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ee it going very far without that. with that who knows? >> who knows. that's why we love politics. thanks very much for that excellent discussion. remember you can always follow us on twitter. please tweet me @wolfblitzer. erin burnett "out front" starts right now. "out front" tonight president obama blasting republican presidential candidates calling donald trump out by why is he going out of his way to take on republicans. mike huckabee not backing down from his charge the iran nuke deal would march israelis to the doors of the oven. did he go too far? the chief strategist is out front tonight. and two teens gone fishing now missing at sea. the massive search at this hour expanding hundreds of miles to the north. are they still alive? let's go "out front."
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good evening. i'm kate baldwin in for erin burnett. lashing out, president obama diving into the gop war of words and calling out donald trump. in fact when asked a question about mike huckabee the president seemed to go out of his way to turn his remarks to trump a number of times. >> when you look at what's happening with mr. trump, when he has made some of the remarks that for example challenge the heroism of mr. mccain, somebody who endured torture and conducted himself with exemplary patriotism the republican party is shocked. >> the latest cnn poll makes it clear, though that trump's remarks didn't dent his popularity. this was the first poll conducted since trump ignited a firestorm of criticism by questioning senator john mccain's status as a war hero.
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now trump leads the gop field with 18% followed by jeb bush at 15% and scott walker at 10%. and you see the rest of the field of candidates in single digits. jim acosta is "out front" traveling with president obama. it's good to see you. until now president obama hasn't really mentioned trump by name at all. i mean it's pretty significant that he's weighing in right now, right? >> reporter: that's right. it has been almost white house policy to stay clear of the 2016 race especially donald trump. but here in ethiopia president obama jumped right in today, slammed mike huckabee for predicting the iran nuclear deal would lead to a holocaust saying the former arkansas governor was trying to outdo the more sensational donald trump. and then the president wasn't after donald trump for saying john mccain was not a war hero despite being a former p.o.w.
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and accused the entire gop field of being involved in a race to the bottom. here is more of what the president had to say. >> and i recognize when outrageous statements are made about me the statements about mr. mccain were pretty quiet. we're creating a culture not conducive to good policy or good politic. the american people deserve better. >> reporter: rarely mentions trump by name and the president has tangled with trump before. remember over the gop's past claims president obama was not born in the u.s. they feel it adds fuel to the fire. >> there must be a change in that strategy at the moment.
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jim, it's great to see you. thank you so much. trump is known for making big promises and bold claims. behind that rhetoric his positions have changed and dramatically in some circumstances. the big question, do voters care? tom foreman is out front. >> reporter: he has big money, a big mouth -- >> i wonder if the mexican government sent them over here. >> reporter: and big numbers. he leads the poll with 52% of republicans saying they want donald trump to stay in the race. only 33% want him out despite attacks from republican opponents. >> i don't want to be associated with the vitriol he's spewing these days. >> reporter: fans like the way he tells it like it is. trump's beliefs are hard to pin down. >> i know you're opposed to abortion. >> right. i'm pro-choice. >> you're pro-choice or pro-life? >> i'm pro-life. >> reporter: on health care for example, trump in 1999.
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>> i'm liberal when it comes to health care. i believe in universal health care. >> reporter: the next year he pushed the idea of government funding writing we need as a nation to re-examine the single payer plan. but now -- >> we have a disaster called the big lie, obamacare. >> reporter: on illegal immigration, the turns took less time. trump in mid-june. >> i will build a great, great wall on our southern border and i will have mexico pay for that wall. >> reporter: trump by june's end. >> you have to give them a path and you have to make it possible for them to succeed. >> reporter: and now? >> you're in favor of a wall? >> oh, yeah in certain sections you have to have a wall. absolutely. >> reporter: sometimes the apparent contradictions may be a matter of nuance. other times, listen to trump on possible democratic nominee hillary clinton in 2007. >> and i think hillary is very,
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very capable. >> reporter: and now? >> look easily she's the worst secretary of state in the history of our country. >> reporter: even his party affiliation is hard to pin down. back in the '90s trump was a republican. then he jumped to the reform party. then he shifted again. >> you'd be shocked if i said that in many cases i probably identify more as a democrat. >> reporter: and now -- >> look i'm a republican. i'm a conservative. >> reporter: he might sum it all up in a phrase. >> at least i'm consistent. >> reporter: voters who love trump insist he is consistent. he consistently shares the broad public contempt for washington, and he consistently says plainly what he thinks with little worry about fallout. but that is precisely the trait that makes it easy to find inconsistencies that in the long run can tear even a popular candidate to pieces. kate? >> tearing that popular candidate to pieces is
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definitely not happened yet when you look at the latest polls. great to lay it out, though. thanks so much tom. "out front" tonight andy carr chief of staff under president george w. bush is supporting jeb bush for president, and jeffrey who worked in the white house is contributing editor to "the american spectator." andy you just heard tom foreman did a great job of kind of laying out these consistent inconsistencies. donald trump has changed his position on multiple issues and we know that flip-flopping is generally a problem for candidates running for president. yet trump still leads the republican field. why do you think? >> first of all, we're in the celebrity phase of the campaign where people are looking to basically become stars so that you can learn more about them and pay more attention. in one sense donald trump is helping the republican party get more attention in the primary. it's not the same thing as, is he qualified to be president, to even have the nomination of the republican party?
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so this is a celebrity face. i don't put a lot of account into what's happening in the polls right now. i think jeb bush will be strong steady and consistent in his leadership and will make a big difference when he gets the republican nomination and will be president of the united states. >> you just saw that poll -- and i want to put that back up jeffrey. kind of to andy's point, the latest cnn/roc poll shows 40% of voters think jeb bush will eventually become the republican nominee. you see trump there only at 18% in this part of the poll. the majority of gop voters still want trump to stay in the race. >> i think the 53% that feel they're not represented in washington that they just don't like what's going on there at all. they're unhappy with the republican establishment, mr. bush is the representative of all of that or one of them at
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least. that figure is very key here and these are a very determined group of people. i think donald trump is right. there is a movement out there. and i think that's going to play a real role in all of this. >> especially to that. he said he thinks it's bigger than them. it's a movement -- he said that to jake tapper on sunday. so trump has also hinted with that in mind jeffrey, trump hinted last week he's not ruling out launching a third party run. he's walked it back a bit. i never know where he stands on an issue from day-to-day but today the head of the rnc, he said he thinks the republican candidates should all pledge to not run as third party candidates. do you think the republican establishment is afraid of donald trump jeffrey? >> yeah. yes, i do. i'll tell you something they should be afraid of here. one of the reasons governor romney was not president romney is the base of the republican party didn't turn out in the kind of numbers they needed to elect governor romney. i think we have to be very careful here.
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the party has to be very careful that if they select someone other than mr. trump who is seen to represent the party establishment that once again, we'll find a republican party on the losing end of the election ballots because the base just simply won't turn out for him. >> so andy real quick, to that point, how is jeb bush going to ignite that kind of enthusiasm we're seeing for donald trump right now, or do you think -- he needs to light a fire somewhere. are they just kind of pacing themselves treating it as a marathon not a sprint? >> oh, this is definitely a marathon and not a sprint. we haven't even had the real first debate yet and we don't know how the first debate will go because of the debate about the participation in the debate. so we're a long way from establishing who the real front-runner in the party is. i think jeb bush is the front-runner. he's the most stable. he's the most proven in terms of being able to lead. but i think the party has got to come together. i don't want to see a third-party candidate.
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that's basically handing success to the democrats if we have a third-party candidate coming from the right. i can't imagine donald trump would want that to happen for the country. i suspect he will be a candidate until he's no longer viable to be a candidate. i think that will come sooner rather than later. but jeb has the staying power. jeb is also reflecting the maturity of being a president. it's one thing to be a bomb tosser or a populist to motivate. we don't want a president driven by emotion but is driven by doing what is thoughtfully right for the country and having the courage not only to be popular but the courage to be lonely in making the tough decision that count. >> they're going to be tested in that first debate for sure. if you'll allow me i want to switch gears for a moment. the national archives just released these never-before-seen photos from september 11. and we see you in a lot of these photographs with president bush vice president cheney with the national security team.
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what goes through your mind when you see these images from that horrific day and the aftermath thereafter? >> well the photographs are a wonderful walk down memory lane but the truth is what i don't want people to forget is what happened that day, and the innocent victims, the unbelievable torture that took place by terrorists attacking this country, and then the heroic response from the first responders who many of them became victims. that's what we said we would never forget and we don't want it to happen again. these photographs are a good memory for what took place that day, and i want people to focus on what it means to make sure that day never happens again. so if the photographs do that, that's great. if it's just a trip for andy cog down memory lane with the people he respects and works with and watched do a remarkable job, that's great, too. it's really about let's not forget the sacrifices that were made that day, the innocent
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victims that day, and the need to continue to have strong leadership that will protect america. president george w. bush and vice president dick cheney did a fabulous job of rising to the responsibility of keeping their unbelievably challenging oath to protect america. >> you can really see the strain throughout those photos. i was struck by seeing the strain on vice president cheney's face as well as president bush's face throughout those photos. thank you both. it's great to see you. thanks guys. mike huckabee says the iran nuke deal will march israelis in his words, to the door of the oven. huckabee is not backing down despite heavy criticism. the louisiana movie shooter just before the attack. investigators are revealing the last notes he left behind. and a massive search at sea for two teenagers only the capsized fishing boat was found. ahead, the coast guard says -- why the coast guard says they could still be alive.
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so mike huckabee is refusing to back down tonight. the republican presidential candidate evoke the holocaust when he criticized president obama and the iran nuclear deal. listen. >> this president's foreign policy is the most reckless in american history.
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he's so naive he would trust the iranians and take the israelis and basically march them to the door of the oven. >> and tonight he was given the opportunity again to apologize and he refused. >> i will not apologize and i will not recant because the word holocaust was invoked by the iranian government. they used that very word. >> president obama even weighed in from ooetethiopia. >> the particular comments of mr. huckabee are, i think, part of just a general pattern that we've seen that is -- would be considered ridiculous if it weren't so sad. >> "out front" in washington elise, president obama is not the only one blasting governor huckabee here. huckabee is getting criticism from the left and the right.
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>> pretty wildly criticized kate. jewish groups anti-semitism groups like the anti-defamation league, simon wiedenthal said the remarks were offensive and out of line and not surprisingly democratic presidential candidates are getting in on that governor of maryland martin o'malley former secretary of state hillary clinton saying that the remarks are out of line. even republicans, some of them in the 2016 field, are coming out against these remarks. in fact there's one area where hillary clinton and jeb bush agree. take a listen. >> comments like these are offensive and they have no place in our political dialogue. i am -- i'm disappointed and really offended personally. >> the use of that kind of language is just wrong. this is not the way we're going to win elections.
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that's not how we're going to solve problems. it's an unfortunate remark. i'm not quite sure why he felt compelled to say it. >> now scott walker kind of walked a fine line there saying that you wouldn't hear him use that language and kind of suggesting the comments speak for themselves but not coming out and criticizing huckabee's point. but the legal counsel for trump actually said that huckabee is totally right and said that, you know you need to use these strong words because you want a strong america and that's very much in line with the idea trump has been using. but it just goes to what president obama went on to say when he was in ethiopia there's this climate where people are trying to say outrageous things to get attention. and so whether these remarks -- clearly there's a lot of opposition to this iran deal but i think what the administration is trying to do is have a more civil discourse and not let those types of sensational comments get in the
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way of a more intelligent and thoughtful debate. >> the more you shout, the more attention you're getting. that seems to be the way it is now. elise, thank you so much. so right now the chief strategist and communications director for republican national committee joining us. shawn, thank you for being here. is governor huckabee crossing a line here? he is still not apologizing tonight. >> i think there's widespread concern about this iran agreement or proposal rather. i'm not here to decide what comments are in or out. that's for each candidate. if the governor stands by hem, that's his call. our job at the rnc is not to get in the middle of policy discussions. >> but in a political debate more broadly, is it ever appropriate to evoke the holocaust? what does the rnc think about that sean? >> i think governor huckabee was referring to comments that the ayatollah made about what they
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wanted -- what iran wants to do to israel. that is a fact. the ayatollah has used that word and used it with respect to what iran wants to do with israel. and i think it's up to governor huckabee to talk about what he exactly meant on that. >> you say it's not your position to decide what comments are right, what comments are wrong, what comments are in what comments are out. as chairman reince said earlier you're not in the job of calling balls and strikes. your job is not to call balls and strikes with one candidate, but that seems what you did with another candidate when it comes to donald trump in questioning john mccain's war hero status. so what is the difference then here sean? >> kate there's a huge difference. john mccain was our nominee in 2008. we got a lot of calls and questions about whether or not we stood by his record as a war hero. i think that's a vastly different question than how to describe a particular policy position. >> in your statement you said there's no place in our policy
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to disparage those who have served honorably. i don't think we want to get into comparing what leads the rnc to speak on. they both seem relatively important things don't you think? what's the trepidation in talking about this? >> again, we're not here to be the referee. i think clearly governor huckabee was using words and phrases the ayatollah himself used to describe what iran would do in israel. it is not for me or for the rnc to decide what is an appropriate use -- when that's appropriate or not. it's not like the governor was disparaging the holocaust. he was clearly showing a level of respect and how important this deal was and why his opposition was -- or why he believes we need to oppose this deal. again, it is not for me to get into each candidate and say that was appropriate. this wasn't appropriate. i think that we can understand where governor huckabee was
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coming from and what he was trying to communicate. but, again, we're not going to sit here night after night and decide, ted cruz said this chris christie said this rand paul said this is this right or wrong? at the end of the day there's one thing to have different policy views or different discussions on experience and then what reince and myself talked about, the name calling among republicans to each other goes to. >> so we're talking about -- you talk about donald trump and those remarks he made and john mccain's war hero status. there's no question right now when you look at the most recent polls that cnn put out he will be on the debate stage next month. you put out an interesting piece earlier today saying you have worked to try to improve the debates. the candidates themselves sean are criticizing the process for limiting the number of people who can make it on the main stage. they say it only benefits those who yell the loudest, are celebrities, or have name i.d. it's only july. do they have a point?
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>> the debates started in may 2011 last cycle. it's a little different, comparing apples to oranges. at the end of the day the reality is the greatest number of people ever to appear for either party is ten. both cnn and fox are matching that and then going the extra step of saying there are other really qualified candidates or, if you will that make up this group of top 16 and we want to make sure we're inclusive and get them to have a voice. i get it's not perfect. nobody is saying it's perfect. i'll be the first to admit that and the chairman would be the second one. at the end of the day i commend cnn and fox for finding a way to give a voice to everybody who is in the top 16. because that's what this is all about. and i would say that for some of these candidates if you look at the historical precedent of saying you have to be at a minimum of 1% right now those people are getting thaotherwise might have denied in previous cycles. >> sean thank you so much. it's going to be interesting, to say the very least. great to see you. new surveillance video of
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the gunman in the louisiana movie theater shooting leaving his hotel room and then there's a journal that police just found noting exactly where he would strike. and two florida teens are missing at sea days after heading out on a fishing trip. the search area is getting bigger tonight as bad weather rolls in.
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a louisiana gunman's final hours before he opened fire at a lafayette theater killing two people. surveillance video from the motel where john houser was staying shows the gunman at the front desk. you see it there. he was also seen walking the hallways. and then minutes before the movie would start, houser is seen leaving the motel. also today funerals for the two women killed in the attack. ryan nobles is out front live in lafayette. ryan what more did police really uncover now in houser's hotel room? >> reporter: kate a lot has happened here today in lafayette. this building behind me no longer an active crime scene. the owners have control of it. police tell us they hope to open very soon and the investigation
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into the attack that happened here continues. a chilling picture is emerging about the man who opened fire in the grand theater in lafayette, louisiana. surveillance footage obtained by cbs news shows the shooter at his motel just moments before he left to attend the 7:00 showing of the movie "train wreck." it was there he sat in the back row, waited some 20 minutes until the previews ended. that's when he began shooting killing two women and wounding nine others. >> this man was certainly of a sound mind because, you know what he wrote it down. he said he's coming to this movie theater at 7:15 on thursday night. >> reporter: it was in a room in this motel 6 just a few miles from the theater where houser documented his planned attack in a secret diary. he left his hotel room trashed. what still isn't clear, why he chose lafayette. a town one study recently listed as one of the happiest places in america. >> i think we likely will never
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get a real firm answer to that question. >> reporter: houser was a drifter. he lived in georgia. last year was evicted from a house in alabama just over the georgia state line. it was at a pawnshop in alabama where he legally bought the .40 caliber pistol he used in the attack. his time in lafayette was short, and not much is known about what he was up to. >> we know he was trying to drum up some support for a business he would like to have open. we know he was at the end of his rope financially. >> reporter: investigators have finished processing the crime scene but are still digging into houser's past. >> we're still interviewing people, still sending officers out to different locations. >> reporter: as for the community of lafayette residents are remembering the two lives lost and hoping to heal from a tragedy that changed their town forever. >> their victims will have brought a community together as one. >> reporter: and some good news to report tonight about those victims. another victim released from the
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hospital today. that means only two victims are left to recover in the hospital. remember kate at one point there were nine people wounded and hospitalized in this attack. kate? >> some good news there. brian, thank you. "out front" with us now tony bourque, the lead pastor of water's edge church where john houser went for help and food just days before the shooting. tony houser comes to your church. he spends over an hour there. what was he doing there? what was he like? >> well when he came to our church we have a food pantry every thursday that's open from 10:00 in the morning until 2:00 in the afternoon. and we probably feed between 500 to 600 people every week on that day, and he came to ourlooking for food. while he was there, he decided to sit down and stay for a while, and he just began to cry. and he cried a lot and he kept telling our food pantry volunteers he was severely depressed and he kept asking for
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prayer. >> he also has a history of going off on rants. we've heard that from people who knew him in the past. it seems he did just that to some of your volunteers. what was he saying? >> well there was a time when he was crying a lot and asking for prayer and then my food pantry director kelly, told me that he stopped doing that for a little while. he stood up and was expressing his dislike for the lgbt and one of our volunteers said we don't say those things at our church and to sit down. and he did. he sat down and got quiet. he began to cry again and began to ask for more prayer after that. >> looking back this strange encounter must take on an absolutely different meaning for you now. >> it does. i heard a teacher by the name of rob bell last week something that helped me out a lot. there's no intellectual category for tragedies and suffering like this. and i tried to tell our volunteers because they were
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really beating themselves up after this thinking they maybe could have said more they could have done more and their hearts were hurting for the victims, jillian and mayci. i told them there's no intellectual category for something like this. it's just too big for our mind. they did all that they could do and they didn't know what he was planning on doing in lafayette. >> that's for sure. tony thanks for your time. >> thank you. >> of course. also joining me now is a forensic psychologist. buzz thank you for coming in. you jufs heard from the pastor there. it gives you a little window in if you can, into the mind of this killer days before the attack. he goes in he's asking for forgiveness. he's asking for prayer. he's crying. he's depressed. and he's also going on rants. really homophobic rants. what does that tell you? was that a cry for help? >> well if you keep in mind you're trying to make logic and rationale from a mind that's skewed and there's mental illness, there's probably
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personality disorder. trying to make sense of a senseless act. what i think it was planned. this man had anger. that anger was pervasive. this attack was planned. and, honestly he had homosexual rants and blame, but the anger was pervasive and ultimately that's what happens to people who have anger issues. many times they seek to explain their viewpoints but then they seek agreement and they seek relationships with others who agree with them. finding none of that from the church he eventually left. but i think he was going to the church to pray since he felt he was doing god's work. i think he went to pray because he knew that his life might be taken and, again, i don't think he intended on committing suicide. i think his goal his drive was to kill to commit mass murder to make revenge on people that he felt were different from himself. but he also knew that it might jeopardize his own life.
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and with a personality such as his, narcissistic and anti-social traits it was all about him. and so i think doing god's work in his skewed mind he thought i'm going to the church and i'm going to have them pray so i can survive this. >> and they still are searching for a motive. and the more we learn, the more and more i think we may never get a firm answer of why. it seems impossible. thank you so much for coming in. we appreciate it. "out front" next a massive search area about the size of indiana for two teens who went out fishing and never returned. why searchers, though say they could still be alive. and a woman's frantic call to 911. >> he opened the door and said live or die. i wrestled him. he was going to kill me. >> did she lead police to a serial killer? technology empowers us to achieve more. it pushes us to go further. special olympics has almost five million athletes
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tonight rescuers are expanding their search for two teenagers missing at sea. 14-year-old austin stephanos and
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perry cohen. they were last seen friday buying fuel. their 19-foot boat capsized off the coast of florida. it was discovered sunday. the teens were nowhere in sight. in the warm water you can survive for quite a few days. four to five days in these conditions. >> reporter: more than 72 hours after best friends, perry cohen and austin stephanos, set off for a day of fishing. the two 14-year-olds remain missing. the two boys like a lot of kids who grow up by an ocean, the water is their backyard. last friday what was to be a few hours on that water turned into something else. a parent's worst fear. >> as a mother the worst feeling ever not knowing where your child is. >> reporter: the frantic search began on the sea and on the air. >> our search area is about 33
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500 square land miles which is approximately the size of maine. >> reporter: the fears of family and friends, among them football legend joe namath. >> we keep on praying. it's hard. it's so hard. we've got to believe in their wherewithal. >> reporter: sunday morning the coast guard spotted their boat overturned. one life jacket was found in the water nearby but there was no sign of the two teens. >> yeah just confirmed nobody is onboard. >> reporter: according to the coast guard the capsized boat was found far offshore, more than 70 miles from where the boys had started from. this is the fuel dock where the boys filled up before they headed off. turns out they bought about $120 worth of fuel. the manager says they only had about $100 or just over. he said that's okay. you can pay me the rest next time. you can imagine how those words
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haunt him now. sunday night friends, neighbors, and strangers gathered in their hometown of jupiter to pray for the pair's safe return. they are posting this flyer and telling people all along the florida coast to look out for things like life jackets, a cooler anything. most of all, looking for a miracle. and the families are continuing the very difficult, the very painful wait here and the important thing to remember here kate is that it is not just the families who are hopeful. the coast guard as well says hey, there is reason to be hopeful. it may be three days but there is still good reason to be optimistic at least keep those prayers and good thoughts coming their way. that's what they ask. kate? >> as long as they can stay hopeful. martin thank you so much. and even martin the coast guard said four to five days someone could survive in those waters because the water is warm right
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now. by midnight tonight, crews say they will have covered over 27,000 square miles. this is a complicated search though. crews saying that the waves are making it difficult to spot the two teens. but that is not stopping what officials are calling an aggressive search still continuing at this hour. "out front" now to police chief chrystistopher els assisting the coast guard with the church. chief, thank you so much for coming in. the search has been compared over and over again. i've heard it to finding a needle in a haystack. at this hour the search area is getting even larger. how confident are you that you-all are looking in the right area at this point? >> well extremely confident. we've certainly been in touch with the united states coast guard on a regular basis and other agencies assisting, official wildlife commission. the united states coast guard does search and rescue and they have done this for a long time
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obviously, created a model and basically mapped out where they believe the boat and the boys could be found, the high probability area. obviously yesterday afternoon they found the boat and we're confident with their assets on scene we hope and are praying the two boys are found soon and brought home. >> we're hearing from everyone involved really that they're still hopeful, still optimistic. what have you all found -- what was found on the boat or not, if you will that suggests the teens are still alive, that gives you that hope? >> well these boys certainly have grown up around water. florida is surrounded by water. these boys and their families live on the water. they spent a lot of time -- they're experienced boaters and experienced as 14-year-olds can be. they went out for a day of fishing, something they had done numerous times before. obviously at this point we're all at a loss to explain exactly what happened. the boat has been located. the coast guard and we are
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hopeful in following up every lead to bring them home safely. we don't know at this point what occurred. we hope very soon we'll know that when the boys are brought back. >> first and foremost finding the sweet faces and getting them back to their families. chief, thank you so much. >> thank you. "out front" next a woman fights back against her attacker. did she help police in doing that track down a serial killer? >> i knew he was there to kill me. i could tell that he had already done something because he said that he was going to prison for a long time. >> and on a much much lighter note, jeanne moos and the case of one curious orangutan. bring us your aching and sleep deprived. bring us those who want to feel well
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murders really across the country. >> reporter: a west virginia woman says she narrowly escaped with her life after meeting 45-year-old neil falls. >> he was saying you are going to be quiet. i'm going to call the orders. >> reporter: the woman, heather, met falls after he entered her escort add on she says he became aggressive within minutes wrapping his hands on her throat. >> when he laid the gun done to get the rake out of my hands. i shot him. >> reporter: moments later she was running from her charleston home chasing down a nab who called 911. >> there is a lady in the alley here she is saying that some guy tried to rape her. she had -- [ indiscernible ] >> reporter: investigators say falls may be a serial killer after finding an arsenal of weapons described as a kill kit
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in his suburu. he also had a list of ten women with names, ages and contact information. all of them escorts. at least nine of them in west virginia. none appear to have met the suspect. >> all those things together lead to us believe mr. falls has been involved in similar crimes. >> reporter: investigators are looking at falls' past and possible connections to cases in nevada oregon and illinois. authorities tell cnn an item found in his car is believed to be linked to evidence discovered on several dismembered bodies in las vegas, back in 2005. where falls lived at the time. the remains found in trash bags all of them escorts. one of the cases under scrutiny lindsay marie harris whose dismembered legs were recovered in illinois three weeks after she went missing. >> very creepy, tight-lipped. somebody who doesn't want to be exposed. >> reporter: falls' former landlord says she had him evict aid year after he moved in and
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describes his behavior as odd. while sources tell cnn that no evidence has yet pointed to a direct link heather believes she stopped falls from hurting others. >> do you feel like you saved other women's lives? >> i know i did. >> reporter: cnn reached out to some one who claimed to be the sister of neil falls. she told us she wants nothing to do with her brother and told us the family would not be putting out a statement. >> i cannot believe the story. amazing how it all came about. >> she is lucky to have made a smooth quick move when she did. >> she was injured in the attack itself. forest thank you so much. amazing. >> out front next jeanne moos with a sweet moment between an orangutan and an expectant mother.
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so his keepers say this orangutan has always been quite the curious george and now an online star as well. here's jeanne moos. >> reporter: consider this pregnant. yes a orangutan at the zoo in england kissing a pregnant woman's belly twice. before jamie clark the father started recording with his cell phone, the 47-year-old male orangutan named rajang actually pointed at mazy knight's belly. >> started rubbing her belly
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with his fingers like that. >> reporter: then came the kiss which mazy describes as a nice feeling. it has gone viral. jamie offered the orangutan his belly, but the ape wasn't interested. and shooed away his hand. pregnant women have repeatedly caught his eye. this is also how i found out i was pregnant. he kept kissing my tummy and pointing so i went home done a test which was positive. and a mother posted her daughter's photo saying rajang kept touching her pregnant stomach through the glass and didn't take his eyes off her baby bump. the zoo says when the staff was first issued shorts rajang became fix all itted on legs and knees and intrigued by cuts and bruises. if you go visit strip off those band-aids. mazy is expecting a boy any day. you are not going to name him
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rajang? >> no. >> reporter: she may be expecting but she wasn't expecting this. jeanne moos cnn, new york. >> so cute. kind of right. i mean a little bit, yeah, okay. thank you for joining us everybody. set your dvr to record "out front" watch anytime. and "ac 360" starts now. >> good evening. we begin with the race for the white house. a race president obama says is awash with republican rhetoric inflammatory not conducive to good policy or politics. more on his comments in a moment. as you know some of the most controversial statements from donald trump. his comments on immigration, questioning john mccain's status as a war hero they've don't sit well with some of his fellow gop candidates. they don't seem to be hurting him among republican voters. we know this the first national cnn/orc poll since mccain comments donald trump is