tv The Hunt With John Walsh CNN July 26, 2015 6:00pm-7:01pm PDT
the courage of child victims. it makes you madder. and you say, that girl deserves justice. back in 1981, i had the american dream. the beautiful wife, the house of the suburbs, and a beautiful 6-year-old son. and one day i went to work, kissed my son good-bye. never saw him again. in two weeks, i became the parent of a murdered child and i'll always be the parent of a murdered child. i still have the heart ache. i still have the rage. i waited years for justice. i know what it's like to be there waiting for some answers. and over those years, i learned how to do one thing really well and that's how to catch these
bastards and bring them back to justice. i've become a manhunter. i'm out there looking for bad guys. the stories appear to have been invented by hollywood. many of the cops involved said, this can't be true. it is too bizarre. too twisted. they thought this is some type of drug induced fantasy by these prostitut prostitutes, but this really happened.
worked vice for five years, prostitution detail. the prostitution problem was really gigantic at that time. i really got involved in it. i got to know a number of the girls. i wanted to on a daily basis. i walk up to the working girls, talk with them. have a conversation, tell them to move on. but you know if i catch you, you go to jail but if you need any help, you let me know. michelle was a lady that would work the area from mlk boulevard. >> i was living a different lifestyle at that time. i was a prostitute, feeding my drug addiction and walking the streets and selling my body to pay for my addiction.
target for predators. usually lots of them are runaways, nobody's going to look for them. predators know that. >> the other one was younger and more full bodied. when the car stopped, i'm thinking, i'm going to die. i'm chained to the bed. i was repeatedly raped. >> so many people can't wrap their heads around the fact that sex, even if you're a prostitute, is voluntary. it's consenting adults having sex for money. someone kidnapping a prostitute and raping them repeatedly is rape.
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>> more than a day, pushing 48 hours or so when my mother called me and say, hey, i think something's wrong. we knew that she was working herself on the streets. no one wants to see their sister doing that. we went out to some of the known areas where prostitutes might be. we just couldn't find my little sister. >> it was just a cycle.
i was punished by penetration with foreign objects. and there was a homemade elec y electric electricution device used on me. at this point, they broke my soul. and i don't know how many days later, the younger individual told me that i would let loose, that he would not kill me. i thought it was a sick head game. why would they spare my life?
i was put in the vehicle. we drove for approximately half an hour and then the door was opened up, the hood pulled off and i was pushed out of the vehicle. i arrived at my mom's home. she locks the door behind me. we call the police and we proceed on to emanuel hospital in portland, oregon. the detectives at the hospital worked on everything that i said. i was a known prostitute, feeding my drug addiction.
so i really couldn't expect them to believe me. but i did move forward with filing the report and the rape kit. >> she certainly didn't know where she had been brutalized. she didn't know what city. she didn't know the identity of the assailants. the police didn't have enough to even launch a detailed investigation and by the way, nothing else happened. >> i went in the patrol room and michelle came up to me and proceeded to tell me about all the things she had experienced in the last week. i had to think about that one an awful lot because the story was something that is hard to
believe. two years later in 1990, i was contacted by a washington county detective and he told me about a lady, she had been kidnapped, tied up, raped, put in chains, who escaped. so it's happened again. >> before i knew what was happening, i was in the back of the truck. the pillow case on my head and duct tape on my mouth. leave early go roam sleep in sleep out star gaze
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saw a young lady who was covered with cuts and bleeding. she told me that she had been kidnapped from portland. she wasn't even sure what city she was in. she asked me several times where we were, and i had to tell her we were in the city of hillsboro outside of portland. >> in 1990, i had just turned 17. i typically would wake up and go out to work the streets to get enough money to buy drugs to last me, i would try to get enough money that it would last all day. it was pretty early in the morning. like 2:00 or 3:00 in the morning. a little pickup truck pulled over. before i knew what was even happening, i was in the back of the truck chained to the bed of the truck and with a pillow case
on my head and duct tape on my mouth. i was so terrified. i just remember the guy that was in the back with me telling the other guy that if he wanted to turn to let him know, and they could pull over and let him switch. they left the pillow case on all night. it was just one rape after another. it was constant. and he said, don't bother screaming because nobody's going to hear you. my mind was just done. like, this is it.
when they took the pillow case off, i was terrified all over again. there's bars on the windows. what is this place? there were weapons laying around. guns. >> they had all the tools. all the things they needed to do that kidnapping. they were so well rehearsed, they are remorseless, violent, dangerous so-ciopaths. >> they tried to make me read literature about subservient women. i couldn't do it. i was just too hysterical for a
while. at one point, when he was leading me back from the bathroom, i saw a window that had no bars on it. that was my first bit of hope. like, oh, i can maybe get out. and then at one point, i saw them going in and out of the closet with big foam squares. i could hear them in there, hanging up the soundproofing. at that point, i just knew if i ever got in that closet, i might not ever be seen from or heard from again. i told them, you won. i'll read your book and i'll learn to be a good girl. i'll learn to be how you want me to be. they let one of my hands out of the chains so that i could turn
the pages. i was able to unbuckle my legs but my other hand was still chained. i picked up a gun and ran right across the hall, but they heard me. they were right behind me. one of the guys was yelling, get her. get her. she can't get away. >> most of the people that have viewed the videotape of the inside of the house report that it makes the hair on the back of their neck stand up.
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they were right behind me. one of the guys was yelling, get her, get her. she can't get away. i was bleeding all over. i was scared that they were literally right behind me. >> here's a vulnerable 17-year-old girl who was tough enough and had the presence of mind to say, i will stay alive and look for the chance. that's what saved her life. that's a pretty courageous and brave 17-year-old girl. >> while she was treated and stitched up, my sergeant and i
started taking photographs of her wounds. and giving a brief statement to what had occurred. at about 5:00 in the morning when we were all finished with the interviews and the medical treatment, we drove her to the location to point out the house where she believes she had been held at. >> we drove around and drove around for a while. it was difficult for me because when i ran out of the house, i never looked back. and finally, i saw the curtains coming out of the window. >> we haven't located the suspects and there have still been no movement at this house, but the rifle she used to break out the window was still laying outside on the ground.
for us, this was fantastic evidence to corroborate this crazy story she's telling us. detectives have now been pursuing a search warrant so that we can go into that house and locate specific items that she's told us about to help document and verify her side of the story. >> while they were conducting surveillance, awaiting the arrival of the swarnearch warra police officers observed the white dodge pickup truck come into the driveway. >> the first subject we interviewed was vance roberts. vance roberts was the registered owner of the truck and the house. apparently, he cut his arm and
had a very funny story to tell in my mind that this girl was trying to steal. that's why she jumped out the window and that's why he received his cut. he went to a local hospital to receive medical treatment for his arm. >> after we spoke to him, we decided to interview his brother. paul jackson. jackson states, you know, i was basically along for the ride. i don't know what happened. i thought he picked up a prostitute, they had a lot of sex and i was watching tv in the living room. completely unbelievable to me. >> it was very tough to not just want and throw them in jail right off the bat. but we wanted to make sure we did everything exactly per the letter of the law. they were told that they could not enter the house before we could get back with a signed warrant.
the truck they were driving also was going to remain on the property. but at the same time, we weren't in the position yet to make that arrest. so they were free to go about their way. they went next door and borrowed one of the neighbor's cars. the surveillance officers followed them down to a local restaurant where they were having dinner. about 5:00 or so, i got the warrant signed off by the judge and immediately did a search of the house. most of the people that have viewed the videotape of the nz of the house report that it makes the hair on the back of their neck stand up.
they found her personal possessions in a tupperware container exactly like andrea had described. >> once all that evidence was there, it was very easy for us to say, let's go get them and put them in jail. and that's when the surveillance said, they're at this restaurant having dinner. the officers immediately ran in there and put them under arrest.
i was surprised. >> i just kocouldn't believe it. it doesn't seem like either one of them would be involved in. >> robbers convinced this family, i'd never hurt anybody. they're street trash. they're bottom feeder girls. so what? >> i didn't find any family member that believed vance was guilty. they still don't believe he's guilty. >> we found a bunch of photographers with other women probably not at that house on their own free will. i am totally blind. and sometimes i struggle to sleep at night, and stay awake during the day.
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for formal interviews, the stories they were telling the officers were just so totally bogus. >> picking up a prostitute? giving them a ride is not a crime unless they're detained or against your will. >> you admit someone else was with you? >> my brother. >> who's that. >> paul. he's here tonight. >> okay. >> vance and paul were half brothers. quite close. paul jackson, he was living with his parents in arizona and came out there to visit. vance in his hillsboro home. >> two half brothers that have the same disrespect and anger and hate for women except their mother, really are mama's boys.
and they like to degrade women and they like to do it in a very sadistic way. >> tell me about your window that got broken. >> the girl jumped out the window. >> why did she jump out the window? >> i don't know. anytime she wanted to leave, she could have left. but i caught her stealing the money. she could have easily walked out the front door. >> the search warrant, we find a lot of items in your house. >> yeah.
>> we then found other photographs of other women who are probably not in that house on their own free will. >> we found some photographs in the house from people being tied up and bondage. >> old girlfriends. >> old girlfriends? >> yes. >> vance roberts is really classic. played the system. arroga arrogant. who are you going to believe? homeown homeowner, vance roberts, or the prostitute? they knew the game. they were extremely dangerous. >> the defendants charged with multiple counts of kidnapping, rape, and sodomy.
>> i don't know anything about the girls. >> i didn't see paul but vance had quite a few girlfriends. he had a way with women. he could pick them up real easy. he was quite a lady's man. >> bail was set at $80,000. which allowed a person to be released after posting just 10% or $8,000. >> they were bailed out within several days by their mom. she had flew out from arizona. so we knew where they were. >> and then working looking for
other unsolved abductions and then reached out to harry jackson. trying to locate a prostitute. a photograph said, i know this person. that's michelle. >> michaelle dierech. two guys, two years apart, did the same thing. >> when she initially told me the story two years ago, i said it's kind of a strange story. now to find out that it was real, i felt bad. >> when bruce sparks told me another victim had survived, i
felt stronger. i felt sane. i felt that maybe i could bring some resolve to this in my life. >> we then showed her a series of six photographs. she immediately identified vance roberts and paul jackson. she started actually crying. she says, no one believed me. that this had actually happened to me. she was so relieved somebody finally believed her and the two guys, we caught him. from that identification, we immediately drove back out to hillsboro and put them under arrest again. and this time, we asked the judge to increase their bail because we know we found two. we had more pictures to identify. there's more out there and need to find them or at least find out what happened to them. >> after hearing before one of our judges the bail was reduced
the a point where the mother could afford to post 10% and the brothers were let out and remained free pending their trial which was set for early 19 1991. >> when the trials were to start, vance roberts and paul jackson did not show up to court. the judge issued warrants for their arrest for failure to appear. they were on the run. i guarantee you right now, he is still out there victimizing other women. >> just a monster. he needs to be caught.
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now. i was like, what is wrong with our justice system they can't hold somebody behind bars when they've done something so heinous like this? i just couldn't believe i was really hearing this. >> they kept the trophies. the polaroids of the multiple, multiple girls. how many of those girls didn't make it back to the streets? these two guys may be serial killers and nobody knows it. >> one of the brothers for 16 years. in 2006, vance roberts walked into the washington county jail. said that he thought he had a warrant for his arrest and he wanted to turn himself in. i immediately went down there. i had to see this for myself. first thing i said, where you been the last 15 years?
he said, oh, i was living under the bridges in portland. but his hands, i looked at his fingers. there was no dirt. they weren't weathered. i don't believe you. he would not cooperate. wouldn't tell us where his brother was. he says, i think i want my day in court. >> vance roberts was counting on the fact that we wouldn't be able to put together a strong enough criminal case 16 years later. >> tried to victimize the two women. they may have committed a small crime by working on the street as a prostitute but never agreed to be kidnapped. they're still human beings. >> i felt like i was on trial. the defense attorney basically was saying i'm not a credible witness because i was a prostitute and a drug addict.
>> he was convicted. it was a quick verdict. >> on the day of sentencing, i said what i needed to say. >> you brutalized me. you terrorized me. you left me mentally and emotionally crippled beyond words or expression. it wasn't just me though. many other victims we may know about today. >> everybody knows about the victims, so i'd like to know where their body's at. >> he's serving a sentence of i believe 108 years in the state penitentiary. >> he rolled the dice. he lost.
>> after he was convicted, i felt vindicated he spends the rest of his life in a situation of subservience. just like for me and i felt like that was just. i publicly forgave him because i have to live with myself. and my moral compass is huge. and for me to move forward, i have to forgive him. >> i'm saddened, angry that paul
jackson is out. he's doing what he did. leopards don't change their spots on these type of guys. >> the other victims still haven't been identified. >> there are a number of people who believe that some of these other women met with a worse and different fate than andrea and michaelle and that's one of the things that investigators fear the most. >> paul jackson is victimizing other women and i don't think he'll let anyone testify this time. >> the biggest thing, maybe they escaped from it. we'd like to hear from them. they may have a piece of the puzzle to get this creature off the streets. >> paul jackson is just a
monster. he preys upon weak women and he takes what he wants when he wants it and he treats them like they're nothing and needs to be caught. >> paul jackson has a scar from having his appendix removed. he has a background in automotive work. if you see paul jackson or know his whereabouts, call 1-866-the-hunt or go to our web site at cnn.com/thehunt. you can remain anonymous. we'll pass your tip on to the proper authorities. if requested, we'll not reveal your name. >> shortly after he got into prison, the letters were 14 pages automatll the time and ne written a word about paul. never. has not written anything.
so i've asked him a couple times. he may be right here in oregon. vance always said, if you want to hide from the police, hide in plain sight. they never find you. on this episode of "death row stories," found brutally murdered and escaped convict is set to death. >> they should do away with it. >> but just hours before his execution, a few defense team raises doubts about his guilt. >> you let the evidence lead you to a suspect. what they did in this case was exactly the opposite. evidence destruction, evidence tampering. my client was framed. there's a body on the water.