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to develop. she had a dream. her parents contacted the university. engineering students made her a hand. >> haley through out the first pitch at the orioles game with her new hand. good stuff. impressed? say nothing. >> time for "newsroom" with carol costello on friday. it's friday. >> whoohoo, my favorite day of the week. "newsroom" starts now. happening now on the "newsroom," full battle ready. kim jong un puts north korea in a semiwar state an exchange of fire at the border. is war on the horizon? also -- >> you know they're calling it the summer of trump. >> trump expects a stadium sized crowd in alabama today. two word are the talk of the campaign trail. >> i'll use the word anchor
baby. >> and trump isn't the only one using them. >> do you regret using the term anchor baby yesterday on the radio. >> no, i don't. >> is bush sounding more and more like trump? plus -- >> this is an unprecedented in our state. >> firefighters killed in the line of duty. this morni ing the state is askg residents for help. let's talk, live in the cnn "newsroom." good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. he may be the most unpredictable and dangerous dictator in the world. kim jong un has his troops braced for war. he held an emergency meeting with military leaders and ordered front line troops to ramp up to a wartime state.
south korea, home to some 2,000, u.s. troops is rolling out barricades and going on high alert. emotions also running high. this is a rally in south korea's capital condemning this latest saber rattling from their hostile neighbor and worrying that this time the threats are more ominous. let's begin with you and the situation from your vantage point. >> reporter: south korea's defense ministry is saying it is prepared for anything now from north korea. it says that it will not stop the propaganda broadcasts that north korea has demanded that it cease. now, because of that, it's saying that there's the high probability that north korea will attack speakers along the border tomorrow. south korea has been using these speakers to broadcast anti-north
korean messages into north korea. this is something that makes the regime of kim jong un extremely angry. he likes to control of the communications that go on inside north korea. this is the place where it is considered treason to say anything bad about the regime. the messages are saying that the regime is doing a bad job and telling people in north korea what kim jong un doesn't want them to hear. >> let's look quickly at how we got to this point. two weeks ago two south korean soldiers were injured by land mines planted in the dmz. north korea denied planting those land mines. south korea blareed propaganda from loudspeakers. >> north korea opened its front
line troops to enter a semi-wartime state. as we mentioned, 28,000 u.s. troops are stationed in south korea. so the pentagon is closely monitoring the situation. for more on that, let's head to the pentagon and barbara starr. >> reporter: tensions are spiking. rhetoric is spiking. but for the u.s., they are going to continue now with some exercises, military exercises they're doing with the south koreans that will run through the end of the month, sending the message they're not going to be warned off by the north. one of the key things here is for the u.s. to figure out what the north koreans are up to. is there real evidence that their troop versus gone on this war footing that kim jong un is talking about? look, north korea maintains thousands of troops near the dmz, artillery, weapons. they are capable of breaking the
a -- the u.s. looking for any signs that troops are actually on the move, ramped up, more ready to attack. do they have food, fuel, ammunition resupply at the ready? the north koreans have a couple of see advantakey advantages. they are very close to seoul. they are masters of deception. they have underground bunkers where they can roll out weapons very quickly and put them into the launch position. all eyes on north korea. but trying to figure out what the difference is between the rhetoric, the political theater, if you will, and the reality on the ground. >> thank you. the missouri man shot and killed by police this week died from a single gunshot in the back. this according to the st. louis post dispatch.
two officers fired at mansur ball-bey after he pointed a hang g handgun at them. >> reporter: we know officers fired four shots, one of them hitting the 18-year-old in the back. we saw just a few nights ago the fact that people took to the streets with violent protests at one point, setting things on fire. in fact, they set a building on fire. they set a car on fire. everyone wants to know what's going to happen next, especially after bricks and water bottles were thrown toward police officers. there was a gun involved and he was running and pointing it toward the officers and they opened fire. the police chief spoke about that a few days ago. >> police work is difficult. split second decisions are made. officers come to work every day wanting to do the best job they can for their community.
but it weighs heavy on them. the look that i saw on the two officers yesterday after they were involved in this incident, it was, if i could describe it, as they were concerned. not for themselves but for what was going to happen in the community. they could see this coming. we have to be better as a city. we have to be better as a community and come together and work on our problems together. work on our issues together. >> reporter: tlopolice say he ha gun and was running away from them and even pointed toward them. they opened fire. there's not a lot of trust between the community and police. now you can understand why people are waiting to see what happens next. > flags flying at half staff in the small town of twisp,
washington where three firefighters lost their lives while fighting one of the state's huge wildfires. a line of emergency vehicles escorting the bodies to a local funeral home. they were part of a team that is often first of the the scene. the parents of one of the firefighters speaking out after losing their only child. >> he was the light of our life. we would give anything to have yesterday not happen. we had one week to go. he was going back to school next week. i just want people to know what a wonderful person he was, how bad we feel about it all. >> the governor echoed that sentiment, saying the men always will be remembered as big heros protecting small towns. chad myers has more from atlanta. >> reporter: 390,000 acres in washington state have burned so far this year. now, on average we should be around 250,000. so not double, but certainly
more than normal. everyone that you see here -- i can make that a little bit bigger here. you can see every one of those dots is a major fire, over 60 in the northwest. let's zoom into the twisp fire right here. near beaver lake. there are so many hot spots. every little dot is a satellite indicated hot spot here. and that is just one of many, many fires still going on across the area. and the problem is, it's going to get windy again. we had the same problem last friday and saturday where the wind picked up as a storm came in. and then storm goes by tomorrow and will start to calm things down but shift the wind to the other direction. that's kind of good. you think it will blow the fire back on areas that have already burned. but the firefighters need to know when that wind shift is going to occur so they can get ready for that, the fire
changing direction, the smoke charging back at them from another direction. winds picking up to 20 or 30 miles per hour. finally, by tomorrow afternoon the wind are in montana and parts of wyoming and colorado. but there are big fire there is as well. so firefighters have their hands full in a drought stricken western united states. still to come on the "newsroom," donald trump and jeb bush refusing to dump the term anchor babies when talking about immigrants. can the republican party win the white house with this sort of rhetoric? our political panel weighs in next. ♪ ♪ (dorothy) toto, i've a feeling we're not in kansas anymore... (morpheus) after this, there is no turning back.
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mr. obama's rating falls from 49% last month and 50% back in june. >> thousands of people are expected to show donald trump a little southern hospitality when he headlines a rally in mobile, alabama. moving the rally from a civic center to a 43,000 seat arena that usually hosts high school football games. trump continues to dominate the polls and take aim at his rivals. jeb bush, taking off the gloves and deciding now is the time to fight back hard. >> reporter: jeb is now hitting back at trump after weeks of seeming hesitant to engage him. he's also getting help from his big brother.
the former president sending out a fund-raising e-mail to jeb spo supporters. jeb is facing his biggest hurdle yet, a massively popular trump. >> they're calling it the summer of trump. >> reporter: trump is making his way from the northeast to the south today. hosting a pep rally in mobile, alabama. >> there are going to end up being 30,000 to 40,000 people in alabama. >> reporter: he has been known to exaggerate his numbers. >> outside, sadly we have thousands who can't get in. we have hundreds and hundreds of people standing outside. >> reporter: but perhaps this time the proof is in the tickets. so many claimed that tonight's event has been relocated twice. it was first squcheduled to tak place here in this civic center theater, occupancy 1900. then the arena, occupancy
10,000. now as 35,000 have claimed tickets, the pep rally will kick up the turf here at this high school football stadium, capacity 43,000. meanwhile one of trump's leading rivals getting unwanted questioning after using a phrase many consider offensive in a radio interview this week, anchor babies. >> do you regret using the term anchor babies yesterday on the radio? >> no. i don't regret it. >> you don't regret it? >> do you have a better term? >> i'm asking you. >> you give me a better term and i'll use it. i'm serious. don't yell at me behind my ear, though. geez. >> reporter: how about babies, children or american citizens? strikingly similar to trump's unapologetic use of the phrase on wednesday. >> undocumented immigrants. >> i'll use the word anchor
baby. >> reporter: and one more point about that term, anchor baby. the center right hispanic leadership network which lists jeb as one of its advisors sent out a memo in 2014 to avoid the term anchor baby because it's offensive. >> donald trump's defense of the term anchor babies is the latest in the series of controversial remarks he's made about illegal immigrants. it took a frightening turn in boston where two brothers shown here have been accused of beating a homeless man with a metal pipe and then urinating on him. the reason? police say the men told him, quote, donald trump was right. all these illegals need to be deported. we should note the man is not undocumented. that's according to a social security number listed on the police report. trump was asked about the
incident at a town hall in new hampshire on wednesday. >> two men involved, brothers, were arrested for beating a hispanic homeless man. they told the cops it was okay because you were right on immigration. >> i haven't heard about that. that would be a shame, but i haven't heard about that. but i will say the people who are following are very passionate. they want this country to be great again and they are very passionate. i will say that. >> mark lamont hill. mark, what did you think of donald trump's come back to that beating in boston? >> i thought that it was unfortunate that he didn't offer stronger word against that awful beating. look, i don't blame trump for the beating. just like after the black lives matter protests a cop was
injured. and people said oh, it's the protests. i don't think there's a one to one correlation here. there are sick people who do bad things all the time. trump has a responsibility as a leader to say, hey, this was wrong. this was unacceptable. and this had nothing to do with immigration reform in any fashion. this shows how indifferent he is to the lives of immigrants. >> what can we expect in the future as far as rhetoric goes? >> well, i think what we're seeing is a downstream effect of donald trump's demagoguing of immigrants. the party ends up divided on this. you have some responsible reform republicans who refuse to take the bait and stand by long held traditions and convictions of their own and their party. you know, to build on mark's point about trump's comments, obviously he's not responsible for the actions of two thugs in south boston.
but by saying it's unfortunate and by saying my supporters are really passionate, this isn't passion. this is evil. this is thuggery. this is beating someone who was an american citizen, not an undocumented immigrant. we need to be careful when people sort of play the lowest common denominator. it can bring out ugly downstream elements. and there's a degree of responsibility for creating this environment. >> this harsh rhetoric is working so why would anybody stop using it? >> because they care about this country. because they care about decency. >> we hope they'd invoke principle. >> john, you were going to say? >> yeah. you know, the reason you don't simply play the lowest common denominator and try to divide and conquer in politics is you have the larger responsibility of leaders. it's not about demagoguing
because it works. it's not about simply hurling whatever negative invective tuck because some people seem to like it. there has to be some degree of conviction and caring about the process which you seek to lead. this isn't realityt. this is our democracy. >> religious leaders are coming out and say can go you please stop it. russell moore, the president of the the ethics commission of the southern baptist convention. he calls the rhetoric dark and demagoguic. can a republican candidate win the presidency if such talk continues? >> yes. if the front runners make different choices. no disrespect to say rick santorum, who i actually personally like, he's not going to determine the direction of this race. mike huckabee likely won't determine the direction of the
race at this point. neither is george pataki. the problem is right now trump was a marginal candidate in people's estimation and he made some moves that other people would not have and it worked for him and it continues to work. jeb bush who would have previously said a term like anchor babies is now going to double down on it. this should be about the broader interest of the nation. the leaders, the front runners of this race have to change the conversation and make it a humane one. >> thanks to both of you i appreciate it. go ahead, john. button it up for me. >> look, jeb bush has not been democrat nothing the issue of immigration. he's been supporting immigration reform and consistent on the issue. we can debate the terminology. and the real question to me is not whether candidates can afford not to demagogue
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president jimmy carter is recovering from treatment this morning, just one day after announcing that the cancer found in his liver had spread to four spots on his brain. >> they did an mri and found that there were four spots of melanoma on my brain. they are very small spots, about two millimeters if you can envision what a millimeter is. >> he had his first radiation treatment yesterday right after that news conference. dr. sanjay gupta is here.
what was that like for the president? >> it was an emotional press conference certainly for sure. he got up there. he was in a pair of blue jeans. i can tell you. there's a picture of what it might look like. you go into a machine and that's a sort of mask that helps hold you face into a particular position. and they sort of zero in on these particular areas of the brain, those four areas that president carter mentioned to try and actually provide radiation to those areas only. >> so that holooks horribly uncomfortable and claustrophobic. >> some people do get claustrophobic. probably looks a little bit worse than it is. that's sort of to held the head and face into place. and then you're in the machine
for a little while. >> what's a little while? >> it depends. you have to plan to get four separate areas. it could be an hour and a half. you're planning in between each particular phase of the radiation. it's a commonly done thing. but again it is probably claustrophobic. and you've got to sit there for some time. >> i've heard from some people whose parents have gone through this that it can change your personality for a time. >> yeah. when you're thinking about radiation to the brain, oftentimes you're thinking about radiation to the whole brain. because you're assuming there's cancerous cells to the brain. that's the type of thing that's most often associated with changes in personality, changes in mood. that could happen here as well. but it sort of takes all these beams and focuses them on this one area. the goal is to provide the most radiation to the areas of
concern and the least to other areas. people often feel very fatigued after this. but the personality changes may not be as significant as with the other type. >> i hope not. thanks so much. i appreciate it. and good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. all right. you hearing the opening bell. it's ringing on wall street. investors are bracing for a rough ride. yesterday wiped out every gain it had made this year. what lies ahead? i'm joined by christine romans. christin christina, i want to start with you. what's the mood there? >> looks like a continuation
from yesterday. lots of downward pressure. gonna be ugly. carol, let me put some more context around this. yesterday that 2% drop was the biggest we've seen in about a year and a half. we're now below that 17,000 threshold. that psychological threshold that we haven't reached in about a year. clearly a lot of concerns here, mainly driven by the fact that emerging markets are really in disarray and that's causing oil to drop. that's putting pressure on the dollar upwards, actually, that could spell some trouble for u.s. businesses trying to sell their goods overseas. so there is where the concern lies for a lot of investors. we'll have to see how this plays out. it's kind of too early to tell. remember, keep in mind, we are still pretty high on a historical basis. we're still pretty close to record highs. >> okay. so i see christine is nodding. monica is nodding. thank you by the way. christine, is the correction
finally here? >> there hasn't been a correction that's 10% from peak to trough. we haven't had one in 1400 days. that's almost unheard of. a lot of people are saying it's long overdue. there are a lot of reasons. china had a number overnight that showed its manufacturing sector is slowing quickly. yesterday we talked about the fed. the fed is going to raise rates, but no one knows quite when. maybe the fed is going to hold off because it's worried about the global situation. that is causing a lot of problems in the market. netflix got hit hard. you look at disney, the big media stocks, apple for example is down 15% of its peak. all the things that drove things up, all the darlings for investors have been hit hard. >> i've been enjoying looking at my 401(k) lately. should i buy since stock prices
are lore? >> yeah. i actually think especially with something like a 401(k) where you have a long hold. when people are panicking it's the right time to double down and buy a little bit more with the caveat you're going to be able to sit on this for ten or 20 years if you need to. while there's no new data that's causing all of this to happen, there's a global slow down. china is seeing growth the slowest in 25 years. when china is not doing good, they're not doing good. 50% of the profit and revenue for the dow comes from all over the world. we're interconnected. >> let's look at the bigger picture. you told us, christine, just the other day that our economy in the united states is getting better. what does this signal, this drop in the stock market? >> this signals that we're concerned about the rest of the world. if you think of the u.s. as the
cleanest dirty shirt in the lawn -- laundry, then you buy stocks. there will be other investments that will be a little more valuable. when we talk about the bigger picture, the bigger picture is also the oil story. there's a crash in the oil market. that's going to mean lower gas prices all through the fall. which on a paycheck to paycheck kitchen table economics you're going to have more money to save or pay down debt. that's a good thing. >> what does it mean for job creation? >> while you've seen consumers spend all the oil savings, you have not seen biusies invest in anything. the whole idea behind it was hey we'll give you cheap money, go out there and invest. and they really haven't been.
they've been using it to buy back their own stock. you see the stock market go up. that's where you see frustration on main street. they're like my life's not any better. with oil prices going down, you're going to see more money to the consumer. but businesses are shaky and that's a big problem in it. >> job creation has steady and solid for a couple of years now. wages haven't gone up. even though the job market is getting better, if you have another job or you want to negotiate a raise, now is the time to do it. however, wages have not been going up for most people and that's why people still feel unsteady. still to come in the "newsroom" this could be the worst day ever for 32 million paying customers of that website dedicated to extramarital affairs.
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32 million people revealed by the ashley madison hack. this document dump brings up a lot of ethical questions. let's talk about that with laurie segal. you've spend a lot of time on the dark web looking at these names. cree creepy. >> it is. and the scope is enormous. you're talking about millions and millions of people. a lot of people say we don't have that much situation think for these folks. they're cheaters. but they're also victims of a massive data breeach. they could be victims of
identi identity fraud. it's become almost a bit of a chase to find the cheaters. so it's raising a lot of ethical questions. >> and i'm not so sure. god forbid if my husband was cheating on me, i'd never want it public for my sake, for my family's sake. if i had children, that would concern me. >> there was a twitter account for a while that was outing people and tagging the places they worked and putting pictures of them and then they signed up. you really begin to wrap your head around this. twitter suspended the account. but you have to think about the other victims here, which are the families. there are something like 15,000 government e-mails on there. we want independently confirm that obviously. but we have reason to look and see and understand what the people leading our country are doing. so you wrestle with the fact of
do we look here? do we not? where do we draw the line? >> there are some government workers' e-mail addresses that were exposed. but if they paid for this service with their own money and they didn't do anything illegal, then should the media release their name? it's something we wrestle with. if the military is exposed, you can't do that in the military. >> it's against their code of conduct. in saudi arabia, you have e-mail addresses associated there where adultery is punishable in a different way. you begin to wrap your head around this could be a very big deal. a lot of these profiles had sexual preferences. you could out someone for being ga gay in a place where homosexuality is illegal. we are literally looking
straight inside of ashley madison and wondering, do you think this company could ever recover after this? >> i don't think so. thanks so much. still to come in the "newsroom," north korea furious over insult blaring loudspeakers. it's now threatening military action against south korea. will the united states step in.
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in a string of escalating tensions. two south korean soldiers were injured by land mines planted in the dmz. when north korea denied involvement, south korea began playing the loud speaker. north korea vowed strikes. which brings us to today. when north korea told its troops to enter a wartime state and planning to retaliate if north korea acts again. so it's just mind boggling that north korea would be so incensed by a bank of loud speakers. >> they're choosing to be incensed. north korea is only incensed when it wants to be incensed. basically the timing of this is no coincidental. this is the time that south korea and the united states do
their annual joint exercises. that always gets north korea very exercised. they're always looking for an opportunity to show some sort of aggression. this seems to have gone a little far, this business of raising troops along the border. to a state of heightened almost war what you worry about is not the leader will do something stupid. you worry about one patrol commander, one tank commander, one commander of an artillery piece who gets a little over enthusiastic and misinterprets the signals they're getting from headquarters and presses the wrong button and starts shooting. that's what you worry about. >> and you're ultra worried about that because in fee pyongyang you said there are trucks going through doing what? >> there are trucks going around the city alerting the citizens their country is nearly in a state of warlike preparation. that means eventually the government in pyongyang is going
to need some sort of a victory to declare to its people. having told the people we're ready to go to war, you're going to need to say in a couple days, we forced the other side to back down. that's what north korea always needs, it needs an off-ramp, some sort of face-saving gesture that allows its own propaganda machine to say we won even though nothing really happened on the ground. >> it sounds so stew wupid to a you this, but is it possible north korea could fire a missile and hit the loud speakers? >> they're pretty big loud speakers. the fact they haven't hit one yet suggests their targeting isn't terrific. i think they will require the south koreans to switch the loud speakers off. these are a relic of the cold war. the chinese and the russians, soviet union, used to do this all the time. both new york korea and south korea used to trade loud speaker insults all the time. about 11 years ago they both
switched them off. this is not new on the border. as i said at the beginning, north korea chooses to be offended from time to time. this is grandstanding, but you worry there's reason to worry, even though it's mostly a sort of kabuki theater game, you really worry about one commander, one soldier at the front line doing the wrong thing. >> bobby, many thanks. still to come, an emotional end to week one of that prep school rape trial. what the defense lawyer said that left the accuser sobbing on the stand. next. are you moving forward fast enough? everywhere you look, it strategy is now business strategy. and a partnership with hp can help you accelerate down a path created by people, technology and ideas. to move your company from what it is now... to what it needs to become.
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suggested she sent conflicting signals to his client. she replied, i was raped. of course i was traumatized. i'm sorry, i'm sorry. labrie expected to take the stand. he's likely to tell jurors the pair never had intercourse and that he stopped things before they went too far. boris sanchez has been following the trial. he has more for us this morning. good morning. >> good morning, carol. that exchange important to point out came after very difficult, very graphic and detailed testimony. the defense pushing her to acknowledge that certain things happened between them in that encounter. she was very emotional throughout her testimony right up until the end of the cross-examination. she was crying. we heard from the accuser's mom, a very close friend, and two nurses. the first nurse saw her two days after the alleged incident. she works at st. paul's school, and the accuser allegedly went to go see the nurse to get emergency contraception.
this testimony may be pivotal in the case. listen to what the nurse said the accuser told her. >> she came to me and asked if she could speak to me privately, and so we went into an exam room, and she told me that she had had intercourse for the first time and it was unprotected and she was requesting plan b. >> did you talk about whether the intercourse was consensual or not? >> yes. i did ask her those questions, and she said that it was consensual, that it was not coerced. she appeared anxious. she was teary-eyed, worry ied, d nervous. >> reporter: as you heard the accuser telling the nurse at st. paul's that the sex was consensual and not coerced in any way. very important to point out, the
accuser said as she was being cross-examined that she said that because she wanted to move past the incident. keep in mind, her whole family was on campus. her sister is also a student on st. paul's. it was her graduation so her whole family was there. we heard from another nurse yesterday who take the rape kit from her four days after the incident and then next week we're set to hear from owen labrie himself. >> but the important part of this is owen labrie says intercourse never took place yet she went to the nurse to ask for emergency contraception. >> right. it's kind of a gray area i'd say because the second nurse we heard from who take the rape kit acknowledged very graphic details, physical evidence, if you will, that honestly is vulgar for tv and there's still kind of a gray area in the testimony that the nurse gave and the testimony that the accuser gave. so i think we have to hear from owen labrie himself to see what
he has to say about the incident to really kind of get down to what happened. >> we'll hear next week. boris sanchez, many thanks. the next hour of cnn "newsroom" starts now. happening now in the "newsroom," full battle ready. kim jong-un puts north korea in a semi war state after an exchange of fire at the border. is war on the horizon? also -- >> they're calling it the summer of trump. >> trump expects a stadium-sized crowd in alabama today, but two words are the talk of the campaign trail. >> i'll use the word okay yanch baby. >> and trump isn't the only one using them. >> do you regret using anchor babies? >> no, i don't. >> a trump sounding mo-- is bus and more like trump. plus hundreds of thousands of acres burning in washington state. firefighters killed in the line
of duty. this morning the state is asking residents for help. let's talk live in the cnn "newsroom." and good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. he may be the most unpredictable and dangerous dictator in the world and right now north korea's kim jong-un has his troops braced for war. early this morning he held an emergency meeting with military leaders and ordered front line troops to ramp up to, quote, a wartime state. it comes after an exchange of artillery fire with south korea over the heavily fortified area separating the two. south korea, home to some 28,000 u.s. troops, is rolling out barricades and is going on high alert. emotions also running high. this is a rally in south korea's capital condemning the latest saber rattling from their hostile neighbor and worrying that the threats this time are more ominous. cnn's kathy novak is live near the dmz in south korea. good morning.
>> reporter: good morning, carol. kim jong-un has ordered his army to be prepared to launch surprise attacks against south korea, and south korea says it will strongly retaliate against any further provocation from north korea. all eyes are on a deadline tomorrow that pyongyang has set for south korea to stop broadcasting anti-north korean propaganda messages across speakers that are blaring these messaging over the border. south korea says it will not stop this. south korea says it started this campaign of psychological warfare for the first time in more than ten years in retaliation for a land mine attack that it has blamed on north korea which badly injured two of its soldiers. so it says it's not going to stop and that when this deadline comes tomorrow, when pyongyang says if south korea does not stop the psychological warfare by 5:00 p.m. by saturday, it will launch military action. south korea is expecting north korea to expect those propaganda speakers, carol. >> kathy novak reporting live from the dmz.
the missouri man shot and killed by police this week died from a single gunshot in the back. this is according to the st. louis post dispatch. authorities say two officers fired at the man after he pointed a handgun at them. ryan young is in st. louis following the story. good morning, ryan. what do you have for us? >> reporter: good morning, carol. in fact, we wanted to get more information about this case so he found the attorney for the man who was shot, jermaine wooten, who is here with me, who says there's new information involved in this case. first of all, from what police have said so far, what is the family's contention and what is your contention about what actually happened that night? >> the family's contention of what happened that afternoon is plain and simple. monsieur was not at the house where this search warrant was executed at. actually, he was two doors south of that property in the backyard. upon seeing two plainclothes young man in the alley, he didn't know they were police officers or what. him and another young man seen
these two armed guys, and they took off running. upon taking off running, he may have ran roughly about 30 feet, then he was shot from the back in the right upper back. >> and you said -- show me the location again. >> the bullet would have traveled in this area coming -- it was traveling in a leftward motion. the bullet did not exit the body. it would have hit his artery killing him instantly. >> okay. but there is a contention he had a gun and pointed it toward officers. there are people who say he had a gun while he was running. what do you guys think so far? >> speaking with every witness on the scene, no one confirms he had a gun. everyone said just the opposite. he did not have a gun. the police theory of this case or the police story of this case is he was in this house where the search warrant was executed, he ran out the back door, pointed a gun at them, and after they fired and hit him, he continued to run. that could not have -- medically that's impossible.
all the young people who were in the house and all the people who were in the house say he was not even there. they had no idea he was even the person that had gotten shot. he doesn't even live in that area, and after he was shot, like i said, per the medical examiner, it's no way he would have lived to even have been able to travel more than five feet. >> there's a talk that dna of his may have been on the gun. is that true? have you been able to find out that information. >> we have not gotten the dna results but it wouldn't surprise me if dna would have appeared on the gun. if police had shot this unarmed man from the back, we have a major, major problem considering the environment in this particular city the last 14 months. we have michael brown that led things off here. it was followed with powell and myers. so we have another kid being shot by the police and now we have another kid being shot from the back by police. so it wouldn't surprise me that
his dna would be found on the gun if the police are continuing that, but certainly there's no one who would say he had a gun. >> so we hear anger from the community, and people are very upset. we saw people marching just last night. you said you've talked to people in the community who say they didn't see him running with the gun because i know it's a small hallway, right? >> it's a very small hallway. people in the community, everyone over there who had seen these events say, hey, he did not have a gun. many people over there did not even know him because he didn't live in that community and that's what's even more problematic. he lived in a suburban community. he had just gone down there to see relatives and had gotten there really less than one hour to see relatives, hadn't even made it to his relatives' house, had sat there and talked to another young man and shortly while talking to that young man, that was shortly before this incident had occurred. >> reporter: there was a contention there was a search warrant that was supposed to be served on that house. police say they found three stolen guns in that area. was he a part of that search
warrant? were police actually looking for him when they showed up? >> he was not a target of the search warrant. the police did not even know who he was. like i said, he did not live at that house. he did not frequent that house at all. >> reporter: okay. so as of right now the evidence you've been able to gather, you're saying your client never had a gun. >> never had a gun. >> reporter: when he took off running, everyone says he didn't point back toward -- >> he did not point back toward the officers. he was not at the house where the search warrant was executed. he would have been, like i said, two properties south of that property. >> reporter: thank you for joining us. this is jermaine wooten obviously talking about what's going on here in st. louis. so many people upset about the information they're learning obviously with the autopsy report now coming out saying he was shot in the back. a lot of conversations will be had. we'll have to figure out what happens next and whether overnight will be peaceful. >> we'll let you get back a to it. ryan young reporting live from st. louis. at the white house president obama is facing another dip in the polls. just under half approve of how
the president is handling his job. 47% give him a thumbs up. 51% disapprove. on popular foreign policy decisions have contributed to the dip, and likely at the top of that list is the president's iran deal. cnn's sunlen sur fatty joins me to parse the numbers. >> reporter: it reveals some concern for the white house as they try to sell this nuclear deal with iran and specifically a lot of unhappiness with how president obama is handling himself. 60% according to this poll of americans disapprove of the way the president is handling iran. only 38% of americans approve of what he's doing. now, this comes as the president has really been ramping up his pressure on lawmakers and others really reaching out, engaging more on this issue from his vacation in martha's vineyard. writing an op-ed that appeared in 30 newspapers across the country this week saying in part, quote, here is my bottom
line. if we are committed to preventing iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon, the choice we ultimately face is between a diplomatic solution and what would likely become another war in the middle east in the near future. and that's an argument the president is also taking directly to members of congress, especially those skeptical democrats in congress like congressman nadler from new york. president obama wrote him a letter directly saying in part, quote, should iran seek to dash towards a nuclear weapon, all of the options available to the united states, including the military option, will remain available through the life of the deal and beyond. and that was certainly a message not just to that specific congressman but to others who are still on the fence, carol, and that congressman nadler coming out this morning in favor of the deal. >> all right. sunlen serfaty reporting live from the white house this morning. thank you. still to come in the "newsroom," thousands expected to turn out for donald trump as he takes his campaign to
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. tonight the town of mobile, alabama, could be the site of the biggest crowd seen so far in the 2016 campaign trail, and it's all because of donald trump. the republican front-runner set to rally supporters at a stadium normally used for high school and college football games. the campaign spokesman saying trump's vow to make america great is making voters take notice. cnn's athena jones is in manchester, new hampshire, to tell us more. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, carol. you know, this event was moved more than once. it was originally set to take place in a civic center theater, but that theater only held about
1,900 people. it was then moved to a larger arena that holds 10,000, but then after the campaign said that at least 35,000 people claimed free tickets for the event online, they had to move it to that huge stadium that, as you mention, usually hosts high school and college football games. it holds 43,000 people, and, carol, if that many people come to trump's event tonight, it will, of course, set a new record for this campaign season. right now that record is held by bernie sanders. he's one of the democrats running. he's also seen as an outsider candidate. he drew 28,000 people to his event in portland, oregon, just a couple weeks ago. that was in an nba arena. some very big crowds, carol. >> i have to ask you about this, the term anchor baby and the controversy surrounding it. so donald trump uses it all the time. jeb bush then used it. this morning donald trump tweeted and let's put the tweet
up right now so i can read it to you, so this is from donald trump. he says, jeb bush signed memo saying not to use the term anchor babies, offensive. now he wants to use it because i use it. stay true to yourself. what do you make of this, athena? >> reporter: well, for one thing, carol, it's interesting this both of these candidates are using this term. you have jeb bush saying i'm the reasonable adult in the room, it's donald trump who says controversial things but they're both using this controversial term. the memo donald trump is referring to is a 2013 memo put out by the hispanic leadership group that has jeb on its advisory board. it's not clear whether he signed the memo. we've seen the memo, there's no signatories on the memo we've seen, but certainly he should have been aware of it. so it's interesting to see donald trump kind of poking at jeb bush for using that term. and as you mentioned, he really, jeb bush did, defended himself strongly, defended his use of that term yesterday. it will be interesting to see
how the jeb bush campaign responds. carol? >> it's interesting you use the word interesting. athena jones reporting live from new hampshire this morning. thank you so much. trump's campaign manager says he is expected to focus mainly on immigration during tonight's rally in alabama. it's a topic that's caused controversy and sparked big support for donald trump. earlier this week i spoke to tara grant, a big trump supporter to get her thoughts on trump's plan. >> a lot of illegal immigrants are in this country. they are making money from america. they send it back, but they also do spend a lot of their money here in the united states. so economically how will it affect the united states of america, and i really do, i love the plan. i love the idea that, hey, let's get some of these illegal immigrants out of the country, let's get them out of here. >> so tara groant joins mee liv
from nashville. you wrote me an e-mail after that interview. you were in your car, your kids were in the backseat, and you told me you had an epiphany and i want to read part of your e-mail. you wrote, my kids' laughter brought tears to my eyes. i thought how it would feel to live in a country for which i had to worry every day that the drug lords would kill one of my kids. i realized if i had the opportunity get my kids and myself out of harm's way, i would do everything i could to get them to a safe location so they could laugh, learn, love, pray, play, hope, and dream our american dream. like i said, your e-mail was really touching. so what happened after that interview on monday? >> i will tell you, i mean, i am a normal person, and over the last few weeks in life i have just been going through a lot of personal issues, and so i think monday when i woke up and two hours of traffic and a lot of different things with babysitter arrangements and i just wasn't in a good place, you know, and
so i couldn't wrap my mind around the immigration policy. not necessarily all of the specifics but that in particular, and i did, carol, i got in my car and i was listening to my kids, my 5-year-old and my 2-year-old, and they were laughing and giggling, and i thought as a mother putting myself in the place of latino mother, having someone show up at my door and say, okay, wrap it up, you got to go. you know, i couldn't get with it any more, and it did. it brought me to tears, and you're exactly right, i would absolutely if i had to bend a rule or break a rule to get my kids into safety and so that i could offer them a life that i thought they deserved, i think that's my -- i think i have to do that as their parent. >> so how do you feel about donald trump's immigration plan now? >> i do. now, i agree with multiple specifics of the immigration policy. i do believe we need a wall, we need a border, and that is to
keep people from the drug cartel coming in and having easy access into the united states. i do think as far as immigrants coming into the country, do it legally, absolutely do it legally, but we cannot make these people wait years upon years upon years and pay huge amount of fines. they're poor. they are poor people. they do not have the money to spend lots of fees, lots of -- they don't have the money. so we've got to -- we've got to do something logically that allows these people to come into the united states just like lots of imgragemigrants before them. we were built on the backs of immigrants. i don't think we came into this country the first white settlers and asked the native americans, hey, listen, guys, do you have paperwork that we can fill out and can we pay -- no. we didn't do that. so actually we're all technically here illegally. >> okay. so i'm hearing you, and i just want to ask you about one more thing because there was an
incident in boston where these two creeps, you know, allegedly beat up a homeless man and then urinated on him and then supposedly told police trump was right, we need to get rid of the illegals. here is what donald trump said when he was asked about that incident on wednesday. >> two men in boston, two brothers, were arrested for allegedly beating up a hispanic homeless man and they told cops it was okay because you were right on immigration. >> i haven't heard about that. i think that would be a shame, but i haven't heard about that. i will say the people that are following are very passionate. they love this country. they want this country to be great again, and they are very passionate. i will say that. >> are you satisfied with mr. trump's response? >> no, i absolutely wasn't. when i heard that, i cringed, i did, because passion is one thing, but it was -- i would have loved for mr. trump to have
come out and said under no circumstances does anyone have the right to urinate, beat up anyone, immigrant, hispanic, white, black. it's ridiculous, and let's not mistake passion for lunacy. it was ludicrous on the part of those guys to hurt anyone, much less a hispanic person, a black person, a white person. it's ridiculous. it's cruel, and they had no right to do that, and i would have loved for mr. trump to draw a real definite line of it will not be tolerated and/or accepted. >> got it. i'm just curious because mr. trump is going to continue to use this term anchor babies, and by the way, when he refers to anchor babies, he is referring to american citizens. they are american citizens, right? but he's going to continue to use this word. it seems that harsh rhetoric is working for mr. trump.
do you think he should tamp it down now? >> i think he's going to do exactly what he wants to. i think the american public is sick and tired of political correctness. i think he's got every right in the world if he wants to use the word, quote, unquote, anchor baby, i think he has ever right in the world. i do believe he was right in the fact that jeb bush automatically jumped on that bandwagon because now he's creating headlines. so i think donald trump is going to do exactly what he wants to. he's going to use the verbiage that he wants to, and i think he does it unapologetically. do i agree with the word anchor baby if it offends someone, i'm going to try not to use it. i have been told over the past week that undocumented was the word that we should use, and so i'll go with it. >> all right. tara grant, thank you so much for coming back, and thanks for your e-mail. i appreciate it. still to come in the "newsroom" -- >> we were having just a nice conversation, and he just came out of the blue when we were
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burned a big hole in our state's heart and with the loss of these three firefighters, we know the smoke is still there and it's thick, but it is not going to obscure their incredible act of courage. these are three big heroes protecting small towns, and we are going to remember them, and there are 7 million washingtonians that today are embracing them and their families and praying for them and hoping for the speedy recovery of our injured. >> it's probably not going to get any better anytime soon. chad myers has the details on that. hi, chad. >> hi, carol. in fact, it's going downhill from here. a front is going to come through and make winds going to fan these flames. the flames are all across northern washington and central washington, too, but really across the northern tier blowing some of this wind here from west all the way across even into parts of idaho. so let's zoom in here and show
you this twisp fire. this was the one that took the lives of those firefighters here. the winds coming down the valley here all the way across from twisp and then blowing into the city. these firefighters were trying to keep it out of the city because as the wind was blowing from the west, it was blowing those embers back toward the town of twisp. this is what we have going this weekend as well. just like last weekend, these fires will get out of control even though they have been fighting them for quite some time. a front is going to come through and make it windy again. now, the wind will eventually get into idaho and montana and wyoming, but there are fires there, too. so here is the wind today. 5:00, 6:00 tonight blowing at almost 30 miles per hour with gusts. that will quickly pick up an ember and send it miles away and start more fires here. finally though by saturday and sunday, the wind does get farther to the east giving the washington firefighters something to hope for but those people to the east, those firefighters in montana, wyoming, and also into parts of colorado have their work cut out for them this weekend. it's going to be a windy weekend. >> just unbelievable.
chad myers, many thanks. i appreciate it. and good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. more fogle fallout. a new disturbing detail. subway's former front man has agreed to pay his victims $1.4 million in restitution. this part of a formal plea deal on charges of child pornography and sex with minors. last night anderson cooper spoke with one of the fbi informants who secretly recorded conversations with fogle. let's listen to some of that. >> the remarks that he made to me were really just off the cuff, and he told me that he was -- he thought that middle school girls were so hot. >> and this just came out of nowhere? >> out of nowhere. we were actually at a school here in my area, and he was with the american heart association,
and we were preparing -- i was doing tv and radio at the time, and i was on the stage in the auditorium. we were waiting for the group of kids to come in, and he thought that we were just by ourselves having a one-on-one conversation when, in fact, my cameraman, who was just off in the gymnasium said -- he was recording us, and he heard jared say that to me. we were having just a nice conversation, and he just came out of the blue when we were talking about the kids, and he thought -- he said he thought that the middle school girls were hot. >> did you say anything to him or -- i don't even know what one would say. >> well, i was in shock, and i actually was questioning did i really just hear what i think i heard? and i looked over at my cameraman, and he just dropped his jaw. he was just astounded. >> and in the conversations with him over the years, which you say the fbi had you record, did he say more? did he talk about sexual relations with underage
children? >> yes. yes, he did. yes, he did. he was -- it was just something that he really, really enjoyed, and he trusted me for unknown reasons, and he had said numerous times to me over the course of the years about having sex with minors. so i had two young children at the time, and he talked to me about having -- installing cameras, hidden cameras in their rooms and asked me if i would choose which child i would like him to watch. during the time i had with the fbi, i had to play a role. i had to play a certain part in order for jared to be able to trust me. >> makes you sick, right? under fogle's plea deal, the government will recommend less than 13 years in prison. fogle's lawyers agree to ask for no less than five. analyst and former fbi assistant director tom fuentes is with me now. so, tom, these recorded
conversations went on for a period of years. why so long? >> well, i think, carol, part of the problem was that the lady that records the conversations is a reporter in florida, and fogle lived in indianapolis, so they ran into each other at events, but they weren't around each other all the time, so it wasn't a situation where she would be near him very often and could do a continuing set of recordings. also, you know, when you refer to the term fbi informant, often that has a negative connotation of somebody involved in criminal activity and the fbi gets them to cooperate. this is a private citizen who was also a reporter who was shocked at what she heard, and she notified the fbi and said, you know, basically i can't believe what i just heard, and for the fbi sex with minors, especially crossing state lines to have sex with minors, is a federal violation and producing, possessing, distributing child
pornography is considered a violent crime against a child and is also a federal violation. so that's why the fbi would want her to assist them in trying to get the evidence that he was really telling the truth, that he was interested in sex with young children. >> because it's not enough if he just says it. they have to prove he's actually doing it, right? >> oh, absolutely. they need the proof. they need his intent to do it, and, you know, and finally, you know, two of the charges in the indictment of him were that he traveled from indiana to new york on a couple of occasions and had sex with a 17-year-old girl at the time and later a 16-year-old girl, a girl that was 16 at the time. so they have him traveling across state lines. they have him expressing the intent to do it with this reporter who is recording the conversations, and then, of course, his best friend and the person running his children's foundation, you know, the fbi searched his computers a couple
months ago. found more than 400 videos of sexually explicit material involving minors. and learned that taylor, this individual, was involved with fogle in sharing the information, sharing the videos, sharing the photographs. so this is something that's been going on, but it's not easily proved, and, you know, the assistance of this reporter was instrumental in gathering the evidence. >> so it seems like authorities had such a preponderance of evidence. why agree to a plea agreement with fogle unless he's giving them more information. >> we don't know the details of what's causing that, and, you know, the agreement -- and it still has to be approved by the judge even when it's presented. so you could have a situation where a judge is so outraged by the conduct that he says this is not sufficient and that the u.s. attorney's office in agreeing to a maximum of 13 years in prison was too lenient and the judge doesn't want that deal, wants them to go back and renegotiate
a higher prison sentence. we don't know that but that's a possibility. >> all right. tom fuentes, thanks for your insight. i appreciate it. still to come in the "newsroom," it's graduation day for two female rangers. we'll tell you why one of their male counterparts said he would not be there without them. ♪ ♪ if you can't stand the heat, get off the test track. get the mercedes-benz you've been burning for at the summer event, going on now at your authorized mercedes-benz dealer. but hurry, offers end august 31st. share your summer moments in your mercedes-benz with us. can a a subconscious. mind? a knack for predicting the future. reflexes faster than the speed of thought.
all right. it's a rough ride on wall street today. the dow falling sharply at the open, and you can see there it's still down more than 200 points. christina is live at the new york stock exchange to tell us more. hi, what's happening? >> reporter: well, the slide continues as you just said, carol, and that's really because
there's a confluence of factors that has investors very nervous. yesterday's slide was bad enough. it was the biggest percentage drop in about a year and a half. adding to that overnight, you had chinese manufacturing was really some ugly numbers there. that caused investors to get nervous again, and this all ties back in a way to what's going on in the emerging markets led by china. you know, you have a lot of concerns about growth in those countries, and as we said before, that's putting pressure on oil. oil is going down. that means that the dollar is getting stronger. the dollar gets stronger, it's harder for u.s. companies to sell their goods overseas. so now we have investors re-evaluating, you know, their thoughts on profitability for american companies, and now we've seen specific companies get hit and more skepticism around stocks like media and tech, so you're going to have a lot more skepticism plus you
have the unknown of what the fed is going to do. a lot of investors are looking for a rate hike in the fall but here is the thing. if we have the market kind of going awry, does that mean that the fed has to re-evaluate its time line? you have to think that some of those committee members at the fed will take a look at today's moves and say, is this the right time to raise rates? carol? >> reporting live from the new york stock exchange, thanks so much. just about 20 minutes history will be made in the american military. there they are. two female soldiers set to receive their ranger tabs. graduating from the prestigious and grueling army ranger school at ft. benning, georgia. pentagon correspondent barbara starr is following this story. it's going to be a proud day for them, but i cannot imagine the pressure they're feeling. >> reporter: well, i think probably both of them feel they've, you know, leaped the big hurdle by getting through ranger school at this point. i'm not sure anything could be
tougher about what lies ahead for these two women. the army at ft. benning at this hour very much getting ready for this graduation ceremony for both of these women. this, of course, comes against the backdrop of the pentagon about to make some decisions by the end of the year about what jobs in combat can actually be opened up to women. as you see some of the pictures of the demonstrations of what rangers do in their training. they have passed ranger school, but still to be decided can they join the 75th ranger regiment in the field and go into front line combat positions? a lot of curiosity i think about how the men in the ranger class felt about working with these women, and i want you to listen to what one of these young male rangers had to say about his female counterpart. >> there was one night we were doing a long walk. i was the 320 gunner so i had a
lot of weight on me and i was struggling and i stopped and i asked at a halfway point, can anyone help take some of this weight? i got a lot of deer in the headlight looks and a lot of people were like i can't take any more weight. shaye was the only one to volunteer to take that weight. she took the weight off me. she carried it the last half of that. i probably wouldn't be sitting here if it wasn't for shaye. >> reporter: and that is what is so critical and has nothing to do with gender. in combat these are units of teamwork. that is what any military leader will tell you. women, men, they form a team. they go into combat together, they fight together, they do everything to come home together. this experience of having women in the ranger school certainly eye-opening and very interesting because most of these young men might have had a bit of skepticism going in. all of them are saying when they came out of ranger school with the women, they felt very much
everyone was part of that team. carol? >> that's awesome. i guess what i meant by pressure, you know, they're the first. at least i would feel i would have to perform perfectly from here on out because i would be the first. i just can't imagine how that feels. but it is great to know they have support from their male colleagues. >> well, it is. you know, this is something i think actually i don't know h how -- to be thankful for it would work out, there was no unpleasantness, at least none that we know of. there were several other women in the class. they were not able to complete. you pointed out this so so tough. i think we have something we can show our viewers how tough is ranger school? the physical training these people have to go through, these young people, the road marches, the push-ups, the sit-ups, the mock -- 62 days anyone will tell
you of just absolute sheer misery, hungry, cold, tired, very little food, very little sleep, and training after training after training. so at the end of the day, again, there's a good deal of pressure to be able to come out of ranger school. one of the things we should say is commanders have been very adamant for these women, for all women, the standards not lowered. they met the same standards as all of the men. carol? >> awesome. barbara starr reporting live from the pentagon. thank you. still to come in the "newsroom," police in thailand up the reward in connection with the deadly bombing a the a religious shrine. t a religious shrine.
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in bangkok, thailand, the investigation into that deadly bombing at a hindu shrine is currently centered on, quote, a woman in a black shirt. police did not provide any more details or say why they were looking for her, but they dramatically increased the reward in the case. andrew stevens is in bangkok with the latest. >> reporter: police in bangkok now say they think at least ten people were involved, and what they say was a well organized team that executed the attack on erawan shrine on monday evening. they say they've obtained evidence to suggest that several people were involved in plotting the attack and also acquiring the materials as well as building the bomb, all done under the radar, of course. they haven't shared what that evidence is at the moment. at this stage hear also pulling back on making any link with
international terrorism. they have been talking to interpol and sharing information with security agencies in the u.s., the uk, and australia, and the consensus opinion is it is not an international conspiracy which brings the focus at least somewhat back onto domestic issues, and they say they're not ruling anything out at this stage. they've, meanwhile, increased the reward for any information leading to the arrest of the man in the yellow shirt, the man they say they're now very sure is the bomber. apart from the early break through when they identified the man they think is the bomber, there's been very little else solid and concrete. they've actually ruled out two other suspects they thought were initially accomplices, and they're now saying that the network that was used may be more than ten people. very frustrating for the police, but also very frustrating and also very worrying for the people of bangkok. >> andrew stevens, thanks.
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an all-glass swimming area suspended ten stories in the air. would you take a dip? jeanne moos did. >> reporter: it's a cross between the glass skywalk over the grand canyon and a swimming pool. it is the sky pool. ten stories up, a see-through pool suspended between two luxury apartment blocks in london. >> i don't know. it seems possible you'd get vertigo while swimming. developer john ryan says when his father first broached the idea -- >> we weren't really sure whether it was possible. >> reporter: but after a year and a half of consulting with engineering and even aquarium experts, ryan says the sky pool was a sure thing. 90 feet long made out of crystal
clear acrylic that's eight inches thick. gives a whole new meaning to the word sky diving though you have to be careful about diving into this pool. it's only going to be about four feet deep. it may not be among the highest pools like the marina bay sands in singapore or among the deepest pools like the nemo 33 in belgium or the largest pools, the san alfonso del mar in chile, but the sky pool will make you want to keep your eyes wide open under water. what are you thinking it would feel like to swim in this pool? >> yeah, we don't 100% know because it's never been done before, but the idea was we thought it would be like you're kind of swimming through air. >> reporter: rarified air. the sky pool is for residents in the apartments being built at embassy gardens start at $940,000. construction won't be complete for another three years. no worries about falling off the pool. the acrylic extends well beyond the water's surface.
skinny dipping in this pool would be very exposing. >> you know, you're ten floors up, so you have a little protection. >> we'd look like tadpoles up there in this human aquarium in the sky. jeanne moos -- where does the lifeguard sit -- cnn -- >> he'll sit on the edge. >> new york. >> thank you for joining me. "at this hour with berman and bolduan" starts now. on the brink of war. the most unpredictable dictator in the world telling his troops get ready for the worst as north and south korea face off. a city on edge. his death sparked violent protests this week in st. louis and now we're hearing the black teenager killed by police was shot in the back. we'll take you there live. and one is a socialist, the other is, well, donald trump, and today they could both see record crowds as voters speak out against the esta