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carries? an electric razor, a prayer book, novelty rose sear beads and a tooth brush. cnn with don lemon starts now. such a remarkable day today as we follow the pope from the halls of congress, anderson, to the streets of new york. i was watching you and wolf. you were very excited. the he made note of how excited you were. what was the most memorable for you? >> certainly, seeing him in person when he would turn around as you are showing the individual crow right there. i was hitting wolf. it was like, wolf, stop looking at the monitor. turn around and look at the pope for goodness saeks. there was a moment after he spoke in st. patrick's when he was leaving st. patrick's cathedral. there were two elderly ladies who i don't think were able to get up. in this huge crowd, he could have walked right by. he zeroed in on them and bent down so he was at their eye level. he spoke to them. i don't know what he said. the smiles on their faces were
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just beaming. he took the time with the entire world watching and thousands of people waiting and tens of thousands of people waiting on the streets that he took the time to speak to these two ladies and made no doubt such an impression on them. that made a huge impression on me. i just found it an incredibly touching, touching moment. >> i remember covering him in st. louis. in the middle of my life show, as he was dgoing by, my voice started going higher and higher. it was the actual pope coming. the city feels different. maybe it is the traffic but it really does feel different. we will be out there covering it tomorrow. it is going to be an extraordinary day ahead tomorrow, isn't it? >> yes. to be down at ground zero for an inter-faith service that he is going to be at, that is going to be an extraordinary moment. that, for me, will certainly be
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the thing i'll look forward to the most tomorrow. meeting with the families and others affected by 9/11 as so many were. >> see you bright and early. my end time is 6:00 a.m. see you tomorrow, anderson. i want to bring in "new york times" columnist, frank bruney here with me, father edward beck, cnn religion commentator. it really is and was a monumental day for catholics and lawmakers and americans every we are. we have seen a few public addresses from this pope since he arrived. what do you see the theme emerging here? >> well, i was amazed today, don, by his speech at congress. i didn't expect any of that. the people that he named as the heroes and role models. to start with lincoln and martin luther king and dorothy day and thomas merton. most catholics or practicing
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catholics know who those luminaries are. a woman like dorothy day, who started the catholic worker movement who sheltered the homeless, fed the hungry, a woman who had an abortion and was ostracized from the church. a radical activist. this is who the pope is naming. thomas merton, a political activist, because he had a certain alliance with eastern religions. people thought, how can a roman catholic priest be buddhist as well? he was suspect. these are the people he was naming. people said, was it a political speech today? you are darn right it was political. he knew it was political. he gave a homily and said, catholics need to meddle into politics. today, this pope meddled in politics. >> frank, you covered the pope
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for the "times" for a while. do you think it was because he is being criticized from the right saying, oh, he is too left. do you think he knows it is political? do you think he is a leftist? >> i don't know if i would call him a leftist. he knows when you are going to address congress. that's a political contest. that's a decision he makes. i was struck by all the things that father beck mentioned. i was also struck by something else, which was a message that transcendeded any party's politics. he mentioned high up in a speech common purpose or common need. i remember the word common several times. he mentioned cooperation. he talked about not casting the world in terms of enemies and allies. there was an equally powerful message that was get out of your partisan ship. you are stewards of the common good. you are in charge of a country that's bigger than any party and individual. think beyond yourself. look at the common good. >> is he any more or less controversial than any other pope? >> it is hard to compare.
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john paul ii, was so frail and so sick, that all the things we see this pope doing, mingling in the crowd the way anderson was talking about, he couldn't do. pope benedict had no appetite for it. this pope by being much more in the mix by his two predecessors is naturally going to attract more commentary. >> he lop bied congress to abolish the death penalty but only said, very short about abortion, our responsibility to protect and defend human life at every stage of its development. why do you think that? >> i found that so interesting. he talked about the respect for life from conception or he said, really, at every stage of life. you think that would have been the time to say something about abortion. i think a lot sitting in that dh chamber would have loved to hear him say the word. right after that, he said, i think we should abolish the death penalty universally, not just here in the united states.
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yes. he, of course, talks about abortion but he didn't mention it by name. he talked about the death penalty. again, this wouldn't be pleasing to some people on the right. they want him to name the right to life as abortion. this is the seamless approach. this is conception until death. if you unjustly kill someone. he would think capital punishment is always unjust. it is never acceptable and he said that today in congress. >> i am wondering how much. i see you shaking your head. i wonder how much influence he has. he brings up immigration and the refugee crisis in europe. many lawmakers. speaker boehner was clearly moved by the address. we are politically polarized. how much actual influence does he have? >> on the specific issues, very, very little. you have heard the phrase cafeteria catholics. congress is going to behave like cafeteria catholics.
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see, you mentioned this. that's what i adpree with. they are going to taste. john boehner considers himself a devout catholic and so does nancy pelosi. they will walk away from that address with different conclusions. i hope it was one of those moments where all of them hear a call to be bigger than themselves. that's something i hope everyone can walk away with and work with a little bit less animosity in the future. >> what about regular folks who are out there watching this. as i watch him enter st. patrick's, he spoke to a woman in the wheelchair. the regular people, they are standing there behind you. clearly, they are ecstatic at this focus here. >> they are. >> nair there is a different fe the city. sometimes in recent years as a priest, i would walk down the street and sometimes i would go like this. i would take it off because of all the church has gone through and people would look at you. i feel like, gee, i am going to
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have to start explaining about the sex abuse scandal. today, i walked down the street so proudly. everyone said, hello, father, hello, father and smiled. it was a different feel totally. this man, just like coming to this city has done that. i couldn't have been prouder today. i think the people standing behind me and the people that have lined these streets feel exactly the same way. >> how often does that happen? >> can i do within reality check? this is an extraordinary man and an extraordinary moment. almost everything he symbolizes is wonderful. father beck just mentioned the one sex crisis. the false note that he hit is addressing the bishops and complimented them for their courage in dealing with it. the story of the crisis is not one of courage by american bishops. they were very late to the kind of action they are taking now. for him to mention their courage before he mentioned the victim es apain was the one false note. >> he did call it what it was,
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a crime or crimes committed. we will be back with much more on the pope's historic visit to america. coming up, the kennedy family member who saw the pope. we are going to talk to her. plus, the race for the white house, surprising new poll results. who is up and who is down? that's where at&t can help. at at&t we monitor our network traffic so we can see things others can't. mitigating risks across your business. leaving you free to focus on what matters most. bill's got a very tough 13lie here...... looks like we have some sort of sea monster in the water hazard here. i believe that's a "kraken", bruce.
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immigration to the war on poverty to ending the death penalty. not the first time that faith has been front and center in american politics. listen to the man who became the country's first catholic president, john f. kennedy, 1960. >> i believe in an american that is officially not catholic, protestant or jewish, where no public official either requests or accepts instrxs on public policy from the pope, the national council of churches or any other ecclesiastical source, where no religious body seeks to impose its will directly or indirectly upon the general populous or the public acts of its officials and where religious liberty is so indivisible that an act against one church is treated as an act against all. >> joining me now president
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kennedy's niece and robert kennedy's daughter, kerry kennedy i want to ask you about some of the images today. the pope that addressed congress, standing on capitol hill in the balcony, fifth avenue in the popemobile, at st. patrick's this evening giving prayers. what a day to be a catholic. how does it feel to be a catholic in america? >> it just feels so dprat i have cried so many times with tears coming down my eyes. i was getting my makeup put on. the makeup artist was saying it right here. i think there is just so much feeling towards this man. it is because, you know, even though he addressed congress with all of these issues, he is ultimately talking to our spirit of humanity, talking to our commonality of finding jesus in each one of us.
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he is calling forth the best in all. >> may i call you kerry? >> yes, please. >> what do you think your dad and uncle would say about this, kerry? >> i think they would be so happy to have this pope who is talking about poverty and hunger and said, i am not going to have lunch with the members of congress but i'm going to a homeless facility instead. that's what my family has stood for. that's what my father and uncle really devoted their entire lives to. i think they would be so incredibly happy. >> i'm sure you know well about the issues that your uncle faced being a catholic? >> yes, of course. what do you think he would think, even your father, think of the current situation of what it comes to the race for the white house and what is going on with the pope politically? >> i think he would be delighted
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that he would see that things have changed, that now we have not only had a catholic president. we have a catholic vice-president. we have half a dozen supreme court justices that are catholic and a third of the congress is catholic. things have changed a lot from that from those days of skepticism. i think he would be so happy to see this pope in congress and confronting them on these basic justice issues, on the death penalty and immigration and refugees and the arms race. >> let's talk more about that. let's listen to him addressing congress. >> i am most grateful for your invitation to address this joint session of congress. in the land of the free and the home of the brave.
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you are the face of its people, their representatives. you are called to defend and preserve the dignity of your fellow citizens in the tireless and demanding pursuit of the common good, for this is the chief aim of all politics. >> it almost doesn't seem real. this is a sea of dark suits and there he is in white. the first time a pope has addressed congress. john boehner, clearly moved. do you think his message will have an impact on capitol hill coming days, months? >> i think the most important part of his message in congress was not necessarily on all those issues but of him saying, we have to stop looking at the
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world as good or eve. that is a stark contrast to the way many catholics were raised. he said, we have to come together and look for the common good. you know, i think that -- i hope that congress is able to really take that to heart. not only congress but all of us, all of us as americans and all of us across the world. >> i have to run, though. can you talk to me quickly and i am sorry to give it so short but about being a woman and women and what he says about women in his messages? >> his message today was so amazing, because the former pope, pope benedict, went on this kind of assault of women, the nouns, and opened up two investigations against them. pope francis closed down both those investigations and said
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thank you you to women, religious. i am with you and i love you. what a contrast. >> and not just catholic women but just religious women all over it. >> what a pleasure? >> nice to see you. the day in trump. a war of words breaks out between donald trump and marco rubio. tonight, trump was wowed by one of the pope's visits today. he actually looked. there he is standing in the balcony to watch the pontiff motorcade on fifth avenue. trump himself got a bit of a different reception, though. hey mcmellin' you gellin'? i'm gellin' and zinfandellin'. and so is my new bride, helen mcmellin' i'm so happy my eyes are wellin' dr. scholl's massaging gel insoles are so soft they make your feet feel outrageously comfortable. i'm gellin you're so not gellin' dr. scholl's
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now, for the day in trump. he leads the latest cnn poll of new hampshire republicans. trump has 26%. carly fiorina is second with 16%. marco rubio, third, 9%. ben carson, fourth, 8%.
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joined by katy packer gauge and charles blow and scotty nel-hughes, news director of the tea party news network. hello, ladies and gentlemen. good to see all of you. gentleman, one of you. marco rubio has been flying under the radar. now, he is in third place and trading blows with donald trump. i want you to listen to what donald trump said this morning. marco rubio and donald trump going at it. >> marco rubio sits behind a desk sometimes and he reads stuff. he is in committees. that's all he does. i create jobs all day long. i'll know more about all of this than all of them put together. we'll have a winning strategy. if marco rubio is good, how come we are doing so badly? >> he is on the foreign relations committee. >> i am not in government. marco rubio, he is like a kid. he shouldn't be running in the race. he is a kid. >> when the debate turned to
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policy, he stood silence for 23 minutes. that's why he had such a bad debate. that's why he is now rekt aing the way he is, continuing to criticize anyone that offends him. he is very thin-skinned. he can't hav a conversation about policy, because, quite frankly, he doesn't know anything about policy. >> is this the latest shoving match or is trump vulnerable now? >> i think trump is vulnerable. i think he had a very poor performance at the debate last week. carly took it to him very hard. marco rubio had a great evening. carly had a great evening. donald trump sort of just shrunk into the background. we are probably going to see his support continuing to level off. it hasn't grown in the last several weeks or months. we are going to continue to see this sort of leveling off and recalibrating of this election until we see some more
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candidates begin to drop out. i think you will see somebody else emerge to challenge him. he is soft on this issue of providing detail and specifics on his plans. to suggest that marco rubio is a kid is ridiculous. he is a 44-year-old adult in the u.s. senate and certainly has every right to be there. >> it is not the first time i have heard people say marco rubio looks really young. >> he may look young but he is not a kid. >> you disagree with all of this, don't you, scotty? do you think that donald trump is weak on national security as marco rub crio says? >> absolutely not. none of these guys have put forward plans. you are not talking about it. it doesn't mean that donald trump doesn't have it or mr. trump doesn't. none of them put it out. jeb bush put his economic plan out two weeks ago. you can't name two or three points. rand paul, a month ago. everything mr. trump is doing is calculated. to sit there and say he had a
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bad debate night. he still ranks second in most polls. he is not a politician. he doesn't have a ton of consultants like yourself being paid to coach him what to say to the american people. he is talking from his heart and from his knowledge. that's refreshing. >> that's ulif that's all the k he has -- >> because he doesn't have a bunch of consultants that are paying him to say stuff. >> he doesn't have specifics or a plan. >> none of them do and he does. >> charles, you and i will just sit here. >> i love this. that intro and those trumpets. i'm having a fantastic time. >> come on in. the water is warm. >> listen, charles. trump is now saying he doesn't want to talk too much about national security, because he doesn't want to give anything away to the enemy. does that make sense? >> in a campaign, forgetting about him, which is what i try to do as much as i can. in general, candidates do have
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to provide details, right. at a certain point, people come to expect that. you are early enough in the political season that a lot of his supporters are built up by him getting a tremendous amount of news coverage, disproportionate to what he is actually doing and saying. that actually has helped his name recognition and his results of the standing in the polls. once you get closer to actual primaries and caucuses, you get to the point where people want to hear more. you kind of see them in an international light particularly on the issues of foreign policy. you want to know that the rest of the world looks at the candidate that you like and they respect that person. >> holden on. >> bush is down to 7% in new hampshire. i want you to listen, charles, to his response when asked about trump using visas to fill low
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wage jobs at marlargo. >> he is a hypocrite. >> today, the pope made some. >> that's it. i don't know what else i can add to that. that's pretty direct and to the point. it's not like the debate where you are asked to have a 60-second answer and you are supposed to fill it no matter what. he is a hypocrite. >> do you think he can recover? >> first of all, i think you have to look at the broader spectrum when it comes to candidates like bush. you have to look at how much money they have and how much you believe they can continue to raise. that determines how much longer they will be able to stay in the race. you also have to look at how much establishment sorts of forces want candidates like jeb bush to stay in the race. i think that has a big bearing on it and who the superpacs will get behind. there is no indication yet that they have necessarily settled on
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who they will get behind. you have the koch brothers out there saying they are going to spend $900 million. that es a lis a lot of money. whoever they decide to get behind, that person has a huge advantage going in. you can't know who that is at this point. >> stand by, everyone. we are going to talk about the pope coming up and if he is the most politicized pope in history. talking about his address and what he means for politics here in the u.s. coming up. here's to the explorers.
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ask how enbrel can help relieve joint pain and help stop joint damage. enbrel, the number one rheumatologist-prescribed biologic. the pope did not sidestep controversy in his address to congress. will his visit have an influence on american politics? back with me now is katy packer gauge, charles blow, scottie nell hughes. >> front and center from our public life from kim davis to planned parenthood to trump and carsons comments on muslims and add in the pope's visit. it is a huge part of our political discourse right now. >> i think religion in general. i think that this pope did
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something that is contrary to the way we are discussing religion in america, which is to have a more pmy opic view of wht religions are valid than not. i was more moved by the speech he gave. i don't know what the proper name is for it. the speech he gave in new york here tonight at church where he opened by talking about the 700 muslims that were killed in the hajj. the idea of reaching across religions and not necessarily saying this is a good religion. this is a bad one. we are all human beings. i have sympathy for anybody regardless of what religion they are. i think that is a very different tone than the tone we have in our politics in this country right now where people are talking in the most negative terms about muslim-americans. >> it is interesting. he is going to hallowed ground tomorrow, going down to the site of the world trade center. i think muslims an everyone will be paying attention to what he
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says there. >> here is the problem that we have with this. no disrespect to the pope. i'm glad for what he stands for. the question is, if he would have come in and said, listen, you guys do need to have security on your border, you guys need to make sure you provide general welfare but be responsible. if he wasn't so progressive with his wealth distribution, would he still be getting this red carpet president obama? >> why do i hear people saying that? >> listen. i'm a christian. i went to catholic school. i happen to be protestant. the pope is saying exactly what is in the bible. the rich shall help the poor. that everyone should be invited in. how has that become a political term? why would you want the pope to speak as a politician? he is not speaking as a politician. he is speaking the text that's in the bible and all of the sudden, that has become political.
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>> i must have missed the chapter. >> is that because you disagree with what he is saying or what's in the bible? >> the chapter about global warming, don, to be honest with you. >> the bible doesn't say you should protect and honor the earth, mother nature? >> sitting there and talking about global warming and that being one of his big things. he goes down to cuba. you don't hear him give this same speech about taking care of others and we need to be peaceful down there. i don't know what he said down there. i guarantee it wasn't the same speech he delivered to congress right there talking about the death penalty and yet missing the chance to talk about life on the same day they are voting on the planned parenthood amendment. >> he picked and chose proponents of policy that is going on in america. he is talking about opening up the immigration walls. the vaticans has one of the strongest walls possible. i haven't seen the refugees being brought into the vatican yet. that's why a lot of people are
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frustrated. >> i think there is a lot all of us can learn from this pope. i think we have seen somebody that's come down from on high. previous papal visits, they haven't had this kind of contact with the public. i think he is somebody that has shown an interest in dpgetting together with the people that are most in need of spiritual healing. i think there were some missed opportunities for him to talk about life. the rich have to give to the government first and let the government give to the poor. i think the bible that i have read talks about people giving directly to the poor. it is not really a government program that's being advocated. >> it also says the lord helps those that help themselves. >> does the vatican have an immigration problem, charles? >> that's the first i have ever heard of that. >> they were taking that in.
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the vatican is not like the you states. the pope did make the point of saying the vatican would be taking in two or three families from the syrian refugee crisis. >> they are a big place. they can handle more than three families. >> i don't know who did. he did make the point of saying that. he went further to say that churches across europe should kind of commit themselves to taking in one family. the idea of bng benevolent is a good one. >> everyone is weighing in. today, i sat down with actress, ashley judd, star of the new movie, big stone gap. she told me bha swhat she think donald trump. >> donald trump is an
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interesting character. he has always been very kind to me. what i've learned and i probably do it clumsily most of the time. i can stand for myself and what i believe in without standing against another person. it is how do i act on principle and leave the personalities out of it. i think that's what we have swapped around right now in our political and national conversation. it is about the personalities and not the principles. >> we come right back. ashley's co-star in the new movie, whoopi goldberg also has a lot to say about the candidates and the pope's historic visit. ig bull. i think that's old cyrus. 1800 pounds of do whatever the heck i want. ♪ take the long way, huh? ♪ thank you cyrus. lease an mkc for $299 a month
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when it comes to business, you always have a choice. book now at the new choicehotels.com whoopi goldberg stars in "big stone gap." today i sat down with her to talk about the film and other things on her mind including the pope's visit. >> i have to ask you. the pope is in town. you have said that you have a great relationship with god. >> what do you think of the pope's speeches and what he is doing and saying? >> this is the first time since probably john the xxiii that i
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have been reinterested and reinvigorated, because this guy, you know, he read the book. he gets it. he remembers what this is all about. to catholics, he is the direct connection to god. so if he says, listen, i don't think you need to be obsessed with gay people. i don't think that's what we need to be thinking about. i think we need to be thinking about how do we make our church better? how do we make our church more inclusive? he said, you know, quit hurting women's feelings about having gotten an abortion. i don't want women to get abortions but i understand why they do. >> i heard you mention that about abortion. you said, there is nothing about the bible in the abortion. someone would challenge you and say, what about thou shall not kill. >> well, if that's the tactic we are going to take, we have to be pissed at every war and all the
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things we do. now, no one goes into getting an abortion like it is a party. you know what i mean? this is a hard decision for 97% of the women in the world to make. so you shouldn't be beating them up, because they have had to make this terrible decision. it is no the your business. it is not your business that they had to make the decision. because, you know, i believe everybody is entitled to their religious beliefs. the lady down in kentucky, she is absolutely entitled to her belief. if you are a federal worker and you took this job, you don't get to say ip not going to do it because of my religious beliefs. in the '60s and '70s, they said,
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i'm not going to give you the right to vote. i am not going to sign you up because i don't think you are supposed to. we make these laws to protect everybody. >> even today, you are talking about carly fiorina, she is almost at the top. she was in south carolina visiting a pregnancy center. she criticized planned parenthood. sh he h she has criticized planned parenthood a lot. >> i wish she and trump and all the other republicans would get their facts straight. you want a fight on this. get your facts straight. don't make up stories about seeing a video that isn't real. it is not a real video. >> you called donald trump out on it. the real individuavideo. >> it was stock footage. it wasn't part of a planned parenthood film. >> you have criticized donald
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trump saying, you need to get your facts straight. >> you know what, more women use planned parenthood for their health care than anything else. abortion actually is down in this country from what it was. also, women are not having as many abortions. there is a lot of things happening and to pretend that planned parenthood is still this specter is terrible. again, i understand you don't think it is a good thing. nowhere in the law does it say you have to have one. you have the right to choose to have one. i like that. don't take my right if i need one because of your religious beliefs. i can't see that being right. >> what do you think of all of these, the people who are not traditional politicians like ben carson who said things about
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muslims, like -- >> you no he what. i don't know when this ability for people to just say, dumb. can you beat me? >> yes. >> i don't know when people say dumb [ bleep ] and dumb racist [ bleep ]. it used to be you thought before you said something like that. suddenly now everybody feels like it is okay. i guess when obama came in, folks thought all the gloves were off. here is what is p.c. it is only p.c. if you can't do it. if i don't want you making jokes about my people, you tell me i'm too p.c. but you have had the right to make those jokes all the time. you can make them. there are consequences now. there weren't consequences before. >> why are these people so popular, like trump, carson? they are not traditional politicians. >> why was sarah palin palin?
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why was michele bachmann popular? who knows. it is like zero coke or no zero coke. some of it sticks. some of it doesn't. >> i really want to talk about this movie. it seems like a traditional movie, good, old-fashioned movie. it is beautifully shot. tell me about it. why were you drawn to do this? >> listen, adriana tajani, who is the director and the author of the book "big stone gap" said to me, 12, 13 years ago, i sent you the book. i hope you love it. i want you to play this part. i don't have any money to make the movie yet but when i do, i want you to play the part. one day, adriana came over and said, guess what, girl? i got the movie. i said, you do? >> she said, yes. still, you want me? >> she said, i want you. we went and shot in big stone gap. >> what was it like shooting in
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that part of the country? >> it was kind of wonderful. it was hard to see, because it is a state that used to thrive a lot on coal mining. when that disappeared, you know, it really killed the economy of so many of these small towns that were mining towns. it was wonderful to see people doing what they had to be doing and teachers doing amazing things, kids not having enough to eat. teachers are going out and going above and beyond to take care of the kids. i mean, it was heaven. it was an eye-opening experience. >> a star-studded cast? >> yes, yes. >> what was that like, because not only a star-studded cast. it is a period piece. since 1978, correct? you got that big afro. >> and those glasses. >> did you go back to the '70s?
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>> yeah. you know, yeah. >> you lived it? >> i did live it. i lived the '60s. i lived the later '50s. i have been living it all. i like this character, because she is kind of kur munlgunderly. she loves her down and she loves her friends. i like that. >> the movie is called big stone gap. i love you, whoopi. >> i love you, don. thank you, baby. >> whoopi, i apologize, we were supposed to put your book in there that comes out in october as well and your docuseries. i apologize. we will dpet get it on the air, promise you. >> it is season premier time here in television. two big series returning last night, empire on fox and blackish on abc. they have more in common than you might think. >> hold on.
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in north carolina, reverend richard joiner is tending his block in both body and soul. that's why he is this week's cnn hero. >> camida is a community with poverty. it is a rural area. also, a food desert that did not have access to fresh, affordable food. i've been the pastor here 12 years. early on, i was spending more time in funerals than anything else. diabetes, high blood pressure, unhealthy lifestyles. i had to do something. >> if you take what you have, god can transform your health situation, your food desert situation. i could not grow food by myself. i had to come through the community. all right. come on, guys.
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who want to do eggplants? the children, they are responsibility for planting, cultivating and also harvesting the food. the students are learning a lot. >> what they good for, diabetes? heart health. one of our goals is to get as much fresh food in the homes as possible. it will make the families healthier. it is a game-changer. >> i used to take 27 medicines a day. after the garden, now i only take six. i feel better. >> this garden has changed our community life. it is a place where we can produce. it is a place we can play. it is a place where we can live. >> anderson is going to reveal this year's top ten cnn heroes
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on thursday, october 8th. for more information, go to cnn heroes.com. that's it for us tonight. i'm going to see you back here tomorrow on new day tomorrow morning with live coverage of the pope's first full day in new york and then we'll have all the highlights for you right here tomorrow night at 10:00. ac 360s right now. if you are just joining us, it is the top of the hour. pope francis continued evening ves pers. continue to take a look at the sights and sounds in st. patrick's with his glorious choir. let's listen in.

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