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president? i don't think so. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and michaela pereira. >> good morning. welcome to your ur "new day." it's april 26, 6:00 in the east. voters heading to the polls five northeast states up for grab, hundreds of delegates as well. the front-runners, donald trump, hillary clinton looking strong. the real story is the desperation among opponents. ted cruz and john kasich with this plan to work together. guess what? it's already showing signs of faltering. >> hmm. shocking. clinton, meanwhile, suggesting if she wins big tonight it will leave little room for sanders to go on. what does bernie sanders think about that? the vermont senator joins us in our 7:00 hour. and talking to northeast voters standing by in our studio, as you can see about the 2016 race. let's begin with jim acosta live
in philadelphia. good morning, jim. >> reporter: good morning, alisyn. donald trump campaign isn't worried about today's results. hoping to pull a lot of these states. and something that caught trump's attention, a deal that could slow his march to the nomination. >> lyin' ted. not -- >> reporter: sensing an opportunity in the new alliance between ted cruz and john kasich, donald trump isn't just smelling blood, he's going in for the kill. a double-barreled attack on both cruz. >> he's a joker. he cannot do it. so he said, let me form a partnership, which i call -- what do we call it? called collusion, folks. >> reporter: and cakasich. >> like a spoiled guy. i'm not getting out, mom. i'm not getting out. >> reporter: trump even ridiculed kasich's eating habits as unpresidential.
>> then you see him eating in the morning. did you ever see -- i have never seen. he's stuffing pancakes in his mouth like this. >> he has no answer. how do you bring jobs back to america, beyond just printing it on a baseball cap? >> reporter: with a few one-liners of his own, cruz is telling supporters, the magic number to win the nomination. >> what that means is that indiana gets a straight and direct choice between our campaign and donald trump. >> reporter: but by monday afternoon, the cruz/kasich alliance was already showing signs of strain with kasich refusing to explicitly tell his indiana voters to vote for croods ovcruz over him. >> i don't tell voters anything. >> reporter: stressing he has his own strategy to see through, to stay alive before the party meets for its convention this
summer. >> look, i'd like to see an open convention. ted cruz would like to see an open convention and i think trump would not. he's afraid if he goes to an open convention, he's got no chance of winning. >> reporter: advisers tell me the cruz campaign could have something to do with the election. and frump is seeking to win the nomination before any convention that is contested, of course, all of which explains why he's delivering a serious foreign policies speech wednesday morning before racing off to indiana to stop this cruz/kasich deal from actually working, and, guys, after what we heard yesterday on the campaign trail, we may all never eat pancakes the same again. who would have thought we'd be talking about pancakes and how people eat pancakes during the presidential campaign? >> you've given us a lot of room for thought. thank you. i'm just starting. let's discuss with cnn
political analyst and host of "the david gregly show" podcast, david gregory and political anchor of "time" news, earl lewis. what's happening? >> i don't think anything can frap if fray if it never existed. quite frankly, might be one of the worst rollouts of any alliance when it comes to politics. released in the paper sunday night. the next morning, the candidates don't even seem to be onboard with it. john kasich saying he wants voters in indiana to continue to vote for him. ted cruz says that john kasich is basically leaving the race and at the end of the day, we're all more confused what's happening. >> well put. errol lewis, anything you can compare this we've seen before and the rhetoric? >> nothing i've ever seen before. add to what mark was saying, a
pro-cruz running in indiana. seems to be at its most potent, the alliance. it demonstrates to people who fully understand, as much as we talk about the establishment, the machine, this organization that's out there, they're notes that organized. it's not operating like a machine and for about establishment, doesn't seem to be able to pull out of even a fairly simple strategy. mitt romney was talking about this months ago. do everything you can to stop trump. a lot of people feel that way but can't seem to turn it into anything real. >> stop trump but husband their resources. >> i do like that. >> basically how to best spend the little money that he has going forward. they're still doing that. right? he's still going to focus on oregon and new mexico and not indiana. >> right. if you're looking for a clean result, really trying to capitalize where you might have
more strength in cruz and vice versa, then you would really commit to this. here, when kasich is saying, look, you want to vote for me, vote for me, you're not doing everything to potentially stop trump, which is so important. because if trump can win big today and in a conservative state like indiana, very difficult to stop him, even if short of 1,237. part of the problem, cruz especially does not want kasich to win because he's barely won anything and not in a position to claim any prize. and i think that's what the fray is. >> where's the good? bad for ted cruz. he was saying the exact opposite of this in his great litigator fashion just a month ago. forget a convention. it's not about a convention. don't do that to the people. i would never comply -- that's bad for him. bad for the process, because what does this combining of the--to keep somebody else out? off heard nothing positive about this on the streets. when people come up to us and
talk about the rates, nobody likes this. do you like this? >> who likes it, really good for donald trump. that's the good. >> he's a victim, always wanted to be. >> he's a victim in the whole entire process. for him to ge out and use words like collusion which is a very potent, explosive word. saying that the system is rigged, which he has ben saying, you know, the past couple of months. >> it is by now definition. they're rigging it on purpose. >> but the not illegal. they're playing politics at the hardball level. right? i'll use a baseball analogy, however, it's like they're on the wiffle ball field and can't even hit the ball. >> ooh, that's strong. >> donald trump doesn't want an open convention. we do. kasich has little standing in the whole process. donald trump it's possible for him to win. these guys, they can't on the straight-up just by voters and want to get to an open convention. it does ring a bit hollow. >> errol, in addition to
collusion, donald trump is using other words not often heard on the campaign trail. weak, pathetic. let me play for what you he said yesterday as a rally. >> pancakes. >> how pathetic when they use collusion? how weak does this make them look? i said to my people, that's great. it's going to make them look weak and pathetic, which they are, as a politician. >> that's a message that will stick, or no? >> certainly stick with trump supporters. i think they believed that all along. it kwununderscores how unusual moment we're in. you don't usually hear this from somebody in a position donald trump is in. talking about people are gus disgusting how they look, and how people look. we're not talking about the economy, the crazy comments about nuclear policy still hanging out there. we have troops committed to go back into the middle east. a really important development that cries out for conversation. donald trump talking about pancakes. >> i think he had something of an opportunity. if he has another big night
tonight, gives something of an effective speech on foreign policy, there are more and more republicans who might grudgingly say, all right, we can handle this, him being the nominee. that's death for cruz and kasich. the more republicans who say, i might hold my nose a bit but we can go for this. >> what do we expect to come out of these five states tonight? >> a great night for donald trump and one number we should focus on. that number is 54. these are the unpledged delegates in the state of pennsylvania. they're basically two races tonight in pennsylvania. the beauty contest race for whoever can win the state, state-wide, you're going to pick up somewhere between 15 to 17 dell guilt and 54 delegates. basically these folks are running individual campaigns themselves and i've been told, wield sear if it comes to fruition, the trump campaigns last six, seven days gone in hard, making up because they have no delegation in that state.
>> rigged or strategic? now operating in a more strategic fashion, they missed opportunities in the past? >> right. using words like rigged. what it means, he's right. behind in organizing, doesn't understand the process, didn't take the time to master the process or hire somebody who has. you kind of have to dismiss the entire process, followers will say, yeah, the whole process doesn't work. now, we'll see a whole different tone if he gets closer to 1,237, all of the sudden, unity, the rules are the rules. we're one big republican party and i, donald trump should be the head of it. see if he can pull it off. >> how much time he's lost. come up short of 1,237 say by 50 delegates and lost because he didn't get right on the delegate math here, that is political malpractice. this would be a totally unforced error. >> that would be then, likely he w would get the nomination.
>> he konchcould. just as it is, a presumptive argument. we've been hearing again and again from all reaches of that party, the rules are what they are. if you can't get to that number that means you have not gotten 50 plus 1% of the field and we basically start again. and they've been saying that straight on through. >> right. but you also -- you are pledged in some states like florida, pledged through the third ballot. it's not like if you lose -- >> erroll's right, the word "rigged" is the wrong word to use. these rules are confusing, at least. >> thank goodness we have you here. panel stick around. we'll talk about democrats in a moment. first michaela. i will talk about democrats now. look at hillary clinton. she's hoping a big sweep in the northeast tonight will allow her to close the door on bernie sanders' campaign. her folk sis shicus is shifting
more to the general election. what will this mean to bernie sanders future? good morning, chris. >> reporter: good morning, mic and welcome to super tuesday. the quattro polls open here in pennsylvania in about an hour. it's the biggest prize of all five states voting today. >> you have an enormously important democratic primary. >> reporter: said totoday's higs primary has bernie sanders calming for voters to come out. >> if you come out to vote, grab your uncles and aunts we're going to win in pennsylvania. >> reporter: hillary clinton could widen her delegate lead and help effectively close the door on sanders. >> you vote for me tomorrow, i will stand up and fight for you. >> reporter: on the stump, clinton is already looking past her democratic rival and focusing on potential general election opponents. >> when i hear the kind of
reckless rhetoric coming from donald trump and ted cruz -- it's deeply troubling, because it's not only offensive it is dangerous. >> reporter: leading in the polls, the former secretary of state is expected to win big. her likely clean sweep is forcing sanders to saturate his speeches with the contrast between them. >> the differences between secretary clinton and myself. secretary clinton -- secretary clinton. >> reporter: but clinton is ready for sanders to conceit, much like she did in 2008. >> i didn't say, you know what? if senator obama does x, y and z, maybe i'll support him. i said, i am supporting senator obama. >> reporter: sanders argues while he'll do whatever he can to keep a republican out of the white house it is up to clinton to sway his voters to her side. >> she has got to go out to you. >> reporter: now, if you want a sense of how bernie sanders and hillary clinton think they'll do today, take a look where they'll be tonight. hillary clinton will be just
down the road in philadelphia holding an eincident ining an e leading by double figures, bernie sanders will have moved on to west virginia already. bernie sanders vowing to be in the race to the end and the support and money to do just that. >> before he heads to vewest virginia, he'll join us right here in the next hour. >> and bundled delegates as well voting already under way in connecticut, where we find cnn's brin jinglish, polls opened a few moments ago. action yet? >> reporter: right, chris, actually a few trickling in before they head to work. 93,823, that is the number of people who registered to vote since january 1st of this year, according to the secretary of state here in connecticut, and a
large majority of those people we're told are under 30 years old. that sort of speaks to the excitement people have of contributing to this primary. one woman just walked in to vote. going to vote? she said, heck yeah i am. people are super excited to be a part of this primary, make their vote count. of course, this is traditionally a blue state. hillary clinton is supposed to do very well here tonight and as far as the republican side, moderate side as far as republicans and donald trump in the lead. all five candidates visited here in connecticut before this primary and certainly now polls are open. we'll see how they fare out don't, chris. >> thank you, brin. check back in a little bit and we encourage you to stay with cnn for coverage of today's super tuesday primaries as voters head to the polls. again, five big states. a lot of delegates up for grabs. stay with us. >> if hillary clinton sweeps today's primaries what does that mean for bernie sanders we will
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we know how much you love the electoral math. so tonight 384 democratic delegates up for grabs in five different northeast primary states. the big question is, well, what happens with bernie sanders? if he doesn't do well tonight, how does he survive? what does it mean for xclinton? can she show she's within striking length? and bringing in rushmore of pundits, david gregory, erroll lewis and mark preston. define victory tonight for hillary clinton. what is victory for hillary clinton? >> continues her march to collect delegates and really makes it mathematically impossible for bernie sanders to win the nomination. >> yet, david, you see, even if she has a big night tonight, challenges ahead for her. like what? >> well, she's going to move, one of the big challenges in the primary, she doesn't have a lot of passion behind her and particularly among younger voters. she is selling pragmatism, harder than in a general
election. >> if she wins tonight maybe she doesn't need passion. >> she needs the pivot to focus on younger voters, turn them out in the fall and turn out an organization, get out the vote as big and formidable as possible in the fall, and she's got to make that turn. i would say, yes, obviously big victory is vick trick for her tonight but forcing more of a concession from sanders, effectively moving to the general election. find way to tamp down what he's talking about out there, even if he loses tonight and has more room to grow. >> she's got to tamp down what he's saying in terms of what's te keeps those voters from being herself already and play up. what sanders should be doing in terms of starting to move towards combining this into a joint effort. let's listen to what the second said where she's saying, with me, when i was in bernie sanders' position, i had no conditions. take a listen. >> i did not put down conditions. i didn't say, you know what? if senator obama does x, y and
z, maybe i'll support him. i said, i am supporting senator obama, because no matter what our differences might be, they pale in comparison to the differences between us and the republicans. >> erroll lewis? >> a slightly less generous exception are that, bernie sanders represent as movement and hillary clinton represented herself in 2008. that's the arrangement that she wanted, something like vice president or something like secretary of state, or something like that, but she wasn't, you know, arguing, as she says, for lots of other people or changes in party rules or anything like that. bernie sanders has made a lot of claims. wanted a political revolution. you've got to change the super delegates rules. wants certain things around college tuition, issues he ran on and feels very passionately about, he's going to argue for that and there's nothing really wrong with that. this is what it's supposed to be
about. >> hillary clinton wanted to run for president again. needed to stay in line to have a president which would ultimately support her which has happened, to get the support needed within the administration and the president of the united states. i don't think bernie sanders is running for president again. whatever movement comes out of this for him is not elected office. he doesn't feel the same pressure to fall in line. >> premature for her sow say time for sanders supporters to come around to me? >> i don't think what she said last night nor the tone in saying it last night is helpful in trying to consolidate the democratic party at this point. i think she's got to be very careful. she can't be the one looking like she's forcing out bernie sanders, going from state to state, getting people that are showing up at these rallies. the democrats are lucky in the fact that while they're split at a party right now, they are more likely to come back together than we're seeing on the republican side with donald trump and what have you. >> right. >> but hillary clinton really
should be more conciliatory to david's point to try to bring these people in, but not too far. if she goes too far over to the bernie side, to the more liberal side that will hurt her in the general. >> would like to do it sooner than later, an obvious point. some way to find a seam after a big win tonight, the territory getting deeper into may is more friendly for bernie sanders to pick up more states. a renewed sense of momentum, even if it makes no difference. >> exactly what happened in 2008. wound up dumping in june. some thought it would have happened a month earlier, as the math changes, started picking up states. look at the states tonight and figure what's going to make a difference? looking connecticut, delaware, maryland, pennsylvania, rhode island, preston, in new york, one of the surprises, to the extent there was one beyond organizational capacity, the gun issue for bernie sanders versus clinton. do you see an issue that will pop up more than others in these states? >> i don't think so and i think the minimum wage. >> even connecticut?
>> take con be cnecticut off th table given what happened up in newtown, but i think new york is different. one state a huge media market. the gun issue was brought up by her. he brought up the minimum wage issue, although she opened the door. five different states spread out across -- i don't think one issue will dominate. >> pennsylvania's the big prize tonight. how long does this go on after tonight? say hillary clinton does very well tonight. then what? >> she tries to build her delegate lead. she probably pivots, starts to focus on california in a big, big way. >> not to stop you, she's only 429 delegates away. >> put those numbers up. >> and tonight, she's close to building on that delegate lead t. is proportional. >> sure. >> something in the 52% range, 48% to 52%. not running away with it, not clinching for sure. you have to look at remaining
states, especially the ones with big delegates counts. pennsylvania, the most dell guilt. interesting stuff going on in maryland, a lot of high-prfile african-american candidates running for congressional seats, state-wide seats. it's going to really sort of affect the turnout and a place for her to really try to reap the benefits of all of this political activity going none what is home turf for her. >> we'll watch for that tonight. panel, great talk to you. always a great opportunity and a big moment like this to have the candidates, and we do have the vermont senator, bernie sanders joining us live. what is his case for the people in these five states? what does he think is going to happen tonight and what will it mean to him? we'll ask him all of these questions and more, mic. so stay tuned. >> i will, and i'm sure everyone else will this morning. all right. here's something getting a lot of people upset. deflategate rearing its head again. tom brady may actually have to serve a four-game suspension after all. what are the odds of his fighting it? we'll have details ahead.
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pool, chairman of the maryland democratic party and j.r. romano, chairman of the connecticut state republican party. gentlemen, thanks so much for being here. >> good morning. thanks for having us. >> j.r., i want to start with you. you are an unbound delegate. you plan to vote, you say, for whoever your state supports, whoever wins today. but let's play out this hypothetical. what if, let's say, you, your state goes for trump, but you think that kasich or cruz is more electable. then what do you do? >> well, i think the issue here is, my philosophy is different than what's going on within the democratic party. it's that my job is to honor what republicans in this state want, and i take my job very seriously. so if a majority of voters in this state feel as though trump would be the best candidate, then that's where my vote will go. unlike what you have on the democrat side, which is all of these super delegates who are ultimately going to decide who the democrat nominee is. >> okay. so, bruce, that brings you up.
you are a super delegate. do you have that much power to decide? >> well, i don't know. i'm not so sure that my dog even listens to me on any given day, but i'll tell you, the super delegate process is there because it works. the democrats years ago didn't have good candidates, and we didn't win elections nationwide and now we do. and look where the republicans are. maybe the problem is now the republicans are trying -- >> how did the delegate process change that to put you more in the win category? >> what it did was really allow a key group of democratic party leaders to weigh in, and be able to vote all the way up until the convention on the basis of who can win that general election. so that's really what i'm looking at. i'm looking at who's a quality candidate who has any barriers that would keep them from being able to win the general, and then, of course, i want to hear from the maryland democrats, because the maryland democrats' voice strongly one way or the
other today, i'm going to listen to that. >> j.r., you say you will vote for whoever your state wants, however, let me put up for you on the screen some of the enticements and inducements that the candidates can use to try to sway you to their side. here is what is allowed in wooing delegates. you could get a ride on a private jet. you could be wined and dined by a candidate. who isn't susceptible to that? you could get expensive swag bags, even a political deal of some kind or a platform. i mean, how can you be immune? >> well, hon negligently, i guess it's -- i'll give a complement to my mother. i'm grounded in the roots coming from a small town in connecticut, derby, connecticut where that stuff doesn't matter to me. it's about principle, and you can try and put all of that stuff in front of me but it's not really going to change how i think and how seriously i take my responsibilities as the chairman of the republican party
here in ckoconnecticut. >> and part of the reason donald trump says it's rigged, part of what was said, super delegates decide rather than regular voters. >> it's kind of funny in many respects. donald trump is proving that he's not going to be as good if he has a shot at being president and everybody hopes. this is a guy who says he could close the deal, knew how to get through any process, deal with putin and north korea and now saying, oh, my gosh. ted cruz is picking my pocket. that's a problem. >> hmm. >> on our side -- believe me, i listen to democrats, and i'm getting around the state all the time and hearing from maryland democrats. that's going to be a very, very heavy consideration for me. >> go ahead, j.r. >> well, i just think it's ironic that the democratic party, which claims to be the party of the people is being exact opposite being anti-democratic. the reality is, you take away the super delegates away from hillary clinton, she would not
be in the lead she's in. look at new hampshire. bernie sanders wins that state by around 80% and walks away with less delegates. how is that possible? and it's because the deck is stacked for the establishment candidate here with hillary clinton and all of the party insiders choosing -- >> just to be clear, she's still winning. take away super delegates, she still has more delegates and we just put up on our screen. >> but the margin is much -- take connecticut, signed every super delegate already. the results tomorrow don't matter. and this is what everyone needs to understand. >> -- voted from regular voters. i mean, you're making it sound as though it's just the super delegates. on her side, it's not. >> i understand that it's not just the super delegates, but when you look at this from a broader perspective, how many are within the democratic party and frankly to say the process is better because they won bill clinton and barack obama, they also gave us al gore and bill clinton beat bush the first time
because of a third party candidate. this notion somehow the insiders are on a better track, it's not plausible to me. >> bruce, ten seconds left. the last word? >> yeah. at the end of the day, winning, it's on our side. donald trump talks about winning. we're the ones that are going to win. go for it, baby. >> bruce? >> i'll listen to both sides today, but when the democrats vote, we'll be ready to make a decision pretty soon. >> we'll be watching both of your states. thanks so much, gentlemen. coming up in our next hour, vermont senator bernie sanders joins us live on "new day" to talk about all of this. severe storms. real one. not of the political variety, that could spawn a tornado outbreak across the entire midsection of our nation. how long is this threat going to last? we have the forecast for you, next. but with nexgard, their flea and tick killer doesn't have to be. nexgard, the vet's #1 choice for dogs, is a delicious, beef-flavored chew that kills both fleas and ticks. so it's easy to give, easy to take.
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thankhow you doin'?oday. well today's gonna be pretty easy. i want each of you to grab a 2x8 and cut it. you'll have 2 saws to choose from. a power saw, or a handsaw. so which saw did you use? power saw. power saw. power saw. you all chose the most powerful tool. wouldn't it make sense to make the same choice, when it comes to your truck? absolutely. this is the 2016 chevy silverado. it offers the most powerful engine in its class. (whistle) awesome. i'd say it's the best tool for the job. right on. it is super tuesday times four. >> yes. >> okay. we've had several of them, but this one matters a lot
especially in the northeast. for all the process, rigged, not rigged and collusion conversation, what actually happens to voters? we have people from pennsylvania joining us. >> looking good, looking sharp this morning. >> they sit like pros, these people. they have sat very well. thank you for being here with us. >> really great. >> show's hands to make it easy here. connecticut, pennsylvania. who's connecticut? okay. pennsylvania? okay, great. >> two and four. >> democrat? republican? >> undecided? >> yeah? >> okay. you're the lone wolf. all right. why don't we start with -- >> get at her. >> let's get at her. undecided. a republican but undecided. where's your head at right now? >> in theory a libertarian but registered republican. the ultimate election is up for grabs for me and depends on the candidate. >> what's going to sway you? >> you know what? really finding out what the real
issues come to fore, he has right now, if primary campaigning mode, and i think either of them needs -- either winner that looks like it's going to be hillary or trump, either are them needs to show are they going to come to the middle or stay pretty extreme. >> that's sarah. didn't even introduce them. >> sarah, who are you leaning towards today? >> right now i'm leaning towards kasich. i know it doesn't really matter in terms of the big vote, but on the substance, economy side and more middle of the ground on value side. >> sarah says doesn't really matter. you're right to say that. however, who here, i don't care, democrat or republican, feels it's okay if this gets decided at the convention? >> oh. >> yeah. >> pass the microphone to him. there we go. this is is john. >> no matter what happens in the voting, say trump gets to -- 1,237? >> no, no. if trump does get to 1,237, he
should get the nomination. >> saying as a cruz supporters. >> correct. yes. but i think they all agree if he does get the confirmed 1,237, then i will support him. or i support croouz, because i believe in his values. that's vital. >> and cruz and -- >> i'm a christian and my faith is everything. to me, a candidate that really talks about faith and religion is very important to me. >> all right. since we have the microphone down your way, betty, ask you a little bit. we know you are a hillary clinton supporter. give us your elevator pitch. why is hillary your candidate? >> i am so excited that we have a woman running for president, and that is the likely candidate for the democratic party, and i support her, because of the work she's done for women and children all of her career. i've watched what's going on
when she was first lady, working with women's small businesses and making sure that women were getting funding for their small businesses and watched her as secretary of state where everywhere she went around the globe, diplomatic work and then met with women's organizations. >> this is an elevator trip. that's all you get here, ten floors. compelling case. however, i saw the stink eye on your face as clear as the bernie on your shirt. what were you hearing from bernie where you have a different take? >> i just think that the ph footprint we've had in other countries is really not all that diplomatic. i think we've been harmful in a lot of other countries and that hillary clinton has been a force for that harm in other countries. >> is it true that you are bernie or bust? >> definitely bernie our bust. >> even if it is hilly that is the candida -- hillary that is the candidate? >> i won't vote for hillary.
i can't vote for her. >> you'd vote outside your party? how would you handle it? >> probably vote for jill styne. >> you're going to one of the off-main party candidates? >> i couldn't participate in the election. as a black woman, there are people that have died to ensure i have the right to vote and take it very seriously. i'm going to cast my vote, i have to cast my vote in a way i believe in. >> bernie or bust. >> what the shirt says. very color coordinated as well. jim, you're a donald trump supporter. the word "rigged." now, look, we get he loves high perp hyperbole, but do you believe the systemrigged and confusing and hard to understand and not specifically designed to frustrate him? >> a little of both. designed for insiders. we're used to primary. you win the primary, you're the nominee. for president, you win the
primary that and only begins the fun figures s out, win the primary, figure delegates, all of those around state conventions all they're lives want to be the delegates, don't support the guy who won the primary. i think it is designed to favor the party insiders, and donald trump is an outsider who wants to change things. >> marilyn, i want to get to you, i don't want to run out of time and make sure you get a chance. hillary supporter, why? >> absolutely. first of all, hillary has drawn the line in the sand. knows exactly where she stands on the most important issues. when it comes to racial injust is, when it comes to lgbt. when it comes to skills gaps that's going on in the country, she knows where she stands and is not afraid to push back. more importantly to me as a woman, as a latina, i understand the struggle that women have gone through in this country. first of all, the fact that we have voting rights has to do with the fact that women, like hillary clinton, have been the one to have the courage to take
charge, to break those barriers. having the first woman to be president of the free world would be something that will make change happen. >> and we'll leave it there with our panel. you all need to be recaffeinated. we'll let you have a break and bring you back in our 8:00 hour. well done. this next hour we'll talk about specific issues. a get to know you, and you did well. >> thank you. >> more compelling than the candidates. >> i know! >> a lot of super tuesday coverage ahead, including a live interview with senator bernie sanders who will make a case for himself. alisyn? lyin' ted announced that he can't win by himself. >> john kasich has decided to pull out of to give us a head-to-head contest with donald trump. >> it shows how weak they are. >> i've never told them not to vote for me. they ought to vote for me. >> i'm going to win the general election. >> wall street, thanks very much. we don't want your damn money. >> this election is really one with high stakes. >> if you come out to vote, drag
your friends, we're going to win here. >> remember, the goal here is to make sure we have a democrat in the white house. as the manhunt intensifies. >> this tragic story took a very interesting twist. >> we did find marijuana at the crime scene. grower operation. >> something you hear about in the movies. not something that would ever happen. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and michaela pereira. good morning, everyone. welcome back to your "new day." it is super tuesday, take four. the polls are now open in all five states with hundreds of delegates up for grabs today. will the front-runners, donald trump and hillary clinton, sweep the northeast tonight? donald trump continuing to slam his opponents even over pancakes. >> on the other side of the ball, hillary clinton hoping to shut the door somewhere on bernie sanders tonight. all proportional. if she gets a big chunk of the delegates, she'll get close.
what does victory mean? what is the path forward and why? we'll ask all of these questions to senator bernie sanders limbs. stay tuned for that in a couple minutes. of course, we have this entire 2016 race covered the way only cnn can. let's begin with jim acosta live in philly. jim? >> reporter: good morning, chris. donald trump appears to be on the fast track to win these amtrak primaries today. the gop front-runner is heavily favored to pull off a big sweep of the states up for grabs, but an alliance between ted cruz and john kasich has formed to slow the trump train as it's called and it's caught trump's attention. >> lieyin' ted. >> reporter: sensing an opportunity in the new alliance between ted cruz and john kasich, donald trump isn't just smelling blood. he's going in for the kill with a double-barreled attack on both cruz -- >> he's a joker. he cannot do it. so he said, let me form a
partnership, which i call -- what do we call it? it's called collusion, folks. >> reporter: and kasich -- >> it's like a spoiled guy, kasich. i'm not getting out, mom. i'm not getting out. >> reporter: trump even ridiculed kasich's eating habits as unpresidential. >> then you see him eating in the morning. ever see -- i have never seen. he's stuffing pancakes in his mouth like this. >> he has no answer, how do you bring jobs back to america beyond just printing it on a baseball cap? >> reporter: with a few one-liners of his own, cruz arguing to issupporters the nam of the game, delegates to clinch the nomination. and yielding new mexico and oregon to the ohio governor. >> that means indiana gets a straight and direct choice between our campaign and donald trump. >> reporter: but by monday afternoon the cruz/kasich alliance was already showing signs of strain with kasich
refusing to explicitly tell his indiana supporters to vote for cruz over him. >> i don't tell voters anything. i'm not there campaigning and it speaks for itself. >> reporter: staggoal, staying e to the convention kniss summer. >> i'd like to see an open convention and ted cruz would like sow see an open convention and trump is not. if it goes to an open convention, he's afraid he's got no chance of winning. >> reporter: john kasich cantaled a trip to indiana. he was supposed to appear at a fund-raiser later in indianapolis and donald trump is seizing on all of this. put out a tweet a couple minutes ago, says cruz/kasich pact under great strain. this joke of a deal is falling apart, not honorened and almost dead. very dumb. so a very donald trump tweet there on this cruz/kasich arrangement we're seeing take
place here. i did talk to a trump campaign advisers who tells me the cruz/kasich could have an impact on indiana but the trump campaign it both slow the gop's march to the nomination this summer. >> talk about this more with our next guest. jeffrey lord and former white house political director. hi, jeffrey. >> good morning. >> and tim miller, former jeb bush spokesman and advisers to an anti-trump super pac. hello, tim. >> hello, alisyn. >> tim, start with you and your anti-trump efforts. when you look at the polls and the predictions that today donald trump is going to sweep these five states, you, i believe, in your super pac have spent $15.7 million trying to stop donald trump? are you feeling discouraged today? >> no. look, we expected donald trump to do well in the northeast throughout this primary. you guys in cable news need the
story lines with the ups and lines, but a lot is driven by demographics. trump is doing better in some of the blue states in the northeast, and cruz is doing better in the midwest, and we haven't gone west yet. we'll kind of see how that goes. so i expect that cruz will do better once we get to indiana next week and then nebraska the following week. and the most important thing here is that we stop donald trump from getting to 1,237 delegates, because he does not represent a majority of the party. that's why we put this system in place. we need somebody that can get to a majority of the delegates, and we're going to fight him to make sure he doesn't get there. >> tim, stick with you one more second. >> sure. >> if donald trump does sweep tonight, do you change your strategy or keep spending money and press on with what you've been doing? >> i expect he will probably win all five of the states. when looking at tonight, a delegate play. trying to beat lihim in a few districts in maryland a few districts in pennsylvania where we can keep dell griegates from and move on to indiana and
nebraska, better tough-of-furf cruz. >> jeffrey, on to you. snippets, a couple choice morsels from yesterday to play for you. >> yes. >> lieyin' ted announced he cant win by himself. he cannot do it. he's a joker. >> you look at kasich. did you see him? has the news camera with him while eating. i have never seen a human being eat in such a disgusting fashion. this guy take as pancake, shoves it in his mouth. it's disgusting's do you want that for your president? i don't think so. >> do i look like a president? how handsome am i? right? how handsome. >> jeffrey, i see you laughing, hear the crowd laughing. obviously entertaining moments, but is this really the substantive talk we hear our
voter panel say they're craving from the candidates? >> of course not. i mean, that's -- humor. i can tell you that he's delivering a foreign policy speech, as a matter of fact, i think it's tomorrow at the washington press club and doing a series of these kind of speeches. i know some of the people involved working on the speeches with him. these things are coming. >> stop you a second. if he sweeps today, in other words, or maybe regardless what happens today, soon we'll see a new side of donald trump which digs in more and becomes more substanti substantive? >> yes. i know this for a fact, so, yes. >> can i just say, alisyn, this is ridiculous. we're not going to see a new donald trump. this happens every three weeks. the story he's going to be more presidential and yesterday was making fun of john kasich for the way he eats and sending out sexist tweets about heidi cruz. this is donald trump. he's a crude man. he's not going to change. >> jeffrey, this has been a bit of a pattern. what should make us think
something different is going to happen. >> wait. let me say i don't think tim understands here, but back -- i went and looked this morning. back in 1960 there was a stop kennedy movement on the part of democrats who were desperate to stop jfk from being nominated and my friend the presidential historian said there was a stop nixon movement and a stop carter movement. >> sure, but what about my question? hold on, tim. >> give me a great lake. >> john kennedy was no john kennedy in 1960. my point is -- >> hold on. what about that question, why should we believe we will see a different style of donald trump moving forward? >> well, because he's running for president of the united states, for heavens sakes. he's going to give policy speeches. there's nothing in the at least unusual about this. >> something should tell him he's running for president. his behavior over and over again has been far from what we would expect from the president. imagine our children, your grandchildren, jeffrey, watching the tv when he's cussing, and
making sexist comments? this should have stopped months ago, and he refuses to stop. refuses to change. this is his core as a man and he's not going to change and you guys can promise it all you want but we're not going to see any different. you see what you get and that's why he's so unpopular at the general electorate. >> all i can say, tim, i was at a rally here in harrisburg, pennsylvania at the farm shore arena, 10,000 people and they beg to differ with you. >> he managed to not cuss at one r r rally. that's really presidential. >> everything about donald trump's campaign has been unusual. including his rhetoric. at this point in the race making fun of rivals for eating, being disgusting. these are words that -- >> alisyn, all due respect we need to lighten up and have a sense of humor. the people i met at this rally loved him. they think he's got a great sense of humor.
they have a sense of humor. that we're supposed to be horrified, this is political correctness gone crazy. >> jeffrey, we can have a sense of humor, you can also offer serious proposals that we would expect from a presidential candidate, but we are one year -- it's been one year since he's been running. he has refused to do it. he has refused to take the time to learn about the issues, to learn about basic things, like the nuclear triad. donald trump has -- and you know, his top adviser roger stone said in a podcast monday he doesn't even like to read these sort of briefings. this is donald. he's crass, not serious and we expect better, and you can be not -- be serious about the problems the country faces. >> jeffrey, last word. 10 seconds. >> tim was advising governor bush and he's out of the race. these criticisms were made of ronald reagan not only as a candidate but as president. we've been here before. >> donald trump isn't a ronald
reagan, even a john kennedy. sorry, jeffrey. >> thank you, gentlemn. we'll talk again. >> well navigated. a pivotal day for both democrats. hillary clinton hoping to pull away with a northeast sweep. bernie sanders, though it may be his last shot at staying alive. cnn chris frates is live in montgomery county, pennsylvania with more for us this morning. chris? >> reporter: good morning, mic. welcome to super tuesday. the quad -- quatra, the biggest state of all five states voting today. >> you have an enormously important democratic primary. >> reporter: today's high-stakes primaries have bernie sanders calling for his supporters to turn out. >> if you come out to vote, drag your friends and your aunts and your uncles and your co-workers. we're going to win here in
pennsylvania. >> reporter: with nearly 400 delegates up for grabs, hillary clinton could effectively close the door on sanders. >> if you vote for me tomorrow i will stand up and fight for you. >> reporter: on the stump clinton is already looking past her democratic rival and forfocn potential convention. >> it's deeply troubling. it's not only offensive, it is dangerous. >> reporter: leading in the polls the former secretary of state is expected to win big. her likely cre lly clean sweep forcing sanders to talk about the differences between them. >> the differnces between secretary clinton and myself -- >> secretary clinton -- >> secretary clinton is -- >> reporter: but clinton is ready for sanders to concede, much like she did in 2008. >> i didn't say, you know what? if senator obama does x, y and z maybe i'll support him. i said i am supporting senator
obama. >> reporter: doing everything he can to keep trump out of the white house, it is up to her to sway his voters to her side. now, if you want a sense how sanders and clinton think they'll do today, look where they're going tonight. hillary clinton will be just down the road here in philadelphia holding an election night event in a state where she's leading by double digits. bernie sanders will have already moved on holding an event in west virginia, but sanders says that he will fight until the very end, and, in fact, it looks like he'll have the money and support to do just that and, chris, i'm interested to hear what he'll tell you in a few minutes about his strategy today and going forward, chris. >> well, good. you're going to have a great seat for that interview, my friend. let me know what you think of it. let's go from mr. frates to folks in maryland. they're making their voices heard. polls there opening just moments ago. we have cnn's brian todd live at a polling place in baltimore. look. already people there, brian. good. what are you seeing? >> reporter: a lot of voter enthusiasm here this morning,
chris. it is primary day finally. we've heart the nicknamed, super tuesday 4.0, the amtrak, all where the fun starts here in the mt. washington lower school in the northern section of baltimore. these lines were out the door a moment ago when polls opened. now they've formed two lines. you what you do, come in, already registered. you can't register same day here in maryland. already registered. show i.d., date of birth and party affiliation and they hand you a paper ballot. that's new here this year. instituting a new system, because they want a paper trail for the voting. used to be digital. now they want a paper trail. you come in, check in here. what we love to show you on voting days. the vote in realtime as it happens. they're checking in here. they got 14 polling stations here, chris, where people are going to count, cast paper ballots and enter them into the scanner here where it's ditch eddized and put in for the party
later to tabulate all the votes. crucial day for hillary clinton. one of her strongholds here in baltimore. in this area here, her stronghold. also pg county near washington is a place where hillary clinton should do well, favored here. also donald trump favored here as well as some of the other northeastern states. we'll see how it plays out and be talking to a lot of voters as they leave here what their feelings are about hillary clinton, donald trump and all the rest. chris? >> appreciate it, brian todd, we'll check back in a little bit. of course, stay with cnn all day for coverage of today's super tuesday primaries. folks heading to the polls. five states, a lot of delegates up for grabs. connecticut, delaware and others. >> bernie sanders hoping a huge turnout will lead to big surprises tonight, we'll speak with him live, next.
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which states does he think is, are most likely for him? what if he doesn't win? what matters going forward? discuss with the man himself. senator bernie sanders joining us from philadelphia. senator, thank you for joining us. good luck in the primaries as we wish all the candidates. do you see a state you can point out and say, i think we can win there? >> well, i will give you the exact results at about 11:00 tonight, chris. but i think we stand a very good chance to win some of the states today. i think we have a shot in pennsylvania, connecticut, rhode island. maybe delaware. i think maryland is going to be tougher for us, but i think our message that there is something wrong when the middle class continues to decline and almost all new income and wealth is going to the top 1% that we have a corrupt campaign finance system in which super pacs and billionaires are big elections, that is resonating all across this country. we have won 16 states so far and i'm looking forward to winning a
number more. i think we have a path to victory and will fight this until the last vote is cast. >> if clinton gets the 200 delegates some are estimating she'll get out of the 385 tonight, do you still believe you have a path forward, to victory? >> yes. it's a narrow path, but go have a path, and the idea that we should not contest in california or a larger state, let the people of california determine what the agenda of the democratic party is and who the candidate for president should be is pretty crazy. so we're in this to the end. and i think that when you look at national polling, where in virtually every national and state-wide poll, bernie sanders runs a lot better against donald trump and other republican candidates than does hillary clinton. i think you've got super delegates there who say, you know what? we need a strong candidate. we need a candidate who can beat trump, maybe bernie sanders is that candidate. >> it's not about what you do, i think, so much people in your party are talking about, but
how. you said, we need a strong candidate. at what point do you start saying that hillary clinton is a strong candidate? at what point do you start merging into a party-first mentality, or do you never do that? >> well, we're in this race to win, and we're in it by running an eschew-oriented campaign. something i've tried to do from day one. there are differences of opinion between hillary clinton and myself, and i think when you arg gow out tho argue out those disagreements, i mean minimum wage should are $15. against a ban on national fracking. that's is not her position. i opposed all sdamp rouse tradi agreements. that is a good mark for democracy for the democratic party, gets more people into the process, results in a higher voter turnout and democrats win when there is a high voter tonout. we lose when the turnout is low. >> understood. i want to ask you who's been
turning out and what it has meant to your candidacy. first, second clinton says, look, sanders should run his race, stay in as long as he likes, but when i got out i did so without conditions. i told my people in 2008 you have to be for barack obama, we must be one. there were no conditions. would you support hillary clinton as the nominee without conditions? >> well, i think what the democratic process is about, chris, is going to the convention and arguing about what the platform should be. i happen to believe the united states should join the rest of the industrialized world, guarantee health care to all people as a right, if you need paid family and medical leave -- >> would you still support -- >> chris -- chris, media spends too much time speculating. let's see what happens. >> it's not a -- >> chris, the way -- >> it's not a reach to say the party won't come out to ban fracking, free college across
the board. that's why i'm asking. >> well, then, we'll see what happens. we are going to have -- if we don't win this thing we're going to have a lot of delegates in philadelphia, fighting that fight. and i'm not convinced, and you don't know what the delegates there will do. did you do, please tell me, but you don't. we are going to go to the american people saying, this is the agenda for the working people. yeah, the billionaire class has to pay more in taxes, do away with corporate loopholes and multi-national corporations not to pay a nickel in federal taxes, and i think we can win some of these platform fights. the winner, whether it is secretary clinton or myself, our job is then to go out to the american people on a platform that makes sense to the working families of this country, and then we win with a large voter turnout. >> and it will be something to behold to watch that discussion, that argument, whatever you want to call it happen at the convention, and you're right to call for it. i understand that. earlier you had said, hey, we won a bunch of states.
16 states. it's about who's voting, how many come out to vote. 16 out of 17 states with highest income inequality you haven't won. that's because poor people don't vote you said. that's true that happens, however a lot of people do vote, do well, work hard for it who may feel they are targeted by some of your proposals. when you say i'm not for the billionaire class or the banks what do you say who voters who work in those banks, do you represent them as well? >> look, there are decent people in every area of life. and i want every vote, but, chris, i've been all over this country. i've been to flint, michigan. i've been to detroit where the public school system is collapsing. hartford, connecticut where hall of the children in that city are living in poverty. we have a grotesque level of income and wealth where the
wealthiest own more wealth than the bottom 150 million people. where senior citizens of disabled vets trying to get by on $10,000, $11,000 a year on social security. i am doing my best to stand with those people and for the billionaire class, they're doing just fine. many can afford to pay more in taxes. large, profitable corporations should not be stashing profits in the cayman islands and not paying a nickel in taxes. i will fight for social justice, environment justice, fight global chilimate change, i'll d my best for the american people. >> one proposal bubbling up, you said if i were president in my first year i would let 500,000
people, get them out of the jails. they don't belong there. if you were to include all federal prisoners in that number you'd still be hundreds of thousands votes short. if this is what you may want to do may sound great to democratic voters but your ability to get it done may fall short by compromise or policy? >> look, every proposal that we have brought forth, including what you have just talked about, whether making public colleges and universities tuition-free, we do that through a tax on wall street speculation. rebuilding our crumbling infrastructure, creating 13 billion jobs, we do that by ending this loophole that allows corporations to stash their money in the cayman islands, and in a given year not pay a nickel in taxes. in terms of our prison population, we have 2.2 million people in jail, more than any other country on earth. disproportionately african-american, la tatino and
is an absolute disgrace. i'm investing in skids and schools not jails and incarceration. conservatives agree with progressives understanding it makes more sense to send our kids to college than to send them to jail, because it's less expensive to do so. so i believe not only in terms of federal prisons, but in terms of state prisons, we, in fact, can work together to make sure, a, people do not go into jail, because they're going to be in school or in jobs, and, b, get those people who are in jail who can get out under strong release programs out of jail, and i think we can substantially reduce the prison populations. >> senator sanders, good luck in the northeast primaries today and going forward. as always, thank you for talking about what mastersmasters -- man "new day." >> thank you very much, chris. stay with us. more on today's big political matchups on both sides of the aisle. how will delegates shake out and
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so when you get home, all you have to do is enjoy it. we're doing everything we can to give you the best experience possible. because we should fit into your life. not the other way around. already hitting the polls this morning. donald trump making his final pitch just moments ago. >> i just hope everybody goes out and votes, because this is really something special. it's a movement. it's truly a movement. >> trump and clinton looking to build on their delegate lead. how will it all play out? cnn political analyst and magic wall wizard david gregory, back with us to look at the delegate map. >> that is my official title, actually. >> i'm glad. this is going to get a little
complicated. fasten your seat belt, david. look where we are today on the republican side. we all know the magic number of 1,237. how do you see this playing out? >> 172 at stake today. loopholes in that which we'll get to, but a big night for donald trump expected gets him over 1,000, to within perhaps a couple hundred delegates where he needs to be. >> look at the specific races. the five we'll see today. >> right. >> obviously, pennsylvania is the big prize. what do you see here? >> pennsylvania, big prize. talk about how that works. look at all of these states, first of all, it's near his home territory of new york. we expect him to have a big night. talking about donald trump here. these are also states that are democratic states in the fall on the electoral map. that's important, where trump had particular strength. >> talk about pennsylvania. there's a lot of delegates up for grabs. how does it play out? >> if you win this state, you get the 17 up for grabs. a huge loophole here, they call it a loophole primary, where 54 of the delegates are unbound. so he could win the state and
still say, hey, we're voting for whoever we want to at the convention, meaning all of the campaigns can be in the business of trying to woo them, get their delegates who will vote for them committed at this point. >> donald trump doesn't like that. >> he doesn't like that. >> why he thinks it's rigged. you win the state, you should win all the delegates. his argument. >> it becomes important when talking about being so close to the magic number. >> you think that's complicated? let me show you connecticut. what's happening here? >> this is just a lot of verbiage. bottom line, if you win the state you get a small number of delegates. in other districts, at least 20% to get the winner take all. some isn't even winner take all. a hybrid. if you're cruz or kasich, capture a few of districts, what they're looking for. >> you lost me at hybrid. here is -- we're looking at it on the democratic side. >> right. >> the number here is 2,383. what do you see? >> a big distinction, 700 delegates that includes the
super delegates who could flip theerp rettically, don't think they will. even the raw delegate number over 200 delegates for a lead for hillary clinton, very difficult to make up. nearly impossible for bernie sanders to make up at this point. >> that's interesting, because chris just talked to bernie sanders, and he was saying he basically think it's premature to talk about a future date, and in through california. look at what's happening -- talk about that. here's what's happening today. how does this break down? >> remember, on the democratic side, these are states that are pro poportio proportional. bernie sanders, trying to win delegates. hillary clinton around gun control and violence in connecticut. he hopes to do well, looking, new haven, for example, could be a district with younger people that could be helpful because of yale university. there's room here for him to get some delegates, but you still expect her to have a very big night. gets her ever closer, makes it
just that much more difficult for him to do anything to camp up to her. >> look at the future. >> yes. >> all eyes on indiana. this is happening may 3rd and this for republicans you know, the point where the kasich/cruz alliance what they're going to do.ing ining indiana? >> conservative state. in the fall, election, conservative republican governor. a red state. 57 delegates. a state that should favor ted cruz. close in polling to donald trump. not great polling out of there. if trump wins, that much closer, shows he can win all over the m map. if cruz wins here, a big move to stop donald trump from getting to the magic number. >> with kasich out of indiana or nor actively campaigning there, cruz can win there? >> he absolutely can. you see kasich saying, if you want to vote for me, vote for me. not completely backing out so
that may complicate the efforts for cruz. talking tonight in the zone of a couple hundred trump is away. any place on the map. this is 57. this is winner take all. a big number. either way. to stop trump or for trump to get closer to 1,237. >> talking to bernie sanders live talking about the future. let's look into the future. shall we? these are the primaries left. >> if you're bernie sanders one of the reasons you're not conceding anything now is you realize you may have a tough time tonight. but you look at the map. you look at -- in the midwest, look up here where he's done well. these are states with whiter populations, a lot of progressives, less diverse states where he's proven he can do well. not doing as well in diverse states. oregon, new mexico. he could rack up victory there's giving him more momentum even if not a shot on the map. >> david gregory, thank you for figuring it all out. difficult magic wall. >> we did it.
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four different residences. three of which, we understand, they discovered some marijuana grow operations. we understand that county, pike county in ohio, has had some drug history before. you hear all of those facts, mike. what does that tell you? what is your instinct saying? >> i worked in mexico a total of 13 years and the murders that took place in ohio have the signature of most mexican cartels, the way they carry out, you know, extermination operations. the violence, very cold, methodical, and you're about utely righute -- absolutely right's in in 2013, plantations of marijuana fields grown in the area and a link to the mexican drug cartel. it's still early to say whether or not that is the case. however, you know, it could be the fact that this family, the
rhoden family, were cultivating marijuana, apparently, may have been in competition with, you know, some of these cartel members. the investigation continues. but the fact is that it does have the signature of what mexican cartels do in mexico. >> it's early on in these investigations and i know authorities tend to keep close to the vest with details, because there's so much that could be at stake here, but we know they did say these grow ops were present, reluctantly said that. is there any other reason they may be remaining so tight-lipped about this? >> well, usually when they're conducting homicide investigations they don't want to put out a lot of the evidence or information that they have, particularly when they are going to be interviewing a lot of individuals. so they want to keep a lot of that to the vest so that you know, see what they can garner from potential suspects.
>> mike, so grisly. they killed an entire family but left babies. a 4-day-old baby alive next to a movie who had been shot. a 3-year-old, a 6-month-old baby. why that separation? kill an entire family but leave these infants, thank god, mercifully, alive? >> well, the fact is, too, that when they killed infants, when they kill children, in the event that they're captured and they go to prison, within the convicts, within the prison system, they'll kill individuals who molest children, who kill children. so there may be a reason. the other factor to consider is that, you know, these infants and the 4-day-old baby could not act as witnesses so they left them, but still, you know, the killings were execution style. they were extremely methodical,
cold-blooded, and all i can say is, it's rare to have something like that happen on u.s. soil. >> yes. absolutely. i mean, they've searched -- search warrants issued to 50 or 60 people. they've gotten hundreds of tips already. they've gotten all sorts of evidence, et cetera. this is something new we were learning as well, that one of the young members of the family. 16-year-old christopher rhoden jr., the ohio attorney general apparently told abc news that a threat had been made on facebook against this young man. anything to the nature of that threat that says anything to you? >> not really. simply because a barking dog is not usually going to bite. it's the dog that doesn't bark that's going to bite, and i don't think they would want to telegraph what they were going to do in terms of the homicides. but let me also make this point. it's that a lot of mexican drug cartels are coming into the united states, are going into
rural areas. they're going into national forest land and they're cultivating marijuana for distribution here in the united states. why? because it's less risk than cultivating it in mexico, and then having to transport a bulk drug across the 2000-mile u.s./mexico border. >> right. always appreciate your voice on these things. thanks for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> alisyn, to you. back to politics. voters heading to the polls in five states today. donald trump slamming the cruz/kasich alliance. we have the rnc's chief strategist joining us, next.
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the mouthwatering soft chew that goes to work in seconds to conquer heartburn fast. tum tum tum tum. chewy delights. only from tums. we have a rigged system. we have a corrupt system. this whole thing with the delegates is ridiculous. you have to go out and you have to get your beautiful delegate card and you have to vote for your delegates. the delegates. it's crazy. donald trump last night, pointsing to two things to make a single thing. you see these crazy rules, my opponents getting together. the system is rigged.
is the argument going to resonate in the contest today. let's talk to the communications director of the rnc. always good to see you my friend. >> good morning. >> the word rigged, as it passed through his lips, you winsed. you don't feel it is right. because? >> we've used it since 1856. the delegates of our party elected by the grassroots through all the territories, chosen for the nominee, the rules we abide by. so it may be a complicated system, but it is a grassroots system, democratic system that recognizes the various states and territories. craft a primary, convention or caucus, whatever is best for them. the democrats, frankly, have a much more washington based center system. i think that's wrong. i think that the way we do it recognizes the difference states and territories have. >> a bipartisan blow back,
right? who are they, what do they do, is the proportion out of sorts and mitigating the common vote. on your side, it's even if it's not rigged, even if it's not done by design specifically to thwart. >> it's not that confusing. >> people like me, it could be confusing. connecticut primary, hybrid, 20% threshold, winner take all for 13 statewide delegates, winner take all by district, 15 district delegates. this is a complex system. >> sure. >> people will point to it to say by design. >> fair point. but look at who is leading on our side. ted cruz and donald trump. two folks you would never call insiders. nobody thought at the beginning of the race thought the establishment was picking. so when you look at the outcome, it's exactly the opposite of what is being accused of. i would argue the system is
fair. right now, the two individuals that have gotten the most votes have the most delegates. you have guy like donald trump who has 35, 36% of the vote, and has about 45% of the delegates. it has worked in his favor. >> so -- >> by the way, look where we are today. a primary in rhode island that matters on both sides shows you the system is bringing in more voters, more states than ever before. when i voted in 2008 in virginia, the race was over. it was a civics lesson to go out and check the box. >> you were exercising the franchise. >> but now you're seeing all the states, we're going to go until june 7th. every state and territory in america will participate in the republican process to help choose our nominee. >> trump and the other outsiders to call them that, argue that's happening despite the system, not because of it. and then he'll point to specifically trump and his supporters, look at his alliance. he'll call it collusion. by definition, it isn't.
because that's a is he cresecre. this is not illegal. do you endorse this combination of kasich and cruz for the sole effort from getting delegates. >> we don't endorse anything. our job -- >> being fed through the system. >> this is a system that was set up years ago. the idea that we're -- we thought that far ahead that we actually -- >> the two guys combining, did you wants them to do this? >> we don't want anything. we want the best nominee that will win in november. plain and simple. i want conservative values restored. a president that tackles the debt. >> two combining against one, does that sound right? >> that's not what i want. i want every candidate to run the best race possible. fair, open transparent process, where at the end, two of the individuals who won't win, because by definition, they can't, if they walk away and say it was fair, i didn't win.
i went in with as much passion for my guy as possible. we lost. it was fair. let's unite. beat hillary clinton. >> now, we've known each other a long time. i remember when we came here, we met here with the organizations, you were trying to sell us at the convention. don't under sell the convention coverage. you guys try to skimp during the convention. yeah, yeah, we'll be at the convention. could you have ever imagined that your convention would be bringing to a head this process in a way that certainly hasn't happened in our lifetime, including 1976. it wasn't like this. >> it is going to be an amazing piece of history, no matter what. you look at the eyes of the world, not just the country, are going to be on cleveland this year. we're going to put on a world class event that people will be proud of. i really mean that. it's not just what will come out, the city of cleveland, a largely democratic city, so proud to host this convention, and put their city on the spot. but more than that, the people that we have there running it are the best in the business. they're going to put on a
convention that shows how democracy works. every vote is going to be seen live on television. the process, people are going to learn a lot about how the process works. i think he end of the it, they're going to see a united party, move our party into the white house in november. >> do you think the rules will change, the party will suggest that this convention, hey, we've got do things differently, too much despairry, too many different layers in how you get delegates. >> what we're going do, the 2016 will pass rules for the 2016 convention. i don't know what they're going to do. i don't see some dramatic shift in what will happen. it's up to them. our party, when you look at what is going on in our party, rhode island, you have the democratic governor closing 67% of the polling places. for all of the heat our party takes, look at what their party is doing. they're closing polling places. that's wrong. what you will see in our party, we want to bring people in,
wants to grow, talk about how to grow, how to give people more prosperity. >> saean spicer, you want it to be fair, up and up, but football fan wise, you like to go with tom brady and the patriots. >> he is america's quarterback. >> you new yorkers want to attack america's team, america's quarterback. >> i don't want to deflate your hope for the football season. >> let science be your guy. >> i didn't see that coming. what do you think about the situation? not the football stuff. we can talk about that another time. tweet us or go to facebook and let us know about what you think what's going on right now. all right, so coming up, more coverage, including an interview with a former governor of new york, george pataki, he has big ideas what's going on in his party. let's get right to it. cruz and kasich have just joined forces. >> i would ask governor kasich supporters to stand with us.
>> lyin' ted, kasich, 1 for 41. >> desperate and fearful. >> i understand that donald will whine. that's what he does. >> we stand a very good chance to win. we're in this to the end. >> no matter what our differences might be, they pale in comparison to the republicans. >> kasich and cruz, it's disgusting, i don't think so. >> beyonce's album. >> queen bee blockbuster, love triangle, who is becky with the good hair? ♪ >> better call becky with the good hair. >>announcer: this is "new day," chris cuomo, alisyn camerota. 8:00 in the east. let's take a look at where the voters are heading.
five northeast states up for grabs. lots of delegates there to be had. front-runners, trump, clinton, looking strong, hoping for a sweet tonight. >> if she wins big tonight, it will leave little room for sanders to go on. sanders begs to difficult rememb -- differ. northeast voters about the issues that matter most to them. super tuesday number four, covered only the way cnn can. let's begin with jim acosta in philadelphia. hi, jim. >> reporter: donald trump appears to be on the fast track to win the amtrak primaries as they're called today, the gop front-runner trying to pull off a sweep. the alliance has formed to slow his momentum. he has responded by pouring on the insults, a lot like pancake syrup. >> lyin' ted.
>> reporter: sensing an opportunity between ted cruz and john kasich, donald trump isn't just smelling blood, he is going in for the kill. >> he is a joker. he cannot do it. so he said let me form a partnership, which i call, what do we call it, it's called collusion, folks. >> and kasich. >> spoiled guy, kasich. i'm not getting out, mom. i'm not getting out. >> reporter: trump even ridiculed kasich's eating habits. >> you see him eating in the morning. he is stuffing pancakes in his mouth like this. >> he has no answer. how do you bring jobs back to america, beyond just printing it on a baseball cap. >> reporter: with a few one-liners of his own, cruz arguing the name of the game is denying trump the magic number to clinch the nomination, which is why cruz is planning to focus
on indiana, where he is stronger. while yielding new mexico and oregon to the ohio governor. >> twha means is that indiana gets a straight and direct choice between our campaign and donald trump. >> reporter: but by monday afternoon, the cruz/kasich alliance was showing signs of strain. with kasich refusing to explicitly tell the indiana supporters to vote for cruz over him. >> i don't tell voters anything. i'm not there campaigning and it speaks for itself. >> reporter: stressing he has his own strategy, to stay alive until the party meets for the convention. >> i would like to see an open convention. ted cruz would like to see an open convention. i think trump would not. he is afraid if he goes to an open convention, he has no chance of winning. >> reporter: now, there is a fresh tweet from donald trump this morning, responding to this cruz/kasich pact. we put it on up screen. the cruz/kasich pact is under great strain. the joke of a deal is falling apart, trump says, not being
honored and almost dead. very dumb. a trump advisor tells me they believe the plan could have an impact on indiana, but it does not believe it will stop trump from getting to the magic number of 1,237 delegates. kasich is still scheduled to attend a fund-raiser later today and i talked to a consider cruz campaign source, they said they don't mind kasich is making the trip. we're look at the agreement as our best opportunity to beat hillary clinton, but chris and alisyn, no question about it. the odds are stacked against them, a bit like a short stack. chris and alisyn. >> i like the metaphor. also a fresh tweet. >> reporter: maybe i'm just hungry. let's bring in former new york governor george pataki. he has endorsed governor oh john kasich.
do you think donald trump will sweep the five states? >> i think he'll have a good day today, but it doesn't mean the inevitable nominee. the idea that senator -- governor kasich will concentrate on certain states and senator cruz on other states, is a positive thing for the republican party. >> i mean, they are not -- they don't seem to be as positive as it as you do. it seemed as though they announced it, but. >> they're running national campaigns. i saw the clip from governor kasich. he he is not going to tell people, even though you like me, vote for this one. >> let's take a step down this road. why do you think it's the right decision? would you have ever done this in any of your campaigns, where you couldn't -- you weren't catching the person, the man or woman in front of you and you would go to the other one and say let's get together to try to stop him. >> this is different. a lot of republicans do not want donald trump to be the nominee.
about 60% of republican voters say we don't want trump, but because it is a three way race, he gets 40%, the rest get 30%, and he wins. >> but that's the people deciding. >> it's a loser for the party, because two thirds of americans have a negative impression of donald trump. on the other hand, 55% have a negative impression of hillary clinton. so if the republicans nominate someone who actually has solutions that make sense and some experience in government, and certainly governor kasich has that -- >> have you ever heard of this happening, at this level, where the second and third guys decide, we can't win, the -- >> chris, i've never heard anything like this happening. you have somebody who a celebrity out there spewing nonsense as the front-runner. >> he has millions more votes. he has 45% of the electorate. your party wants him in terms of how the process is going. >> not the majority of the party. the majority of the party does not want him.
>> more than the other two guys combined. they don't want hillary either. this is the right decision to have an open convention, where republicans can say we want to win the election, we want to bring america together. donald trump is not the person. >> let's talk about how that works. so he doesn't make it to 1,237, but he is the closest one, let's say he is 100 delegates short. doesn't he get the first vote, second vote? >> of the delegates were chosen by people other than donald trump. he is a minority candidate. and they can go for whoever they think will best lead this country. a and win the election. it could be a very exciting convention. it could be a great convention. you look at conventions in the past, and they've produced people like abraham lincoln and teddy roosevelt on the democratic side, fdr. it is not a bad thing. >> that is certainly the positive outlook on how this is all going to go. i mean, you know, donald trump says that if it would be rigged. if he were deprived, it would be
a rigged system. >> so he has a majority of the delegate whose are against him. the majority of the voters -- >> more votes than anybody else has. >> because it has been split among delegates. suppose there were 17 candidates, and he had 21%, does that mean everybody else should step aside. >> yes, that's exactly what it means, governor. you win the -- >> democrats would love that, you know, to see us nominate donald trump. >> why would the democrats love it? you believe those polls are predictive right now when kasich may or may not have name recognition, cruz on a national side. >> i think things will change, on the other hand, i believe donald trump will change. and i think for him to be able to bring americans together and win the election, he cannot be the candidate. we saw on the clips he is demonizing everyone else. not trying to inspire the americans. >> style points aside, and this may be a statement against personal interests, but in 1994, okay, that was a mood election.
george pataki comes from state government, runs against mario cuomo. >> i have heard of him. >> the mood of the country was against the incumbents, against what was going on in new york state, against the economy, and people were upset about it. they wanted change. this is a mood election. even more magnified, and donald trump has capture thad in your party like nobody else has, by your own admission. 150 candidates to get where he is right now, and now it seems like your party, even you as a party, you know, one of the statesmen of your party is discounting that. >> no, i totally agree. your analysis is exactly right. it is a mood election. people are anti-washington, anti-incumbents, but it is not enough to nominate someone who captures the mood at the moment. ultimately people will look and say can this person lead. can this person bring us together, do they have the vision what we need to do as a country to re-grow our economy, to strengthen ourselves.
i know hillary clinton is not the answer to that. which is why with an open convention, the republican party could come up with someone who captures that mood, yes. you have to do that. but also, capable of governing and has a vision for the future of america. >> governor george pataki, great to get your perspective. thanks for being here on "new day." >> why is there so much confusion in the electorate. thank you very much. democratic side, pivotal day, hoping for a big win, look, i'm almost there, this is all but over. bernie sanders saying not even close. we have a big mission and not enclo close to being over. we spoke to the vermont governor, what happens if today doesn't go his own way. what would make him merge these two different candidacies. >> it's a narrow path, but we do have a path. the idea that we should not contest in california, larger
state, let the people of california determine what the agenda is, and who the candidate should be it's crazy. we're in it until the end. when you look at national polling, virtually every national poll and every statewide poll, bernie sanders runs a lot better against donald trump and other republican candidates than does hillary clinton. i think you got some super delegates that say you know what, we need a strong candidate. we need a candidate that can beat trump, maybe bernie sanders is that candidate. >> not about what you do so much people in your party are talking about, but how. you just said we need a strong candidate. at what point do you start saying hillary clinton is a strong candidate? at what point do you start merging into a party first mentality, or do you never do that? >> well, we're in this race to win. and we're in it by running an issue oriented campaign. something that i've tried do from day one. there are differences of opinion
between hillary clinton and myself. and i think when you argue out those differences, i believe we should raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour. she believes it should be $12 an hour. i am against, i'm for a ban on national fracking. that is not her position. i have opposed all of these disastrous trade agreements. the debate is a good thing for democracy, for the democratic party, gets more people into the process. it results in a higher voter turnout, and democrats win when there is a high voter turnout we lose when the turnout is low. >> understood. i want to ask you who has been turning out in one second. first, secretary clinton says look, sanders should run his race, stay in as long as he likes, but when i got out, i did so without conditions. i told my people in 2008, you have to be for barack obama, we must be one. there were no conditions. would you support hillary clinton as the nominee without
conditions? >> well, i think what the democratic process is about, chris, is going to the convention and arguing about what the platform should be. . i happen to believe the united states should join the rest of the industrialized world. >> but if that's not where the party comes out, senator, would you still support her? >> chris, chris, chris, media spends too much time speculating. let's see what happens. >> it is not a -- >> chris, the way -- >> it is not a reach to say the party won't come out they won't come out to ban fracking across the board, they won't come out to say free college across the board. that's why i'm asking. >> well, then, we'll see what happens. we are going to have, if we don't win this thing, we're going to have a lot of delegates fighting the fight. i'm not convinced. you don't know what the delegates will do. please tell me if you do. but we don't. we're going to go to the american people and say this is the agenda for the working
people. yeah, the billionaire class has to pay more in taxes. do away with the corporate loopholes, not to pay a nickel in federal taxes. and i think that we can win some of these platform fights. the winner, whether secretary clinton or myself, our job is then to go out to the american people on a platform that makes sense to the working families of this country, and then we win with a large voter turnout. >> very important point of distinction between this race and 2008. clinton and sanders. this is a movement that he has. there are issues that are going to matter beyond the man. the message beyond the man. this is different than it was in 2008. >> yes. >> that's what is resonating for him. >> such a good point. it's true with trump as well. parallels all the time. what happens, even if the candidate goes aware, the mess sa message doesn't go away and then what? >> you heard him say, we are taking this through to
california. all right, five states up for grabs in the northeast, a bundle of delegates, voting underway in states like connecticut. live in hartford with more. how are things looking and feeling there? >> reporter: we just ran into the secretary of state, denise meryl after she voted this morning. polls going smoothly, opened for just over two hours no. we sort of got the same sentiment from people as they were leaving this polling station in hartford that it went pretty well. we also getting an echo of what we've heard from other voters in late primepre states like new york. they actually feel like their vote counts. i talked to one woman who said she grew up in a conservative area of connecticut. she said she is a registered republican, but she came here today, and she kept her republican status, and voted against the candidate. she actually wants to win. so there a little strategy there, and we talked to the
secretary of state's office to kind of ask about that. they said roughly 25,000 people have switched their affiliation since the deadline in january 1. so certainly, it speaks to a lot of excitement about this particular primary and we're going to see how it all unfolds later tonight. >> thank you. stay with cnn for coverage of super tuesday primaries. cnn has obtained a list of racially offensive texts allegedly sent by a san francisco police officer who is the center of an ongoing scandal. the messages were discovered as parts of air probe into sex assault allegations against him. the texts were homophobic and racist. the attorney says there is no tweets it impacted his job. this is the second texting scandal within the department. 14 other officers are part of a federal probe into racial bias. staying with news out of california, you're getting me ready for when i go to
california. >> this is terrible. >> i had to change the whole flow. bear on the lose in southern california. it was a cub, spotted on the college campus, which is very close to the angeles national forest. >> i have sent that bear to where you're going to be living. >> quite an adventure, running through the streets. helicopters, police overhead, front yards, backyards, scaled walls, fences, two hours he was on the loose before they used a tranquilizer gun on him. he was loaded on to a pickup truck, sent back into the wild. they try to tag them so they can find if it is a repeat customer. there was one known as meatball. >> that's how they see us, by the way. meatballs. what do you see as the moral of the story? >> the moral of the story, i'm heading to the land where bears are big news. >> roaming on sidewalks. you can't go there. that's dangerous. >> you're worried about my safety.
>> see, i'm not. here is what i'm worried about. the moral of the story is you don't leave where you're. you are supposed to be. the bear was nice in the forest, goes to the city, gets shot this is your chair. >> this is one of the five stages of grief. carry on with the show. hillary clinton, hoping sweep in the northeast primary also make it this close to her all be sealing the nomination. but bernie sanders supporters are about a message. what has to happen, next. you may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec® for powerful allergy relief. and zyrtec® is different than claritin®. because it starts working faster on the first day you take it. try zyrtec®. muddle no more®.
if preelection polls are correct, today is likely to be a super tuesday for hillary clinton. she could win all five primaries in the northeast by healthy margins, but that doesn't mean she'll shake the challenge from bernie sanders for the democratic nomination. doesn't mean it statistically or theoretically. let's discuss with delaware chris khuns, let's put up the mathematical portion. up for grabs in the five northeastern states. basically 385 delegates at stake. the state of play there. if hillary clinton gets what optimistic estimates suggest, 200 of the 385, she would
certainly move closer. but this is not a done deal, especially as we start to head west. do you agree with the analysis? >> well, chris, i'm excited for the primary today in delaware and for the four other states. i would agree that secretary clinton will almost certainly have a commanding lead after this evening. she already has a strong lead in the delegates needed to be our party's nominee. yesterday, she headlined a rally in wilmington, delaware, where she connected with the crowd and impressed me once again as likely the most season, capable and experienced nominee our party has ever fielded. senator sanders will continue, likely to be a challenge. i think senator sanders has contributed to the debate, and most of this campaign on the democratic side has been a positive and policy focused debate, compared with the insult fest on the other side. i do think, though, chris, it's increasingly unlikely that senator sanders will be our nominee. i hope he'll begin to reflect how best he can contribute to
the convention, to the fall election and to the party's direction in the longer term. >> if you take out the super delegates, this is a nail-biter. this is really close. this is something where probably neither candidate will be able to get to the number that they need of pledged delegates. so that's one level of push back. the other one, this is not just a man, this isn't even hillary clinton in 2008, this is a real movement that is around him. your party is going through something as close to an extensional crisis as it has in our lifetime. what about those two points? >> well, chris, i'll suggest that you're right and you're wrong on the point about an extensional crisis. you're right that senator sanders has mobilized a grass-roots movement. he has raised a great deal of money. brought out particularly young excited voters. that's a great contribution. but the differences between senator sanders and secretary clinton, while real, are tiny compared with the differences
that separate them from every republican nominee. it is a grand canyon of difference between them and the republican nominees. and the differences on the republican side between trump and kasich and cruz are truly foundational. so i think the extensional threat is on the republican side, where they disagree on virtually every major issue between the more mainstream republican candidates, who have served in government before and cruz and more and more trump, who says things far outside the mainstream, national security, to tolerance, to economics. >> well, on the gop side, you have definitional argument going on, who is conservative, who isn't, who are you. you have something different on your side, which is how much do you want it. when you say they're not that different, maybe, if this were going to be a written exam, where they come out on most things would be about the same. but in terms of what is your passion to make it so. how much are you willing to do, how much are you willing to fight. that's really what is engendered
a sanders movement. you don't you agree? >> bernie sanders gives great speeches. i've listened to my share of them of six years in the senate. of a solid grasp of how he views the world. the challenge of our party is can we accept the reality and the need to nominate somebody who has experience with working across the aisle. when she was senator for new york, secretary clinton achieved a series of bipartisan victories, and almost no likely outcome this fall where republicans will no longer control the house of representatives. frankly, chris, i'm sick of it. i'm sick of the last six years of dysfunction, where the republicans, mostly in the minority in my first four years, blocked president obama from making any substantial progress. while senator sanders may have a vision that's mobilized millions of young americans to believe in his hope, i think secretary clinton shares his core
progressive values, but also has the seasoned experience that makes it possible to translate that into actual action here in congregation and with our allies around the world. i'll give you a simple example. commitment to raising the minimum wage, something they share, something republicans don't believe in, in fact, they think we should abolish the minimum wage. whether it should be $12 an hour, $15 an hour, whether we can get it done this year or next year, but they disagree whether we should even have a minimum wage. secretary clinton's long experience in legislating at the federal level, executive branch, makes it much more likely that she'll take progressive values and translate them into concrete action for the working people of america. >> senator coons, appreciate you being on "new day" and making the case, as always. and good luck in the primaries today. >> thank you, chris. so no secret of the disdain
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today's five super tuesday primaries are expected to be another bill big haul for donald trump. a rocky relationship with the media during this race, none more so with the huffington post, moved trump coverage to its entertainment section. look at the lead story today with the headline, "national nightmare," talking about that, as well as her new book, "the sleep revolution, transforming your life one night at a time." let's start with trump. he is expected to win big today. look, your website has been overtly dismissive of trump, and not really wanting to take him seriously as a candidate. time to start taking him seriously? >> we started taking him seriously when he proposed 1.6
muslims from this country. >> that's when you moved him back -- >> to the new section, but editors note under each of the trump stories, that reminds the readers of who he is. he is a racist, sexist, et cetera. >> we do have that. i want to read it for everyone. at the end of every story. donald trump regularly incites political violence, and birther, who has repeatedly pledged to ban all muslims, members of an entire religion from entering the u.s. why not remind your viewers of past things about, say, hillary clinton, or bernie sanders? >> actually nobody who is a birther, which is really like believing the earth is flat. absolutely nobody who has asked to ban an entire religion from the united states. absolutely nobody who incites violence. these are the three things that make donald trump unqualified to
be president. and we are very proud of our coverage, because as more and more people are really waking up to the danger of a trump, including within the army, c.i.a., this is where our story is this morning, we are really committed to continuing to educate our readers about who he is. it is their prerogative how they will vote. but it is our responsibility to keep the facts in front of them. >> but the voters like him, and he keeps winning. >> some voters like him and some voters -- >> he is millions more than his rivals. >> unfavorable votes in the race. if you're republican, big problem if you actually want to win the white house. >> he is on track to win the nomination. would you change the tenor of your coverage? >> no, our tenor will remain the same. >> what if he becomes president. >> we will face that if it happens. >> i mean, you know, in terms of
journ journalism, would you take the tact of what was wrong with him. >> we always do that. he is very sleep depride, if you want to segue to sleep. he brags about sleeping four or four and a half hours. it shows, you know. he is outburst of angry, all symptoms of chronic sleep. >> you have this picture of what you think a war room would look le like. what are you seeing here, people that are his allies, a young blond woman in a camo outfit. what are you depicting here? >> well, it could be anybody in his entourage. it could be you, alisyn. i hope you're not moving to a war room. >> i do not have a camo belly
shirt that i wear. my point is you're doing advocacy, i guess, or what would you call pointing things like this out in the tact you're taking? >> what many in the media failing to do is dereliction of duty. what we're doing is responsible journ journalism, pointing out the dangers, why there is still time to avert it. it is our responsibility. we are proudly going to continue on the same tact. donald trump is both a buffoon and dangerous. we're going to cover him in both ways. >> let's talk about your book. this is what i've been so excited to talk to you about. the sleep revolution, anyone who wakes up at 3:00 a.m. needs the advice. americans are constantly sleep deprived. what is the answer? >> so the answer is to recognize that sleep is not optional. getting between seven to nine hours as i say in the book, based on all the latest science, unless you have genetic mutation
and you can get away with very little sleep, it is nonnegotiable. that's what improves every aspects of our life, our happiness. once we recognize that, like in your case, you have to get up so early, try to get a nap as soon as you can. >> that's good. i like that. how long should i be taking a nap? >> even 20, 30 minute nap. you will be restored. the key here is to recognize that if we are not feeling any joy in our lives, if we're just dragging ourselves through the motions, there is something wrong. >> of course you had that your own experience with that when you actually kieled over from lack of sleep. >> help people change their minds about sleep and then easier to change our habits about sleep. the book is full of tips and techniques about how to change your habits. keet the key is transition to sleep.
take the devices out of your bedroom. we are addicted to our devices. >> chris cuomo is tethered to his devices. thanks so much. great to see you. >> thank you. ironically, he is asleep now in the commercial break, but ariana. >> the sound of alisyn's voice. >> the election and media talking about all of these issues, but what do you this? what will matter when you go into the booth to vote. we're going to talk to the real voters, here about the issues. they're going to talk about the tone of the race. see what they think.
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real people, real choices. right. >> love it. >> let's do it right now. we have our panel of voters from connecticut and pennsylvania. what they think about the issues, and the tone. now, jim -- >> great to have you here all day. we love this greek chorus. >> not much chorussing, so let's get more now.
jim, donald trump supporter. tone is almost always referred to in the negative when it comes to your candidate. do you believe it is a fair assessment? >> it is a strength. donald trump has been the strong candidate in this race. it isn't always pretty. some of the words that he chooses, but he is addressing voters' real concerns. when he says in south carolina and the media all jumped on him and said it was a big mistake, the iraq war was a big fat mistake, a heard a republican candidate for president, acknowledging what my party hasn't come to grips with. that's powerful. >> when he says john kasich eats pancakes in a disgusting way. >> he knows how to have fun, the voters see through it, they get that. even when it came to talking about muslims and a ban on muslims, what i heard was this a candidate who is saying no one else is addressing the problem
of rid cal adical is lom and i' to protect the country. that's what i hear. >> sarah is undecided, republican, libertarians by trade, but you decided to register as a republican. i see you have very good poker face there, as jim was talking. i can't tell whether you agree or disagree. you said you were looking at kasich, feeling kasich, weren't sure. when jim talks, does it land with you, the right way? >> not really. i have to say that, you know -- >> the way he looks, because that's big. >> no, we were chatting in the back room, and you know, talking about how our backgrounds bring us to the views we have today. it became very clear, my midwestern, lutheran anti-conflict past comes to play here. that really drives a lot of my libertarians issues, but also drives how i feel about trump. >> how do you feel? >> i don't like him too much. again -- >> you don't like what he says. >> he is a very devry --
divisive person. undecided for the future, i'm interested to see how the candidates evolve. they're antagonistic and need to look different from everyone else now. >> do you think you've heard enough on issues? >> no. >> who said no? >> who said they've heard enough? >> a substantive issue. >> i say no. >> let me hear why. >> when you talk about trump, trump really hasn't talked about the issues. okay, i have nothing against trump as, i mean, he is a strong person. i agree with you. he is strong. i believe i am cruz supporter, because i am a conservative. as a christian, i believe faith has a lot to do called principles. i don't see trump talking about principles, or what he stands for. >> okay. what issues have you heard that you think have been really -- >> one of the important issues
hillary is talking about is equal pay for equal work. she has made that very clear. she has put it out there on the campaigns. she articulates the issues in a way that gets to me, that tells me she gets me. she understands them. she knows exactly where she stands on them. she has made that very clear. >> now, jhani feels the same way about bernie sanders. you saw him on the show today. when you saw him addressing different things today, how do you think he is different from clinton in the most important way. >> i think the, you know, we talk about issues and i think issues matter, but as it relates to bernie sanders, it's much more about also ideology and it's also about the driving force around like humanity. that's what bernie sanders represents. so we know that on various issues, whatever those issues are, that he is going to be coming from a place of caring about all of the people and driving things to make things better for everyone, and not really about the politics of an
issue. but about the basic human elements of those issues. that's what he has shown over the course of his career. >> betty. >> i would like to go back to the issues important to women, and jump off of what marlin was saying and jump off of what was being said in the interview before. there is actually a movement going on related to hillary that doesn't get a lot of attention. that is women supporting hillary. very quietly, she has been responsible for the victories in the states she has had major victories. it's because of her support for closing the gender wage gap. it's because she wants family paid leave. she is working to stop and always has been working to stop violence on campus. domestic violence, and globally, stopping human trafficking, paying attention to stopping rape as a weapon of war. so the global women's issues are motivating women around the country to vote for her.
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♪ with those words, beyonce's release of the "lemonade" setting off a firestorm. infidelity about none other than rapper jay zee. to discuss it all, michwe can g through so much of this. >> this is me googling. >> so here is the thing that's hard. there is one -- >> it might be a metaphor. >> is art just art?
this could be left for interpretation, beyonce saying you make of it what you will. >> yeah, i mean art in its best self-is doing what it is doing. it is guiding us, gets us talking, feeling, because i went through all the feelings. >> all the feelings. >> on the album. but part of it, is auto biographical. whether you're prince, a true artist, part of it biographical, right. >> we can pull up some of the l lyrics, you can taste the d dishones dishonesty, i regret when i put the ring on. >> i like ashes to ash, dust to side chicks, like i need that on a t-shirt. >> that's particular. >> but it is also collaborative. remember, she worked with dozens of really, really talented people. directors, writers, collaborators. >> so maybe it is all a
publicity stunt. >> in other words, maybe it isn't a window what has happened to her personally. >> that's a big trade, though. that's a big trade to make. if it's not real, this a big trade, just for popularity, for somebody who doesn't need more popularity. her husband is in the cross hairs of a lot of people right now. >> he is in the moment. he is in the film. so i think that if you look at the tradition of making art, people put their lives in it. people talk about betrayal, fear, ranke or making a great opera, that is what artists do. >> this isn't just -- this feels like it is not just some of those types of issues. this is either about her life or she wants people to think it is about her life. no two ways about it. >> artists put their art in their work some more ex police
sie police sit than others. when you're working out your life in your art, the intersections are there, particularly when you are in this culture, this now, where ever one's life is on instagram or digital media, we're in a different environment in terms of how we communicate, right. >> what about we've been seeing some criticism leveled at her from various voices about the idea of invoking the mothers of treyvon martin, eric bell, michael brown. >> michael brown movement. >> powerful. >> oh, my goodness. i also think that -- >> some saying you're capitalizing on it, sensation sensationalizing it. >> pop artists in a moment of upheaval or in civil rights, whether you are steph vie wondeo marvin gaye. this is a -- we're in a civil rights movement, black lives movement, if you are an open
artist, you're going to use it as fuel to communicate. we are in a visual era now, right. so whether you were nina simmone, stevie wonder, we have instagram, snap chat for ideas, integrate thought. that's what this is doing. she is making us not forget those mothers' faces, not forget those boys. >> there is value in that, no question. when you meet those victims' families, they want their pain to matter to somebody. interesting, segue, but not completely. the idea of talking about what's out there in a provocative way and putting it on your shoulders no matter what, that's all about the man that we just lost in prince. you knew him so well. when you see this, i see what beyonce is doing here is kind of like, you know, a junior version of what prince did on such big ideas at a time when nobody was doing it. fair? >> yes, i made the comparison yesterday, chris. i got a little push back, saying
this was kind of her "purple rain," meaning it is a flash point where you put out a piece of epic work. >> a high bar to call it "purple rain." >> but it's hers. it is not the same as "purple rain," but when an artist does a piece of work that is so full and we all start to talk about it. she is young. she has a lot of time. >> part of a revolution. always a pleasure. sorry to cut you off. we have to get to newsroom with carol costello. that's it for news -- "new day" today. ok. what if 30 million people download the app? we're not good. we're total heroes. scale on demand with the number one company in cloud infrastructure. whe gets a ready for you alert the second his room is ready.
lyin' ted announced that he can't win by himself. >> if you don't want to see donald trump as the nominee, if you don't want to see hillary clinton as the next president, then i ask you to join us. >> so he said, let me form a partnership. >> i don't tell voters what to do. it's up to them i would like to see an open conversion. ted cruz would like to see an open convention. >> it's called collusion, folks. >> we will have the future that we deserve, if we work together. i will stand up and fight for you. >> if you come out to vote, drag your friends and your aunts and uncles, coworkers, we're going to win here in pennsylvania.
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