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occurrences. so it's under very close scrutiny. each country itself has their own standards that they use on top of what icao recommends. >> we'll stay on top of it. david, thanks very much. the news continues next on cnn. good morning. i'm ana cabrera. a bomb exploded in a popular tourist area in thailand. take a look at this dash cam ra inside of a car. listen as the bomb goes off. you can see that flash. a car was not injured. a look at the surveillance video
and in the flash is bright orange, chaotic scene followed by people running down the sidewalk. at least 18 people were killed, including chinese tourist. more than 100 were injured. in the heart of bangkok, near a hindu shrine. the timing and location here are key. >> absolutely. as you mentioned, this is in the heart of bangkok. it's an intersection that is incredibly popular amongst locals and tourists. the shrine itself is hugely popular. you mention that it's a hindu shrine but buddhists seek members and hindu members over bangkok's considerable indian community go there to worship and, of course, 7:00 in the evening, people are heading home from work. they want to go and give -- pay their respects at the shrine. they bring flowers, insents.
it's a popular location for people coming from all over the world as well. a major tourist hot spot. ana? >> who or what are behind it? are investigators saying it's terrorism? >> they are calling it a terrorist attack. who is behind it they simply don't know. they don't want to speculate so early on. we've seen a number of attacks in bangkok over the years. but, of course, that's when the military stepped in. last year we had the anti-government protests there. i was there covering both and this was all around this area, ana. it was on lockdown by thousands of security presence since then and last summer we did see a pipe bomb in january this year
and people are saying that was a warning shot that things may escalate and today that is what we've seen in the heart of bangkok. ana? >> reporting in bangkok, thank you so much. 18 people killed. now to politics. who else? donald trump. he's not the most likable republican, according to a poll. most people don't think he won the recent debate. trump is still the top choice for the gop nomination. nationwide fox survey found donald trump fully on top, a commanding lead over the two other anti-establishment republicans. 25%, you can see the ben carsons, and they say he did the worst job in the gop debate and the least likable of the republican candidates. let's talk all about this with
maeve, our national reporter. trump is still on top by a lot. how do you make sense of that? >> what is really interesting is when you actually talk to voters about him, they love the way that they are thinking but once you start digging down with them and asking them what they imagine, when they think of him in the oval office, there are a lot of people that back away a little bit and say, yeah, he's my first choice right now but i'm still looking at all of the other candidates and i'm not sure that i would ultimately vote for him for president. so i think what is important to remember, as we all look at these polls, is that support right now is not that firm. and there are still a lot of other candidates out there who have yet to air commercials, who have yet to show voters really what their background and credentials are. and when you see those guys up against trump and compare their records, voters might be singing
a different tune if you get a few months down the line. >> right. it's still early. a lot of people have not made up their mind. trump released some details, policy details on immigration reform plan. i want to take a quick look at that in addition to that wall he's been saying he wants to build along the mexico border. he also said that he will deport millions of illegal immigrants and he's going to put an end to birthright citizenship on american soil, u.s. citizens. it's part of the constitution. maeve, is he planning to repeal the 14th amendment? >> well, i think that would be a very difficult task that he has ahead of him if he thinks that that's actually something that is realistic and would actually make its way through. that's the thing about donald trump, is that a lot of the details of how you work with congress in washington, what some of these policy changes are required. he doesn't talk about that. this was the most detail that he's put out on any policy that he's talked about so far and, of
course, this is the issue that is really galvanized voters around him. if you think even about the idea of deporting that many people, that is just a massive undertaking. that would be incredibly expensive. >> right. >> no one else has been able to figure out how to do that yet. and down the line when the rubber meets the road, it's a different story. >> what he sees is what he wants to do, what he plans to do but not necessarily what he plans about how to do it. maeve reston, thank you so much. it's not just trump that has people talking. take a look at who else is with him in that top tier. there's trump followed by ben carson and ted cruz. three candidates who have all built their campaigns by criticizing the party establishment. and look who is falling behind. jeb bush down by 9% to 15% in an
earlier fox poll. also slipping in the survey, wisconsin governor scott walker, senator marco rubio. clearly, the establishment candidates are in decline. the outsiders appear to be on the rise. an op-ed columnist, rob, thank you so much for joining us. when you look at this movement and who trump is representing, i mean, all of a sudden gop is the party of populism led by a billionaire. how does that happen? >> well, part of what is interesting about trump, right, is that if you look -- if you dig into his polling numbers and look at who supports him, he isn't just a candidate of the republican party base. so, you know, when we talk about the gop, if we go back to 2012 and look at mitt romney and his various rivals, there's a pretty clear narrative where very conservative voters weren't wild about voting for romney and they went from gingrich to santorum.
with trump, it's a different story. he has a fair amount of support among very conservative republicans but also has a lot of support among self-described moderate republicans. he's got a lot of support for me and the less religious. so he's a distinctive candidate and picking up that real right wing populism but also more of the sort of ross perot radical center, you know, the kind of the voters who aren't deep dive and ideological. >> right. >> if you look at his pitch, what he is trying to do is make a pitch on issues where the establishment in both political parties tend to discount public opinion and immigration is the prime example of that. if you compare how americans feel about immigration to how leaders in washington behave about it, the country is clearly a little bit to the right of washington, d.c., but the same is true on some of the issues he's talking about. he's always harping on trade, right, and talking about how
we're getting a raw deal from our free trade agreement, how we're losing to mexico and china and so on. this is another issue where there's a strong elite consensus and then a lot of americans who don't agree with that consensus and don't feel represented by either party. you could go down the list. he's talking about medicare and social security, for instance, in a way that republicans never talk about. republicans usually talk about reforming those programs. trump is saying don't touch those programs. and that resonates with a slice of republican voters who often depend on medicare and social security. >> he doesn't tip toe on issues. it does seem to have an appeal. i want to ask you about ben carson because he's moved up a lot in the polls. he's number two right now. we haven't been talking about him a whole lot. his style is sort of the anti-trump. he hasn't had a lot of time speaking in front of people, at least on the media stage. didn't say much in the debate but he's in second place. >> yeah. and that's been a surprise for a lot of debate watchers, myself
included, actually, that, you know, if watching the debate as a pundit who knew something about ben carson going in, a lot of people said he didn't get a lot of time to speak. he seemed a little out of his depth and so on. but it seems like he came across to a lot of voters as both very decent and deep and intelligent person and he obviously has a fascinating and inspirational story. i would guess, based on where his appeal has been in the past, that he is getting more -- a more ideological base of support than trump. he's been a big favorite on the conservative speaking circuit. he's been very vocal in attacking president obama and so on. he may be more case study in sort of the more traditional conservative populism as opposed to trump's mix and match, say whatever i feel like kind of thing. >> we'll have to wait and see where this all goes. thanks for your time. >> sure. still ahead, just moments ago, carly fiorina also rising
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another employee was warned of potential performance issues who was just diagnosed with breast cancer and one woman was later considered a problem because colleagues reported she wasn't working hard enough. amazon boss jeff besos did respond to "the new york times" article with a memo he sent to his employees. it reads in parts, "the times" claims our intentional approach is to create a soulless, dystopian workplace where no fun is had and no laughter heard i don't recognize this amazon workplace and i hope you don't either. mark, i know at times you've worked with amazon in sort of a partnership role. you've had students who have gone on to amazon. was this article surprising to you? >> i've found the article completely unacceptable.
i just can't connect the experiences that i've had with amazon and the experiences i've had in the retail industry with the comments that were cited. let me just say this. i started in the business as an executive trainee alongside 37 other people at macy's, then a division of federated. four months in, four people were still employeed. everyone else had either quit or been fired. what became apparent to me is that the retail business is not for everybody. >> and that was a different company. that wasn't amazon. >> that wasn't amazon but it was a high-performance retail business. fast forward to about 2003, i was the chairman and ceo of sears canada. we spent about a year working in teams with groups of people from amazon, mid-to high-level executives on a mutually interesting project. we were quite taken with the talent, professionalism,
toughness but fairness of their folks. now fast forward to today. i've got quite a few of my very best students in the last few years who have gone on to work for amazon. many of them stay in touch and i just haven't heard any complaints. >> no complaints at all? >> well, they talk about how tough of a business it is. >> a lot of hard work. >> but that's kind of the context for the retail represents. >> being a journalist myself, you don't want to take anything out of context. so are you -- do you believe that there's any truth to the "new york times" article? >> well, what is described may or may not be true. in a very large organization, there's always the possibility that someone behaves badly, that someone does the wrong thing. that's unfortunate if, in fact, those characterizations are true. at the end of the day, the article brings to bear that the company's culture is built around this exploitation thesis which i think is completely false. >> where do you draw the line
between toughness and a toxic environment? >> well, toxic environments don't retain talented successful people. amazon is loaded with talented and successful people. although their turnover as been cited as high, that's a characteristic of high-performance companies. >> and not to mention, amazon has some success going for it, when you look at the numbers themselves. they have recently eclipsed walmart in terms of market valuation and they are on track to expand to 50,000 employees in the next three years or so. so they must be doing something right. >> the company didn't exist 20 years ago. the company today is one of the most important, powerful forces, almost a force of nature in the retail industry and in related businesses that they have found, like cloud services. they are going to be an extraordinary paradigm shifter for consumers for the
foreseeable future. they have employed a number of committed people but not all of whom are suited for their business. and we're hearing some complaints which may or may not be grounded in facts that are certainly not, in my view, indicative of the company's culture. >> let me play devil's advocate. we've recently talked about netflix giving unlimited parental leave, for example. and that amazon doesn't give any paid leave, at least to fathers. there does seem to be a conflicting nature of companies and this round of the retail round, the tech world, and netflix is also a thriving company. >> amazon has chosen to be a mean and performance enterprise without perks and benefits of any consequence. their focus has been on building businesses, making them successful. they have chosen that and the
people that join them either buy into that or not. they have chosen not to create an environment loaded with other things like parental -- like child benefits, parental leaves of that sort and they are not requiring people who work for them as a matter of involuntary servitude. so the folks who sign up and are suited for that high-power, high-pressure role, if you will, seem to enjoy every minute of it. the folks who find it less than suitable are folks who tend to leave on their own. >> take it or leave it. >> that's right. >> if you sign up, you know what you're getting into. mark cohen, thank you so much. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> good to have you here. up next, not your average day on jury duty. the republican front-runner donald trump taking a break from campaigning to fulfill his civic duty today in manhattan. now, here's a question.
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donald trump stepped off the campaign trail today checking in instead for jury duty in new york. he was swarmed by the media and the presidential candidate said he's happy to take a break to perform his civic duty. he's been summoned for jury duty in new york five times before but did not show up and one of his advisers telling cnn it's because the jury summons were sent to the wrong address. i want to talk to this with danny cevallos. why would anyone choose trump to be on a jury?
>> it's reading tea leaves. there are general principles. who would want to choose trump for their jury? well, you might think that he would be tough on crime so possibly a prosecutor would want him on the jury. if you're a corporation being sued by one guy who slipped on a banana peel, you might want trump on your jury because he, you might think, would side more with the corporations. but there's one thing that this sort of thought of jury selection over the decades and centuries have used it. it's not reliable. he is very much an academic, attended an ivy league school. he may strictly apply the rule of law and might want him for that reason but there's no real rule hard and fast why you'd keep him off the jury. the smarter jury selection practices are, you read that individual person, you treat them like an individual and you see if there's a connection, if they are the kind of person that
might take your side of the case favorably or not favorably. all of these stereotypes are fraught with peril. >> these high-profile people, though, any reason they wouldn't make a good candidate? for example, this guy has an agenda. >> you might think, if you have an attorney and a client who don't want their story to be out there, maybe they don't want any kind of publicity, you might not want trump on your jury for that reason alone if it's a sensitive matter. but as a general rule, celebrities are human beings subject to jury duty like anybody else. and we've seen it happen before where celebrities make it through that jury selection. they end up on a jury and they end up doing their duty. and again, it just goes to show that jury duty is not just for some of us. it really is for all of us. >> and last question real quick, five times, he got summons, did not show up, says it was sent to the wrong address. is that an excuse? >> the answer is, there's no hard and fast rule. it's up to whatever individual
judge is hearing the contempt hearing or whatever else. they make a determination how full of nonsense is this particular individuals explanation for missing jury duty and it's really all over the place. if he has a good enough excuse, it will fly. if it doesn't, it won't. >> thank you so much, danny cevallos. good to have you here. >> just in to cnn, a democratic source tells us there are concerns inside the white house now. the possible joe biden white house run. hear why and who is against this idea. plus, the search for a missing plane in indonesia has been halted for the day but the airline had many safety violations in the past and was even banned from flying in europe. stay with us. stry, i just put in the name of my parents and my grandparents. i was getting all these leaves and i was going back generation after generation. you start to see documents and you see signatures of people that you've never met. i mean, you don't know these people,
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you see the slogan, donald trump wants to, quote, make america great again. so when was the last time america was great, according to trump? here's what the republican front-runner told nbc's meet the press. >> i would say during the reagan administration, you felt powerful. i don't think since then people have felt proud. there was an excellent tone for this country. >> and trump's admiration for ronald reagan apparently runs deep. the slogan itself is a slight variation from one that reagan himself used in 1980. let's make america great again. joining me now, dan pfeiffer, who used to be a senior adviser to president obama. also, matt lewis from "the daily caller." really, donald trump has to go
back more than 25 years? he's really thrived since 1989. there are a lot of americans who would say that america has that swag ger and sense that reagan comes in and turns the country around. to a lot of folks, what is happening right now, is reminiscent of the late night 1970s. reagan had that slogan but i don't remember reagan harkening back to the 1950s that much. the demographics of america are very different than the 1980s and the challenges that we face economically and internationally are very different.
the part about again is a little more doubling. >> dan, what do you think about this lioninaziton of ronald reagan? >> it's a very unsettled subtext in what donald trump says. it's one thing to say america wasn't great when bill clinton was president or barack obama was president if you're running for the republican nomination. but he's skipping over 12 years of republican presidents. >> right. >> with the last name of bush. >> of bush. and now jeb bush. he's a competitor. >> right. that's exactly right. i think matt is right. nostalgia campaigns don't go very far. trump is in danger of seeming too nostalgic and he's going to have to do more if he wants to hold on the momentum that he has in the nomination. >> and at that point, dan, do you think that that is exactly why he didn't bring up the bush
years, because right now george w. bush, his foreign policy has been under scrutiny? >> look. i think conservatives and republicans, george w. bush, maybe history will remember him more kindly. but i think ronald reagan, still, is who you harken back to if you want to harken back. but no, sstalgia is not the pla you want to be. i wonder how it translates and for a younger generation, i don't remember ronald reagan even, as amazing as that sounds. >> let's focus in, then. matt, donald trump said that he watches the shows, like the sunday shows for military advice. i assume he means the news
program. i watch them to get research on what is happening in the world. but if you're going to be the president and commander in chief, is that enough? >> oh, my heavens. it's so fun to talk about donald trump. in fairness, he talked about ambassador bolton. i'm not saying you have to be a career politician to be president but having gotten elected to something, having served in public service i think helps. conservatives have a very good reason to be concerned about this. he recently said he wouldn't fund planned parenthood and one of his defenders ann coulter dismissed this faux pas explaining, he's not a politician. it helps if you're a politician. you know how the world works. >> dan, should voters be
concerned of trump presidential position that relies on the news program and what did you hear from the military experts to form his foreign policy? >> absolutely. i think voters should be troubled by the entire donald trump thing. it is ridiculous to the extreme. but he has found a way to c consolidate a quarter and he turns out that he's better at politics than anyone else running for the nomination. and he makes stumbles here and there, like saying an absurd thing that he gets his military advice from chuck todd and jake tapper but somehow he's able to turn these gaffes into proof. and the problem for answering this question for republicans is what jeb bush has seen, which is, you don't want to be associated with the iraq war and
all of the advisers, like paul wolfowitz. >> i want to ask, before we go, dan, there's been a lot of speculation and rumors floating around about a potential joe biden presidential run and now we're hearing from a democratic party source here at cnn that there's concern in the white house about the vice president possibly running for president because maybe there's concern about a campaign and things that go with it. is that what you're hearing from your folks? >> no. what i'm hearing is that the vice president has more than earned the right to run if he decides he wants to do that. i think people have tremendous affection and loyalty from the president on down. they want what is best for him but he's got to make his personal decision and the white
house would take the role as a white house does in a divided primary, which is they don't endorse. so obviously it puts people in the white house in a challenging position because a lot of people are close and friendly with secretary clinton and joe biden. this wouldn't be the first time in history that this has happened. >> there is always risk and it may not turn out well. if he had a campaign and it didn't go well, it would affect that. he's got to decide what he wants to do and what he thinks is in the best interest of himself and his country. >> as advisers have said, october 1st should be the cutoff to make that decision. thank you for your time today. >> thank you. >> appreciate it. we have breaking news about hillary clinton's state department e-mails.
pamela brown is gathering information for us. what can you tell snus. >> on review of hillary clinton's e-mails from her private server identified 305 documents that had been referred to as various intelligence agencies to determine whether the contents in those documents are, in fact, classified. this is in a court filing today by the state department and it says out of a sample of 20% of e-mails, they have only recommended approximately 5.1% for referral for their agency for consultation. and they contain classified information and this comes a the a time when the fbi is investigating the security of hillary clinton's private security. 30,000 plus e-mail work e-mails and sent through that server and the fbi is really focused right now on determining whether any
potentially classified information may have been compromised and we recall the intelligence committee found two classified e-mails among the work-related e-mails. hillary clinton has repeatedly said that she did not send or receive classified information through her personal server. over the weekend, ana, she defended herself and said, look, this is not about the e-mails. this is about politics. ana? >> pamela brown in washington for us, thank you. coming up, straight outta compton. why is this film resonating so much today. we'll discuss.
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the search for a missing passenger jet in indonesia has been called off for the day as crews spotted debris from the plane just before bad weather forced them to abandon the search. the trigana air flight crashed and for this airline, trigana, before yesterday's crash, it had 19 serious safety incidents in just the last 23 years. it's a small airline. to talk more about this, cnn aviation correspondent richard quest. thank you so much, richard. good to have you here. fill us in on the investigation to this crash. >> very early on they spotted the first wreckage but this is
mountainous territory. the weather is currently bad. the one thing you don't want is to make a bad situation worse by endangering those who have got to be part of the search and recovery. they are going to take their time but they have seen the wreckage. we're a long way from finding out what the cause may be. there's a variety of possibilities. mechanical failure leading to loss of control and then crashing into the ground. possibly weather played a part of it. possibly simply the pilots dealing with too much at the time and suddenly they hit the mountain. >> we talked about 19 serious safety incidents since 1992 for this particular airline. why is this airline still operating? >> a very good question. one that the indonesian regulators will have to answer. this airline was banned from flying to the european union. it was a small airline. it only had just over a dozen
planes and it had 19 incidents. serious incidents. and those incidents, if you delve into them, they were to do with bad maintenance, poor pilot errors of judgment, they were to do with complete incompetence in many ways. when asked the question, why was this airline still being allowed to operate by the indonesian regulators, they have the same number of incidents as you would get from one of the major u.s. carriers and they have hundreds upon hundreds of planes and tens of millions of passengers. >> and thousands and thousands of flights. >> hundreds and hundreds of flights in the same period. >> so with this airline -- >> this airline was a mischief. it was a nuisance to aviation. >> and such a tragic situation in this recent crash.
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. the first major studio film about a group of hip-hop artists taking hollywood by storm, "straight outta compton" broke box office records. breaking in more than 60 million in its opening weekend. >> hit that first beat hard. you're cruising down the street. >> all right. ♪ ♪ cruising down the street >> hey, that was dope. >> compton's very own ice cube.
>> eazy-e and dr. dre. you are witnessing history. >> you have a unique voice. the world needs to hear it. >> they want n.w.a., let's give them n.w.a. ♪ >> n.w.a., known for provocative songs about inner city lives, two of the biggest stars, ice cube and dr. dre. critics say the movie glorifies the controversial group and omits its past, particularly the treatment of women. joining me is political and social commentator kevin powell, author of "a boy's journey into manhood" and buzz feed entertainment reporter kelly. n.w.a. was the original face of it. kelly, what do you make of those numbers? what does it say about the
movie's resonance? >> i think it's interesting. you know, the same critics who probably panned this group 27 years ago are champing their biography which speaks to their dominance in the culture. ice cube and dr. dre have become major moguls in television and music and their presence is undeniable and to see the origin story of them is interesting and audiences couldn't get enough of it. >> is that what you think, kevin? is that why people are so drawn to this movie because of its stars? >> well, that and the hip-hop -- you have to be honest as americans, hip-hop is the dominant culture in this country and on this planet in the last 45 years. it's been the number one album, dr. dre created, about alexander
hamilton created by a writer immersed in hip-hop culture. when i saw "straight outta compton," black, white, latino, asian, every generation was there. that's very different than when this film came out. this culture belongs to everyone. that's why this film is so popular. >> critics, including you, have criticized the fact that the movie doesn't really get into some of the more i guess dark history of these groups and these people. the lyrics, treatment of women and instead, "straight outta compton" glorifies its music and the stars. why do you think that was left out? >> you know, i say it on my blog on my facebook page. the film just very eloquently and powerfully deals with the issue of race and racial profiling correlates with the issues today. dr. dre and ice cube and the
director did not see it fit to talk about the savage beating of dee barnes and the lyrics that depict women in very despicable way. just like racism is alive and well in this country, so is sexism. it would have been a great film if it had the courage to deal with that but it did not. >> i see you shaking your head, kelly. >> i agree. i think it's important to note that the culture of gangster rap was a very comfortable space for rape culture and homophobic slurs to exist. i don't think that we really challenged the group at the time they were making this music to really -- to really address those issues. i think that, you know, as much as great things as they did with their music -- and they did a lot of great things. they shed a lot on what is was happening in urban neighborhoods that people weren't acutely aware of.
we didn't really take them to task, i think, in a national conversation the way we probably should have. >> and kevin, "straight outta compton" comes amid this black lives matter movement. it bolsters the fact that policing tactics and the relationships that ignited n.w.a.'s rise, they remain emblematic today. >> ice cube was 19, 20 years old when he wrote the song "after the police" and that's remained the anthem today. the rodney king beating was 24 years ago. we now have a black president in the white house but still there are things that have not changed. there are things in the film that are relevant and powerful. i can't dispute the fact that this film wasn't important. i hope people see it as a place as a starting point about grace and gender issues and gender violence and not a film that we get caught up in the trend of and the context disappears.
>> maybe that's resonating so much because of the key issues we're talking about today in the news cycle and on the street. kelly powell and kevin carter, thank you so much. glad to have you. top of the hour, thanks for rolling in to the 3:00 eastern hour with me. i'm ana cabrera. in bangkok, island, a bomb hit the area known as the times square of thailand. you can see the flash of that blast, the sparks flying, caught on camera from inside a car that was stuck in traffic there. fortunately, the person inside that car was not injured. and now this video from a surveillance camera at a sidewalk level capturing that same explosion, different angle there. police say at least 18 people were killed, tourists and 117 are injured. those numbers are still rising.
this happened in the heart of bangkok near a popular hindu shrine during rush hour. let's bring in our reporter. what's the latest on this investigation? >> reporter: yeah, absolutely, ana. striking, as you say, at the heart of bangkok, thailand. this location, incredibly popular with tourists from right around the world. people coming from the united states and chinese making up the most tourists coming there. this is a central location. it's a shrine that is dedicated to a hindu god but visited by the sheik community. it's a major attraction and that's why, of course, thailand's military-run government is going to focus on why this was targeted. of course, one of the reasons is it was incredibly popular area.
ana, i live in bangkok and i've covered this area during the protests last year. thousands of people have this area on lockdown but never before has this shrine been located. thailand's military has a lot to think about. >> we have more breaking news about hillary clinton's state department e-mails. fill us in. >> we've learned that 305 documents have been referred to various intelligence agencies for consultation basically to determine whether the contents are classified. this comes after viewers from
five different agencies join the review process at the state department of clinton's e-mails. here's what the court filing says. as of a sample of approximately 20% of clinton's e-mails, the intelligence community reviewers have only recommended 305 documents. approximately 5.1% for referral for their agencies for consultation. so this is an update for a federal judge on review efforts in response to a freedom of information act lawsuit. hillary clinton has denied sending or receiving information marked as classified through her personal server and this is what she said over the weekend in spobs to the controversy. >> it's not about e-mails or servers either. i will do my part to provide transparency to americans. that's why i've insisted 65,000 pages of my e-mails be published as soon as possible. i've even offered to answer
months before. >> the 305 e-mails contain classified information but it comes at a time when the fbi is investigating the security of hillary clinton's private server she kept at her home in new york after the inspector general identified two e-mails among a sample of 40 e-mails that should have been marked top secret. >> so what would make them flagable? >> well, it depends. there's certain criteria as far as what is classified and what is not. it really depends on the agency depending on what they consider classified and what their rules and regulations are in terms of that. so what will happen now, these 305 e-mails will go back to certain intelligent agencies. they will review the e-mails to see, if, in fact, it meets the threshold of being classified, sensitive information. so that is what is happening
right now, according to this court filing. ana? >> thanks for the clarification, pamela brown. we appreciate it. with me to discuss further, political director dave and maeve. clinton's e-mails just a preliminary screening we're talking about right now. we don't know for sure that these 305 e-mails are in violation of any of the rules. the clinton campaign has been fighting any assumption that she had any classified information on her private server. clearly, this is something that is not going away for clinton. >> that's right. what she says now as often as she's asked is that she didn't knowingly receive or send any classified information at the time it was marked classified. there's nothing to suggest that that is not the case yet. we've seen no evidence that that's not the case, even if the 305 e-mails are now being looked at. you've raised a larger point, ana, which is that secretary
clinton was at the united nations before she launched her campaign and had an entire press conference. this is back in march, about her e-mails. we are five months later and just this weekend i was in iowa with her and she held a press availability, still answering questions about her e-mails. this is a story that has dogged her the entire campaign thus far and because of the drip nature of it, more e-mails to come out and be classified, it's not going away. they are not going to be able to put to bed this story, which is why you see hillary clinton doing what she did in that clip that pamela just played, which is sort of make it into a partisan brawl. >> right. >> instead of actually debating the substance of it. >> and maeve, we know that she's suffering from this e-mail scandal of sort when you look at the poll numbers and when it comes to trustworthiness or honesty, bernie sanders outnumbers her in that area. on a larger scale, could that end up being her demise?
>> i think we'll have to wait and see but david and i were both out at the iowa state fair talking to a lot of voters and what our entire team was hearing is that they just really -- voters don't like this messiness on the side. i don't know that they are digging in to, you know, what percentage of the e-mails are at issue here, et cetera, but it comes back to this perception of the clintons that the rules don't apply to them, that they talk in legal e's and seem to do things different. that's not what voters are looking for right now in politics. that's why someone who is like bernie sanders who is rough and raw coming off a lot better. the voters are not liking sort of the slickness of politics and they are looking for someone who they feel they can connect with in that respect. i think also that's why trump is doing well on the republican side. so it could really end up being a problem for her for a long time because it does contribute to this larger image problem for
her. >> sure. while she's still leading the polls, one other person who has been on the docket, so to speak, is joe biden who is not even in the race yet. he's polling number three right now. and now we're hearing from a source telling jim acosta that there appears to be little enthusiasm for a biden candidacy in the white house. why the hesitation, david? >> well, i think that there is some concern inside the west wing and throughout the administration that a joe biden presidential run will tarnish the sort of statesman-like image which has been a boost for the administration because he and the president have grown into a very close relationship and he has a very real job inside the white house. and i think that there's concern that when you go from, you know, a position like vice president into presidential candidate, you immediately sort of get in the mud and that may not reflect well on the administration. so i think that that is a
concern that they have inside there. i don't think it necessarily has anything to do with how joe biden will make this decision. >> and you don't think it has to do with being torn in terms of who they are going to support since hillary clinton is already in the race? >> no. i mean -- >> go ahead, maeve. >> that's going to get really messy. obviously the white house doesn't want to be in the middle of that fight. i think we have to remember here that, you know, hillary clinton went forward with obama's stamp of approval but joe biden has done a lot for president obama over the years and if he is looking at this, he may really feel like this is his time and this is the moment that he wants to step into the fray. clinton has a lot of vulnerabilities there. joe biden is very good at talking to the blue collar middle-class voters who seem to be attracted to trump's message and that could be a really interesting dynamic in the presidential race.
>> lots of months to figure it all out. maeve reston and dave chalian, thank you. not your typical day on jury duty. donald trump is waiting in court to see if he'll be picked for a jury. but it's his stance on immigration that is once again making big headlines. trump saying he plans to throw out the 14th amendment and end birthright citizenship. we'll discuss that. also, amazon firing back. the head of the retail giant responding to a scathing "new york times" article. how the company is responding. plus, should kids get a trophy for just participating even if they don't win? an nfl player is getting a lot of attention for saying no way. that's ahead. and the next thing i know it's morning. with tempur-flex you've got the spring and bounce
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trump is still dominating the polls. and the headlines. he's promising big changes on immigration policy. a new nationwide poll gives trump a commanding lead. he has 25% support. ben carson has 12% and senator ted cruz follows that with 10%. this is in spite of the fact that more people said trump did the worst job in the recent gop debate. he's also seen as the least likable of the republican hopefuls. trump is also promoting new details from his immigration reform plan and he wants to build that wall we've heard so much about, plus cut grants to sanctuary cities and deport millions of people living in the u.s. illegally. >> we have to make a whole new set of standards. when people come in to -- >> you're going to split up families and deport -- >> chuck, we're going to keep the families together. we have to keep the families together but they have to go. >> you're going to kick them out?
>> they have to go. >> what if they have no place to go? >> we will work with them. chuck, we either have a country or we don't have a country. >> beyond that, it's trump's new plan to redefine who can and cannot be a citizen that's making real headlines. he wants to end birthright citizenship, allowing a child born on u.s. soil, regardless of their parents' immigration status, to automatically be considered a u.s. citizen. i want to bring in rafael romo. the citizenship policy has been in place since 1800s when the 14th amendment was added to the constitution. trump is talking about changing the constitution? >> that's exactly right. let's leave politics aside for a moment to talk about the practicality of trying to do something like that. it would require a vote of two-thirds of both the house and senate in addition to three-quarters of all state legislatures. we're talking about 38 states that would have to do that. can you imagine, ana, the kind
of political capital that a president would need to do something like that when the nation is going through so many issues? the amount of political capital that it would take to convince the entire nation to do something like that. the other thing about this is, what about comprehensive immigration reform. there have been proposals from both democrats and republicans that aim at tackling this problem. and most everybody i know agrees that the immigration system in this country is broken. the difference is people have different ideas on how to fix it. but going against the constitution, trying to change it definitely seems like a very, very difficult task, ana. >> you'll wonder how it's going to play with hispanic voters and we know gop has struggled with the minority vote over the last couple of elections. let's just pivot here and talk about that wall that trump plans to build. curious how mexico is reacting to paying for this wall.
>> mexican officials have really not reacted in a very public way about this but there were recently comments made by the spokesman for and what he told bloomberg essentially is that they are not really taking donald trump seriously. and let me read to you what he said in that interview. he said it reflects an enormous ignorance for what mexico represents and also an irresponsibility for the candidate who is saying it. the other issue here is what people on the street in mexico are saying about this. and i don't mean to make light of a very serious issue but people say give me a 20-foot fence and i'll give you a 21-foot ladder. that's what people say in mexico about this issue, ana. >> brushing it aside saying it's not going to make a difference. rafael romo, thanks so much. trump is taking a break from his
campaign today. he showed up at a new york courthouse for jury duty. take a look at donald trump sitting in court waiting to see if he'll be picked for jury duty. this picture is making its rounds on social media. trump has been summoned five other times before but he didn't show up. one of his advisers telling cnn that those past absences were because the jury summons were sent to the wrong address. this all follows a big weekend for trump. he was one of several candidates to make a stop at the iowa state fair and got into an interesting exchange with reporters over why he's waited until now to release detailed policy plans. >> a lot of voters say they want to see your substance. >> i think the press is more eager to see it than the voters. i think the voters like me. they understand me. they know i'm going to do the
job. when you put out policy like a 14-point plan, a lot of times in the first hour of negotiation that 14-point plan goes astray but he may end up with a et abouter deal. that's the way it works. when i do a deal, i don't say here's 14 points. i go out and do it. i don't sit down and talk about 14 points. but i know the press wants it. i don't think the people care. i think they trust me. i think they know i'm going to make good deals for them. >> let's talk more about those remarks and his analysis of american voters with the political reporter for "the washington post." you wrote about trumps comments in an article on "the post" that is insightful. what did you think about his comments? is he sort of onto something? >> yeah. one of the things that trump has going for him, he can say whatever he wants to say. it's been proven repeatedly. people reward him for it. what he said is something that politicians shouldn't say, that no one cares about policy.
there's a truth to that. when voters are making decisions about elected officials, they weigh personality a lot. they don't spend a lot of time driving into what a policy says before they make their decisions. >> so it's more of an emotional attachment to a candidate versus the facts and figures? >> yes. obviously all of us think, how does he stand on this, on that? we look at it at a very superficial level. most people don't know what is in obamacare. it's one of the most riveting pieces of legislation in history. there's so much detail to it, we don't have time for that. that's why we have political parties. >> so much has been said about trump being unlike other candidates. >> right. >> because he isn't a politician. but he's a billionaire. how is he relating to the average joe? >> he's doing a great job of it simply by not being a politician. people sort of get tired of having politicians hem and haw
and say here's how i feel about this, how i feel about that, having very calculated positions on things and trump's strategy has been -- the most telling is in the interview with chuck todd. he didn't really care that much. you don't want a president who doesn't care about these things but it's totally fair that most of us don't have an opinion on what ukraine should be doing, whether it's in nato or not. >> and that's how he connects, i don't care about that, for someone sitting at home. >> yes. >> what about social media and how that is playing in this campaign. it seems like these candidates have a chance to maybe show another side of themselves and connecting with voters where voters are. >> right. a lot of them do a terrible job at it. if you look at social media, most of these 2016 candidates are saying read my plan. and trump says my opponent is a jerk because of x.
>> and people like that. >> yeah. people are into that. they think it's interesting. >> does it provide authenticity? >> absolutely. it reinforces the idea that trump will say what he wants to say and his entire argument is people will trust me because i am legit. i present myself the way that i am and i will lead the country that way. that doesn't work with everybody. he may have plateaued from the republican party. democrats look at him very negatively. i'm not sure this is a great strategy. >> good conversation. thanks for being on. good to have you. up next, employees crying at their desk and answering e-mails around the clock. that's what it is like at amazon according to some former workers. how amazon is responding to the e-mails, ex. plus, talking about what he might do after being president. straight ahead, the stories from the people who are at that party.
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drones and ordering buttons in your home, it's part of amazon's great success this past year but at what cost for its employees? a scathing "new york times" article saying that employees describe themselves as amabots and there is a cut-throat competitiveness so brutal that one former employee said, "nearly every person i worked with i saw cry at their desk." employees were asked to send anonymous evaluations to their bosses and at the end would get rid of the worst of the worst. kristina alesci is joining me. what are some of the other
allegations? >> that amazon pushed out workers who took time off for medical reasons like miscarri e miscarriages. that is really awful. amazon is known for having a tough culture. as part of its very public principles, it says frugality is a value that it really is high on the list of things that bezos wants to instill in employees. that's not a surprise, that he operates things on a very tight margin. this is a company that really doesn't have profits. some quarters it doesn't report profits. it's really emblematic of how tough it is to operate in silicon valley and, more specifically, e-commerce. retail is very tough. so the question becomes, is this syst
systemic or abuse or just a single issue. "the new york times" says, look, we interviewed 100 current and former employees. it's not an isolated incident kind of scenario. that's what "the new york times" are saying. >> there were, in all fairness, employees who deefended amazon that there is a motivation to be the best of the best and to some degree you work so hard but at the end you are rewarded. >> that's right. and i know jeff bezos is saying it's not the amazon that he had sought to create. >> yes. he issued a statement saying, "the times claims that our intentional approach is to create a dystopian workplace where no fun is had and no laughter. i don't recognize this amazon and i very much hope you don't either. i strongly believe that anyone
working in a company that really is like that the one described in the nyt would be crazy to stay. i know i would leave a company like that." he said if anything close like that has happened in their personal stories, he encourages them to report it to hr or to him and make as nuance point about the talent war that goes on at tech companies and he said, you know, talent is really hard to come by. so if we treated people really badly, we'd never be able to hire the best talent. >> the rumors would get around. mark cohen said he sent some of his best and brightest students from columbia and he hasn't heard a complaint. that speaks to a larger truth there. before i let you go, there's new information about the irs data breach? >> that's right. the irs is saying there's more
people that were affected by the data breach. double the amount of the previous number. it was 104,000 and now we're up to 220,000 and the irs will let those that were affected, it will reach out and let them know about it. >> good. christine alesci, thank you so much. >> thank you. president obama is talking about what he's going to do after the white house. what was discussed at a late-night dinner party? next. plus, a star says he made his kids give back the trophies that they got for just participating. not everyone agrees with his approach. that debate straight ahead.
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president obama can be the life of the party, even in the dead of night, apparently. when a guest wanted to leave during a recent gathering around midnight, the commands der er if got him and others to stay way past 2:00 a.m. he was seeking advice from a who's who from the rich and the famous and super smart. these seven people were among the guests, including a writer, eva longoria and reid hoffman. gardener harris is joining us. dinners going past midnight? this doesn't sound like a man who is burned out after seven years in the office. >> i think as the years go on,
he seems to be relaxing that much more. you didn't say, ana, but we've got details in here about his choice of drink. he's a martini drinker. he likes it very dry with vodka. a he these dinners go on, as you said, very late into the night. they are talking, to some he n extent, what he'll be doing after the presidency. he's letting them talk and listen and he's been doing this now for some time. >> and in your article, you talk about part of that vision after the presidency and he's focused on making his library the most futuristic or tech savvy presidential library ever. how is he going to do that? >> that's exactly right. you have to take him at his word that in some months after the presidency he's going to be hitting on a beach drinking out of coconuts. then he'll probably write a
book. he's written two. the rumors are he'll make as much as $20 million from some publisher to write a book. after that, he's one of the youngest ex-presidents in history. he's going to have, hopefully, a very long life. how does he spend it? and the questions are sort of myriad. is he as public as bill clinton or as private as george bush? does he base his life out of his presidential library, say, as jimmy carter has with the carter center or sort of build a library and have a very separate life from the library as bill clinton has done? so his questions for these gatherings and these dinnertimes and, you know, they include stev steven spielberg, the tech millionaires when he's up in san francisco. he's asking a lot of very smart people with a lot of money who, by the way, can help him fund this post presidency lifestyle, what their ideas are. >> it sounds like he has a
pretty ambitious fundraising plan. >> he does. everybody is sort of talking about he needs at least $800 million but that's -- they are really talking about a floor, not a ceiling. i mean, again, lessons learned. bill clinton raised $500 million for his library and then only later really started fundraising for his foundation. and one of the reasons that hillary clinton has had some controversy is that he has continued to go out and raise big money from some less than savory characters sometimes and that need to fund his foundation has just continued for him. so everybody is sort of saying essentially that he wants to raises much money as he needs very early on when people still know him and love him so that all of that later stuff doesn't really have to happen. >> maybe he can cruise into retirement in some way.
gardener harris -- >> don't we all want that? >> i know. thank you for pulling back the ku curtain for us. speaking of the white house, republican's top choice to fill the seat should maybe wear a cap along with that cap. because donald trump is apparently batman. yes. that's what he told a 9-year-old boy from iowa who rode on his helicopter this weekend at the iowa state fair. >> mr. trump? >> yes. >> are you batman? >> i am batman. >> that's pretty cute, actually. my colleague, john bettrman, asd someone about that claim today. >> donald trump told the child this weekend that he is batman. chuck, can you confirm to us that donald trump is batman? >> well, i don't think i can confirm it but it certainly connects a few dots.
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james harrison told the world on instagram he was sending back athletic trophies awarded to his sons. why? because he says they didn't earn them. harrison said, came home to find out my boys received two trophies for nothing, participation propart trove teas and while i will encourage them until the day i die, these trophies will be given back until they earn a trophy. not about to raise two boys to making them believe that they are entitled to something unless they earned it. joining me, a clinical psychology kenneth and ashley merriman, author, "the science of winning and losing." ashley, i'll start with you. was james harrison wrong to reject those trophies? you say no. >> no, i don't think so.
i mean, we weren't at the house, right, so i'm presuming he had a conversation with his kids and explained that we want to give kids trophies when they earn them, and not just simply for showing up and participating, for showing meaningful effort and growth. >> professor, what do you think? can trophies just for participation lead to a sense of entitlement? >> i haven't found that kids develop a sense of entitlement. they are 6 and 8 years old. i disagree with harrison. they earned those trophies not only by showing up but by working hard. the trophies are a form of that. >> but in real life you could argue that not all are created equal and when you do the best and really shine, that those people deserve the trophies. >> well, but winning isn't everything. there are a lot of good things
that kids do that we should encourage and recognize, including being part of a team, making a contribution to a team, developing character and, again, effort. it's not all about wentiinning losing. >> on that note, i want to play you both something. this is from major league baseball hall of famer where he encouraged parents to let their kids have fun. >> know that your children's passion and desire to play baseball is something they can do without a competitive pitch. every throw a kid makes today is a competitive pitch. they don't go outside. they don't have fun. they don't throw enough but they are competing and maxing out too hard, too early and that's why we are having these problems. so please, take care of those great future arms. >> ashley, are parents putting too much importance on competition and winning? >> well, i want to back up for a second. i respect the professor's work but the assumption was that the kids actually did work hard and
the point of a participation trophy is that you get it regardless of your effort. you don't even have to show up for practice for games. we're still giving you the same exact award. and i'm not good turning every kid's activities into "the hunger games." i spotlightly agree that parents are doing too early specialization of sports, but they're not giving kids that chance, hey, let's just play. no, everyone comes home with a trophy. the message isn't we're just playing and learning. message is you must always be a winner. that's why i want to stop giving everybody a trophy. hey, you lost, no big deal, we'll try again next week. i don't care if you won or lost. did you learn? did you improve? did you grow? that's what's important. that's what will motivate kids to continue, the rest of their
lifetime. not focus on outcome, with you growth. >> professor, do you agree? >> yes, i agree with that. i'm not sure i really disagree with ashley about that. it's important them to work hard, be part of a team, to learn that there are a lot of important thing, and i agree with john smoltz, there is too much competition. and that is not the way it should be. >> ashley, back to the initial question. is there to which emphasis on the importance of winning? >> i would rather no one get a trophy than everyone get a trophy. it's the message that you must always win. i think kids need the time, hey, we don't keep scores. whether you're 6 or 60, novices need time to learn hose to do something and not like they're being judged. a trophy, even if everyone gets
it is still a judgment. it's still we're watching you, you're worthy. i want kids to have that time to learn and who the professor was saying in earlier in terms of character, i have no problem telling kids at the beginning i give a trophy for the best, i give a trophy for the most improved and for the person with the best character. if you stay extra, and i help your other teammates, that's more important than any other outcome. i think that gives them the what's the goal?et a goal, - be a good person? that's what i want to work on? great. but it's letting kids decide what's important, and not saying here's what you're doing and here's the trophy no matter what actually happened. >> thanks to both of you. definitely a tough one for parents. we all want to do what, you can
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commitment. actually they chose nobody. we were one of those lucky days where they chose nobody. >> ready to come back tomorrow? >> i think six years. >> donald trump moments ago leaving jury duty. we'll have more. but first a new twist on what's already been a curvy story, an extramarital affair, and a huge effort to conceal it. at the center todd forcer and cindy gamete. the tryst came to the public attention after a complicated -- according a male proust ties story was fabricated. the newest twist when a forme aide spoke out for the first time, calling both disrespectful to staff. listen, as he describes what he
witnessed. >> they frequently greeted each other with what appeared to be long, romantic, highly personal hugs and embraces. mr. courser would obvious meet -- upon seeing him, representative gamrat would -- >> courser was frequently out of his office, and do work december representative courser often told representative gamrat how beautiful she was that day. >> that was joshua cline, coming after a weekend of confessions late friday afternoon, when representative gamrat apologizing with her husband at her side. on saturday courser took to facebook, nearly a
2,000-scripture-laden apology and confession. so far both lawmakers say they intend to stay on the job. on that heap know, that will do it for me. john berman is in for jake tapper, i'm ana cabrera. "the lead" starts right now. \s donald trump said hys he's batman. this is "the lead." the 308 tick lead -- donald trump soaring, crushing the field, and leading the outsiders in the front to the gop race in a brand-new poll, so what happened to the guys who were supposed to be on stop? the world lead -- propaganda machine in overdrive. north korea warning the united states it will attack with invincible power. this is the same country that would have you believe their dear leader doesn't go to the bathroom. how seriously should the pentagon be taking this threat? the national lead, accusati