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it's 1:00 p.m. in washington, 7:00 p.m. in budapest, 8:00 p.m. in damascus. wherever you're watching from around the world, thanks very much for joining us. up first, presidential candidates in the united states staking out positions against the iran nuclear deal and in favor of tax reform. we're covering two developing stories playing out this hour. right now on capitol hill in washington, opponents are holding a rally blasting the agreement. among the headliners who will be speaking, senator ted cruz, donald trump, and the former alaska governor and the former vice presidential nominee sarah palin. in garner, north carolina, meanwhile, republican presidential candidate jeb bush getting ready to outline his tax
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reform plan. in a "wall street journal" op-ed, bush calls for reducing individual tax brackets to three and lowering the corporate tax rate to 20%. today's rally against the iran nuclear deal in washington takes place as congress gears up to vote on this deal president obama has the support he needs to keep opponents from scutting the deal and today the democratic presidential front-runner hillary clinton strongly defended the agreement. she also took direct aim at her republican rivals. >> several republican candidates boast they'll tear up this agreement in 2017. more than a year after it's been implemented. that's not leadership, that's recklessness. it would set us right down the very dangerous path we've worked so hard to avoid. >> our chief political correspondent dana bash is on capitol hill covering this anti-iran deal rally. dana, how are things shaping up?
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set the scene for us? >> it's a big crowd, wolf. this is the place and really the kind of crowd that we saw about six years ago when the tea party began to really build and grow and during the whole debate over obamacare. it's the same kind of crowd and the same host, the tea party patriots are the ones that hosted this rally. ted cruz is the going to be a speaker here and it was he who invited his opponent donald trump. you were joking about the fact that they've been having a bromance on the campaign trail even though they're competitors and that's certainly bearing it here. they do agree very much on the idea that this iran deal is the wrong way to go but what we'll hear from them and the fact that they're both going to be speaking in the next hour illustrates the split within the republican field. ted cruz is one of those republicans that hillary clinton was talking about.
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he wants to whip up the iran deal on day one and donald trump says he comes at it from more of a negotiator and a businessman's perspective that you can't necessarily rip it up on day one so you have to take a wait-and-see approach. but the reason why ted cruz wanted donald trump here is obvious and he actually admits it. with donald trump comes media and big crowds and he wants a lot of attention to this issue, wolf. >> so what's the point, though, since the president has enough democrats in the senate, 41 or 42, that's more than enough that he needs to make sure that his veto is sustained if it comes down to that. so what's the point of the rally? >> that's a great question. he has enough people who say that they don't like the republicans' idea of trying to legislatively scuttle the deal but not enough who have actually committed to a filibuster of that so that's the key and it gets technical but the bottom line is they still feel like they have some persuading to do.
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the people in this crowd and elsewhere. inside this building as this is happening there is a move among some republicans to try to delay votes to scuttle this deal because they're hoping to use a little bit more time to shore up the opposition to the deal and the votes to oppose it. so that's a big reason why this will continue to go on. also the fact that they could haven't this rally for the past five or six weeks because congress wasn't here and that's timing that has worked in barack obama's favor no question. the deal was done and then congress left town for summer recess. >> dana, you raise a very important point. some republicans in the house of representatives and in the senate for that matter are trying to delay any vote. they're arguing now that that 60-day window during which congress is supposed to take legislation -- legislative action on this iran nuclear deal, that hasn't started because the legislation authorizing that 60 day window
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stipulates that the text of the agreement and all related materials and annexes must be presented to congress. they argue there's still deals between the iaea, the international atomic energy agency and iran that they haven't seen. as a result the 60 days hasn't started and that's why they're not ready to vote. what are you hearing about that. >> and there seems to be a split in the republican party about that. manu raju and ted welch have been doing reporting as we speak about this developing rift and maybe even more specifically the developing desire by people like ted cruz and maybe some of his conservative compatriots in the house trying to convince the leadership to delay it using exactly the argument you used to say it's a technicality that the 60 day window that didn't open up and doesn't until the legislation is written. so we'll see what happens. at this point it's a debate,
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maybe not even a fight, a debate within the republican part yy a leadership? the house and senate about what to do with that. >> it's more than a technicality because the proponents of those who say the 60 day window hasn't started, they make the nunt the administration can't unilaterally start easing sanctions against iran until that 60 day window is over. they say the 60 days hasn't even started so there's a practical impact that could be there as well if they delay this vote. dana, stand by. i want to talk about what's going on, the major capitol hill rally against the iran deal as well as hillary clinton's apology over the e-mail controversy coming to the fore right now. joining us, our cnn political commentators donna brazile and ana navarro. donna, what do you make of the 60 day argument? it's technical but practically the speaking the administration, if the republicans have their way, they won't be able to ease unilateral u.s. sanss against iran if the u.s. congress hasn't
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taken up the legislation. >> as you know, both speaker boehner and mr. -- leader mcconnell have stated they want to hold votes this week. technically on july 19 when the legislation was transmitted it complied with what the corker agreement was which was the legislation as well as -- i mean the negotiation plus all of the side deals. members of congress have had all summer to review all of these so-called side deals. you and i can't review them but they have had an opportunity. the republicans don't want to vote on this. they don't have the votes to overcome the president's veto. they know that, this is a fight within the republican party. the agreement will be implemented by the obama administrati administration. >> what do you make of the latest move to scuttle or at least delay the deal. >> i think opponents of this deal -- and not only folks in congress, people lake aipac, are going to be all over the place trying to figure out technical ways to delay or cancel this deal. i can tell you, i have a lot of
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very powerful jewish friends who are hitting the halls of congress today putting pressure on their congress people and senators not to go along with these plans. >> let's talk about hillary clinton, what's going on with her e-mail. suddenly she's apologizing robustly after refusing to do so for months. what's going on? >> well, i just want to respond. the jewish friends on both sides of the aisle who both oppose and support this deal understand the importance of the united states continuing to protect israel and regardless of what the vote is this week, democrats and republicans will be united not just in supporting israel but all about allies in the middle east. to her apology, i don't know how many times she can say it. it took six months for her to say two words instead of four words. the fact is she's sincere, she acknowledges it's a mistake. will it stop the issue from being a front page story? no. we'll see more e-mails. we're going to know more about her. we know she likes parks and recreation and the good wife, we'll know more about her
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e-mails. i'm glad she said it but i don't think it will change anything. >> here's a clip of some of the stuff she said over these past several months responding to this e-mail uproar. listen to this. >> i opted for convenience to use my personal e-mail account which was allowed by the state department. i want people to understand what the truth is. and the truth is everything i did was permitted. >> did you wipe the servers? >> what, like with a cloth or something? . my use of personal e-mail was allowed by the state department. at the end of the day i am sorry that this has been confusing to people and has raised questions. >> that was a mistake, i'm sorry about that. i take responsibility and i'm trying to be as transparent as i possibly can. >> so a lot of people think she should have said that from the beginning. what's your analysis, ana? >> six months is a long time and she's been going through this
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for six months. the analysis is it's a constant drip, drip, drip that hasn't gone away and has forced her to be more forceful about this issue. she tried humor, that failed. she tried being flip, that failed. she's parsed legally the words. that hasn't worked well. obviously this is a plan of the new spontaneous humane show a heart hillary. it's also includes show some remorse. >> some democrats say better late than never, though, right? >> the fact is it was legal for her to do it and right now we know more e-mails will come out. but will hillary clinton be able to compete for the democratic nomination? yes. will joe biden likely come in? perhaps. will bernie sanders continue to generate a lot of support and martin o'malley? yes, we'll have a competitive primary. >> i tell you something, it wouldn't take joe biden six months to say i'm sorry. >> and i don't think had a private server in his house, either. >> all right, guys, we'll stay on tom of what's going on.
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for the latest in politics and the presidential contenders, head over to stay with us, we're keeping an eye on this anti-iran deal rally happening on capitol hill. you're looking at live pictures. donald trump and senator ted cruz are getting ready to speak. and i'll get reaction from the ranking member of the house intelligence committee, congressman adam schiff, he supports the iran nuclear deal. and later i'll speak live with presidential candidate rand paul. he's standing by. we'll talk about the poll, tax plan, his constituent, kim davis in kentucky who is refusing to sign those marriage certificates for same-sex couples.
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republican presidential rivals donald trump and senator ted cruz have teamed up for a joint attack on president obama's nuclear deal with iran. take a look at this, live pictures coming from capitol hill, both candidates scheduled to speak this hour as well as the former alaskan governor sarah palin. trump has blasted this nuclear deal with iran all along. >> you look at hillary clinton and i've said she's the worst secretary of state in the history of this country. now, in all fairness, because of the agreement that's about to be finalized with iran, john kerry may very well take her place. i think that agreement is a disaster for this country, for israel, for the middle east. it's going to lead to nuclear proliferation, the 24-day clause, everything about -- we don't even get our prisoners back. you say who negotiates a thing like that? that won't happen, i can guarantee, you a president trump. >> let's bring in california
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representative adam schiff, he's the ranking democrat in the house intelligence committee, he support this is nuclear deal with iran. what do you say to donald trump, congressman? he obviously says this is a bad deal for the united states. >> well, i think it makes it impossible for them to develop a covert enrichment capability so i disagree strongly with mr. trump. he's running for president and it's not the first outlandish thing he has said, it won't the last. if you give it a thoughtful analysis, this agreement has much to like and much not to like but on balance it's better than any credible alternative and any objection by congress would leave us isolated and leave iran's nuclear program unconstrained going into the future. >> i want to get your reaction to this move afoot among some republicans in the house of representatives to delay a vote. it was supposed to be this week, a resolution of disapproval against the iran nuclear deal.
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some of them are now saying that 60-day clock for congressional consideration was supposed to begin a couple months ago. it hasn't started because the white house has not turned over all relevant material to congress. what's your reaction to that? >> well, i have to say it's baffling because in the senate the gop is arguing we need to have a vote on this, there can't be a filibuster and in the house effectively republicans are threatening to fill bust err vote on the agreement so it's baffling. i do think it's quite a strained interpretation to say that the corker legislation would require that the president submit to congress an agreement that the iaea is precluded from even sharing with the administration. but the reality is -- and i don't think the gop members are fooling anyone -- even if they were to get this agreement, it's not as if that would change their minds and having this agreement would cause them to vote for it. nobody expects that to happen at all. so this is merely, i think, a distraction that's not in our national interest to delay this
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debate and delay having a final up or down or at least a vote on the agreement in one form or fashion. >> very quickly, because i want to move on to talk about the refugees flooding europe right now but very quickly, some of these republicans say this tactical maneuver, they argue the 60 day clock hasn't started and the administration can't unilaterally ease sanctions against iran without that 60 day clock being over with. your point? >> my point is i think the 60-day clock is over. i don't think it's a fair reading of the corker bill to say it contemplates a requirement that the administration turn over something that the iaea hasn't given it and by its own rules can't give the administration so i think the administration will have the power to release the sanctions and go forward the agreement and i think for the united states to be in the position of reneging on a compact agreed to by the other world powers will only isolate
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us, it will only cause the sanctions regime to erode and iran will get many of the benefits of the deal in terms of its access to world markets with none of the limits of the deal on its nuclear program i so i think rea rejection whether it takes the form of delay in the house, this putting off or some kind of an actual overriding the president's veto, either way it's a dissafs to our national security interests. >> you've seen congressman the dramatic pictures of these refugees from syria, iraq, north africa flooding europe right now. secretary kerry said the u.s. is looking for a way to take many more refugees. there are concerns as you well know and you're a member of the intelligence committee that isis could potentially be trying to sneak some isis activists disguised as refugees into the united states. is that a serious security concern? >> it's certainly a serious security concern but i think that's a security concern that we can address and have to address and can't be used as
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justification for not doing our part to help this humanitarian relief effort. two years ago i led a bipartisan effort to seek to allow humanitarian parole of substantial number of syrian immigrants who very family-based petitions approved. so these are petitions with families in the united states who have their petitions approved but because of visa limits can't get to be reunited with their families in the united states. i'm renewing that effort now. it's a way i think we can show consistent with our security needs and all the security checks that will have to be done but consistent with that to show we are doing our part to meet the humanitarian crisis. >> congressman schiff, thanks very much for joining us. >> thanks, wolf. coming up, one on one with the republican presidential candidate rand paul. the kentucky senator standing by to joining us live. we'll discuss everything from that same-sex marriage fight going on in his home state, defunding planned parenthood and more. stay with us the
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. let's quickly listen in to senator ted cruz speaking out about the administration's nuclear deal with iran. let's listen briefly. >> this catastrophic deal is that it abandons four american hostages in an iranian hell hole including pastor sayyid abedini, an american citizen, a christian pastor sentenced to eight years in prison for the crime of preaching the gospel. including former marine hekmati, including "washington post" reporter jason ressia iares sig rezaian. it's a disgrace for this administration to abandon americans in iranian hell holes. but the third consequence of this deal going through if it does is that it will facilitate
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and accelerate the nation of iran acquiring nuclear weapons. there is no greater threat to the safety and security of america. there is no greater threat to the safety and security of israel than a nuclear iran. i agree with prime minister netanyahu. [ cheers and applause ] that a nuclear iran poses an existential threat to the nation of israel. and let me be clear, when he says "existential" he doesn't mean a bunch of black berets chain smoking. when prime minister netanyahu addressed a joint session of congress, a joint session that president obama boycotted, that vice president joe biden boycotted, that every member of the panel boycotted.
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i participated in a discussion with elie wiesel, the holocaust observer and he observed the one threat on the face of the earth capable of murdering six million jews in an instant in a flash of light is a nuclear iran. elie wiesel observed means "never again means never again." [ cheers and applause ] the second group i want to address are democratic senators and democratic members of congress. [ boos ] right now today 42 senate democrats have come out in support of this deal. [ boos ] it is my hope and prayer that every one of those senate democrats reconsiders. that they go home and they fall to their knees and they pray tonight. i agree with former democratic senator joe lieberman that this vote is quite likely the most important vote that any member
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of congress, any member of the senate will cast in their entire career there was a time when that was tradition of scoop jackson democrats, of jfk democr democrats, of joe lieberman democrats. of democrats who were willing to defend national security. sadly, that is becoming rarer and rarer in today's congress. so receiver democratic senator, do you value standing with our friend and ally, the nation of israel? do you value the lives of millions of americans or do you value more party loyalty to the obama white house? to every democratic senator who said he or she will support this deal i ask you to consider how will you look in the eyes of the
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mothers and fathers of our soldiers, the hundreds of soldiers, american soldiers who were murdered in iraq with iranian ieds that came from general soleimani? this deal lifts sanctions on general soleimani. [ boos ] tell me if you're a democratic senator how you look a mom in the eyes and say "i voted to lift sanctions on the man who murdered your son when he was defending this nation." >> all right, we're going to continue to monitor senator ted cruz in his speech against the iran nuclear deal. we're also standing by for donald trump. he's speaking that the rally as well. joining us right now is the kentucky senator and republican presidential candidate rand paul. let me get your quick reaction to what's going on on capitol hill. are you planning on attending this rally, first of all, senator? >> no, i won't be there. but i do oppose the iranian agreement but i don't oppose it because i oppose negotiations and i don't oppose it because i wish the negotiations to fail. i oppose it simply because i don't think there's enough
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leverage to enforce compliance with iran. so -- but i don't wish the negotiations to fail and i think there is a difference. i do want there to be a peaceful resolution here, i just don't think the final agreement had enough leverage to enforce compliance. >> do you believe the administration has handed over all related documents and material to you and other members of the senate and house in order to be fully transparent about what this deal includes? >> no. i think there's a side agreement that was signed between the international atomic energy agency and with iran that we haven't been allowed to see and i think this is in defiance of the structure that was set up by the corker bill. the corker bill said that the administration would turn over all agreements and i don't think that president obama has been forth coming with all of the agreements so i really think at this point there should be some consideration of simply going into executive commission, executive committee for the
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senate and considering this is a treaty and voting on it as a treaty and that's what i would propose. >> well, i think the administration will oppose that. let's talk about other issues. senator kim davis, the kentucky clerk in your home state, is out of jail. she had been in contempt of court for refusing to sign those marriage licenses for same-sex couples. do you think she should be back on the job doing her job if she continues to refuse to honor what the united states supreme court ruled -- interpreted the constitution as saying a few months ago that everyone in the united states, men and women, homosexual, let sweheterosexual have a right to get married? >> well, the supreme court said that but there is the religious freedom restoration act that that passed in 2013 in kentucky. i don't think they're necessarily contradictory. what the religious freedom act says is that an elected official doesn't have to do something contrary to their religious believes if there can be found
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an accommodation around that. i think ms. davis has offered that and that would be to stamp the licenses either by a notary or to have rowan county on them and she would file them as she does any other contract. it's as if she's giving specific approval to a religious objection. so i thought there was an in between, between continuing to issue contracts -- and i think adults have the right to have a contract -- but there's a place for people who have a religious objection not to have to sign something and give their stamp of approval to something they disapprove of. >> we'll see if that can be finessed in kentucky, your home state. let's talk about taxes. you've unveiled your own major tax plan, jeb bush unveiling a tax plan that would in effect raise taxes for hedge fund managers, basically that's what donald trump wants to do as well, lowering individual and
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corporate tax rates as at the same time. what's your reaction? i don't know if you had a chance to review jeb bush's tax proposals. compare and contrast his with yours. >> i think the main con strast my tax proposal would make government smaller. the bush proposal would keep government the same size, it would mandate new taxes that are not mandatory on companies to bring their money home and i think overall you wouldn't see a dramatic change in government. my tax proposal makes government draw platally smaller. i get rid of all 70,000 pages of the tax code, gets rid of the irs and allows people to file their tax return on one page. 14.5% for everybody. so mine is a simple plan but mine makes government smaller, i'm afraid jeb bush's plan would continue government at about the same size. >> senator paul thanks very much for joining us, i know you have to run. >> thanks, wolf. >> senator rand paul is a republican presidential candidate. jeb bush talking about his tax
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approved, they get it just for going to the table. we can talk about the fact that we have four wonderful people over there and, frankly, they're never going to come back with this group. and i will say this, if i win the presidency, i guarantee you that those four prisoners are back in our country before i ever take office. i guarantee that. [ cheers and applause ] they will be back before i ever take office because they know that's what has to happen. they know it and if they don't know it i'm telling them right now. so i have a story that just came out an hour ago and as president obama calls him very routinely, he calls him the supreme leader.
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our president is calling the person who is really the boss in iran "supreme leader." and i look at people shaking their heads, i can't believe it. but it just came out a little while ago he said "israel will not exist in 25 years." think of that. he just said this. he also said very strongly, very, very strongly, that is that this is the end of our deals with the united states, we want nothing more to do with them, we're not going to do anything right here. we made the deal, it's a phenomenal deal. we're not going to deal with the united states anymore and that's what he just said and this was a very short period of time ago so they rip us off they take our money, they make us look like fools and now they're become to being who they really are.
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they don't want israel to survive. they won't let israel survive. with incompetent leadership like we have right now israel will not survive and then when it's all done or they think it's all done they come out with these unbelievable nasty statements that israel won't be around in 25 the years and that we have no dealings and that we will have no further deals with the united states. now the people that we were negotiating with and were working on the sanctions with, including and as an example russia, who's selling tremendous missile to iran, you know that, ballistic missiles being sold. all of these countries, all of these countries are going to do business with iran. they're going to make lots of money and lots of other things with iran and we're going to do and we're going to get nothing. nothing. we are led by very, very stupid
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people. [ cheers and applause ] very, very stupid people. we can not let it continue. we are a country that owes $19 trillion. we lose everywhere. we lose militarily. we can't beat isis. give me a break. we can't beat anybody. our vets are being treated horribly. it will change. we will have so much winning if i get elected that you may get bored with winning. believe me. i agree, you'll never get bored with winning. we never get bored. we are going to turn this country around. we are going to start winning big league on trade, militarily, we're going to build up our military. we're going to have such a strong military that nobody, nobody is going to mess with us. we won't have to use it.
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[ cheers and applause ] i really, really appreciate this tremendous crowd. we are going to make america great again. the thank you. thank you very much. thank you. >> so there you heard donald trump mincing no words at all. he hate this is proposed nuclear deal with iran. he made that abundantly clear. ana navarro, donna brazile are here with me. let's get some reaction. he said these are stupid people referring to the president of the united states, the secretary of state of the united states, those who negotiated this deal with iran. he says the united states gets nothing, iran gets everything. those are his words. you heard that. >> well, unfortunately i'm sure that mr. trump has not had an opportunity to read the deal. he has probably not had an opportunity to really digest how complicated it was to get the p5+1 nations together to even make these steps. look, this has tough enforcement agreements, we know that we can not trust iranians, no one is
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sleeping on this. this is a sensible approach. it's not perfect but i don't believe donald trump is ready. what you heard just now is what i call the litany of insults that donald trump likes to -- the soundbites so to speak rather than getting into the deep substance of what this agreement will or will not. >> do he is resonating with republicans out there if you look at the polls right now. i know you support jeb bush, ana, but if you look at the national republican polls in iowa and new hampshire, south carolina, florida, your home state, he's number one in all those polls. >> he is. i think part of it is the entertainment factor. i think part is the fact that he is so politically incorrect and a lot of it is that people are tired of politics as usual and politicians as usual. they see him as an outsider, they see him as a businessman who's had success and they think let's give this a shot. will this carry through the fall? it's yet to see. i think what we just saw is a typical donald trump speech -- light on detail, big on insults.
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>> if he gets the republican nomination, the presidential nomination, donna, how worried should democrats be that he would be their challenging going into the presidential year next year. >> well, you know, donald trump, for all of the hoopla and all of the other media attention, look, he's insulted latinos, he's insulted minorities, he's insulted women. he's attacked women. donald trump, if he wins the republican nomination, i think it will destroy the republican brand as we know it for the future. in terms of the democrats, it will be a robust selection because the parties are evenly divided. i think we'll win that contest. >> the interesting thing, though, every time he insults x, y, or z, fill in the blank, his numbers go up. it tells you, i think, that people are tired of walking onning she shells when it comes to political correctness and speech police. >> is it politically correct to insult john mccain? is itlially correct to go after an anchor woman for doing her
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job? >> listen, you're preaching -- >> he may be winning in the polls now because insult cans maybe get you to 30%, 33% -- >> i don't know if you know this, donna, but ana is no big fan of donald trump. >> you're preaching to the choir. >> by the way, we're fully awake while we have this discussion. >> one week from today the second republican presidential debate at the reagan library. >> we'll be there. >> one week from today. >> donald trump wants us to pay him to be there. >> 6:00 p.m. and 8:00 p.m. eastern. tomorrow is a major day on cnn as well. donald trump will be a guest on "new day" during the 7:00 a.m. eastern hour. jeb bush will be a guest on "the lead" with jake tapper during 2 d 4:00 p.m. eastern hour. make sure to catch both tomorrow here on cnn. by the way, tomorrow night on "ac 360" we will release the names of those who are in the debates. the initial debate that starts at 6:00 p.m. eastern and the major prime time debate that starts at 8:00 p.m. eastern tomorrow night 8:00 p.m. eastern the final list will be released.
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much more news right after this.
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-- this expression here in north carolina and north florida. they have a pretty good expression that describes it which is we need to let the big dog eat. we need to -- we need to focus on creating a fair environment and then let people pursue their dreams as they see fit and not have to go to washington, d.c., shifting power away from washington will create a more dynamic innovative america.
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[ applause ] . >> so another question, manufacturing businesses like ours here in north carolina have a difficult time competing with foreign companies and countries like china because of the low wages they pay their employees. what does your plan and proposal do to make us more competitive and bring more manufacturing jobs back to america? >> well, think about what -- the difference between a 35% tax rate and a 20% tax rate is. it's the difference between not hiring somebody effectively -- it's a -- effectively by having a 35% tax rate it's a tax on wages. it's a tax on -- on people's aspirations. it's a tax on job creation. if you lower the rates and then reward investing in plant and equipment, you're going to become competitive when you add to that the need for regulatory reform, the need to make sure that the trade practices are fair, the need to embrace the
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energy revolution. we can create lower costs with higher productivity. the tax code is the first step in this. it's not the only one, but if we're creating a tax code like the one i'm prosewsing, i can guarantee you that we'll be competitive. you read almost every week there's another story of a smaller foreign business buying a larger u.s. business and locating in a place where the domicile has got a lower tax. the net effect of that is jobs go overseas, of course, and corporate taxes aren't collected here. by eliminating the worldwide taxation system where the only major country to have it to move to in effect a territorial tax system will also allow us to be significantly competitive. china has a 25% tomorrow rat tax rate. they have rising costs. they have real challenges in this country. the new american century can be ours if we fix these things. the notion that somehow we have to surrender economic competitiveness to countries like china, i reject out of hand. we still have the most dynamic
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country in the world. the animal spirits still exist inside of americans. we've just got to unclog the system of entrepreneurial capitalism by reforming how washington, d.c. works, and i know how to do this because i did it as governor of the state of florida. [ applause ] >> all right. you get a little flavor of what's going on there in garner, north carolina. want to bring back donna brazile and ana navarro. is he making good points on how to reform the tax system? >> sound a lot like mitt romney's tax proposal where he wanted to lower the top rate down to 2%. he did not outline how we'll cut deficit and how we'll make up for the loss of revenue >> you heard rand paul when i interviewed him earlier this hour saying in effect what he's
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doing is keeping the tax revenue the same. big government will be the same with jeb bush. under rand paul and his tax proposal government will shrink. >> i think that's a hard acquisition to make against jeb bush because he had eight years as governor of florida to show us proof that what he did was cut spending, cut the size of government. i can tell you he was not the most popular governor for a lot of government employees precisely because of that. >> were you surprised last night on stephen colbert he disagreed with his brother, the former president of the united states, saying that george w. bush allowed the government simply to remain huge? >> yeah. i mean, he has said that many times, that he disagreed with his brother, that his brother was not able to control republican spending and government spend when he was president. >> and he also had the same tax cut that his brother had back in 2001, across-the-board tax cuts. george bush said it would be $1.1 billion, and it ended up being trillions of dollars.
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>> there's things in this plan you should like. good for you and me. >> i like the earned income tax credit for the working poor. >> we'll continue to watch these policies that the candidates are coming up with. that's it for me. the news continues next on cnn right after a quick break. why do so many people choose aleve? it's the brand more doctors recommend for minor arthritis pain. plus, just two aleve can last all day. you'd need 6 tylenol arthritis to do that. aleve. all day strong. the news continues next on cnn a nascar® driver... a comedian... and a professional golfer have in common? we talked to our doctors about treatment with xarelto®. xarelto® is proven to treat and help reduce the risk of dvt and pe blood clots. xarelto® has also been proven
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