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which is when congress gets the deal. if they get it by thursday then congress only gets a 30-day period to review. if not, it goes to 60 days. you heard senator bob corker the chairman of the senate foreign relation say it's a good deal. >> elise labott thank you so much. "newsroom" with brooke baldwin starts right now. all right. brianna keilar thank you so much. this is cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. you think you may have heard all of the arguments with regard to the immigration debate but a tragic story out of northern california has ignited conversations in a way that perhaps you may not have imagined. kate was out for a walk with her father on a pier a popular tourist area lots and lots of people around when she was shot and killed. the suspect is this man, juan francisco lopez sanchez, an undocumented immigrant with
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multiple previous felonies on his record deported to mexico five times in his past and in custody in april but he was released because san francisco is a sanctuary city and it's a policy not to detain people suspected of immigration violations even if the federal government would like them to. let me bring in my colleague sara sidner. she is local in san francisco. he admits to shooting her. did he explain how he got the gun? >> reporter: he did. he talked about how he found the gun wrapped up in a t-shirt he claims. what we do not know is whether he has confessed to police but he certainly talked to a local reporter about what happened and why he fired the gun. let me let you listen to that before we talk about the other issues that this has brought up. >> did you shoot steinle.
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>> yes. >> you did shoot her? >> yes. >> where did you get the gun? >> in the ground. when the -- over there in the bench. i put my leg and i see the one t-shirt and then see it over there and shoot that boom, boom, three times. >> reporter: now, he reportedly told police that he was shooting at sea lions at one point and absolutely didn't mean to shoot at anybody. there is a memorial on the spot where kate steinle was shot. it's a difficult time for the family dealing with the searing loss. they are not talking about the political ramifications.
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they are talking about who she was and the fact that it hurts them so much they are trying to get through the grief at this hour. >> did at any point in that conversation did the suspect, sanchez, in speaking with that local reporter -- he mentioned specifically one of the reasons why he was in san francisco was because it was this so called sanctuary city. >> yeah he did. he was asked about it specifically. why he came back to san francisco specifically. he had been deported five times and federal authorities said he would have been deported a sixth time had officials not let him out of jail without notifying the immigration services here. however, san francisco has said look we were following the law as question know it. there was a federal judge that struck down local authorities holding onto suspects for deportation without a court order which san francisco said it didn't have. however, he said that yes, he came back to san francisco because, number one, he was looking for work and, number two, he knew this was a
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sanctuary city a city that wouldn't easily deport him. so this is why he chose this place. again, he has said to a local reporter that he did accidently shoot steinle and should be given the maximum punishment. brooke? >> sara sidner thank you in san francisco. this has a lot of people upset and saddened and angry for taking this innocent life but there are other angles to this as well. the other issues of the federal immigration policy. a refusal to comply with federal immigration laws and then the political angle, donald trump, the so-called i told you so moment. yes, he's weighing in on this case calling steinle's death senseless and the u.s. needs a better approach to illegal immigration. let me bring in mr. reyes and mel robinson legal commentator and analyst. mel, to you first just on this sanctuary city notion do you
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think if you have these cities that -- i don't know if look the other way is the right way to put it or not and force certain federal laws. do you think that incentivizes certain immigrants to flock to those cities? >> i think the answer is yes. let's back up a minute and it's collapsed into a major issue. let me explain what sanctuary city means. >> please. >> in terms of immigration, you can have a warrant issued by an immigration judge which is a legally binding agreement that requires you to hold somebody in your custody or you can have these i.c.e. holds which are a request. >> okay. >> that a local city hold on to somebody for an extra 48 hours just in case the immigration authorities would like to come speak to them. now, here's why sanctuary cities exist. number one, extremely costly.
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there was a study done in 2009 $65 million to taxpayers. that's the cost for holding people that the immigration would like to talk to. also there's the issue that this creates major distrust between an immigrant community and the police because they fear deportation and then finally, there's a public safety problem. it may sound weird that i'm saying that but the reason it's a public safety issue is because if you create distrust people are not going to cooperate with authorities. and so these are reasons why costs -- also liability. if i hold you, brooke and i hold you over the constitutional limit and you sue me san francisco, we're liable. >> okay. >> that's why they do this. >> okay. this is also raul where you have the divide and the debate. you have some folks saying this is a case of somebody who had seven felony convictions on his record deported five times and made his way back up here a criminal.
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>> uh-huh. >> and then you have the folks who are relatively law abiding, would like to be here seek better lives in another camp right? >> uh-huh. >> so you have both sides. law enforcement, you could argue, should perhaps focus more on the criminals. >> uh-huh. >> what say you? >> well i think there is some -- a lot of misinformation and confusion arising from the term of sanctionsuary cities. it doesn't mean that immigration law is not enforced in those cities. it's not as though undocumented i am grants are not deported or it's a free pass to be there. it just means that the state and local authorities are not going to in effect, act as immigration agents. they require the federal government to enforce immigration law. it's interesting because the whole notion of sanctuary cities came from law enforcement because they don't like it. another reason they don't like it is because they are not
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trained in it. >> the other side of the camp would say they are not doing their job. >> right. but historically and legally, immigration enforcement is the problem of the federal government. >> under the 10th amendment. he was serving time for a felony. what was the felony? because he had returned after being deported. >> right. >> now, when that sentence was over if the federal government was that interested in deporting him, wouldn't they have put a hold on him when he was in federal custody? no, they didn't. >> and they could have put a warrant and the city would have been required to -- >> and that wasn't done? >> and it wasn't done. >> so in a way you could actually argue that cases like this are an argument against the type of immigration we have right now which casts a broad net, it let's dangerous individuals like him go free, fall through the cracks while the government is chases after gardeners and maids. >> but you can understand -- you don't have to agree with it but we've been playing these sound
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bites from donald trump. this is for the donald trumps of the world an "i told you so moment". >> of course. >> this is jeb bush responding to this over the weekend, specifically to trump's derogatory remarks. he broke with other republicans breaking with what trump said. >> this is a guy who was a democrat for most of the last decade. i don't think he represents the republican party and his views are way out of the mainstream of what republicans think. no one suggests that we shouldn't control our borders. i mean everybody has a belief that we should control our borders. but to make she's extraordinarily ugly kind of comments is not reflective of the republican party. trump is wrong on this. >> trump is wrong. trump is also polling quite well. >> yes. >> he is polling quite well and he again, said this death is senseless and is proving, i guess you could say, his point.
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what would you say to donald trump? >> well first of all, he's not an immigration expert other than the fact that i think he married two immigrants. i understand what jeb bush is saying certainly people are upset, this is a terrible tragedy. if anything i think these republican candidates ought to consider this type of incident makes the case for president obama's executive action on immigration, which is tied up in the courts if we had something like that it would allow our government to focus on felons and not cast such a broad net. we haven't been doing that. whatever side you're on i think most people will believe and say that our system is totally dysfunctional right now and as long as we stay with the status quo, it's going to remain that way in the future. >> okay. >> i think actually that he's right, that it was senseless. and he's right that it was preventible. but he's dead wrong on how you actually fix it. >> mel and rob, thank you. >> thank you. is it time to take it down?
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the confederate flag in south carolina being debated right now inside of the state capitol. this is as supporters are turning out to defend what they say is a piece of american history. a live report, next. and fugitive david sweat is now back behind bars moved to this maximum security prison now on suicide watch and spending 23 hours a day in confinement. we'll talk to a former federal inmate about what life will be like for sweat, presumably for the rest of his life. pope francis is returning to south america. look at this. rock star reception. massive crowds here turning out to greet him in ecuador and the message he's delivering, straight ahead.
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you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. question will there be enough unity for the confederate flag.
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nearly three weeks after the massacre in the church in south carolina lawmakers are debating whether to remove it. some say this is about southern heritage. lawmakers once vehemently supported the flag. >> there's a difference between a banner that flutters in the breeze out there versus a monument. huge difference. huge difference. and i don't think until what happened a few weeks ago that so devastated the state and our country, i don't think i ever really appreciated that seeing that thing fluttering out there in a way that sort of gives some official status to it on behalf of the people of south carolina. that doesn't represent all the
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people of south carolina. >> let's go to nick valencia live there in columbia where lawmakers began debating a couple of hours ago. bring us up to speed. where does the debate stand and what about a vote? >> reporter: the short answer brooke is it's unclear. marlin kimpson introduced the bill and he said they adjourned from the special session that adjourned at 10:00 a.m. to decide where republicans and democrats stood on that vote. the details, we just don't know. earlier this week -- i should say late last week on friday the state's leading newspaper surveyed lawmakers and it appeared at that point that there were enough votes to pass this bill that would permanently remove the confederate flag from state grounds. in the last six hours, all of that might have inkchanged. one of the co-sponsors of this bill earlier addressed his colleagues in the senate.
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>> it's one small piece of that culture of division that we live in but it's one small piece that we can do something about and we can do it this week. and we should. >> reporter: now, in order for this bill to pass it's going to take a two-thirds majority in the state general assembly. that amounts to 31 votes in the senate 75 in the house. whether or not they get those votes, it could turn out to be a more dramatic week than expected. we were told by one former representative that it could have happened -- the vote could have happened as early as thursday if everything went smoothly. it doesn't appear that things are going as smoothly as projected. brooke? >> so earlier, nick that governor nikki haley could get this could be the end of the week. yes? >> that's right. the end of the week and it's going to take her to sign it and what we're told if this bill passes -- now, if this bill passes the flag will be removed swiftly. it will be an unceremonious
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removal where it will be transferred to a local museum here and that's where it will stay. >> nick valencia, thank you very much. coming up former fugitive david sweat is back in custody and on suicide watch. what will life be like for him now? also ahead, how the chris christie with the greek economy could affect financial markets here in the u.s. what that means for you and why our cnn money folks say really we should pay attention to what has happened in china. no artificial flavors, colors sweeteners preservatives, and no artificial smiles. because clean dressings, taste better. panera. food as it should be.
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after 23 days on the run and a week in hospital david sweat is now back in prison.
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you're about to see his new home here. this is a newer maximum prison where he'll be spending 23 hours a day in the prison's special housing unit. this is a place where inmates spend all but one hour in solitary confinement. just think about that. one hour. it's a tiny 105-square foot room with a bathroom. larry, glad to have you back. >> glad to be with you. >> let's talk about this place. we did some investigation and back in 2011 there was a hole in a fence, found a dummy like the dummies that sweat and matt left behind their beds. so do you think that they will be keeping extra eyes on david sweat as he's at this place? >> well his accommodations they've certainly changed.
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you know his world is now a 10 by 10 cell. they have him on suicide watch. he's not wearing a uniform. he's wearing a paper mache jump suit because they don't want him to hang himself and they either have a plexiglass wall where they can watch him or closed circuit cameras on him 24 hours a day. he's going to have no privacy, no mingling with other inmates, no tv his world has changed completely. this is a maximum security institution. if you compare it to clinton, clinton had about 3,000 people. this place has roughly 1500 people and 71% of them it's reported are dangerous maximum security inmates.
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but the place was built in 2000 so it's brand new, essentially. so the whole institution is going to be high-tech, high security the staff is on alert. i mean the whole new york d.o.c. is on alert now but they are really cracking down. all of the things that we heard going on in clinton, i can assure you these aren't happening at five points. they are on the guards right now. they are watching this guy. >> you learned a little bit more about david sweat. you talked to someone who did time with him who called him quiet and calculating. what stories did he share with you? >> well he said that sweat had a lot of juice. juice means influence in the system that sweat was working in one tailor shop apparently got fired in that tailor shop for reasons we don't know but they transferred him to a different tailor shop and that's where my source worked with
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matt. when you get fired from a work center they don't transer you to an identical work center within the institution. it really doesn't happen. and i also learned -- this is amazing. i've never heard anything like this. the steam pipes that they had in the institution, they have cable tv in the inmate cells at clinton. i've heard of that before. but they would put the schedule for the heating system and the steam pipes right on the tv to tell the inmates when these would not be functional. so essentially, they gave the inmates a blueprint when the pipes wouldn't be active. and i think that was instrumental in helping them escape. >> how about that? now that he's at five points and will be spending -- he'll have this one hour a day for exercise and you use the word juice, will that even matter at this new place? >> no. >> will he even see other people other than guards? >> maybe medical staff,
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counselor, case manager. but he's not going to be mingling with any other inmates. he's going to be in complete isolation. and generally, in the new york system when somebody escapes, they put you in the special housing unit for up to five years. on the other hand they are going to need him to testify against joyce mitchell and possibly officer palmer. so if that's the case they may move him to yet another institution and they may give him just a little bit of leeway. maybe he won't spend five years sitting in the wholehole but he'll be hard timing it as we call it. it's like going from let's say, a four-star hotel to living in a hut somewhere in a dusty, deserted town. he's going to be isolated. no contact. you know at clinton i was told that there was inmates there that made moonshine. also known as hooch. at clinton, they called it clear and the inmates would buy it for
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$10 a bottle in a gatorade bottle. so david sweat i understand used to drink there. so no more getting high or drunk. that's all over for him. >> note to self, david sweat don't break out of a maximum security prison because if you thought your life was -- >> he's not getting out of there, brooke. >> no he's not. larry levine thank you so much. >> certainly. coming up next he drove off on a motorcycle. you're looking at the former prime minister of greece. he was off and away after he quit amid the crisis. what that means for your portfolios and a greek island vacation and why some folks are saying forget greece. we really should be talking about china. plus a deadly weekend in the city of chicago. seven people are dead due to the spike in gun violence over the holiday weekend but the victims include this a 7-year-old boy. we're live in chicago, next. it's so shiny. i know, mommy,
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bottom of the hour you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. the greek voters rejected europe's bailout offer. and this is the money picture. the prime minister hops on the motorcycle wife on the back bye-bye. he says negotiations will be easier without him. there you go. today, a big meeting about this new financial proposal. i want to begin our coverage with richard quest. >> reporter: the new prime minister is taking over from
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stathakis who was a thorn in the side of the talks and left with a parting shot saying that the european partners can start to find acceptable and from europe we've heard one minister after another say the situation has deteriorated over the past couple of weeks. the future talks will be difficult and tough and they are still expecting sizeable concessions from greece. anyone who thought that a 61% "no" vote would somehow give greece an easy pass is seriously mistaken. the banks remain closed and the ecb has not said whether it will provide more money to the greek banking system and until they do it's unlikely to open
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anytime soon. >> richard quest in athens thank you so much. so what now? what will the impact be on u.s. markets and why our friends at cnn money are saying we should be more concerned about china than greece. richard quest painted this whole picture of what is happening over there but when you read about greece it's like the size of ohio. and how it should be impacting us. you're saying the fear is the unknown. >> exactly. it's unfolding in slow motion. they are not paying off their bills. it's still unclear whether or not there could be a deal that is reached. having the very pugnacious prime minister ride off on a
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motorcycle with his wife that's probably a good thing because you may have somebody be more willing to play with germany and france and the big creditors that want more concessions. i think that's going to have to happen if there's going to be a favorable deal here. >> before i goet to china, vladimir putin, this whole russian posturing perhaps to help greece with this even -- he made the phone call to the pm with this actually realistic, is this about that gas pipeline that russia is trying through europe. >> i think that's really what it comes down to. politically it could be advantageous for russia to try and be friendly with greece because you have that pipeline going through turkey. i don't see how russia has the financial wherewithal to help greece out. this is a country still reeling with the sanctions and the huge drop in oil prices earlier this year that crippled russia's economy.
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>> china, this is a country with 1.4 billion people the world's second largest gdp, this is why we care in terms of geopolitical ramifications. when i was listening to you all talk about what was happening in china, i heard comparisons to 1999 and 2008. >> it's scary. the chinese government is doing everything that they can to prevent a bear market and preventing a fall like in 1999. people were betting aggressively in china on the companies there and it was starting to look like a bubble. if china's market collapses, that could be a big prop when you look at how china is a huge trading partner of not just the u.s. but europe. nobody wants to see china's economy ailing even though we are more frenemies than
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full-blown partners. >> paul, great stuff on thank you very much. in his typical rock star fashion, pope francis is greeting people in ecuador. ♪ ah, the popemobile. the catholic reader rode by and he's holding mass right now in ecuador and he chose to visit ecuador and local bifbolivia. next breaking news about convicted boston bomber dzhokhar
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tsarnaev. and president obama will deliver a message from the pentagon about isis. we'll take you there as it happens.
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all right. got some news into us here at cnn. dzhokhar tsarnaev would like a new trial. his attorney has filed a preliminary motion for this new trial. this is according to federal court documents. the attorneys say they will file more documents in the coming weeks outlining reasons requesting for a new trial. in the meantime he's been held at the super max prison in florence, colorado. frustration is boiling over in chicago after gun violence claimed seven lives. 41 others were hurt.
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the youngest victim, 7 years of age. amari brown was shot and killed by a bullet meant for his father a ranking gang member with a lengthy criminal record. at a vigil last night, his family said this. >> all of you be back out here next week on another corner filming the same thing from somebody else saying exactly what i'm saying. so i'm tired of doing this and tireless of talking about it. until we make a decision as a community and a city this is all that is going to happen. >> chicago police superintendent gary mccarthy stood in front of a table full of confiscated illegal weapons and spoke passionately about a broken system. >> i'm angry, i'm frustrated and i'm frustrated and angry that we're here again talking about another senseless murder. pick out the names, hadiya
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pendleton, this list goes on and on. we've got to stop. we can put another 10,000 police officers on the street. what will happen? maybe we'll arrest mr. brown 90 times and nothing will happen. maybe we'll take another 10,000 guns off the street and another 10,000 will fill up that illegal market the next day. i'm incredibly proud of the men and women of this department who, in spite of what i'm talking about, go out every single day and do what they do. we need some help here folks. we have to fix this broken system. >> mccarthy pointed out that since friday morning, police have recovered one illegal gun per hour across this city. compared to last year, the number of violent incidents is slightly down. if you're being looking for the same period in 2014 there were 41 shootings and 7 killed.
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to hear the superintendent say he's angry, when you talk about the 7-year-old how are people in his neighborhood responding to this? >> reporter: well i'm sure people are happy to hear the frustration coming from the superintendent but so many people are dealing with the day-to-day violence in their neighborhood. we saw police officers all over the area. the police officers know the community. in fact there is a surveillance camera right over the area where this young man was shot and you have to think about it a 7-year-old. who shouldn't be able to go outside and stand on a sidewalk and be able to see fireworks on the fourth of july but, unfortunately, amari brown was shot in the chest. so many people are talking about this in the chicago area. when you talk about the numbers, they are astounding. on june 1st 161 people shot and killed in the first 150 days of
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the year. so you can hear the frustration from officers and you know they are upset about this. as the superintendent talked about needing help from the community. >> if we don't hold criminals accountable, people don't go to jail for illegal guns. if they do not fear the criminal justice system. if they don't fear repurchase discussion from the gang that they belong to we're going to stay in the position that we're in. >> reporter: let's not forget that somebody called this city sharat and that's a certain term that people don't like throughout the city but as we talk to reverends throughout the community, there's no way to stop the gun violence the gang violence how do you get kids out of this system and involved in something like this. you hear the anger from the superintendent but they say when everybody is gone they are back to hearing gunfire every single
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night. >> wasn't that the point when we heard this boy's family member saying you all will be out here next weekend and next weekend and you mentioned the spike lee film but, again, when you look at the numbers compared to last year it's actually slightly better. >> it is slightly better and, yes, there is a spike lee film but people in the neighborhood have been calling this for quite some time. it's slightly better but down from what. when you hear about all of the murders happening, they say they want to stop the violence. the officers are in the neighborhood and they are right there where the shooting is. people don't care what is being done and that's why so many people say the system is broken when people can have guns and get arrested and be out in a short period of time. they have to tip the balance so they make sure people using guns serve more time or there's a way
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to suck the guns off the streets. >> just to see the table of guns one illegal gun an hour it's stunning. ryan young, thank you. coming up next president obama meeting right now with top advisers at the pentagon for an update on isis strategy. he's expected to deliver remarks in the next hour. we have our correspondent at the pentagon barbara starr, standing by for that. this is video just in from the pentagon from this big visit. you're watching cnn. your baby's chubby little hand latches onto your finger so hard it's like she's saying i love you. that's why aveeno's oat formula is designed for your baby's sensitive skin. aveeno®. naturally beautiful babies. benny's the oldest dog in the shelter. he needed help all day so i adopted him. when my back pain flared up, we both felt it. i tried tylenol but it was 6 pills a day. with aleve it's just two pills, all day. now i'm back! aleve. all day strong.
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can we talk about the team usa soccer match, the big win last night? i'm sure you've seen it. you've seen the replays of the record-breaking women's world cup final. let me list some of them for you. the u.s. now holds the most
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women world cup titles at three. carli lloyd broke the record for the quickest goal in history, just three minutes into the game. today, we're learning about a record of a different kind. u.s. tv ratings. so last night's game was the most watched soccer event in the u.s. ever men or women. let me go ahead and bring in brian stelter, our senior media correspondent with all of the numbers and figures. but i think what blows my mind is the fact that this beat, a world series and an nba final. >> that's right. soccer clearly here and here to stay. and these ratings show it. fox is about to announce the final numbers but it's going to be 25.4 million viewers. spanish language broadcast, another couple million. that beats all of the matches we talked about last year and even the final -- the u.s. wasn't in the final last year but the final had like 25 million.
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it also beats 1999. you know the famous match where the u.s. won 16 years ago. these ratings also beat that broadcast, which goes to show how prevalent and significant soccer has become in the u.s. these numbers really demonstrate that. >> it begs the question obviously why and in the lead-up to the match last night i had a couple of ladies on my show from previous major games and they were saying brooke they really think it's a social media presence that people feel connected with these players. >> right. >> and that brings them through to watch the game. to your point, all the way through the match. >> yeah. i thought viewership might start to fade towards the end of the match because the u.s. had a pretty clear lead other shows were starting to be on at 8:00 9:00 and viewership went on as more goals were being scored and in the end with the trophy. it goes along with the power of live tv and social media and facebook and plain old messages
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from friends will compel you to turn on the tv and we knew the characters going into the match so people wanted to tune in. on this age of on demand when everyone watch what they want to watch, these big events get bigger than ever because of social media. >> i totally agree. >> yes. >> brian stelter, thank you very much. now this. president obama has made a rare visit to the pentagon discussing here isis. let's get straight to the pentagon and to barbara starr. my question is we were just getting the video coming in of them sitting around the big tables there. is this a decision-making meeting or is this a status update? >> well all indications are that the president is here for a status update. don't expect any big decisions when he appears in the bridging room about an hour from now. at least not public decisions. but it's been a very interesting weekend for those air strikes in
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syria, especially about 18 air strikes around the city of raqqa, which is isis declared capital, a very heavily populated area. u.s. and coalition planes going in and pounding targets. it doesn't happen very often that we see air strikes on this scale directly in an isis stronghold. so the president will get an update about all of that and an update about isis in other areas besides iraq and syria. tunisia, libya, we have seen a good deal of activity there. recent attacks in tunisia and north africa is isis' new front in their effort to exert their influence and barbaric activity. maybe an update on the on -- maybe not breaking news on iraq and syria, part of the campaign that we have seen for so many months but a lot behind the scenes about what is going on and what the next steps may be. brooke? >> what will you -- when we take the president and he is speaking
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an hour from now, you've been covering this so closely. what will you be listening for in the president's message? >> well i think everyone is going to be listening for what you asked. any indications of any decisions about shifts in policy tone emphasis where the u.s. may be putting its focus next. are we just going to continue to see air strikes day after day and week after week? there's been a lot of problems as we've reported to get iraqi forces trained up and ready to go syrian forces rebel forces trained and equipped. this is all going very slowly much more slowly than the u.s. anticipated. so we're going to be looking for any slight indication of a change in tone or emphasis and, again, that new front of isis north africa in tunisia, in libya. this is where so many foreign fighters are now being recruited
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and sent into syria. is there going to be some new emphasis of going into those areas? brooke? >> we'll be taking it live. barbara starr, thank you so much from the pentagon. >> sure. hour two, you're watching cnn, i'm brooke baldwin at this moment. the nation could be witnessing an historic turning point in south carolina because lawmakers are debating whether a symbol that has divided the state for generations should be flying on capitol grounds. this is after the massacre inside of a charleston church. the lawmakers began debating a couple of hours ago. where does the debate and a possible vote stand, nick? >> reporter: right