifer a couple kids with boogie board were going where that fisherman's pole is. that's it for "the lead." wolf blitzer and "the situation room" right now. \s overwhelming response dozens of emergency vehicles answer a single call of a gunshot. just how jittery authorities are over possible threats over the holiday. how real is the danger? perpetual war, the nation's top military commander warns as the world faces growing terrorism and chaos, america can look forward to constant combat against isis and al qaeda, or even russia or china. is this the new norm?
no trump. that may be what some of his republican rivals are wishing for after the billionaire candidate sets off another firestorm is he hurting the gop brand? and un small step. is it really just a cover to develop missiles that can hit the american homeland? i'm wolf blitzer, you're in "the situation room." america right now an inch over july 4th with federal authorities warning of possible terror threats, a security alert at the navy yard was taken very seriously today. dozens of police and emergency vehicles responded to a 911 call of possible shots fired, less than two years after a gunman killed a dozen people there. the base was put olockdown streets were blocked off, as s.w.a.t. teams conducted a
room-by-room search. all of the big stories, and i'll speak with mike rogers. let's begin with our justice correspondent pamela brown. she has the latest. >> today's overwhelming response from law enforcement came in part because of the eerie similarity to the naval yard shooting two years ago, but also the result of officials being on heightened alert, given the significant terror concerns. itten folded with a 7:30 a.m. 911 call from a woman inside the navy yard the entire complex
was put on lockdown after that. dozens of law enforcement personnel, and helicopters hovered above the without, even canceled ought tours. nearly three hours later, the all-clear was given, and the indicate was that this wasn't a hoax that this woman actually heard gunhots, adding to the fear that police in new jersey were investigating a bomb threat at a mosque. that one did turn out to be a hoax. >> of course as law enforcement not wanting to take any chances here wolf. >> it's a serious situation over there, obviously. there was considerable fear with that massive response was it the result of these heightened july 4th concerns based on anything you're hearing over there, pamela? >> i think the feeling that a lot of people are skittish a lot of people in and out of laws enforcement, given what we've
been concerned about all week the concern of the holiday, and corresponding with ramadan, so i certainly think all of that contributed to today's response but at the same time there has been a history there at the navy yard in that building from the shooting there a couple years ago, so i'm sure that also played a role. >> thank you pamela. federal authorities have put out a nationwide alert, has already been stepped up for the holiday. let's bring in our justice reporter evan perez. you were among the first on the scene at the navy yard. people were frightened. >> it was visible. there were people shaking, women hugging each other. this was a traumatic event for them and there were people i talked to who came out building 197, which is the building where a shooter stalked the has, and shooting them so the fear was very real very palpable.
that was a reaction we had from law enforcement. they also were traumatized by the less than perfect response they had back in 2013. today it worked a lot better. >> i know you're speaking to your sources at the department of homeland security the justice department the fbi, right here in d.c. the connection between these heightened pre-july 4th holiday concerns, the terror alerts that have gone out nationwide and the fbi to the enormous response we saw this morning. >> i think some of response was frankly the result of 2013. it definitely does play into the fact there are all these heightened concerned about this week frankly after july 5th, it doesn't change. ramadan is still inning, isis is making these calls out for attacks, and we're told that fbi and other law enforcement and intelligence agencies are keeping an eye, monitoring communication that they believe indicate there are people who
are trying to plot attacks here in this country. than that you're going to see -- i suspect a few more scares over the next few days. >> thank you very much evan reporting for us. with much of the world in the grip of some chaos right now. terrorism on the rise and american forces in harm's way. the pentagon is warning -- get used to it. our chief national security correspondent jim scuitto has been looking into in part of the story for us. >> it's a daunting read the chairman of the joint chiefs completing the new national military strategy delivered to the defense secretary that outlines the military priority. it paints a daunting picture -- long wars against multiple enemies who cross borders, and with no clear victory, signs of conflicts that the military is already seeing in iraq in syria, in afghanistan, and beyond. a state of perpetual war, the
new normal says the pentagon in its latest military assessment. joint chiefs chairman general martin dempsey warns that today's global security environment is the most unpredictable he has seen in 40 years of military service. >> global disorder has trended upward while some of our comparative advantages have begun to erode. >> deeply concerning as the pentagon prepares the military to fight nonstate actors such as isis, and aqap in extended conflicts we really are in a state of a new normal where they will be engaged militarily. such as russia.
and iran even more dauntingly the pentagon warnings of a lowing threat again a major power, including russia rage and china, well beyond their borders. 600 miles from its shorts. leading to tense confrontations in the exile. >> military aircraft this is china ears navy you are approaching our military alert zone. leave immediately. none of them seem to be seeking direct military conflict with the united states or our allyiesallies nonetheless they pose serious
security concerns. >> the united states will bump into what i would call expansionist and growing aggressive nations in terms of trying to accomplish their national objectives. >> one other to add to the list is north korea, growing nuclear capability but to highlight the point of long wars it's been more than 5,000 days since the u.s. military first deployed to afghanistan after the 9/11 attacks, and u.s. forces still there. >> the longers war in u.s. history. we're learning jim, a major isis leader has been taken out, what have you learned? >> we learned this just a short time killing tariq al harzi, and this is crucial for moving foreign fighters and weapons into sir-and-and iraq but also for running suicide operations. they had a $3 million reward on his al harzi is tunisian and
believed to be -- and of course we saw an isis attack includes one claimed responsibility for in tunisia, killing more than 30 british foreign tourists there, showing isis's power beyond the borders of iraq and sir use. joining us the former chairman of the house intelligence committee, cnn national security commentator mike rogers. thanks very much for coming in. first of all, what do you make of the u.s. taking out this guy, al harzi, a $3 million reward? big deal? >> big deal. he did a couple things. a, he was moving weapons we think beyond the borders of syria and iraq helping out other affiliates. second le he was coordinating suicide bomber operations. they would i don't those operations in military tactics. if you rail this would send suicide bombers in then troops in he would also coordinate efforts for individual terrorist type suicide bombing attacks as
well. this was a big get. it will be disrupt i have to their operation they for some period of time. the key is if this is what we do and we wait another six months that lack of tempo will cause them and allow them to rebuild very quickly. that's unfortunate if they let that happen. >> tariq al harzi, called the emir of suicide bombers. is this the new normal as the pentagon is suggesting? >> i think in the current conditionally absolutely. if we're not willing to do a disruptive event? syria, in iraq and i mean a logistics package that includes medevac, special capability soldiers then we'll be at this for a very long time. if you lynn to what dempsey said per petty on a current path and we're losing some strategic advantage. he's saying that's self-inflicted to the united
states. if we drawback from the world, don't taye aggressive steps, we don't push back hard enough on china or russia's expansion, they're going to continue to push that envelope. this is reversible but we can expect to have a long ugly brutal war under the current conditions of which we're trying to fight it. >> is this the highest threat level going into a july 4th holiday weekend since 9/11? >> i would say yes, but against cautious is good, hysteria is not. the indicators they would look at wolf on all of these levels so they have the -- a leader of isis saying you'll get extra bon us points in heaven if you do an event in ramadan. obviously the fourth of july is a big holiday, and then early chatter, then you saw the events arrange the world with the british tourists, you saw it in kuwait some activities in france and other places you saw
the arrests here in the united states so their activities met the rhetoric.- that's why i think they're going cautious they're saying we have a lot of rhetoric saying bad things are going to happen we seen lots of community indication between people let's raise the alert s. but again there's nothing specific. i would not alter your plans, i don't believe it's that serious. i think it's serious enough they're worried that someone will self-act investigate and try to do something. >> when you get these kinds of directives coming in the director of the fbi, the head of counterterrorism at the nypd people obviously are going to get nervous, but i think you give good advice. stand by. we'll take a quick break, then more with mike rogers, when we come back. it takes a lot of work... to run this business. i'm on the move all day long... and sometimes, i just don't eat the way i should. so i drink boost to get the nutrition that i'm missing. boost complete nutritional drink has 26 essential vitamins and minerals including calcium and vitamin d
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with material authorities warning of possible terror threats tied to the july 4th holiday weekend, law enforcement on a heightened state of alert across the country. and a massive response for a 911 call indicates just how seriously the warnings are being taken. we're back with mike rogers. is the concern more about some isolated lone individual a lone wolf as he's called inspired by isis? or some sort of more complex plot directed by al qaeda, shall we say, to take down a plane or bomb a building? >> primarily the former. the latter involves lots of logistical planning that allows intelligence services to disrupt. they would get some sense of that -- not always but they
would get some sense there was a bigger operation. what they are worried about now because of this self -- the calls through social media, how often they are touching people in the united states around europe they being isis say this is your time. it's ramadan, we want you to step up to the plate and engage in some terrorist attack. it doesn't mean -- but they're activated in their own minds to go do something. that's so much more different for law enforcement and intelligence services to disrupt. it doesn't have the logisticing package that goes with it where they can get a sense of what's happening. >> i'm told they're very obviously concerned about the social media talent that isis shall we say, is going out. you have under mid july or so you get extra points in heaven if you engage in a suicide
attack right now, but beyond the public receipt ricks, the leader of isis sending out a message publicly there's a lot of chatter they say that's now encrypted, it's much more difficult to monitor. >> well it's very problematic. the big political debate in america, we were concerned a phone call from syria to the united states might be going to a u.s. citizen window a warrant. we are on the wrong side of this political debate. they have made it more difficult for our intelligence services to try to get the information they need. they'll get it it just takes longer and number two, the encorrupted communication is now global so the terrorists have taken full advantage of a communication system that our intelligence service can't break, to communicate terrorist operational actions. this is a big and growing problem for all of us. i know the debate on privacy, and we certainly need to protect that but we have now created a
network, a social media network, that is immune from intelligence and law enforcement intervention they can use to plan and carry out attacks. it's a huge problem. that's why law enforcement is on edge. >> we matter from congresswoman martha mcsally yesterday. she said and she's done some checking throughout the federal government in terms of counters the social media capabilities of isis and these other terror groups you know how many federal employees in the department of homeland security fbi, state department elsewhere there are who are engaged in counters that social media pro-u.s. social media? you know how many she said? >> i would be interesting in her number. >> 16. 16 people in the federal government working against the hundreds if not thousands of isis sympathizers out there who are spreading their anti-american terrorist propaganda. >> even when i was chairman there was no coordinated effort
to go against the social media messaging against isis. they have come a whole other generation beloaned the al qaeda videos the grainy videos in the cave with osama bin laden preaches and providing advice and counsel. they are now and gressive and doing it very well. it's completely targeted to their audience a younger viewer music, and it's hip music. the messages is geared toward that individual and it's about empowerment. it's very well done very flashy. it moves a lot. it would draw your attention, draw your eye, and inspire someone to do something they might not want to do. >> it's hard for me to believe they are so much better at social media than we are. >> we can't get the policy right, because it's always pushed back including congress you have to be careful, theres some free speech in there. my mother used to tell me your free speech ends when the end of
your fist touches the beginning of my nose when you have terrorists propagandizing teaching people how to build bombs, telling people this is your chance grab a gun and go shoot somebody or get a knife and cut their head off, this is a time for us to act. the reason there is only 16 is there's paralysis across the federal government about what to do how do you push back? capability exists we just need to connect that capability with policy. >> we know the president of the united states military the cia, they authorize drone strikes, whatever to take out military commanders of isis. just day we say the emir of suicide bombers killed a $3 million bounty on his head. he's gone. is there a similar program to take out their social media propagandists propagandists, if you will? or is it they are off-limits? >> i don't think they're off-limits but the policy hasn't married up to the threat.
if the congresswok is right and there's only 16 across the government it tells you there's no coordinated effort to go after a disruption activity. that could kinetic, as you talked about in the case of al harzi, who was just taken off the battlefield, or it could be a cyber-disruption. either way, you can help stop that messages. when you have a military organization combining its efforts, including social media, that means they are legitimate targets when they declare war on the united states as they are doing. our policy haz matched up to that. >> mike rogers thanks very much. important information as we go into the holiday weekend. coming up donald trump talks about immigration and rape. republican leaders cringe. we're going to survey the political damage. later an exclusive, an inside look at kim jong-un's space program. is it peaceful as the north koreans claim?
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possible shooter? >> wolf it's hard to tell. we're seeing the view down the street of all the police cars and flashing lights. we couldn't tell be the camera angles how much of a respond they had, and chief kathy lanier of the washington metro police department said later this was the normal reaction they had trained and prepared for. it wasn't increased because of the fourth of july holiday or any recent threats, that this is what what they expected, and planned this response after practicing following the 2013 attack. the 2013 attack colonel hurtling i that played a role when there was a call that there could be shots being fired. >> all indicators wolf were inside the naval yard the base commander had a pretty calm and collected plan. he had coordinated with the police and the navy security detail that inside the yard in
the search of the buildings and the elements that occurred were pretty smooth and pretty coordinated, but i have to tell you, from a former commander standpoint to me the washington police need to do a quick after-action review. i hate to critique but it looked like a bunch of kids running toward a soccer ball in a 5-year-old game. it was uncoordinated on the outside. it looked like everybody was heading towards the outer streets around that naval yard. we all need to take a deep breath when these kind of calls come in. >> i think that's well said. there were so many law enforcement personnel, washington d.c. police others just running towards that area. fortunately nothing bad occurred but it could have been bad indeed. phil i said to play a clip. this is from john miller the head of counterterrorism a lot of experience in this area. we all know him, used to be an
intelligence analyst for abc news cbs, i want you to listen to this. >> this may be potentially the most complex counter-terrorism overlay for this eye vent effort. >> that's pretty strong words. what do you make of that? >> you have to separate two things. he's talking about the police response to what's happening in new york that is the celebration for july 4th. that's different than talking about the threat. some people have been saying this is the biggest threat stream or most concerned weefds since 9/11 this is nonsense. we didn't understand the al qaeda adversary after 9/11 we saw a major plot again airplane carat, a plot against the subways, there's a group of sympathizers in this country, but anybody who says this is the biggest threat since 9/11 i would like to go toe to go. go have a cold beer on july 4th.
i think we'll be okay. >> are they overreacting to this potential isis threat? >> they face a different quandary which if you say nothing, somebody happens, therein a 9/11-style commission and you're called before it. if you look at the dozen or so major threat warnings we have seen everybody wakes up the day after the threat expires and we're all alive, and my intuition is on july 6th we will all, you know be going about our business. >> you heard the former acting director say a couple days ago he wouldn't be surprised if 9 day after july 4th we all realize there was a major attack. >> well we have 48 hours to find out, but the ramadan will continue until the middle of this month, so there is obviously this heightened threat, but even in the worst case it's going to be some kind
of wannabe jihadi or the type we saw in garland texas, and they ended up both dead. there were no other k5sh89s, so i think a bit of perspective. i agree with my colleague phil on this one. >> general hurtling a british abase used by u.s. forces has canceled the july 4th event over security fears. should u.s. military bases in this country, overseas go about business as usual during not only this weekend, but through the month of ramadan which ends in mid july? >> it's a tough call. i had to make that decision as a commander of the u.s. army in europe. we had about 60 bases around the country not only in germany, but in italy, and some of the ones had constant threat streams that we had to monitor 678 you have to make your intelligencedecision.
you can't cancel it across the board, but if you have a threat in one location and it's prudent to cancel the activities it's a good thing for a commander to do. i don't know the situation at the british base where the u.s. forces are. that may be the case and it's in england, from what i understand. they've been having some difficulties with some gee aheadists in that country. >> i assume a coalition air strike killed the emir of suicide bombers, a guy by the name of tariq al harzi today. is this a big deal or little deal? >> well you know one person being taken off the battlefield doesn't equal a successful campaign. you have to take out the entire network. this guy will be replaced tomorrow by somebody else with the same job. not to underplay he was a significant player but you have to take out the entire middle management of this group. >> phil you agree? >> i would take a step 23r5rd. i think it's a big deal of that.
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breaking now, we're getting word of growing anxiety among republican leaders because of all the attention and potential damage among latino voters generated almost every time donald trump talks about immigration, athena jones is keeping track of the back lash. >> well this really could turn into a big political issue for the republicans. they're trying to expand the abale to -- >> they're killing or country. >> a fiery donald trump. >> people are pouring over the border. >> combative as ever. >> why did you have to say they were rapists.
>> telling don lemon his attack is backed up by a 2014 fusion report about central american women raped while traveling to the border. >> all you have to do is go to fusion and pick up the stories on rape. >> that's about women being raped. it's not about criminals coming across the border or entering the country. >> somebody is doing the raping don. >> reporter: one of the report's author says the mogul misrepresented the findings. the firestorm comes as the republican party is trying to make inroads with his spain voters to win back the white house in 2016 pushing his rivals to distance themselves from him. >> i don't think donald trump's remarks reflect the republican parties. >> the comments were inappropriate. they have no place in the race. >> when you label a group of people as rapists and drug dealers, it's more about you than it is them. >> reporter: george pataki calling on the rest of the field
to denounce trump, prompting the tycoon to tweet insults. there were blasts even before pataki's letter. >> i don't agree with him, pretty simple. >> trump telling cnn he doesn't think much of bush or his chances of becoming president. >> i don't think he has the gravitas. >> and that christie's moments has passed. >> i think it's just not going to happen. >> but not everyone is piling on the former reality star. ted cruz prompted a thank-you tweet from the donald when he defended him on fox tuesday, doubling down a day later. >> i think he speaks the truth. i don't think you should apologize for speaking out against the problem that is illegal immigration. >> while marco rubio and kentucky senator rand paul ducked the question. >> >> i'm not in the business today of addressing and taking
on other candidates on the race. >> i don't know what he's been saying but apparently he's drawing a lot of attention. >> it's helping trump rise in the polls, but costing lucrative deals, now serta is putting to rest the line of trump mattresses. the advocacy group hispanics across america is calling on amazon ebay and century 21 department stores to cut ties with trump. >> athena, thanks very much. in wisconsin, meanwhile earlier this afternoon president obama took a couple swipes at the candidates. he also took credit for some of the best economic numbers of his presidency. we learned today that june's unemployment rate fell to 5.3%. it hasn't been that low sings april of 2008 when the jobless rate was 5%. the u.s. economy was just starting to collapse and peaked by the way, at 10% during president obama's first
year in office. it's been coming down slowly but steadily ever since. let's go to michelle kosinski. she joins us with more. >> reporter: this was like a president obama victory lap part 2. on the one hand you always have the without touting numbers, but on the other you have analysts who say, wait a minute what about wage tag nation? how many people have given up out of frustration? so the question is is the american economy doing well or not? the answer is it is doing pretty well especially when you compare it on other countries overseas that are still grappling to recover. >> the bottom line is top-down economics doesn't woirk middle-class economics works. >> fired up over jobs ute 223,000 added in june unemployment at the lowest in seven years. add to that another sharp dig at
republicans. >> i'm lost count how many republicans are running. they'll have enough for an actual hunger games. they keep on coming up with the same old trickle-down you're on your own economics that helped bring about the crisis back in 2007 2008 in the first play. >> here in d.c. >> i got hired! a woman just said congratulations. >> reporter: ryan jackson from michigan moved here to find better prospects, and found two in one date -- at a restaurant and in retail. he accepted both. knolls his dream jobs but it's changed his life. >> it was about me my personality, what they people thought i was bring to their companies. so it was an ego booster. >> the latest report shows some healthy hiring including a wealthy up tick in demand and yet another drop in unemployment to 5.3% now.
this is the longest stretch of private sector job growth in u.s. history. 5.6 million jobs total added in just the last two years. while wages remain largely stagnant for those being hired, things are at least looking up. >> that's two jobs in one day! >> so one of the questions that's out there is when you look at that lower unemployment number how much of that is because a lot of people simply stopped looking for a job because they couldn't find one or large number of baby boomers now hiding retirement. another good number is underemployment. how many people have jobs but want to be working more hours, or people who are overqualified for the jobs they've been able to find? that number is also down. an that's a good sign. >> good to have a job, certainly a lot better than being unxwloimd. all right, michelle. thanks very much. coming up cnn takes you inside north korea for an
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tonight we have an exclusive and disturbing look inside north korea's space program. cnn's will ripley traveled to pyongyang. he spoke with north korean insiders. here's his exclusive report. >> reporter: 90 seconds after launch in april 2012 this north korean rocket exploded. it was the latest in a string of disappointments for pe wrong yain's fledgling space program. eight months later, a different story. a north korean observation satellite reportedly made orbit.
two of the scientists behind that launch deny claims from western observers the satellite was damaged, essentially becoming space junk. it's running normally says this man. of course sometimes we have problems with communication and data transmission. nada has seen more stumbles than success. that's not stopping north korea from annual increases in space spending. even as wealthier nations cut back. the u.n. world food program says 18 million north koreans, 70% of the population is food insecure. highly vulnerable to food shortages. >> is this a program that your country can afford? it's essential, he says our goal is to improve the economy and people's living standards. he says observation satellites will lead to advances in weather forecasting and agriculture. helping north korea reach its goal of producing enough food to feed its own people.
late leader kim jong-il made science and technology one of north korea's three pillars of power and prosperity along with ideology and guns. many international experts say pe wrongyong many international experts say pe wrongyongyang pyongyang's space program is really a ballistic missile program in disguise. we find that absurd, says this man. the united states and its followers are trying to stifle and isolate my country. he claims north korea already has ballistic missiles that can hit anywhere in the world. the u.s. and its allies worry about pyongyang's growing nuclear arsenal and suspected cooperation with nations like iran. if i tell you which countries are cooperating with us, the united states will accuse them of developing intercontinental negligent ballistic missile technology he says adding fear of bullying and sanctions scares away prospective partners. crippling u.n. sanctions have hurt but not stopped north korean space ambitions. these scientists say at least two advance satellites are ready to launch any time.
their message, especially to the american people pyongyang's "peaceful space program" poses no threat. trust us he says the west is too suspicious about our program. if you won't trust us at least suspend the sanctions and don't stop us from going forward. despite decades of isolation, sanctions, and struggle north korea continues developing its space program. they'd like international cooperation but say they'll keep going with or without it. coming up we're learning more about this terrible plane crash caught on camera. we have new details about a pilot's stunning mistake.
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