hi, everyone. 6:00 eastern this sunday evening, i'm poppy harlow in new york. the race to the white house and the man leading the gop pack, donald trump. for the very first time tonight, he's releasing details on how he plans to tackle immigration, if elected president. the headline on illegal immigrants, quote, they have to go. here is what else is in the plan. he wants to end birth right citizenship of children of illegal immigrants. he will triple the number of i.c.e. agents. also cut federal grants to so-called sanctuary cities. here he is this morning on "meet the press." >> we have to make a whole new set of standards, and when people come in, they have to -- >> you're going to split up families, deport children? >> we'll keep the families

together. we have to keep the families together. >> but kick then out? >> they have to go. >> what if they have no place to go. >> we'll work with them. they have to go. we either have a country, or we don't have a country. >> how do you do it? >> look at the cost of what we have right now? >> how do you do it? >> do you think there's tremendous cost for the illegals in here right now? >> of course. >> tremendous. do you think there's tremendous crime being committed by illegals? >> there's definitely evidence that it's happening. >> and you see it all over, just last night. all over. we will do it, and we will expedite it so people can come back in. >> it's still not clear. >> it will work out so well, in four years you'll be interviewing me and you'll be saying, what a great job you've done president trump. >> let's talk more about this. the plan and the race overall for the white house. roger stone is with me again. thank you for being with me, sir. former political adviser to donald trump.

he left the campaign a week ago. still good friends with mr. trump? >> i'm in the trump movement. >> you heard it here. going through this plan, i laid out some of it. is this a realistic plan? >> this is typically trump. it is something that is part of his management style. he goes to the -- very much like president eisenhower. he slegts really good people and relies on them. he went to senator jeff sessions who has been the leader in the congress for serious immigration reform. he helped him formulate a realistic plan. those who say that you cannot pay for the wall, you'll never get mexico to pay for the wall, we pay mexico $260 million a year in foreign aid. trump could deduct the cost of the wall from their foreign aid payments. if i know trump, he would charge them interest. >> talking about the most controversial part of the plan, ending the birth right citizenship, changing the 14th amendment in this country. >> it's a radical and bold plan.

we have a major problem. it's going to take a radical and bold solution. for those who say he doesn't have any prescriptions, i would point out the book he wrote in 2011, time to get tough, which is being reissued in an update august 1st. and it's all there. immigration, job creation, china, immigration. he's laid out -- >> you're saying it's radical. donald trump said i will win the hispanic vote, he's said that time and time again. ending the birth right citizen s&p. and the so-called dreamers, that he will send children born of illegal immigrants back to their families. does he risk alienating the hispanic vote? >> i think he hopes to offset that by the fact that he stands for economic boom. a rising tide lifts all boats. >> you're acknowledging it might hurt him a bit there? >> i think he has a chance to win the hispanic vote, because

the hispanics in this country are hard working people. but there are no jocks and there is no opportunity. consequently i think he's hoping to make an economic pitch to hispanic voters. >> let's turn to foreign policy. fascinating to hear more details from him this morning on how he would deal with iran, and also how he would deal with isis. he told chuck todd this morning on nbc he wants to, quote, knock the hell out of isis. we should take over their oil fields, and the u.s. should have boots on the ground to fight isis. and we overtake the oil fields, run them and get the money from them, not the iraqis. is that the right approach? >> this has been his position for some time. we were told that we would be paid back for the war in iraq. we were not. we never took the oil. now oil is the greatest weapon of isis. they have $1 billion operation to take this country down. >> do the voters have the

stomach for that? do they have the stomach to go back with boots on the ground? >> i think you have to look at the situation. other than to say, the one thing trump really abhors is the tendency of the obama administration to announce your plans. we're going to start bombing next thursday. >> i hear you on that. but what i asked is, is he betting that the american people are ready to go back in? >> i think that he understands that isis is an existential threat to this country. and they have to be destroyed. he will destroy them. and he'll do what it takes. >> now, you also made the point that he takes issue with the administration saying what they're going to do. >> yes. >> how about the military operations overseas? under a trump presidency? >> i don't think we would telegraph to the enemy what we're going to do so they can counteract it. that's the foolishness of announcing what your military moves are.

this is what he does. he finds the best people. he downloads all the information, and then elets them do what they do. this is why, like eisenhower, he would be a great president. >> i want to play a comment, something that donald trump said here a few days ago on cnn. let's roll it. >> here's the point. i didn't sit down and draw a plan, that tomorrow i'll go and have a meeting. the next day i'll go and make an offer. i went in and got it. i went in and got turnberry in scotland, one of the great resorts in the world, everybody wanted it. i didn't wait around to do a 14-point plan. i went in and got this. you don't want to hear about the plans, you've got to get in and get it done. >> he told a reporter at the iowa state fair yesterday, you, the press, want these big 14-point plans from me. the voters don't want it. >> actually, i think that's correct. i think presidential politics is about broad themes. he needs to tell you where he's going. but president gingrich was the man of wonkyism, and heavy-duty

multi-point plans. the voters' eyes start to glaze over. >> how about the six-page plan? >> i think this plan is an outline. it's six pages, that's the point. >> not 60. >> you see exactly where trump stands. the voters aren't going to read a white paper. they want to see the bold strokes. what are the three or four things you're going to do? >> i had someone from the iowa state fair on the air last night. her husband is unemployed. i think a lot of people see the unemployment rate 5.4%, and they feel like things are so much better. for some there's pain out there and the jobs argument is resonating with a lot of them. what's fascinating is the new foxx pole of the republicans. donald trump by the top poll by ben car s, and ted cruz. like jeb bush, scott walker, marco rubio falling, and the outsiders are rising. what's going on? >> i think it has to do with the revulsion with the corrupt political system and rejection

of career politicians. notice the three candidates moving up. trump moving up. dr. ben carson moving up. carly fiorina, moving up. why? outsiders. not politicians. people who come from a different discipline. that is a business. it is not coincidental that the two greatest republican presidents in my lifetime didn't come from politics. ronald reagan and dwight eisenhower. the people are fed up with the system they perceive to be broken. and they realize that all these other candidates have been gorging on special interests money, that they're unlikely to ever really bring real reform. >> who would donald trump pick as a running mate? >> it might be at this juncture, i would look hard at dr. ben carson and carly fiorina. an african-american -- >> he slammed carly fiorina time and again. >> george bush slammed ronald reagan, too, and he got on the ticket.

let me add one other. lyndon johnson hated john kennedy, and he got on the ticket. politics is about winning, about inclusi inclusion. i look at those two because they're nonpoliticians. >> did he tell you that? >> no, this is my opinion. but it's obvious from the poll numbers. the american people want bold solutions, from people who aren't part of our feted political system. >> roger stone, a pleasure to have you on. thank you very much. i appreciate it, sir. >> glad to be here. >> also, i want to point you to this. the next republican debate. what will donald trump say, you're only going to find out here on cnn. the next republican debate september the 16th at the ronald reagan library in california, right here on cnn. cnn will also host the first of six democratic debates. also, october 13th, that first of the democratic debate in nevada. still to come this hour, another commercial airliner crashing in the mountains in indonesia. search crews about to head out this hour to crisscross

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day break in indonesia right now. that's when rescue officials say they're going to try once again to try to pinpoint the wreck of a commercial airliner. the plane, just like this one, vanished from radar in the middle of a very short domestic flight this morning. people on the ground say they saw it crash into the side of a mountain. the tri ghana airline flight.

what do we know about exactly where the plane went down? i know the mountains are about 13,000 feet high. >> reporter: yeah, it's believed this plane has crashed, that's at least what villagers are saying. they saw this plane crash yesterday afternoon indonesia time. it was about half an hour into its flight from jayapura in indonesia, when it lost contact with air control. no distress signal was sent out, no indication there was anything wrong with the plane. when it left, there was good weather. however, we are hearing from experts that there was thunderstorm activity over this mountainous area. as you say, 12,000 to 13,000 feet high mountains. we know that about an hour ago, search and rescue teams were activated from jayapura airport. they're sending about six aircraft over the area. they think they have pinpointed

the exact area. and they're going to be surveying that area to try and find the plane, try and find the wreckage, see if there are any survivors. physically getting people out is going to be extremely difficult. we're also hearing, poppy, there are thunderstorms in the area, so that could very well hamper rescue efforts, search efforts as well. >> what about the safety record of this airline? >> reporter: we're hearing that it had an appalling safety record, black listed by the european union. it's had something like 14 incidents. and yeah, it just does not bode well for it. but this is indonesia. this is a developing country. where the air industry, aviation industry is rapidly growing. so you do have these airlines coming on line, if you like, and they're training up pilots, obviously not to the standards

that we expect in the west. but they are making these flights. and this is the third plane to go missing here in asia in the last 18 months, which is just extraordinary. >> it's astonishing. thank you very much. reporting this evening from hong kong for us. i want to turn to a commercial airline pilot. we showed a picture of this plane, relatively small plane, about a 50-seater, flying in less than ideal conditions. we know there were thunderstorms in the area, shooting in on a very tricky approach through the mountains there. what are the most obvious factors that could have caused this? >> the most obvious is as you mentioned, weather, of course. >> we fly through bad weather. >> that's true. after looking at a google map a fairly recent one, or a satellite photo of it, that airport looks -- it's up at 4,000 feet elevation, if i recall. and by looking at the airport markings, there's an indication, if they're standard airport

markings, that it has a nonprecision approach, if that at all. which means it doesn't have a glide slope. >> it's not a clear path to land? >> it's not a clear path, but look, these pilots have done it before. the factors and answers to your question could be weather. they could have had to deviate away from the weather and lost their situational awareness. speculation. but -- or mechanical. >> the safety record is very concerning. >> yes. >> so bad, the european union banned this airline from flying in european air space since 2007. 14 incidents since 1992 for an airline with only, you know, 20-odd planes. why would this airline be still flying? >> their criteria versus our faa in the states may have two different things. so that's my only response to that whole scenario. the airplane itself was, we found out is 27 years old.

that's not a big deal. you know, in dog years, it's really about four years. as long as it's maintained well, as long as the pilots are trained properly. >> the fact that this is the third time you've seen something like this in indonesian air space, among indonesian carriers -- asian carriers, i should say, in the last 18 months. >> very troubling, absolutely. there's a -- it could be right that we've had discussions about the outpacing, growing so fast that they're not setting up their infrastructure, i don't think -- just looking at that one runway, the destination of this particular aircraft, looking at that one runway it didn't look like much. it doesn't mean it couldn't be a safe operation. but if you're going to have a growing air traffic system, you really have to grow your infrastructure, too. >> thank you very much. very tragic. 54 people onboard. we appreciate it. still ahead this hour, a

historic day for america's favorite pastime. david denson, making history as the first openly gay active player in major league baseball.

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level in every sport across america over the last 15 years. and every one of them says the same exact story, that when they come out, their teammates embrace them and continue to love them as their brother or sister. it's incredible statement, because it continues to erode this idea that sports is a homophobic place. >> a big change came in major league baseball a year ago, when bud selig banned harassment, and pointed at ambassador for inclusion. how much do you think that's a part of it? someone at the top, whether it's a roger goodel, or the mlb commissioner coming out and saying, we're not going to take it anymore? >> all of the major professional sport leagues have anti-discrimination policies, now to protect gay people. it wouldn't be a surprise this would happen with major league baseball, in the middle of the season, because major league baseball really has to be

taken -- it's taken a step beyond the others. appointing billy bean for inclusion was a huge step. now you have somebody who is openly gay, who is a former athlete, going to all of the teams, meeting the players, the managers, the executives. billy as an ambassador for the lgbt community in baseball, i think that really sets major league baseball apart from -- baseball has really put their stamp on billy and billy has delivered. >> you sound optimistic, which is fantastic. but i know it's not always a welcoming environment in every single locker room. just like every office, or every school isn't a welcoming environment. what needs to change going forward? >> more people need to come out. there isn't much more the teams

and nonlgbt people can do to continue to make videos, and continue to make statements and continue to create policies, but at this point, i believe that lgbt people have to come out in sports at every level, in every locker room. and that is the only way to change, i think, the few corners of the sports world that are still problematic. though i will say the one piece to the puzzle that sets pro sports apart are old white guys in suits making decisions. i think those guys in the front offices of these teams are far more scared of this than are the athletes who are mostly in their 20s. >> syd, thank you so much. appreciate it. what a day in the world of baseball. >> appreciate it. thank you. you're going to want to see this. stumping for trump. this guy, this young man, 10-year-old shane doyle. he is such a fan of donald trump, he got an invite to ride

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the trump helicopter this weekend. i am so happy to be joined by shay along with his mom and dad. thank you for being here, guys. >> same to you. >> you have to tell me, shay, because i know mom and dad were not invited into that helicopter. you got to go with your sister. what was it like and what did you talk to donald trump about yesterday? >> i didn't get a chance to speak with him, for a brief moment before i got on the helicopter. >> what did he say? >> he patted me on the back and said, thank you. and -- >> he had to get on his way. >> what questions did you ask? >> i wish i had the opportunity to really speak with him like i did. i mean, i was really thankful for the opportunity anyway. >> what was the helicopter like? >> it was very, very fancy.

my sister came off the helicopter yelling, running towards my mom saying, the seat belts are gold! >> really? wow. all right. so that was a lot of fun. but turning to more, you know, serious news now, you love specific things about donald trump. what is it that you think would be great about him leading this country, for you and for your parents? >> the way he would run the country like a business. i feel like that is how it's supposed to be run. >> and for you, michelle and casey, are you guys as big trump fans as your son is? >> we support -- yes, we support donald trump. i would say that shay's actually guided our interest for sure. we're not typically a political family. but shay kind of got himself into new york and the stock

exchange, and mr. trump came to warberg and shay followed mr. trump and got excited about him and here we are today. >> michelle, what about you? specifically, what do you like about donald trump? what policy excites you most, and what would he do for your family? >> there's a couple. i think how he feels about employment, and increasing employment. one thing in particular for me is his caring for our education system and the opportunity for him to make changes and better our education. >> shay, you are a rising fifth grader. you are 10 years old. you are incredibly bright and well spoken and passionate. i'm interested, because you say about trump, his passion leads him to where he wants to go. what's your passion, my friend? >> i follow what i'm interested in. for the past two years, i have been interested in politics, and business. and i have been studying that. if you find me at home, i'll

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a crashed airliner overseas, the search is resuming this hour, specifically in the province island of papua. it was on a very short domestic flight when ground controllers lost contact with the plane. and people on the ground say they saw the plane crash into the side of a mountain. our aviation analyst is here with us, and inspector general at the u.s. department of transportation. when you look at this plane, 54 people onboard, 27-year-old plane, the very concerning thing is the track record. the safety track record of this airline. 14 incidents since 1992. they only have 20-odd planes. what kind of oversight would be on a plane with such a potspott safety record? >> that's why the european union did ban them and many of the carriers from indonesia, is because they determined that indonesia does not have adequate

oversight of the safety -- of the safety operations of their carriers and the airlines of the indonesia country. that's part of the problem. and there's a really trifecta of problems. they have problems with training and maintenance. this particular airline has the atrs, 42-seaters, i understand they're allowed to fly them with 50 people. and 72s. those planes pretty much don't even fly in the lower 48 in the united states. we have kind of kicked those to the caribbean. and warmer, better weather because they don't do well in storms, icing, bad weather. so it's really just a trifecta of problems for this carrier. descending in an area was probably not the best landing and radar equipment either. >> thunderstorms were in the area. we don't know what role they may have played. what about the search now? is it possible this may be a search and rescue mission? >> it's possible. i'm remembering a few prior

crashes that japan airlines 123 crashed in the '80s. several days later there were still survivors. there would have been many more had they been able to get to them faster. the key is getting there quickly. but i imagine this plane was right in line to head into the airport. the problem is, the mountains are 10,000 feet, and the airport, just ten miles in front of that, is at 4,200 feet, and you have to fly high and drop low. my guess is the plane is off the end of the runway but in the mountains. >> when you look at these kind of planes -- not these kind of planes, but the fact that this airline is banned from flying anywhere in european air space, banned by the eu since 2007, and you've seen now three planes disappear and crashing in asia in the last 18 months, it's hard for people to believe it's happened again. >> well, it is. and it's hard for the world to understand why they don't have better equipment all the way around, particularly in radar

and air traffic control and requiring better onboard equipment. remember after the disappearance of moo lash yeah 370, one of the issues is that indonesian radar, which is allegedly what they tracked mh-37 oh as it left the air space and up and around and into the indian ocean, articles and reports after that disappearance indicated indonesia as much as two-thirds of the radar was not functional anytime. and they turn it off at night. that's really unacceptable in a modern aviation nation. >> no question, real tragedy. 54 people onboard. mary, thank you for that. still to come here, the civil rights movement mourning the loss of an iconic leader. next, we will remember the extraordinary life of julian bond.

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bond died saturday night at the age of 75. according to the southern poverty law center where he was the founding president, he died after a brief illness. the life-long civil rights leader was also a former board chairman of the naacp. president obama said in a statement today that bond was both a hero and a friend. here is a look at his extraordinary life. >> he was one of the youngest civil rights foot soldiers. julian bond's journey as an activist, poet, lawmaker, television commentator, and teacher was impressively significant spanning decades. in the '60s, he was a student at morehouse college, when he became co-founder and communications director of the student organizing committee, serving alongside john lewis. >> we got others to join us by demonstrating that we were willing to risk our lives to help them. but they would have to take a

step, too. they would have to join us. and time, moment by moment, minute by minute, time by time, more and more people did until we had an effective organization. >> described as passionate about fighting discrimination, and any vestiges of white supremacy, he was also known for his wit, intellect, cool demeanor and good looks. he would be elected to the georgia house of representatives in 1965. but would still encounter indignities to what would become his 20-year service. his white colleagues in the house refused to let him take his seat because of his opposition to the vietnam war. a year later, in 1966, the supreme court accused the legislature of violating his freedom of speech, and ordered it to seat him. he would also serve in the georgia senate for years. a constant advocate of learning, the former lawmaker would teach at various universities,

including harvard, the university of pennsylvania, and most recently american university. he was founding president of the southern poverty law center in the '70s. in a statement following his death, the splc said, with julian's passing, the country has lost one of its most passionate and eloquent voices for the cause of justice. he advocated not just for african-americans, but for every group. indeed, every person subject to oppression and discrimination. because he recognized the common humanity in us all. the tennessee native was committed to civil rights in america, and beyond. in 1985, he was arrested outside the south african embassy in washington, d.c., leading crowds protesting apartheid, that country's legalization of racial segregation. the human and civil rights iconserved as chairman of the naacp for a decade. >> what we do has not changed. we fight racial discrimination, but the way in which we do it

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the discovery of ancient ruins in israel may shed a new

light on christianity. there has been unearthed what might be the hometown of mary magdeline and a synagogue of where jesus may have preached. >> on the sea of galilee. volunteers pray. here in the ruins of an ancient town, each swing of the pick ax an effort to uncover what life was like some 2,000 years ago. historians believe jesus may have once walked these cobbled streets. this may have been home to one of the most important figures of the bible, the first reported witness of the resurrection. >> this is a holy site. i'm sure of that. >> reporter: six years ago a father purchased the land to build a christian retreat. law required him to excavate and

completely by chance he uncovered a first century synagogue. jesus preached in the synagogues of galilee. it's possible that jesus preached here. it's considered ornate. >> this is not for me. this is for millions of people that will come and see these buildings and hopefully they will be able to discover our common roots. >> reporter: the center, the altar known as the magdala stone. >> this is the first time a carving on stone is found out of the synagogue. >> reporter: it may be one of the most important finds in israel. archaeologists uncovered this bowl that jesus may have used to wash his hands before entering the synagogue to pray.

archaeologist shows us the town's purification baths. remarkably the baths still work to this day. they have found coins and are working to restore pottery. >> it is a story about common life. about the materials. >> and about the intersection of judaism and christianity. erin, cnn, israel. >> fascinating to take a look at what this can man. sw thank you for being here. it's fascinating to see what can this excavation tell us about mary magdeline herself? >> it could tell us a whole lot. she is jesus's closest female disciple. she gave to jesus out of her

means. if this was her hometown, perhaps we can discover more about her. perhaps where she was getting her resources from. >> it's amazing to think that they can do that from the little that is left. how do they determine that? >> we don't actually know where did she live? we do have a lot of first century archaeology and that's quite rare. we don't have a lot of first century synagogues for us to look at. there are very small coins that you find referred to in the new testament. we can get a sense of what it was like to walk on these roads, cooking and food preparation. what were the major businesses in the area, the fishing industry. maybe that is the kind of business she was involved in. >> how likely is it that this is the synagogue, a synagogue where jesus preached? >> yeah, well, that's difficult to say. the new testament says he

preached in this region in galilee, and there is no reason to make something like this up. it's very possible that jesus was here and he touched these things, which would give this place huge religious significance to christians but it also has great historical significance to archaeologists. >> when you look at the woman who supported jesus financially, there has been such intrigue around her because of what people thought she was or wasn't. you know, what does this do to the perception of her? >> yeah, no matter how much it is said, mary magdeline wasn't married to jesus. and this new focus will hopefully shift the focus from this myth that she was married to jesus to the woman that she actually was which is one of the patrons of jesus and who supported him financially. >> how rare is a find like this? >> extremely rare.

this is a huge historical discovery for everyone, regardless of their religious preference. >> thank you so much. i appreciate it. coming up on cnn, a new episode of the hunt. also this, two week ace go, cnn aired an episode of the hunt which profiled a mother on the run with her 4-year-old daughter. after the episode airs, john walsh's line got a tip and the missing child was returned. you will see the episode that led to that arrest. thank you so much for being with me tonight. remember you can get the latest news any time have a great week.

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