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hello again an thanks for joining me. i'm fredricka fredricka. on the heels of a tense democratic debate in brooklyn, an crucial upcoming primary race in brooklyn, new york. hillary clinton looking forward to california today. live pictures, about to begin in los angeles. cnn's sara sidner is there. so, sara -- all right. so that's getting -- getting it started right now. what is expected to happen? >> reporter: we're expecting to see hillary clinton come out and talk to community folks. folks here in south l.a., at the southwest college here. this college, a historic place, a place built after the '65 riots here. a place that people were able to come to try to uplift themselves, and that's one of the reasons it was built to serve and underserved community. expected to discuss, for example, raises in wages as well as breaking down barriers to being able to lift oneself up in america. you can hear the saxophonist who

is playing the national anthem right now, and there are lots of folks here. we've been talking to some of them, about some of the controversies that have befallen this campaign, which include the other reason why she's here, which are two mega fund-raisers. fred? >> okay. sorry. hard to compete with the national anthem there. this other fund-raiser that's taking place this evening, at george and amal clooney's home in studio city. is this an estroevent to appeal the deeper pockets of hollywood or another message being sent at this event? >> reporter: look, this is an event that, george clooney himself sent a letter out talking about not in the terms of using trump's name, but talking about we what -- what kind of america we want to see and talks about not making people angry, not trying to ramp

up anger between groups or not letting in a certain religion. clearly targeted donald trump saying this is the person i believe can win, but controversy over the numbers. talking about 353,000-plus to sit at the table with hillary clinton and the clooneys, or 33,000 per person. so a lot of people are saying, hold on a second. a heck of a lot of money to be able to sit down with her, but people here, fred, have seen her for free. we just show up to the events and able to see her, so we don't have a problem with that. either you can pay the money or come and try to go to some of her events and see her for free. >> apologies interrupting the national anthem and putting new a position, sara, competing with a a beautiful saxophone for the national anthem. appreciate it. the primary in new york is three days away and stakes are high with a whopping 242

delegates up for grabs. trailing clinton, some say new york is bernie sanders's last chance. earlier i spoke to the new york governor andrew cuomo who explained why he believes clinton has an advantage. >> i think hillary clinton is going to do very well in new york, because there's one basic advantage. new yorkers know hillary clinton. she was here for senator, we've seen her work, seen her performance. we know that she's effective at making change which is what this race really comes down to at the end of the day, in a my opinion, fred. as democrats you listen to bernie, you listen to hillary. they're basically saying the same thing. same goals. the question is, who can actually get it done? and i think hillary has proven, especially to new yorkers, that she can make change. she can make the government work. you know, when you become president, they don't give ayoua magic wand that you wave. you have to get legislation passed. you have to get agencies to run

programs. >> uh-huh. >> and that's an art form in and of itself and that's what hillary does very well. >> it's interesting, because even the closing remarks of that debate, she really laid out these are the things i've done. whereas bernie sanders laid out, this is the vision that i see. bottom line, voters want to feel inspired. are they more inspired by seeing someone present, these are the results. i want a continuation of? or the candidate who says, this is the america, this is the change, this is what i see for the future? >> yeah. well, it's an interesting question. we just did an event with president bill clinton rallying for hillary, and i quoted my father, who we lost last year, former governor of new york mario cuomo, who said, we need ideas that are good and sound. not ideas that sound good. what we're saying to the electorate is, let's be smart.

we don't want just 12-second sound bites. we need ideas that are actually going to happen. that you can get past a congress and through a senate. and we need ideas that are going to actually work in people's lives. so it's not as simple as just saying, where -- you know, free lunch for everyone! free this, free that. you have to show people that it can actually happen. and that's what hillary's strength is. do i understand that sometimes the details can become boring? and people just want to hear the big picture? yes. but primary voters are smart. especially here in new york. these are seasoned primary voters. they pay very close attention, and you're not going to fool them with just a broad brush approa approach. you know the old expression --

if it sounds too good to be true it probably is. that is especially true with new yorkers who can be a little cynical at times. if it sounds too good to be true it probably is. >> you just recently signed a $15 minimum wage plan. clinton supported you, and this happened to be a moment during that debate. sanders wants $15 minimum wage nationally clinton has said, nationally, how about start with about $12. is it your view that the rest of the nation should go as new york has gone? >> yeah. this is a perfect example of what we were talking about. you can talk in a broad stroke, or you can actually be a little more specific, and factual. if you go from $7 to $15 in a very short period of time, potentially that could have a

negative effect on some economies, because that is a very big jump, and you're saying to businesses that employ a large number of minimum wage workers, your payroll is basically going to double. that could have a negative impact. it would have to be studied, and the economies are different across the country. some states are doing better than others, some states naturally have stronger economies. it's not as simple as saying, let's go to $15. if you do it wrong, you can hurt the very people you're trying to help. >> all right. thanks so much to new york governor andrew cuomo for that interview. meantime, senator bernie sanders is due back in new york next hour after attending a -- an economic conference at vatican city and learning today sanders had an impromptu meetinging with pope francis. the senator said it was a great honor to meet the upon pontiff.

the pope said no political reason. >> it's called manners and not getting involved in politics. if anyone thinks a meeting is getting involved in politics, then i recommend they go see a psychiatrist. >> sanders is campaigning in brooklyn later today and we'll find out more about his trip to vat htin city tomorrow morning on "state of the union" joining jake tapper. the republican side. it's a cross country battle for votes and delegates. donald trump and john kasich focusing on the big prize of new york. both campaigning in the state, which has 95 delegates up for grabs on tuesday. meanwhile, ted cruz is in wyoming, where he is expected to pick up most of that state's delegates at the gop convention. here's a sample of what all three had to say today. >> we're going to pass -- >> you know, it's easy to talk

about making america great again. you can even print that on a baseball cap. but the real question is, do you understand the principles and values that made america great in the first place? >> you look at what happened in wyoming and what's happening there, when you look at what's happening in colorado, where the people -- where the people never got a chance to vote, and they're going nuts out there. they're angry. the boss' took away their vote. >> leadership matters. that's why i run for this office, but at the end, you know, it's -- needs to be kept in perspective. >> all right. don't miss cnn's live coverage of the new york primary all day tuesday. also, still ahead -- rain and heavy winds are stalling rescue efforts in japan today. cnn's matt rivers is in the quake zone. that's next. tric toothbrush was going to clean better than a manual. he said sure...but don't get just any one.

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bad weather in southern japan is hampering rescue workers scrambling to reach chose in the earthquake. more than 30 are reported dead. today's earthquake was centered knee the city of coukumamoto.

>> we are inside one of dozens of evacuation centers set up here in the kumamoto region as people displaced as a result of the two different earthquakes. you're seeing people inside from one of two different tracts. on one hand, people have their homes destroyed and have nowhere to go. the reality is most people inside this evacuation shelter are here because they're afraid to go home. they're not sure maybe there might be another aftershock. we've been here about 12 hours now or so and we've felt several different tremors on our own, and that certainly has people here very spooked, given what we've seen over the last two days, but, frankly, these people were able to make it out of a very, very difficult situation, where others were not so lucky. we know that at least 40 people have died as a result of both the earthquake on thursday and the earthquake early morning

here on saturday, and because of those two earthquakes, the amount of rubble, the amount of destruction that's gone on in this area is immense. that's the task that is facing rescue workers right now. you see these trucks behind me. these are from the japanese defenses f force that will send from 20,000 of its members by the end of the day tomorrow. that would be sunday here local time, to help with these rescue efforts, but they face a herculean tank. it is raining outside now and there's a lot of debris to try and go through to try and find anyone who might still be alive trapped in the rubble. a tense and nervous situation here for people in southwest japan. matt rivers, cnn, kumamoto, japan. >> thanks so much, matt. still ahead, a rare tiger attacks and kills a florida soopkeeper. we'll hear from someone who knows these big animals well. everything these days.

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the palm beach zoo is releasing few details in the death of an experienced animal keeper, stacey konwiser mauled

by a male tiger while preparing for an event. the zoo says konwiser knew the dangers of the job. joining me now, a big cat expert joining me live from cape town, south africa. good to see you. we keep hearing she knew the dangers of the job, was very experienced, but when you've got animals, such as this, who are held in captivity, can anyone really be prepared for their potential? >> you know, it's -- it's i think when one understands the nature of wild animals, whether they're in a captive environment or not, i think the short answer is, you really -- you really can't. you know, the reality was that this tiger was a 13-year-old male. the average longevity of a ma layen tiger is somewhere around 18 to 20 years roughly, and in captivity, even a little longer, and you know, so the tiger, at

13 years old, and a male especially, is in its absolute prime. an incredibly powerful animal, massive. you know, pure muscle. it's hard-wired to be aggressive and dominant, and that's absolutely key for its survival in the wild. you know, these are instincts that are encoded in their dna over millions of years and that's the key to their survival. the reality is you really can't take the wild out of a captive wild animal. >> and we know that this was a male tiger that attacked stacey, and it happened apparently in a place the public doesn't see. >> right. >> and -- but, you know, one has to wonder if there is an area, you just described, you know, this animal being in its prime. being very strong. if it makes being in the company of these animals anymore volatile, being in the feeding area, being in the preparation areas as opposed to being, you know, in another area that may

be secured differently for the public view? >> right. you know, i don't really believe that the area makes a difference. i think what you've got is a situation where you -- my understanding was there were three males together with one female in an enclosure, and with a 13-year-old male in its prime, in thrust together, in an unnaturally tiny area, necessarily, that is the way zoos are. you know, you get the height in competition and then a displaced aggression. that tiger, that male tiger, has no natural outlet for its aggression, and to be able to defend and command a territory. and so, you know, stacey was obviously no match for a 300 -- you know, a 300-pound killing machine, and i don't think it matters where it was. i think it's the fact that it's in an unnatural environment, in a small, you know, a small

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cirque du soleil, the latest group to cancel shows in north carolina joining several other artists protesting a new law they say is anti-lgbt. creting non-discrimination policies based and jernd identity and forces transgender people to use public rest rooms that match their birth gender. several cities from across the country, ar banning non-essential travel to north carolina and the nba still plans to play the 2017 all-star game in charlotte for now. >> the law as it now stands in north carolina is problematic for the league. there was no discussion of moving the all-star game. what the view in the room was, we should be working towards change in north carolina. the best role for the league to

play here is through constructive engagement towards change not setting deadlines. not making ultimatums, but working with the private sector and the government to affect change in north carolina. >> and as you recall, i spoke with former nba star and tnt commentator charles barkley earlier in the month, and he says, that's not enough. >> you know, as black person i'm against any form of discrimination against whites, hispanics, gays, lesbians, however you want to phrase it. and it's my job with a position of power that i'm in, and being able to be on television, i'm supposed to stand up for the people who can't stand up for themselves. se so i think the nba should move the all-star game from charlotte. >> my barkley interview was before adam silver's comments, but that's how he has been feeling about the whole idea of the all-star game playing in charlotte.

the nba later issues a statement about silver's comments saying, "at no time did adam affirm that the league would not move the all-star game. rather he stressed repeatedly that the legislation is problematic, that we feel it is best to engage with community to work towards a solution that change is needed, and we are hopeful that will occur." all right. so much more straight ahead in the "newsroom" at the top of the hour. thanks for being with me this afternoon. i'm fredricka whitfield. "vital signs" with dr. sanjay gupta is next. ♪