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there must have been that. >> we're on the jury watch. jean casarez, thank you for that. i'm going to turn things over to my colleague wolf who starts right now. >> i'm wolf blitzer. it's 8:00 p.m. in bagged did. wherever you're watching, thank you for joining us. up first, new details about a gunman's troubled history and a grief stricken father's push for tougher gun laws. the journalist killings in virginia, we're digging deeper also in that 23-page document of vester flanagan who went by the name on tv bryce williams. left behind after killing journalist alison parker and adam ward. in one chilling passage he says this, and i'm quoting, hell, i am surprised i didn't do this
before now. we are also, by the way, getting new information about complaints and grievances that he filed, flanagan filed, against former employers. they include allegations of racial harassment. we've learned flanagan purchased two glock 19 pistols legally at the same gun store and at the same time. this was 47 days ago in the roanoke, virginia, area, according to a federal law enforcement source. and her father vows to keep access from guns. he owes it to his daughter, a daughter he spoke to every day. >> she would be texting me right now saying, dad, what did you think of my story? what did you think of it? and i'm never going to hear that again. she was so loved by all, and my heart is broken.
but i want to try to do something that will change that and make her life -- will do something meaningful for her life so that this doesn't happen to someone else again. >> alison parker's boyfriend is an anchor at the same station where she worked on cnn's "new day" earlier today he showed her on chris cuomo a scrapbook chronicling their relationship. >> it's something that was supposed to be for us but now that she was taken from this world i think it's for everyone, some of the pictures that we had together, we made it for our six-month anniversary. she made it for me and wrote love notes to me saying that for the next six months it was my turn to fill in all the pictures in here and it's a love story that i think is something i was privileged and honored to have had for only nine months. >> while family members grieved, the search for answers continue.
vester flanagan had a long history of filing complaints against employers he accused of discrimination. our senior investigative correspondent. drew, what are you learning? >> that this guy had a very tumultuous year at the station, wdbj-t wdbj-tv. he was reprimanded several times for his harassment of other employees, making employees feel threatened, and he was also reprimanded, wolf, for some very, very poor journalism that was outlined. the station tried to get him coaching. tried to get him help, also tried to get him mental health help. in the end, they actually let him go in a tumultuous firing in february of 2013. of course he sued the station for, among other things, racial harassment. but finding no evidence, it was dismissed out of hand. none of this points to any kind of actual harm done to this person that would lead to any rage. it seems it has been building
up, the hatred and the violence inside this person's mind for two and a half years since he left that station until it finally exploded yesterday morning at 6:45. wolf? >> like a powder keg, in his own words in that document. and in one complaint, as you know, drew, flanagan writes a letter to a judge about a watermelon. tell us about that. >> if you look at what he wrote to the judge, this is about a watermelon that he's describing would appear in the station. i think we can even show you that graphic. i have photos of the watermelon that appeared. the watermelon would appear, disappear, appear and disappear only to appear yet again. he goes on to tell the judge, this is a letter to the judge, that it was visible where he was and entering and exiting the building and that he has proof of it. has pictures, et cetera. the problem is the proof never showed up. there was no evidence of this in
the court document that would show this happened. there were other things he would write. he wrote about an intern allison, allison bailey, not alison parker. he said made racial comments to him and one of the comments he detailed, wolf, allison told me where was i going to swing by for lunch. he thought that was a racial comment. hard to say on first glance why that with be a racial comment, but in a previous lawsuit against a previous employer he talked about being called a monkey by other workers at that station. that was in the year 2000 back in tallahassee. so he is very hypersensitive to race. in his diatribe he talks about hating white women and black men. it comes across as a person who is mentally disturbed although perhaps undiagnosed. wolf? >> so you think this is a different -- alison parker's middle name is bailey.
>> he may have just gotten the name wrong. it's unclear whether they even knew each other. there was some time when they overlapped at the station when he was a reporter and she was an intern. but, again, it was a brief comment that he was trying to say this proves the racial harassment that i endured at the station and it was a comment specifically where are you going to swing by for lunch? he took that to be offensive. >> do we know, drew, the outcome of these complaints? >> they were all pretty much dismissed. the one in florida, there was a quick settlement, and dismissed. the one in wdbj, that was pretty much dismissed. the counter complaint was filed saying where's the evidence that any of this happened? it was dismissed within just a couple of months, and that itself took place a year ago. so all of this, what we're dealing with, is far in the past. it just seems like he has been stewing, if you will, for the
last two years in roanoke, virginia. >> it certainly does. all right, drew, good work. thanks very much. there are still many questions about this guy, vester flanagan. why he shot alison parker and her photographer adam ward in cold blood. a 23-page document has provided at least some clues. one passage reads, okay, so the big question is why? well, after i compiled well over 100 pages chronicling the hurt in my life, i asked myself, why not? i am surprised i didn't do this before now. another passage, my anger has been building steadily. i've been a powder keg for a while just waiting to go boom at any moment. and this. i have been targeted my whole life, mostly by white females but also by black males. with us now is our law enforcement analyst, tom fuentes, the clinical psychologist who is joining us
as well. in this 23-page suicide note, flanagan talks about his past including claims he was a teen model, claims he was a male escort in addition to working in tv news. he discusses his personal life being a gay black man. he rants about his perceived injustices, the bullying that was going on in his life. he also praised -- offered praise for some other killers, mass murderers, if you will. he also referenced past family episodes of mental health issues, more praise for other killers. what does all this say to you in your analysis? >> in my analysis, obviously i never met him. it feels like it lines up to feel like a paranoid personality disorder. a lot of hyper sensitivity, suspiciousness, combativeness, this buying into this conspiracy that almost feels like it's against him. a tremendous amount of contempt for others. and so what's interesting is how
much insight he was becoming a powder keg. these are not good candidates for treatment. that insight often doesn't translate into change because that belief system everyone is out to get them and it's a preoccupation that everyone and everything is a block to what they want to get. and it is a chronic disillusionment and that's what this feels to me. this is a guy who more days than not looked like he had it together though he probably felt like a very, very difficult co-worker. you're not exactly going to drop a dime on someone just for being difficult. and that's why this guy may not have gotten the help he really needed. and even if he got it, wolf, i'm not convinced it would have made that much of a difference. >> those who were close to him, family members, close friends, presumably they would have noticed some extremely bizarre, strange behavior, right? >> the thing is i think this has been building up over time,
wolf. i think this has been his style. he's just this difficult, combative guy who is angry at the world and i think people probably just started seeing him as that guy. if you look at the complaints from the work place, he was often difficult with co-workers and when he was going from job to job to job he was probably just getting into trouble everywhere he went because of this behavior. i think people wrote him off as difficult. typically this disorder does not culminate in this kind of violence. so that's the problem, even if we find someone with this disorder, the probability this is what's going to happen is very, very low. so this idea even if we diagnose, then what? then we can try to treat them but we're probably not going to be able to predict the dangerous element. >> it's so frustrating. tom, in this note that flanagan wrote he says he was unemployed for five months, that he purchased the gun after being unemployed for three months. we're learning flanagan
purchased two glock 19 pistols legally at the same store. would any of this raise red flags to you? >> well, sure. in hindsight. but at the time it wouldn't have raised too many other than the ones already there. i really appreciate what your other guest has just said that even with everybody seeing this kind of bow hehavior, there's n much that could be done. somebody in his case, this extreme narcissism, it's all about me. it's me against the world. everybody's against me. everybody's picking on me. and he even says it started since childhood. every one of these small grievances is another brick in the wall that finally gets built up and up and up. it's just something that's been coming for a long time. nobody knows exactly. this is similar to predicting when a volcano will erupt.
you can see it. you can see the rumbling but you don't know if it's going to happen. there's not a lot you can do about it. >> let me read another passage from the suicide note. i told random strangers or people i interacted with how i hated people. but i would often say it with a smile on my face. later in the note he writes this, i want to say i am so, so, so, so, so sorry for anything and everything that i have ever done and everything that i have ever done or said to offend or hurt anyone. that sounds like someone who is s seething, right? >> the taunts, the apology, you can see even the inconsistency in the suicide note is very hard to follow. so you can imagine it's very hard to target this guy and put him into an easy box and say this is a guy who is dangerous. and so i, again, it's this idea
is there any system that can adequately address this? one thing i would say and this is where our system fails, this is somebody who could have been monitored and managed over a lifetime. even he acknowledges this kind of thinking and acting and behaving has been around since he was a kid but the system often doesn't pass information from one state to the next, so we don't have that continuity, that chain of information that could inform earlier intervention in a case like this. but even then we cannot predict that moment when someone is going to break. this was clearly quite methodical. folks with this personality are so preoccupied. they put 24/7 in thinking about how they're going to see through this grudge that they can hold for years and years. >> which leads me to the next question, tom. it was so meticulously planned, he prepped his twitter page, he taped, he posted video of the killing even after he committed it, even as he was being chased and hunted down by police in
virginia. i don't know what to make of it other than he wanted to get a lot of publicity presumably. he had nothing to do with isis or terrorism. they have these martyr videos to release. they want a lot of social media attention. he did as well. >> certainly, wolf. the coverage of isis would be a model for him to follow. the more gruesome and the more angles and the more you post about it and the more threats you issue on social media and issue a manifesto, all of that's going to ensure maximum coverage. and he is a professional in the media. he understood the media. he understood the power of it. he understood how to use it, how to manipulate it. in this case he's using both combination of mainstream live media couples with social media on top of it. he played the game completely
and it worked as far as that effect, if that's what he wanted to achieve, he succeeded. >> as we pointed out, he tried to copy what happened at university tech university ten years earlier, the same kind of gun, that block glock, he's praised them in this document he released. it's very chilling. that killer also released a suicide manifesto, if you will, at that time. all very shocking stuff, only about 40 miles from roanoke, from where this incident occurred. thanks very much. we'll stay in close touch with all of you. coming up, we're taking a closer look at how the shooting is affecting a very tight-knit community. the mayor of roanoke is standing by to join us live and, later, brand-new polls with some surprising results for donald trump, for joe biden and marco rubio.
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there were familiar faces on morning tv, faces people watched while they were getting ready for work or school. now the community in roanoke, virginia, is in mourning for alison parker and adam ward, shot and killed during a live broadcast. the mayor of roanoke is joining us live right now. mayor, thanks for joining us. how are the folks there coping
with all of this? >> the sun has been trying to come through all day long. i've been watching that, wolf, because the mood of our public is gloomy. we're in mourning. we're saddened and sickened by what we heard about these two very wonderful people and what happened here in our part of virginia. >> so many people knew them. you knew them as well, right? >> i did. ale son interviewed me a few weeks ago. adam i saw behind the camera. allison was a very bright -- not only bright, intelligently bright, she just had that energy. in the mornings i would sometimes wake up not fully awake and she would be ready to go.
she could always perk you up. was a great journalist. one of the great cbs affiliates in our nation and it's a big station here in person virginia. they're the ones that cover us, cover our snowstorms and they cover our political battles and our fairs and festivals. we get to know them and invite them into our homes as if they're our friends. this isn't just a loss for the wbdj employee family. this is the loss the people here feel. >> it hits especially hard. they've relied on us for material. alison parker when you had a bad snowstorm was doing live reports for cnn. a very moving report with our
own carol costello at the time. this killer, vester flanagan, went by the name bryce williams. did you ever get to meet him? i don't recall him at all. >> i wonder what folks have been saying about him. >> i don't care to know anything about him. >> we should learn lessons, though, from all of this, what has happened. >> you know what, what i'm trying to do is to help to heal our community. we feel this loss, these are two young folks who had the whole world ahead of them. i've not heard lately the condition of ms. gardner, the chamber of commerce lady.
we want to concentrate on them and their lives. to heal and to move on. >> we just learned, by the way, there's going to be a vigil in your community call stop the violence vigil. are there more plans -- what are you planning on doing as far as memorials, vigils, as a result of what happened yesterday? >> in front of wdbj tonight. i've heard but can't confirm the help save the next girl foundation will have a vigil here tomorrow night. i can't confirm those.
i'm sure wdbj's website as well will try and collate all of this information about the memorial services, the funeral plans and what have you. in addition i'm told that the station will be announcing scholarships at jmu for alison parker, james madison, university, and at virginia tech for adam ward. >> one final question, were you watching her live report yesterday morning when that killer came up there and shot and killed these two young people? >> no. no, i was walking my dogs around the street, but i saw it later, and it is absolutely shocking and horrifying. horrifying. >> and the thousands of people who were probably watching are still in a state of shock as well. it's just so awful. words can't describe these feelings for all of us. thanks very much, mayor. good luck to you and all the
folks in roanoke. it's a beautiful part of the commonwealth of virginia, and our hearts and prayers go out to all of you. thank you very much. >> thank you. just ahead, a former co-worker of this killer, vester flanagan, deals with feelings. lh lie here... looks like we have some sort of sea monster in the water hazard here. i believe that's a "kraken", bruce. it looks like he's going to go with a nine iron. that may not be enough club... well he's definitely going to lose a stroke on this hole. if you're a golf commentator, you whisper. it's what you do. if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. it's what you do. this golf course is electric... we stop arthritis pain, so you don't have to stop. because you believe in go. onward. today's the day. carpe diem.
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you were the morning anchor in tallahassee, florida, when a new weekend anchor named vester flanagan was hired. what was your experience with this guy? what was his personality like? >> initially, wolf, really didn't have too much of an interaction with him. nothing stood out. however, one thing i did notice is that shortly after he started after i got done with the morning newscast, i would go out and report and vester also happened to be a day side reporter, and at first it seemed like a joke but the photographers would say do you have a story lined up because i don't want to go out and work with vester. and at first it just seemed like a joke but then i would ask the photographers what's going on? they just said he happened to be difficult to work with, did not seem prepared, and so it was
like, okay. and then i witnessed some stuff on my own that he would do on air and it's like, wow. he would ask me a question about a story that i did that he's reading the introduction to or the tag to a story and just simply he would botch it and he would try to ad-lib and make the situation even worse after that. >> so what you're saying is he wasn't a very good journalist, he wasn't a very good reporter or anchor, but what about as a human being? did you get a sense that he was frustrated, that he was angry, that he had issues there, that he was behaving at all bizarre? >> two incidents. they happened on nights that i did not work there, which is really what soured a lot of feelings towards vester. he verbally assaulted two female co-workers and brought them to tears, and it got so bad that the husband of one of the women
threatened to come in and literally do him harm if he ever -- if he, being vester, ever talked to his wife like that again. >> that was a pretty scary moment, i'm sure. i'm sure you've been reflecting on what has gone on but, still, i assume you were shocked when you heard that this individual was responsible for murdering those two young journalists. >> beyond shocked, wolf. i woke up early yesterday morning here in anchorage, we're four hours behind you folks. to hear about the shootings first, wow. this was around 6:00. then around 7:00 we hear the name and i literally just woke back up like, are you kidding? and then all of us that worked in tallahassee just exchanged phone calls and notes online, and it became for a couple of the people especially the female employees that had dealings with him, tears, a lot of anger, and,
i'll be honest, i felt extreme anger yesterday because of the fact that it turns out that nothing changed in 15 years with him. he acted the same way to co-workers. and what got me upset in terms of being angry is that he could have done this to us, not necessarily me, but to my friends and many of them are still close today. >> dave leval in anchorage, alaska, thank you for sharing some thoughts. what a sad story this has been for all of us. up next, we'll move to politics. donald trump on center stage right now is opening his south carolina speech. a little hair talk, describing his own hair, among other things. but we'll get to some substance of what he's talking about and a lot more. brand-new poll shows he's doing very, very well. hands...where it belongs.
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let's get to politics here in the united states right now. the republican front-runner dault tr donald trump speaking to a loud crowd in a primary state. he started off having fun defending his hair against allegations it's a toupee. i don't wear a toupee. it's my hair. i swear. come here. come here. come here. i'm going to -- we're going to settle this -- you know, barbara walters did it. barbara walters named me the most whatever of the year. come on up here. they're going to let you. you have to do an inspection. real quick. we don't want to mess it up too much. i do use hairspray. please. >> yes, i believe it is.
>> thank you. and have i ever met you before? no. someone said it was a great compliment, a great business guy, the most unpredictable guy ever. that's what we need, some unpredictability. we really do. and this business guy who is a tough cookie said it as a compliment. we're so predictable. we're like bad checker players and we're playing against putin, who i would get along with great. i would get along with putin. when i look at jeb raising hundreds of millions of dollars, which is the only thing he has. without that he has nothing, zero. but he'll do attack adds on me. get ready. just like the crummy newspaper it will be false stuff. i've done a great job. maybe a little controversial but that's okay. i've done a great job.
>> trump has been buoyed by new polls. a poll that was released earlier this week on monday. here is where he stands in a brand-new quinn pe ipiac poll. he's on top, dr. ben carson second with 12%, three candidates there with 7% including jeb bush. let's discuss what's going on. donald trump wrapped up his speech. he's getting ready to walk over to the microphone. he's going to take some questions from reporters. we'll hear what he has to say. always interesting to hear this q&a with donald trump and the reporters. here he is right now. let's listen in, donald trump will be answering some reporters' questions in greenville, south carolina,
wrapping up that speech. >> how are you? questions? >> what about gun violence? well, i believe very strongly in the second amendment. we have people with mental disabilities, mental problems. it's too bad someone can't figure that out but we have a serious mental problem. we'd better start figuring it out fast. yes, go ahead. [ inaudible ]. >> i don't know. i just did so well with the evangelicals in the polls. i love them. they love me. i am protestant, prespresbyteri. why do they love me? you'll have to ask them but they do. i like ben carson very much. he's a friend of mine.
i'm not thinking about that right now. too many other things. >> how would you do that? >> if you look at jeb bush, he said he wouldn't fund women's health care issues, okay. i cherish women and i say it all the time. i cherish women. i will take care of women and i won't be going around saying i'm not going to fund a certain program. women under my administration will be taken care of. [ inaudible ]. >> well, all i do is some meet and greets. people ask me when i come in, when i say hello. i do meet and greets. other than the little donations where people send in $7 and $20 and even, you know, in some cases hundreds of dollars, all i do -- i will do on occasion a
meet and greet. yes, sir? >> there's a requirement to sign a pledge of the eventual nominee. will you sign that pledge? >> we have plenty of time to think about it. i think that's september 30th. there's a lot of time. we'll be making announcements on different things over the next couple of weeks. >> a lot of growing support -- [ inaudible ] does that concern you? >> that i don't know about. someone else mentioned that, also. i don't know about that. question? yes, go ahead. [ inaudible ]. >> about what? [ inaudible ] >> oh, i haven't heard about it but, you know, he was on the other side so he's saying things. he's a wonderful guy. he's a wonderful guy, a terrific guy, and i'm way ahead in iowa. i'm leading the polts by a lot even before sam joined, and we
love to have sam. i mean, obviously the fact that he joined, i think, says so much. we love having sam. [ inaudible ]. >> well, you're going to have to do something because you can't allow this to happen, and what happened in virginia is absolutely terrible. so sad to see this magnificent, these magnificent -- and the woman that was hurt, but these magnificent two people, so sad. something has to happen. at the same time it's not about the guns, it's about mental instability. you have people with great mental instability, and it's a shame because if you look at this man that did this horrible act, people knew that he was mentally unstable for years, and it's a shame that he couldn't have been in a hospital or something. yes, go ahead? [ inaudible ]. >> women's health issues -- >> i tell you what, she can maybe speak to jeb bush on that
issue because he was negative on women's health issues, but i've been very positive. my daughter ivanka and my wife melania know how i feel about women and women's health issues. they said you really should talk about it more. but for me it has to be a very major thing. i know jeb bush said some bad things and he said bad on asian. he's talking about anchor babies and steered it over to the asians and now they're upset with jeb bush. so you're going to have to ask him about those, but i will take care of women's health and women's health issues better than anybody and far better than hillary clinton who doesn't have a clue. and i don't think maybe she won't even be in the race. we'll see. but maybe she won't. >> the african-american community? >> well, i've had great friendships in the african-american community. as you know, they're suffering. they've never had bad job numbers like they do right now
he especially african-american youth. it's terrible what's happening. as you see, i have great relationships because you're seeing the poll numbers. one of the things that was so nice in south carolina and other places where they do the polls and they break the polls down, i do great in the african-american community. and, you know, one of the reasons they know i'm going to create jobs. but i've had a great relationship with the african-american community. i appreciate the question. [ inaudible ] >> the south is full of jobs. >> many jobs are taken from the united states because our trade negotiators are the worst. we don't have people who know anything about negotiation. by the way, you can go back to the iran deal, go back to trade deals. we don't have anybody in this country who knows what they're doing in terms of negotiation. we have a president who doesn't have a clue, and that will all change. our country will be great again, that i can tell you.
[ inaudible ] >> well, i mean, i got a poll that was much higher. i'm at 30%. he's at 4%. i think he's lucky to be at 4%, to be honest. i would not want to be him running for office in south carolina. i think he's been a terrible representative for south carolina. and all he does is attack me, his whole line is to attack donald trump, and the beauty is he went down to zero. he got zero. that means out of thousands of people, he got nobody. i don't know how you get zero. so i think it's really, you know, got to be a point it's almost laughable but his primary mode of getting elected is to attack trump. he went from 4% to 2% to zero. he's zero right now. he made a big mistake when he ran because the people of south carolina are watching this farce and i think they're very upset by it. he has not been a good representative for south carolina. with that being said, i lead the poll in south carolina, and i lead with almost -- with every
group including, as we said, the african-american groups. they came out and i have tremendous support. i will be coming down here soon and making a speech in front of small business, african-americans small business, and i lock forward to that. >> mr. trump? >> yes, sir, go ahead. >> the race relation talks -- >> it's a great question. race relation problems are almost at an all time worst and two things. we need jobs and we need spirit. and, you know, president obama, i really thought that he would be a unifier. he's not experienced. i don't know how he's going to do. he won the election. but i thought one thing he'd be a unifier certainly between african-american and white. and i will tell you that's turned out not to be so. he's been a divider. we need spirit in the country. we need cohesiveness and we need jobs. we'll get it fixed. we'll get it fixed. i mean, they're great people. they want jobs so badly.
you look at african-american youth. 50%, 60%, 70% unemployment. we'll get it fixed. we'll take them back from china. we'll take them back from japan. we'll take them back from mexico. we'll take jobs back. we're going to have jobs in this country. okay. . there's report out. have you heard anything about that? and what is [ inaudible ]? >> i am presbyterian. the church i was originally with was the first presbyterian church which is out of queens, new york. i've had great experience with it, whether it's sunday school or whatever it may be. now i go to marlboro collegiate church. >> how often do you go? >> as often as i can. at some point i'll meet with
ministers and pastors one of the very sad things is with the iran deal, we have a pastor over there in iran right now as a prisoner because he's a pastor, because he's a christian. we have four other people. you tell me, why aren't these negotiators who made this horrible deal with iran 24 days, they do their own inspections, they get $150 billion or more, why aren't they releasing the prisoners? you have a journalist, you have four great people. one of them is there because he's a christian. why didn't they say release our prisoners? and that should have happened two years ago. we are talking to ted cruz, a good guy and friend of mine. it will be announced and it's
essentially a protest against the totally incompetent deal that we're making with iran. by the way, they are going to get hundreds of billions of dollars even if you break it up. you know what i would do, i wouldn't give them the money. i don't care what the deal. i would not give them the money. that deal will be announced over -- that location will be announced. >> you mentioned [ inaudible ]. could you expand what you mean by that? >> you have a silent majority in this court that feels abused, that feels forgotten, that feels mistreated. it's a term that hasn't been brought up in years. people haven't heard that term in many years. it's interesting as to why. there are all different reasons. every time i speak, i have sold-out crowds. every time i speak, i have standing ovations. every single time. it's the silent majority. they want to see wins. they want to see us have victory. we're not having victory anymore in this country, whether it's
military, whether it's even the building of our military. you see what's going on? every day i get listings of bases that are for sale. our military is virtually for sale. i'm in the real estate business. i'm always getting listings and they are for an army base, a military base, for a naval base. our vets are being treated horribly. we have vets that are the best people. our wounded warriors are being treated terribly. and these are the best people we have in this country. and if i win, believe me, they are not going to be fourth-class citizens. they are going to be number one. our vets, our wounded warriors. we are going to treat them the way they should have been treated. but they are being treated horrible. okay? >> are you worried about the history of that term? >> i'm not worried about it. i'm bringing it to moderate day. there is no better expression
for what is happening because this is a movement. there's no better expression for what's happening than the expression, silent majority. because that's what is happening. people are coming out. in alabama, we had more than 30,000 people on a very warm day with rain getting ready to pour down. and in a stadium. it was unbelievable. you saw 4,000 people the other night in iowa. you saw what happened in new hampshire. you saw what happened today for a luncheon. where it broke every record. we have a silent majority that wants this country to have victories again and we're going to do it. thank you all very much. thank you. >> all right. so there he is in greenville, south carolina. the republican presidential front-runner answering reporters' questions as he likes to do following his big speeches. let's get some analysis of what we just heard. joining us, our political commentators, s.e. cupp and
nia-malika henderson. s.e., what did you think? >> asking for analysis of either the speech or those questions is a heavy lift, wolf. it's hard to analyze when someone answers questions with total nonsequeters. when asked about women issues, he said jeb bush would not fund women's issues, which is not true. he said ask my wife and daughter if i'm good on wife shooters. what about mass shootings? something has to be done. again, there's not a lot of substance when it comes to trump. so where he distracts, diverts, touch my hair, i don't know. there's not a lot for me to sort of weigh in on because he's not very meaty with actual solutions to problems that a lot of voters want addressed. >> having said that, you know,
look at this new poll out today. nationwide, republican voters, 28% for trump, 12% for dr. ben carson, cruz, rubio, 10%. everybody else, a lot, lot lower. what was your analysis? what did you think? >> well, what i noted, aside from the polls, he referred to ben carson as his friend and good friend. and then he also apparently pulled back the curtain he intends to do with ted cruz. all three of those people are what we call in the trade the outsiders in this. if you add up dr. carson's numbers in this poll with donald trump's, you're getting to about 40%. and you bring in ted cruz and whenever this rally is going to be, what this says to me is this rebellion within the republican party towards the establishment is really gaining steam and backed up by the numbers.
>> ron brownstein, you study the numbers all the time. if you bring in carly fiorina, another 5%, you're getting close to a majority of outsiders, nonprofessional politicians who are doing well. >> it's a very interesting point. it's a very valid point. what we're seeing is a lot of rebellion in the republican party against the establishment is choices and the way the party has been happening. ted cruz has to get past that. i would point out in the quinnipiac poll, only one-third says he has the temperament to handle international aspects. he's low on everything except leadership. so while it shows the strength and real nerve that he's winning, it also shows his limits. >> nia, go ahead.
>> i think the anti-establishment point, in jeb bush's numbers, he's at 7%. the argument for him has been that he's going to be a joyful tortoise. he's going to have to speed it up because you see donald trump going after him he's trying to be more aggressive. >> trump trails bush among republicans on all of them except leadership. there's still a lot of respect for bush. he has not touched the nerve. there's a well that he can draw on if he finds a way to connect more viscerally. >> trump likes to make fun of jeb bush. nice guy, i like him personally but he's got low energy, not very dynamic, we don't know what he says. he sort of makes fun of him like
that. >> i think the other thing you have to remember in this poll is that trump is also the person more republicans say they would never vote for than anyone else. and the anti-establishment coalition is important to keep in mind but in the ends we don't vote for four people. we vote for one people. so as ron points out, they are either going to cannibalize each other. there's a long way to go before he convinces people that he's the majority nominee. >> he's doing well in the polls not only nationally among the republicans but state by state, iowa, new hampshire, south carolina. take a look at florida and some of the other states. >> but not a majority, wolf. not a majority. >> but he's doing a lot better than the other republican candidates. >> yep. >> all right. we'll see what happens, guys.
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