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the situation room." watch us live or dvr the show. you don't want to miss a moment. thanks for watching us. i'm brianna keilar in "the situation room." erin burnett "out front" starts right now. breaking news a top al qaeda leader threatening the u.s. declaring war. we learn about planned terror attacks across the country. a rare event happening now. bill clinton and george w. bush in the same room talking politics side by side. we will go there live. a little girl found dead near boston. her identity a mystery. who is baby doe? let's go "out front." good evening. we begin with breaking news. a top al qaeda leader calling for attacks on the american hole
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homeland. that is the group the united states says is the terror group's most dangerous. this is coming as the fbi tonight reveals law enforcement thwarted several terror attacks targeting americans over the fourth of july weekend. they say from coast to coast. one major plot that we are learning about involved explosives on fourth of july parades in the new york/new jersey area. these terror attacks appear to be inspired by isis. were said to be enablded by militants overseas. we begin with jim sciutto "out front." jim, we have new calls, breaking news from the new leader of al qaeda in the arabian peninsula calling for attacks on the american homeland. >> reporter: he replaced the former leader killed last month in yemen. in this call he says that supporters should all of you must direct and gather your arrows and swords against the
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united states. keep in mind there's a bit of competition going on here. aqap losing some supporters to isis like isis, directing attacks against the u.s. including against the u.s. homeland. one thing i will tell you, erin that even though u.s. counter terror officials say a lone wolf attack inspired by isis may be the most likely attack in the u.s. they still say the most capable terror group in terms of more spectacular attacks is aqap. >> they have the training. they have the history. something obviously very important to watch tonight. new details, i know breaking on where the terror plots were based. frankly, just how close they came to actually executing these attacks over the weekend. >> reporter: that's right. we know that there were a number of arrests, more than ten. isis-related arrests in the last four weeks. some of the arrests tied to plots timed to the july 4th holiday weekend. you can say that dierzays or weeks before they were meant to take
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place, that's when law enforcement moved in. we have details about which ones they are talking about in particular. there was one cell where a man in new jersey and new york were working on bombs at parades. that was in early stages when that was disrupted. we're told there was more than one plot tied to the weekend that was disrupted. i will add one more detail. even though the weekend has passed, the july 4th holiday, the state of the alert as described to me is still very high as concerned as they were about the weekend, they are still reconcerned edvery concerned about the threat. >> until the end of ramadan. we are hours away from a new deadline for a nuclear deal with iran. john kerry today threatening to walk. >> we are not going to sit at the negotiating table forever. >> right now, according to a top democratic senator president obama says chances of a deal are
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bow below 50/50. nick this deal after months and months more than a year almost 18 months could it fall apart? >> reporter: it sounds like we're back where we began. secretary kerry saying the iranians need to make tough choices. i was speaking with a senior iranian official. he told me it is down to the u.s. to make tough choices, the u.s. is going to stop coercing and putting pressure on iran that iran and the u.s. their trust deficit is growing rather than diminishing some of the differences through the negotiations. the senior iranian official says that they think they can get a deal that they are willing to stay here however long it takes. their bottom line is it's not them that needs to shift. what you have here is seemingly entrenched positions. it's hard to imagine hearing what we're hearing from both
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sides at the moment on how they will bridge the gaps. >> incredible we are at this point. sitting there waiting after all this time this could fail. nick robertson, thank you very much. live from vee enhave a. fareed zakaria is "out front." >> i have felt that there was a deal to be had but it was going to be very tough to get to it because you had hardliners in washington and in taran. i felt in tehran they were worse. i think secretary kerry is actually right. it's up to iran to make some very tough choices. the fact that the differences aren't narrowing, that they persist after really what has been a year of negotiations suggests -- they know what the issues are at this point. >> sort of like they couldn't get past most important things. they kept putting them off. when you reach them you realize
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nothing has changed. they're the most important things. >> precisely. >> this is on a day a u.s. navy ship and a helicopter were targeted by an iranian laser. when does the united states walk? >> i think if the united states walks, it's actually in a pretty good position especially if it seems as though iran was rekals trant, iran was the obstacle. remember the status quo is not bad for the united states. iran's nuclear program is frozen. it is frozen with the agreement of the five permanent members of the security council, russia china, great britain plus germany. you have an extraordinary situation where you have the world's leading powers enforcing what is meant to be a temporary freeze of iran's program. that could go on for a while.
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it's iran that needs the deal. >> so now, it's interesting, our reporter filed a piece for this program the other night. it was a long scroll. iranians signed their names. they want the nuclear program. they were chanting death to america.- i have heard that. they were nice as they were doing it. this is par for the course in a sense to have that kind of behavior. does iran really want this? that's a crucial question in this deal. how bad do the people really want this deal if it means giving up that nuclear program that they say is so secret? >> i think overwhelmingly iranians want this deal because they want it because they want integration into the world. iran is a 5,000-year-old country that has traded with the world. it really does not like this idea of being this isolated pariah. but we will talk about iran the regime in iran which may represent 20%, 30% of iranian
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public opinion also obviously is of two minds. there are powerful interests within the regime that benefit from isolation, just the way that cuba's communist party benefitted. they have all the smuggling contracts. they have the state-owned enterprises. there are elements in iran that are suspicious of an opening to the world, because they know as iran would integrate into the world, their power would weaken. >> ta reed obama has a huge stake in this. this has become something that people perceive that he sees as crucial to his legacy. he said about how much they matter. 20 years from now, i will be around, god willing. if iran has a nuclear weapon it's my name on it. fair to say in addition to our national security interest i have a personal interest in locking this down. does he want this too much?
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>> you know i think that there is an element of him clearly that desperately wants to bring the iranians -- >> he wants to be the guy who do it. >> it's the only major country that is outside the world right now. north korea and cuba are tiny. to bring it in would be a big deal. give him credit. he is very serious about nuclear non-proliferation. this has been a core issue for him. he comes at it from the left rather than the right. but he is deadly serious about it. i think he was honest in that ininterview. he does not want to do anything that facilitates the path to -- >> that's his legacy. before we go breaking news on al qaeda declaring war on the u.s. homeland. they have the capability and the training to pull off major attacks that isis doesn't. how significant is that threat? >> i think it's difficult from the outside to downplay these things. people are working night and day to prevent it. i think hadthis is more blusdter.
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once we started tracking them the money, tracking the people it's much harder to do. you can inspire a lone wolf. it's very hard to do complicated, spectacular attacks when you have the u.s. government and other governments chasing you all the time. >> i hope that you are right. thank you so much. good to see you. donald trump telling cnn the head of the republican party told him to tone it down. the problem is no one can control donald trump. a live picture, george bush and bill cloninton on stage together side by side. they will talk about politics. it's an ironic day. the race between their brother and wife just got a heck of a lot nastier today. a major moment in history, the confederate flag on south carolina capitol grounds coming down. live on this day to south carolina.
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tonight,ed head of the republican party trying to reign in dobldnald trump. he warned him about his tone on immigration. trump has a different version of the events. >> he did say, you know if you could keep it down a little bit, but you can't change your personality and i understand that. it was really a nice call a congratulatory call. it was a short call. >> dana bash broke the news
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about the phone call between trump and priebus. i have been covering donald trump for a long time ten years. no one has told donald trump with a what to do. right? >> reporter: successfully, right? >> right. >> reporter: it hasn't worked out so well. look i mean i think the bottom line is that from my understanding of this phone call is that it was a wide ranging discussion. priebus was returning trump's phone call. they talk with pretty frequently. the whole idea that priebus was trying to get across was that they and he in particular has spent the last four years almost trying desperately to get back in good graces with the hispanic community that they did very very poorly with back in 2012. mitt romney got 27% of the
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hispanic vote. if you look back to george w. bush he had 44%. the hispanic community is growing, not shrinking in the country. that was the gist of what he was trying to get across to him. look, man, you are not helping here because rhetoric and approach is a big part of it, not just policy. >> interesting. of course, donald trump not backing off what he was saying at all. of course if you push trump too far, you don't know what he will do. he could lash out with those comments on steroids. >> reporter: that's exactly right. one of the things that i have been hearing in phone calls i have been making to republicans who are kind of watching this and -- holding their breath this trump debate is concern that wait a minute if we push him too far and make him feel like he is not part of the republican party, then who knows what would happen if he doesn't get the nomination and decides, i will
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go out on my own. could you have a third-party candidate. and what has happened is that might siphoning from the republicans. there's no indication at this point that that would happen. usa he certainly marches to his own drum. anything is possible. >> of course donald trump has taken a hit on the business side. today this one made me laugh. the faa actually had named navigational codes after trump. who knew? but they did. they were called donald trump and, you are fired. all right. putting aside the outrageousness of that situation, what is this about? >> reporter: yeah. i apparently the faa -- i didn't know this. who knew? they have these navigational codes. i guess they have to have fun over there. named after famous people in and around places that they have had an impact. this is in florida, in ohio
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apparently lebron has one. so it's not unusual. but the fact that they decided to do away with it let us know it existed in the first place. it's kind of unbelievable. >> dana thank you very much. i want to go straight now to our senior contributor, matt lewis, rich galan and ari fleischer. we are monitoring this. we will bring you in live as they start talking. george w. bush bill clinton talking to each other live. politics on the table. we will see whether it's fireworks or all love. we will go live as i said as it gets going. matt, let me start with you. aside from the navigational bombshell of the day from the faa, which i have to say who knew the head of the republican party calls trump, tells him to tone it down. they're afraid of him. >> yeah they are afraid of him.
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because he is toxic for the republican brand. you have people -- marco rubio want to appeal to his pan inpanics. he talks about his father who was a bartender, the journey is the essence of american dream. that's a conservative message about the american dream that would appeal to a lot of americans. very stark contrast to what donald trump is saying. the problem is you can't exclude trump from these debates. you can't be heavy handed. he's in second place. >> yes, he is. >> first place depending on the pole. a lot of americans a lot of base conservatives like donald trump right now. so it's a very delicate situation. >> right. ari, to the point matt is making about the american dream, you hear that with marco rubio. to a lot of people aside from the horrible comments that donald trump made in the past week or so, donald trump stood for the american dream. this was a guy who talked about making billions had the apprentice was giving people their shot at the american
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dream. that's part of the reason he appealed to people. >> a lot of american dream is making money. donald trump has done that. many people made money in america. that doesn't mean they should be the president of the united states. i don't think that donald trump has the temperament to be a good or effective president. i have to worry about who donald trump is. he was a democrat for much of his life. he is pro-choice. he is for tax hikes. he is a huge -- he was a considerabledonor to hillary clinton and harry reid. i'm not sure he's a conservative. he is an opportunist and entertainer. he could be damaging to the republican brand. >> what about the backfire? priebus telling him to tone it down. should very done it? >> i think that's what we would want our rnc chairman to do. he is a very qualified guy. he has had a really good run at the rnc. he knows his business.
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i think however the phone call happened whoever called who or who called who back is of no moment. the fact that america knows that the chairman of the republican national committee talked to trump and said this is not being helpful, that's about all he could do. you can't give him -- i think that was helpful for him to do that. i think it was helpful for the rnc to talk about the fact that the phone call happened. >> you know what's interesting, matt you mentioned debates many donald trump is going to make the cut. he will be on the first cut. he will be on the main stage with bush and walker and rubio and everybody else. some are saying gop leaders should kick him out. should they take that stand? should they say anybody can run for president and the voters are the ones who decide? >> absolutely not. you cannot exclude him. they said you have to pole at a certain percent sent. that used to keep the riffraff out. donald trump is now polling in
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second place or whatever, first place depending. so to retroactively change the rules i think would be horrible and send a horrible message. it would send a message thaltt the game is rigged the republican establishment doesn't care about the grass-roots conservatives who might be supporting donald trump. look this should be an opportunity for people like jeb bush or marco rubio. it's an opportunity for a moment. somebody has to take him on. >> ari, we just -- we saw the live picture and we will go live in a moment, you will be with us with bill clinton and george w. bush talking. they are talking about elections. maybe -- obviously, jeb bush will come up. jeb bush dismissed questions about donald trump. he tried to stay out of it. take a listen. >> dissatisfaction with politicians. do you think that's why donald
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trump is having success? >> we will see. >> when you hear donald trump, is he bads for the sfor the gop? >> i stated my views for donald trump. >> you are done? >> i'm through. i gave my views. >> is that smart? i'm done. i know he sounds frustrated with it. he wants it to go away. is it smart to not engage? >> i think it's a mistake. i do think the republicans have -- are duty bound to talk about who they are and correcting where donald trump is wrong. donald trump sends difficult signals for republicans, particularly in terms of growth and bringing new people into the party. what he said about people who come to america as immigrants is reprehensible. it should be corrected. i would have spoken out. matt's point about the debates is right. some smart republican is going to use the debates as a way to rise above trump and make him look small. i think that's going to be well received. 60% of republican primary voters have an unfavorable opinion about donald trump. trump has a unique appeal to the
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most anti-establishment fed up grass-roots. that's his appeal. he can't grow it. it's going to stay locked in at a small number. it does give an opportunity to a smart republican to rise above. >> thanks very much to all three of you. matt ari and rich. next let's look at this live picture. we will go there. they are now heating up presidents bill clinton and george w. bush side by side. if bill clinton put his arm down they would hold hands. bush under fire for charging $100,000 to speak to veterans wounded in the iraq war. more on that story coming up. 50 million people clin edcked on this image of a 4-year-old girl. she is dead. why has no one claimed her? who is responsible? the mystery coming up.
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george w. bush and bill clinton together on the stage talking politics. one the husband of a democratic presidential candidate, the other of a republican candidate. let's listen in. >> even those who are less likely to vote for you to -- one of the most unique relationships i had was with ted kennedy. a lot of it had to do with you. there was some issues we could agree on. a lot of issues we didn't agree on. i knew when to -- i tried to convince him on what issues. you have to know the people you are dealing with. republicans were generally easier for me to work with particularly when i was riding high. a little more of a challenge after '06. but it turns out that if you are
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polite kind considerate to people they are a lot more likely to listen to you. >> give an example of that on the international stage. we are watching the negotiations on the deal right now. talk about use of that persuasive style in an international setting. >> well by the time the issues get up to the president, there has been a lot of persuasiveness going on. that's what you have the secretary of state for and the national security council for. generally, the issues are pretty cooked. by the time you get there. and always -- i know cuba knows this. never negotiate principal to adviser unless you are the one providing the adviser. you always want somebody playing
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their hand and person has to go back and say i have to make sure bush okays it. i never got myself in a position where -- i have to get back to my principal. always go principal to principal if you are negotiating. never go you are the principal with a non-principal. i don't know if i confused that. do you understand? >> yeah. >> i'm kind of avoiding your question. >> okay. i will move on then if you would like me to. >> i spent -- i had 26 meetings with putin one on one. more or less i think. and every one of them started with how is your family? we met his little girls. dad loves to talk about his kids and his daughters. so i started off, how is your daughters doing?
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no matter how difficult the subject would be. the purpose was to try to create a human bridge a connection. then we would get to the issues at hand. >> so one of our scholars observes that obviously, you have an authentic friendship. you spent time together and enjoy it. i know you know some of the folks that are running for president. the question is what are your thoughts on the way that they the candidates can elevate the discourse so that it's foundational for governing and then tell a few stories from the campaign trail. you have been on it for many years, both of you. president bush you want to start? >> well you know i think the discourse generally is lowered by surrogates.
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the internet is a brutal place for political figures. there's a high degree of anonymity. there's no personal responsibility whatsoever. people say whatever they want to say. it kind of becomes currency. i suspect -- i know jeb and i'm confident secretary hillary will elevate the discourse. i can't attest to their surrogates. i can attest to this surrogate. i'm not going to be a surrogate. you know look i really -- i think american people expect to be some sharp elbows in a campaign. i think what really discourages them post-campaign, the inability to govern in a way that is congenial. and hopefully, that will change.
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it goes in cycles by the way. >> president clinton, then we will -- >> i may be naive. they say you get naive when you get long in the tooth. but, you know i think they ought to have these debates both in the republican primary and in the democratic primary. and i think that i expect it to be very vigorous in the primaries. whoever wins will have a hard debate. but they need to keep in mind that what we are trying to do is to take the advantages america has -- we talked about it. we're well positioned. but we haven't proved yet that we can solve the problem that's bedevilling the world. we can create jobs and have shared prosperity. we ought to show respect for the debate by trying to be as
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specific and clear as we can about the policy choices before us. we can trust the american people and enable the process by saying look it's not that simple. if it were simple we would have done it. these are the five things we think are most important. this is what i would do about them. i think the more we can keep on that and the less we can just do what i see and so much in the media today is this sort of culture of anger and resentment. we have to rise above anger to answers. rise to a real response. if you get this job, i can tell you, the next day it doesn't matter what was wrong with your opponent in the election. next day, you are on your own. you walk in there and you don't have somebody with you, whichever desk you pick.
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you show up for work and make decisions. that's all i hope. i hope we clarify for the american people that this is a big bunch of choices, they're not simple but we are -- we can do it. the quality of these young people proves -- and the assets and the system of freedom of choice we have proves it. but we have a lot of tough decisions to make. that's all i really care about besides i know who i would like to win. more important thing for america is that we know what the heck we're deciding on and we make a pretty good decision. >> so this is the -- we're back to graduating the scholars. what advice do you have for them as they return to their communities and obviously, you heard jake's call to action. what is your advice for them? >> don't watch a lot of tv. >> read? >> actually, act. do things.
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don't be afraid of failure. i'm not worried about this crowd. >> president clinton? >> i agree with that. you know the only thing i would say, whatever it is, that will work out. get up. i lost two elections. i was the youngest former governor in american history after the reagan landslide. i had one guy appointed to the cabinet walk across main street in little rock to avoid being seen shaking hands with me for fear that the guy that beat me would fire him. that was a humbling experience. i think you got to realize, there's no personal ambition you have which can be extinguished by anybody else. only you, by giving up your dreams can extinguish them. and if it doesn't work out exactly like you intended it
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will still take you some place interesting and you will make a difference. my advice is what george said don't be afraid to fail. but you probably will whether you are afraid to or not. it's scary. you just got to get up. the world belongs to tomorrow, not yesterday. don't give anybody else permission to take your life away. just keep living. keep giving. never make the perfect enemy the good. never think that what i'm doing is too little to make a difference. that's not true. that's not true. do something every day. some day for all of us it will be our last day. what will matter were all the steps we took along the way and what they amounted to. not the home run we hit on day x. i wish you well. >> president -- [ applause ]
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>> do you want to add to that? >> i was stuck on the some day may be your last day line. i thought that was pretty profound. >> this is maybe a good setup for this question. are scholars have said they were surprised by both of you, that you were not what they expected. they thought what they read -- >> one thought i couldn't read. >> the other one thought i could. >> how do you react to that with respect to the filter of the media and how to -- what that means for them as they try to present their true selves and have people understand who they are, know their heart and so forth? >> i don't know. i think we're both pretty
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confident people. and if people don't get us what we're all about, then you just got to keep moving on. i try not to worry about it. i can't tell you the number of people who have told me -- that say you are taller than i thought you were. >> i'm not sure that's exactly what they meant. >> 5'11" since i was 18. image is image. you have to be confident. if you have a set of believes you are willing to defend image doesn't matter. people say things about you all the time. if that's the criteria for success for you, then go into the fetal. >> i would also say, if you cover political news you have
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to realize that it's in the nature of things conflict is better news than concord. even though cooperation works better than conflict. if that's all you put on the evening news at night, would youyou would go broke. the nature of evening news will be to make people into two dimensional cartoons instead of three dimensional people. it's just the nature of the beast. i think -- you need to always keep your caution light burning in the back of your head on that. i also think the nature is -- suppose we were in a campaign against each other. he would havenarrative and i would have mine. we would try to convince you that our narrative was better than the other. that's okay. but the people covering the campaign, they develop a narrative, too. a story line.
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it's almost impossible for the real story to be the same as the story line. it's very hard for the american people to be well informed if the story lines swamp the real story. you just have to keep all that in mind as you try to be good citizens. and still show up. most important thing is showing up. >> we want some people to show up for the second class of scholars. we're launching the recruitment today. people can apply, those who are watching. for those who are pondering -- >> you have been listening live to george w. bush and bill clinton talking together. i joked at the beginning that they were close enough to hold hands. they did hold hands for a moment. ari is back with us. knows george w. bush better than anyone. i watched you live giving updates on the war like many americans.
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and paul who served in the clinton admission. you know bill clinton well. you are senior advisor to hillary clinton's super pack. you are watching your friends, your former bosses on stage there. what do you make of what he had to say, ari, when george w. bush said i know jeb and i'm sure secretary hillary, that's how he put it will elevate the discourse? >> well it goes back to our earlier segment when jeb bush was asked about donald trump and he didn't want to get into the issue with trump. jeb does not like to throw the elbows. jeb is much more of a policy person a serious minded governor. that's going to be an issue he will have to deal with in the campaign. as president bush said campaigns are about throwing elbows. the trick is you have to throw the right elbows in the right manner and not too tough. the american people get tired of it. they do understand there are
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differences between candidates. it's the articulate candidate who can do it well who can make the difference and establish who they are. >> paul what is your take on what they had to say? what is so captivating about watching these two talk is that they at one point probably hated each other. they are not really good friends. they are genuine friends. yet, they couldn't be on more opposite sides of this election now. >> let me tell you something, this will surprise ari. when i was banging on george w. bush -- history proved me right when i was a bush basher. bill clinton told me be careful, he has street smarts. >> i'm going to interrupt you. will come back to you. they are talking about their granddaughters. let's jump into that. >> i think that's the end of the program, i think. everybody, please join me in thanking the two grandfathers. >> we will get the sound bite
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turned around. i just missed it. continue your point as you were saying. paul was always right, proven right in every point he made against ari. continue your point. >> i was a big bush basher of the i don't make any apologies. surrogates are tougher than principals. i was happy to be a tough guy on president bush. even at the time even in the campaign even with his vice president al gore running against george w. bush i remember president clinton saying to me be careful, this guy has a lot of street smarts. don't under estimate him. president clinton has always loved the bush family ever since when he defeated president bush senior he was so gracious to him. he did not need to be. george h.w. bush was such a class act and had a profound impact on president clinton. he likes george w. bush and i think you saw it there. >> you did. >> it's maybe difficult for people to understand. but i do think there's something about sitting in that oval
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office and being one of four people alive and only 43 in our history who have had that responsible, responsibility it does give you respect for folks who have served them. >> both of you stay with me. we will take a pause. you will hear what they had to say about their granddaughters. i will not leave you hanging on that. as well as what george w. bush had to say about the losing the election election. those comments after this. if you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis.
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you are looking at live pictures. presidents bill clinton and sgornl george w. bush. they appeared for 20 minutes. you saw it live. they are friends. i'm joined by paul former adviser to bill clipnton now raising money for hillary clinton, ari, former press secretary for george w. bush. let me play -- they boekth talked about losing an election. one is about to lose another one for sure. maybe both. for sure one of them at the least. here is what george w. bush had
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to talk about losing. >> losing an election isn't fun. you lost one. i lost one. he lost one to him. yet they ended up having a friendship. you have to ask the question how does it happen? how did -- people think are bitter enemies in the political arena able to put aside victory and defeat. i think in dad's case that winning and losing an election was not the most central thing in his life. most central things in his life turned out to be his faith and his family. >> that says something about why so many americans now when you lock at polls, they love george h.w. bush. more more thanamericans approve of him than obama. the question i have,the is they love the two men on the stage, but do they want to see someone related to one of them becoming
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president in the oval office again? >> that's what primaries and the general election will test. hillary, if that's sable to winwin -- i think she will have a tough time. i think that's for the democrats to decide. same thing on the republican side. if the bush name is so bad and people want to have something that's different, that will become clear in the primary. jeb lass to jeb has to make his own case. escapable of doing that. the good news is the it's always up to the voters to decide. >> paul a lot of people say, they love bill clinton. with his wife there does seem to be a feeling of disenchantment. why else would bernie sanders be surge surging? >> it's wrong. it's not in the data. hillary's favorables are still
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sky high. it's no they are rejecting her. we want a contest. we do not want a coronation. bernie is speaking to a very powerful and wonderful populous liberal tradition. he will do well. he will win his share. he will get his share of voters. that's a good thing. i think it's wrong to conflate both hillary and jeb as if they have the same problem. they don't. there's a few places where hillary is going to have to disagree and distance herself from her husband. the defensive marriage act. mostly people think bill clinton was a good president. mostly people think george w. bush not such a good president. when you get to specifics, you saw jeb took five days to answer whether the iraq war was a good thing. >> maybe because of what you heard his brother say, how important family is. i want to play for you a moment to show the men's friendship. i joked about them holding
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hands. they did hold hands. they talked about their granddaughters. bush told him how amazing it would be to be a grandfather. >> last night, my granddaughter, 9 1/2 months old for the first time when i walked in she said there is your granddad and she pointed at me. that was worth more than anything anybody had said or done for me or paid me or anything else in a month of sundays. everything you said about it is true. >> last night my granddaughter spoke to me in mandarin. >> i guess they can't let the competitive nature ever go away. >> i guess that's right. that's the beauty about being a former president. they can let their hair down be individuals, not have the sharp elbows and share wonderful war
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stories. it's a great thing about america. i would like to see more of that of people in office. it does come when you are no longer a non-combatant. >> there's no way they would have acted like this before. now they are. they're like the nation's grandfather figures. i bet you there's people watching tonight looking at one or the other going, i used to hate it when that guy opened his mouth and now i like him. >> the truth is -- we beat each other's brains out but we're friends. i worked in campaigns all around the world, europe caribbean, middle east our distance between the two parties is not as great perhaps as in other countries. it's important for national unity. we're a polarized country right now. very important for national unity to see these two families with their complicated history with all the competition and the competition about to intensify. to see this moment where the two leaders of the two families can get along like that. >> i wonder when people have a moment they think it's wonderful
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and they wonder do they really want to have another one of those families in the oval office? that's the big question as you both say. >> i do. >> thanks so much to both of you. we will be right back.
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thank you for joining us. set your dvr to record "out front." we'll see you back here tomorrow night. and "ac 360" starts with andersen cooper right now. >> good evening. tonight part two of my interview with donald trump. a few of the highlights what he thinks of his fellow canned dachlts hearcanned -- candidates, why he is convince heed can ed he can get the latino vote despite his comments. there was a phone call between, trump, and his immigration comments came up. expressed concern about trump's tone and how it could affect the latino vote. donald trump characterizes the call saying it was congratulatory in nature. more reporting on that in a moment. first let's listen to what mr. trump told me on the subject of immigration. >> i what even think about