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we will stay on top of this story to all of our viewers. thanks for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." remember, tweet me. erin burnett "out front" starts right now. breaking news. debris found off the coast of africa a source tells cnn it is consistent with a boeing 777. the same type of plane as the missing flight mh370. barnacles found on the debris could be crucial in determines where it crashed. are we closer now to finding out how the jet with 239 people on board went down? an exclusive interview with donald trump. why he called an attorney who asked for a break to pump breast milk disgusting. >> she wanted to breast pump in front of me. i may have said that's disgusting. >> let's go "out front."
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. >> good evening, everyone. i'm kate baldwin. more of the interview with donald trump. first we have the brablgeaking news in the search for missing flight mh370. mh370. debris found appears to be consistent with the same type of plane as mh370. that's according to a source close to the investigation. the wreckage was found on a small island in the indian ocean east of madagascar. thousands of miles from where the massive search for the plane had centered over the past year. renay march much is outremay marsh is out front.
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>> reporter: i can tell you, according to a source close to the investigation, i'm told that the initial assessment from boeing of the photos of this piece of an aircraft is that it is consistent with the appearance of a boeing 777, a portion of the 777's wing. the source says that there's a unique element to the boeing 777's portion of the wing that is known as the flaperon. they said they believe that they see that unique element in the photos. we don't have much detail on what that unique element is. but something that they are seeing in those photos of that portion of the wreckage that you are looking at there leads them to believe that this is indeed a piece of a boeing 777. but we do want to point out, this is a preliminary assessment. my source is stressing that this is just their initial read as they look through the photos.
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kate? >> seems like it could be huge. stressing, it's preliminary, but fascinating what they are picking up tonight. thank you so much. tonight, crash investigators now making their way to the island to try and get a closer look at this debris. david mckenzie is "out front" with that. how soon before investigators are going to be able to determine whether or not this really is what everyone has been waiting for, mh370? >> reporter: kate experts say it could be relatively quick before they can actually figure that out, because there should be markings serial numbers on that piece of debris. if it is in fact mh370, that would quickly identify it as such. the authorities say they are going to work directly with the french aviation authorities to figure out exactly what this piece of debris is. so many thousands of miles from the search zone. this search has been through many twists and turns.
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after more than 500 days searching, this small piece of airplane debris possibly part of a wing could be the first piece of wreckage from mh370. the plane that vanished without a trace more than 16 months ago. just seven feet long and four feet wide the debris was found by people cleaning the beach on an island some 400 miles east of madagascar. most recently ships have been scouring a huge swath of the southern indian ocean off the australian coast. today's discovery more than 2,6700 miles away from the search zone. mh h 3h370 took off march 8th last year. 239 passengers and crew on board for beijing. its last communication came less than an hour after take offbefore the flight veered way
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off course and disappeared. the search began with 22 planes and 19 ships from eight nations focused around the gulf of thailand and south china sea. it soon expanded. there have been multiple theories as to what brought down mh370. could it could haven't a fire? could the plane have been shot down? can the cabin decompress leaving the crew unconscious, turning it into a ghost plane? the theory that's gained the most interest, a rogue pilot deliberately crashing the plane. investigators have looked at the psychological profiles of the mraep's pilot and co-pilot searching for a motive. their families insist the men had no reason to crash the plane. this latest news is preliminary findings from a very expert source of course. if it does turn out to be mh370
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many, many more questions about how exactly it went down. that's what boeing earlier said to us that even if we find that this is the plane, how exactly did this all happen? we still do not know the answer to that. >> absolutely right. huge news potentially, but raise more and more questions. david, thank you very much. tonight, richard quest, myles o'brien and david gallo. it's great to see you. amazing some of the developments that we're hearing. preliminary, but any doubt in your mind this is mh370? >> it's getting -- as the hours go on it starts to look more likely than not that it is part of. but i caution, i have been successfully wrong on just about every count when i've heard debris was -- had been found
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during the first part of the search with the ping. well and truly bitten most definitely now shy of being definitive until we get confirmation. but if it is what it allows us to say is that the plane did go down and it did go down in that ocean. it doesn't tell us where. we will need people like david gallo's help like that. it doesn't tell us why. it gifrns sgives measure of close thaur we -- closure that we know it did go down. >> rene marsh is saying there's a unique element that investigators see in the photos of this piece of the wing that points to a boeing 777. they're not giving detail what that is. what could that be do you think? >> well i've been looking at some of the schematics and diagrams on the internet. there's a cottage industry out
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there of people who are connecting the dots between the diagrams and what they see on the ground there. it is quite striking. there are specific aspects of it the way the fittings are put together and the side of it has some very unusual features which match up neatly. this is unique. it's not like you go to the flaperon store and you pick out a flaperon and it fits on every airplane. this is designed for this particular aircraft. the next step will be to -- there is a pedigree to the parts, to check the serial numbers so you can dot the is and cross the ts. >> about shutly. this is really where your expertise comes in. this piece of mh370, if that's what it is would have been floating in the water for more than 500 days. the burning question then how did it potentially get from off the coast of australia to africa? >> that's a great question. fortunately, the currents head
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in that direction. it rotates counterclockwise from the search area over in that direction. there was plenty of time to do it. on the back of an envelope less than ten miles a day would have done it easily. it could have taken the currents. i'm wondering if they have begun an air search to the north and south of the area to see if there's anything else in the water, if that floated up -- came ashore now. >> absolutely. richard, you touched on this. as you said this may offer us some strong clues of how the plane crashed when they look at this debris. it likely does not get to the burning question that everyone wants to know, especially the families why did it crash. >> i'm sure there are people having heard myles' opinion in the last couple of hours about whether or not the flaperon was deployed or not, i don't think you can determine whether it was deployed or not from the pictures that we have seen. it will tell you how the plane went into the water very
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possibly. it's a very -- it's a large piece. but it's a very small piece in terms of making extrapolations of how the plane went down into the water. you can go it by looking at the way it was torn. you can look at the he various compression points and all that sort of stuff. in my view it tells us not a bit about what took place in the cockpit as the plane flew. >> myles, when you think about how this played out, after more than a year millions of dollars spent on the search what does it say that they may have found the plane simply by debris washing up on shore? >> well that's usually the way it goes. everything has been slow in this case. david gallo has a lot of familiarity with air france 447. they find the debris. you backtrack and ultimately to the core of the wreckage. it's just that this process has occurred in a very remote area. we're just now seeing the debris.
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i would like to beg a point here beg to differ with mr. quest here. if the flaperon was stowed either turning the plane or slowing the plane down, if it was stowed it's less likely it was that way. it was deployed for it to slow down to fly more gently into the water. those are two very diverge enter directions. one could be an autopilot. the other is more nefarious. the fact that that piece is what we see is a clue. >> we now need to learn more about what the flaperon is and we're going to look at that through the show. thanks so much. next we're going to look -- look at these pictures. this is the piece everyone is looking at. these barnacles covering the
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wing could they be the key to determining where this plane actually went down? donald trump in an exclusive interview attacking an attorney who asked to take a break so she could pump breast milk. >> i thought it was terrible. she's a horrible person. knows nothing about me. i see her. she's the great expert on donald trump. unbelievable! toenail fungus? seriously? smash it with jublia! jublia is a prescription medicine proven to treat toenail fungus. use jublia as instructed by your doctor. look at the footwork! most common side effects include ingrown toenail, application site redness, itching, swelling burning or stinging, blisters, and pain.
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breaking news. a major development in the search for malaysian airlines flight 370. tonight, a source says that debris that washed ashore on an island near madagascar is consistent with a 777, the same type of plane as mh370. until now, there hasn't been one piece of hard evidence to turn up. tom foreman is "out front." you have been taking a close are look at this debris. what are you finding? >> reporter: let's talk about what we know about this debris. we know that it's about seven feet long. we know it's three to four feet wide. we know that engineers from boeing have been looking at the same pictures and they have seen something that tell them as you noted that this belongs on a 777 or they believe it does. let's talk about where it might be. some of our analysts say that this would be consistent with
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something that would you find along one of the wings here this flaperon we have been talking about. some idea of what it is. we know what it looks like. we know where it might be. we can go through a checklist of things that tell us whether or not it's likely to be part of this plane. first of all, it meets the criteria of type. it's the right type of piece. it has the right color to it. it looks the right way. you mentioned the barnacles. the condition is right for something that has been in the water for around 500 days. we don't have the identifiers yet. the truth is most big pieces on big planes like this seat cushion from a different plane here from numbers on them that specifically link them to that plane. if you find a piece, you have found the plane in that sense. if they find the serial number on this piece and it matches the malaysia air flight then all the conspiracy theory about it having landed somewhere, that's absolutely disproven at that point if they can get that. that's what we know right now.
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>> obviously, one of the big things we don't know there's a huge question as they try to determine what this debris is of how it got there. right? >> reporter: that's what we don't know. let's get rid of this and go to our maps for a minute. what do we not know? we don't know how it could be there. remember all of the search areas, all of the talk has been based on the idea of australia, it came flying down and wound up in the search area somewhere here off the coast of australia. that's been all the calculations. why would this piece be way over here roughly the width of the united states away from the search areas? could it have flown there? let's move line over and i will slow you it cannot. really this would be the stopping point. it wouldn't go further than this. it would run out of gas far short of its target. very unlikely this was a miscalculation and it flew there. what our analysts are suggesting is they think it splashed in somewhere here and then these
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ocean currents that we have been talking about took over. there are strong enough currents here that given enough time they could carry a piece lick this all the way across there and have it wash up on the shore like this. what we have right now is a combination of what we know and what we still don't know. those big, big questions. how did it happen? where did it go? even if they determine this is part of the plane, those could still be out there for quite some time. >> so many questions. tom, laying it out for what we know right now perfectly. great to see you. thank you. david gallo is back with us along with mary schiavo, the former inspector general for the u.s. department of transportation and a cnn n nnn aviation analyst. i'm fascinated by this element. you can see the barnacles covering the debris. you say that could be key in determining where this plane went down. explain. >> i think everything becomes a piece of the crime scene as if
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it were. in fact looking like a csi ocean oceananic. everybody growing on there has been there for a reason. the oceans aren't the same all the way across. there are certain patches of chemicals, certain animals like certain things certain temperatures certain water chemistry. i'm wondering if a gi biology can look at that as a mini-eco mini-ecosystem and help us understand the path that that piece of aircraft took across the indian ocean. i'm just not sure. i know that everything is on the record. there's probably something we can learn from that. we will have to wait and see. the piece is in the hands of the bea, the french ntsb right now. having worked with them i can tell you they will get every clue possible. every bit of information possible out of this bit of aircraft. >> a lot offize izeof eyes in a lot of countries that want to get this right. we're talking about the location
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that this debris was picked up. when you look at the flaperon if that's what we think it is, what are you looking at to try to start to determine how the plane crashed? >> so many things. most importantly, of course the condition of it and the barnacles are significant, too. there are over 1,000 species of barnacles. in other crashes we have looked at animal life sands that have come in with things sands in the marine life to determine where it might have been. then also the significant point is because the 777 was completely reengineered and resigned it was a new plane designed by computers, the parts on it are unique to the 777. if this is a 777 part it is most definitely mh370. there have only been two crashes. two were malaysian airlines. one over the ukraine and this one is san francisco and one in
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london. those couldn't have provided parts. we will know if it is a 777 that it's mh370. i think people will look at the direction if plane had made a turn back. i tlihink that's significant if the parts -- they will search for other parts. it might lead to theories about perhaps the plane turned back to kuala lumpur and kept going. >> we heard about the serial number that will be in this debris so they can link it back to figure out if it's from the 777. can the serial number scratch off or wash off or anything like that? >> sure. the elements can take it away. they are painted on. it's very important for maintenance, because you have to keep track of every single part record on that plane for maintenance. so it would most likely be on the inside. it's painted on. i worked -- did work many years later at the crash of pan airlines 123 and ten to 15 years later the part numbers were
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still on debris that was found on the mountain. it's possible. even if it's washed off the boeing engineers will know because the 777 was brand new. there's nothing out -- there was nothing out there like it at the time. >> this is just one piece of debris that's been found. is it surprising that they haven't found more debris? does that tell you anything? >> i don't know how hard they're looking right now. there's aircraft in the air looking north and south. again, you can't understand estimate the -- or overstate how important maybe emotionally this is to the families. very sad, too. for the families and loved ones and friends of the 239 passengers on board. but it is the first tangible bit of evidence that a plane went down in the southern part of the indian ocean. now the big trick is to find out where did it come from. where is the center of the haystack? i can tell you from having seen some of the survey data that they have collected, is that we know pretty well where the plane
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isn't on the sea floor. now things are starting to close in. now that we have a piece of wreckage that's great. we have a huge area of the sea floor mapped. now i think things are beginning to close in or what might be looked at next. >> mary what's your view on this? it ends up off the coast of africa. in your view does that mean that searchers -- they were looking in the wrong place for months? >> it's possible. remember the ocean there is -- as david knows better than i, it's the rocky mountains under the water. it's possible they could have missed it. but i do think that they will rethink perhaps the trajectory the plane took from the last ping from that aircraft itself. >> everything david and mary, that you talked about about the ocean floor, it's coming back to me now, the thick sit being three as the search begins once again. thank you so much. next after an attorney
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welcome back to our viewers in the unltsited states and and the world. a new interview with donald trump. he is in the midst of a new controversy. a lawyer who once deposed him says that he called her disgusting when she requested a break to pump breast milk. >> he had an absolute meltdown when i said that i needed the break and it was for breast pumping purposes. he got up his face got red, he shook his finger at me and he screamed you're disgusting
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you're disgusting. and he ran out of there. >> dana bash is here with her interview. trump is not taking that accusation lightly. >> reporter: no. that's probably not a surprise to anybody who has ever watched donald trump at all, particularly when somebody comes after him so personally. he shoots back. that's what he did today. she said that you got up shook your finger screamed you're disgusting you're disgusting and ran out. >> okay. i watched that and i thought it was disgraceful. she's a terrible attorney. she lost her case to me. i won legal fees. the judge awarded legal fees which is rare when you get that. we beat her soundly. she's got a terrible reputation in my opinion. she's got just a terrible reputation. our lawyers have said how bad she was. i beat her. what happened is in the middle of everything it wasn't breast feed. it was breast pump. she wanted to pump in front of me during a deposition.
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>> the >> reporter: she wanted to take a break so she could -- >> if you ask my lawyer who was there, he said i've never seen anything like it. she wanted to pump in front of me. and i may have said that's disgusting. i may have said something else. i thought it was terrible. she's a horrible person. knows nothing about me. i see her, she's now the great expert on donald trump. >> reporter: the question isn't so much that she's an expert but she does have an experience which she clearly doesn't think -- >> excuse me. she lost. that's what the country needs. the country needs somebody that's going to win. we always lose. we lose entree trade to china, japan, mexico. wouldn't it be nice if we could win something? i beat her so badly. she's a vicious, horrible person. >> reporter: because you are not a politician we don't have your voting record to go on. we don't have -- we have your experience as a businessman. part of your experience are legal issues. >> let me explain.
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so many people are on television that don't know me and they are like experts on me. when michael jackson died -- i knew him very well. everybody was talking about michael jackson. they didn't know him. some never met him. i laughed to myself they are talking about michael jackson, they never met him. >> reporter: but she -- i don't think anybody is saying she's an expert on donald trump. >> she claims to be. >> reporter: she's recounting an experience. my question for you is -- >> she lost. >> reporter: people are thinking okay if he blows up at a lawyer in a deposition -- >> i didn't blow up. >> reporter: what would he -- what would you do if putin challenged you? >> believe me he would be -- i would do very well with him. i get along with people. i didn't blow up at a deposition. i don't blow up. i'm a person that -- >> reporter: she's wrong? >> she made it up. >> reporter: one other thing i want to ask about that was in
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"the new york times" this morning, they went through some of your depositions quoted you saying i'm no different from a politician running for office. you want to put the best foot forward, saying that you exaggerate. >> i do want to put the best. you can call it exaggeration. i want to put the best foot forward. i'm not going to say everything is terrible. i'm an optimistic person. i'm optimistic for the country. of course i want to put -- >> reporter: do you exaggerate? >> everybody exaggerates. i guess i do. wasn't to say good things. i have space for rent. somebody walks in. am i supposed to say, this space is no good don't take it it's terrible? or am i supposed to say this is beautiful, don't you love it isn't it wonderful look at the view? >> reporter: will you exaggerate in the white house? >> the world -- i don't think the world exaggerate is a good word. i want to put a positive spin on things. i want to put a positive spin on the united states. if i'm president. we have a country that's not respected. we're very down.
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the united states is very down. we don't have good news anymore. we don't have victories anymore. i would certainly want to promote the united states as a great place. people are laughing at us all over the world. they think we're stupid. and we are. we're being led by stupid people. we're being led by people that don't have a clue they're incompetent. >> reporter: one other question about the quote. you said i'm no different from a politician running for office. have you considered yourself a politician? you are out there there saying you are not. >> a became a politician when i decided -- >> reporter: this is several years ago. >> yeah. burt politicians running for office try and put a positive spin. i think that's okay. what are they going to do put a negative spin in they try and put a positive spin. a politician is a person that generally speaking should be uplifting. >> reporter: do you consider yourself a politician? >> now i'm a politician but i'm not acting like a politician because i tell the truth. >> to hear him acknowledge that he exaggerates, i can't decide
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if it's shocking or refreshing. >> reporter: you know that's the issue. the fact is the reason why donald trump is leading in all the polls, not just nationally, but he is doing extremely well in new hampshire in iowa is because he defies convention. convention of course, is a politician somebody running for president has admitted to exaggerating it's like game over. his numbers are going to go up because expectations are different for him. >> also especially talking about defying convention, flip-flopping as the worst words in politics ever but he acknowledges it. >> reporter: he went from advocating single payer system canadian style government run socialist healthcare model to being a conservative republican in 15 years. he wrote that in his book 15 years ago.
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again, game over for most people. not donald trump, at least not yet. >> defying convention. that's not all of it. dana will stick around. there's more of this. more of donald trump in an interview. now he is invoking a gop hero. >> ronald reagan was a long time ago. he liked me a lot. i helped him a little bit. back to our top story. i will talk to ta man whose wife was lost on mh370. i'm gonna crack like nobody's watching and eat like i skipped lunch. why? because red lobster's crabfest is back. and i'm diving into so much crab so many ways. like crab lover's dream with luscious snow and king crab legs and rich crab alfredo or this snow crab bake. who knew crab goes with everything? whoever put crab on this salmon, that's who. with flavors like these, i'm almost too excited to eat! hey i said almost. and now that it's back
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back now with more of dana bash's exclusive interview with donald trump, who was once a registered democrat now running as a republican candidate for president. he has accused of flip-flopping on key issues including abortion. dana asked trump about that today. >> reporter: on the train up here i bought your 2000 book. 7.99 on amazon.
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i contributed to the empire. in reading it there were a couple of things that jumped out. one is on abortion. at time you said you were pro-choice. now you changed. >> i am pro-life. i had an experience with a friend of mine who was, frankly -- they were going to abort their child, which they ended up having. their child is like this magnificent person. it had an impact. i have seen that a couple of times. i'm pro-life. >> reporter: but you do think there should be exceptions for rape and insist. >> yes. and life -- the health of the mother. because you have cases where the mother may die. it's basically ronald reagan had the same thing. he had the three exceptions. >> reporter: you would be the leader of the republican party. would you make sure that that exception or those exceptions would be in the platform? >> it would be something i would discuss seriously with the people in the republican party.
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i'm actually getting along very well with the people at rnc right now. i think that would be something certainly we would be discussing. i do agree with -- ronald reagan was a long time ago. he liked me a lot. i liked him a lot. i helped him a little bit. he had the exceptions also. it would be something i would want to discuss with the republican party. >> reporter: last question. you are going to head abroad to do business for a couple of days. the debate is a week from today. talk about a donald trump debate prep. are you going to be reading on plane? how is that going to work? >> i own one of the great resorts in the world in scotland. having the women's british open for years i was going to go to this tournament. now all of of a sudden i'm going to put it down for a day and a half or something. i feel an obligation do it. it's biggest tournament in woman's golf. it's one of the biggest tournaments. i'm going to go there for a day and a half. i will be back immediately. i have to be who i am. these other people -- i know
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they have their debate coaches and they have their pollsters and they don't say anything without the pollsters knowing exactly -- they pay them hundreds of thousands and some cases hundreds of thousands of dollars a month. >> reporter: i'm sure you are brushing up on policy. >> i am. i brush up all the time. i'm reading constantly. i'm watching your show and others. i'm constantly brushing up. every time i turn on the television -- >> reporter: no formal debate prep? >> i watched mitt romney where he locked himself in a cabin to a week and he wasn't able to speak. something happened to him. it wasn't a good picture. obama, he studied and he wasn't great either. i would say that certainly he was horrible on the first debate and not good in the second two. romney was not good. i am going to be donald trump. i think if i'm not donald trump it's not going to look good. i will do my best. i've never done it before. >> reporter: who is your biggest competition? >> i don't know. >> reporter: who are you most
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looking at? you are a competitor. >> i don't know. you don't know what's going to happen. you are up there and you are talking. you don't know who is coming at you. if you watch you and everybody at you, they're all coming at me. whatever it is, it is. >> he might not be doing any formal prep but nine other competitors who will be on the stage, of course, they are and have been for months. >> i can't tell if he's lowering expectations or he's not prepping. >> reporter: it could be one in the same. >> you are right. he has gotten into trouble with his own party. now i found it fascinating that he told you now he's getting along with everyone. that clearly is not stopping him from taking jabs at his gop rivals and also of course democrats, namely hillary clinton, right? >> yeah. i said to him, it seems as though you have mellowed. it was a week ago that he was going after the republican party as treating him very unfairly. now he sounds very different.
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can i ask you a couple of questions before we wrap up? you mentioned that you are getting along well with the republican national committee. >> i am. >> reporter: and i also notice that your tone has changed a little bit. you softened a little bit. >> really? >> reporter: you don't think so? >> i get criticized by bush. he said tone tone. i understand what he is saying. we need a strong tone in this country. >> reporter: about the republican national committee, i know you have been talking to the chair. >> i have. >> reporter: can you give me some insight into the conversations? why are you so much more positive now? is it just because -- >> i don't think i've changed. i think that -- i've gotten some amazing polls. look at the poll in new hampshire. >> reporter: what about the conversations you have been talking about? >> i think the conversations are very nice. i respect him. look the best way to win is for me to win the nomination and i will beat hillary. believe me. i will beat hillary. hillary -- i don't know if she's
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going to be able to run. what she did is a criminal act. she burned up e-mails. she got rid of her hard drive. she had subpoenaed from the united states congress. the general was destroyed for doing less. they destroyed this general's life and what he did is far less than what she has done. i don't know that she's going to make it. i don't think it's bernie sanders. other peoples will join the race like biden and other people. i'm not so sure she's going to be in the race because what she did is a criminal act. the only reason she's maybe and probably not going to be prosecuted is because all of the prosecutors are democrats. otherwise, she wouldn't have a chance. what she did is far worse than petraeus. >> reporter: it's not clear technically whether she committed any kind of criminal act. for the record. but i think on the political side of this this isn't the first time he actually has said to me that he doesn't think ta she's necessarily going to be the nominee.
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remembering back to 2008 obama was nipping at her heels and eventually became the nominee. the question is whether or not he's right. does he know something about joe biden? who knows. wouldn't put anything past him. >> who knows is for sure. the fighting has all been to this point all on the republican side. so you are seeing -- for the most part. you are finally seeing with him he is starting to sharpen his attack towards hillary. >> reporter: absolutely. there's nothing more unifying among republicans than to go after hillary clinton. that's an absolute applause line standing ovation line red meat. whatever you want to call it. everybody on the republican side who really is a member of the base wants to hear that. that's not a surprise. you know maybe it's a surprise to hillary clinton if she's watching because he used to contribute to her. they used to be friends. i think she went to his wedding. >> one of the front pews. another bit of the interesting donald trump. you took him on, thank you so much.
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more on the breaking news in the search for missing flight mh 370. debris found off the coast of africa appears to be consistent with part of a wing from a boeing 777. the same type of plane as mh380 amh380, -- mh 370. it disappeared more than 16 month as go now with 239 people on board. out front tonight, k.s. nurendrin, his wife was on the plane. mr. nurendrin, such an emotional and stuff topic for you and so many families of malaysia flight 370. after all of this time what is your reaction to this news? >> hi. i think this is very early days yet. all we know is that a small part has been found.
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it is still a little early to suggest it does belong to mh370. i think it is premature to feel that it is all coming to a close or that we are even closer to the truth. >> is that feeling in part because there have been so many fits and starts with this investigation over the past year? so many possible sightings and then those hopes dashed? >> absolutely. it just has been such a roller coaster over the months. so it is a little hard to believe that -- that we would come across a part that is thousands of miles away from where it is generally believed to be located. so -- it is a little hard to believe at this point in time. so one would look to be a little
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more sure before one can, you know start thinking about what the next steps could be. >> yeah allowing yourself to really kind of feel anything at this point. if this would be confirmed to be a part from the boeing 777 if this is confirmed to be debris from mh370. you say this only one critical stechlt step. what are your lingering questions even beyond that? >> there is any number of questions. we are talking about a small part of a large airplane. so you know the basic question that arises to me at least is you, know where is the plane? and where are passengers? and what really happened? why might something have happened? who, who is responsible? so any number of questions that that spring up. so to me it is a very small piece of what shall i say a more devolving, evolving emerging
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scenario to me here. for me it raises more questions than it answers at this point in time. >> so what for you now? with this news lingering out there, obviously waiting for confirmation confirmation do you sit and wait for a phone call of some sort? >> do you have any idea or suggestions for anything that i could do i don't think so. ? >> yeah exactly, that seems to be the case. >> in fact i, i would imagine it would have been easier for families and others who are interested to be appraised of what has emerged once there was some confirmation. it is a little too early to even think about the possibility thousands yet. all that it raises are prospects. that's all that is. >> that's all there is right now. well everyone you have to remember that not only are they looking for a missing plane, also talking 239 souls on board, one of them your wife. mr. narendran, thank you for
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colby isabelle burnett weighed in and is getting a lot of attention from her big brother nile. colby as beautiful as her mama. erin please enjoy time at home with your family now. and that all of us can't wait to see you back here very soon. thank you for joining us you guys. and "ac 360" starts right now. good evening. we begin with breaking news. the discovery of plane debris could be from malaysian airlines flight that vanished more than a year ago. debris off the coast of a remote island in the western indian ocean and being sxamexamined to see if it is connected to the disappearance of the flight and 239 aboard. boeing has looked at the photos and the debris is consistent with a piece of the wing from a 777 which is the type of plane that malaysia airlines flight was. we also just learned the