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i saw a lot of people look over. i walked up 23rd and there was a cloud of i guess it was smoke coming toward me. some people were running away. i walked away for a split second. i thought, i don't have any of my gear or something. then i that you, geez, somebody could be hurt. let me go up there. immediately the police were on scene. credit to them and fdny. i started to get closer. i couldn't get close enough to see where the explosion was. i could not smell gas. the cloud that i walked through smelled like something had burst, a fire, smoke smell. >> that's just part of what some of the witnesses are saying. others are saying it felt like a lightning bolt struck the building, struck the ground. everyone ran into the restaurant. fortunately getting a lot of information from the folks there. we're still grateful you're with us this morning.
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>> next hour as far as right now. this is cnn breaking news. 6:00 on this sunday. welcome. we're so grateful for your company. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. we welcome our viewers for joining us. breaking news in new york. a blast rocked the chelsea community. investigators are analyzing surveillance video that they think should so he the suspect, the person responsible for this explosion. we have other video from the moment of the blast. watch this. you saw it there. the front window, the front door, the glass there shattered. you will see people run by. this is from inside a fitness center in chelsea. the camera pointing outside. we see the people there. we know dozens of people were injured as the force of the explosion blew pieces of debris flying everywhere, metal, glass. you saw some people running as well. >> officials say the bomb went off in or near a dumpster.
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there have a second device that looked like a pressure cooker with wiring. what you're looking at there is where the first blast was. this is the second device they're talking about. this device is being analyzed as we speak. cnn covering this story from all angles. cnn's jessica snyder is at the scene, kristina allepi outside the scene, tom if yfuentes is h. >> let's start with jessica snyder who is near the scene of the blast. jessica, get us up to speed on the latest in the investigation and what you're seeing at the scene. >> reporter: victor and christi, we've seen teams of police officers scouring the streets with flashlights and canines. in addition, about a 20 block stretch is shut down after that
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explosion that occurred just down 23rd street right near the intersection with sixth avenue. >> huge explosion. i saw the back window of the suv pop out, i saw the glass go into the street. my wife and i looked at each other and we went into sixth avenue. >> reporter: new york city on high alert after an explosion rips through the area. surveillance video captures chaos. >> felt like a lightning bolt struck the city. it shook the ground. >> we believe at this point in time this was an intentional act. >> reporter: the explosion happened around 8:30 p.m. in the chelsea neighborhood and it was in or near a dumpster according to a law enforcement force. dozens were injured. >> come with me. >> we do have video and we see the explosion. we're going to use that to help us in our investigation. >> reporter: several hours later police cleared a suspicious
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package four blocks away from the explosion site and they washed residents to stay away from their windows. reporters had to move as well. >> no, we're not. >> reporter: officials say a second device appears to be a pressure cooker with wires sticking out, a cell phone attached and a piece of paper with some writing. police confirmed it was moved by the bomb squad for investigation. >> because it was not detonated, there might be fingerprints, might be proof of purchase, there might be other things that can lead the investigation. >> reporter: right now the nypd does have surveillance video that shows one person near the scene. they're looking to figure out who that person is. they're also taking to twitter to implore people to come forward with information and one person who heard this explosion is aiden lently. i know you live two blocks from the explosion, one avenue over. what did you hear?
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what did you experience? >> well, i was sitting at my desk on 21st street and i heard obviously a loud explosion. it was abnormally loud. it was startinglily loud. i heard the explosion and moment later i heard debris falling on the ground like glass shattering. >> you actually ran outside. you ran down to 23rd and 6th or as close as you could get. what did you see there sfwh. >> yes. so i ran out of my house. i ran to 23rd street and i saw a ton of people coming -- going west. i was going east running actually toward the explosion or what i thought, you know, was the explosion. and i saw some people covered with debris, soot, dust. there was smoke. there was a lot of fire engines. a lot of police presence.
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i saw an elderly man which was very hard to watch. he had blood on his face, blood on his arms. >> reporter: were people panicking, screaming? >> it was a very chaotic situation. people were scared. people were on their phones. i was around for 9/11. you know, i remember walking down the west side highway and seeing kind of obviously not to this extreme but it was very reminiscent of that. >> people were scared? >> people were scared. you could see it on their faces. i was scared. >> reporter: police told people, they said, if you're inside your apartments in this area, stay away from the windows. you actually ran to this. what was the response like? >> i ran right into it. i think a lot of people ran into it. we were scared. we were curious. this is new york city. we're new yorkers and we don't
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necessarily run away from it. so that's what i was kind of getting from a lot of people in the area. people, you know, this is our neighborhood. obviously when you have something like this happen, we're very concerned. so maybe it wasn't the smartest thing to run into that, but at the same time, you know, we wanted to see what was going on. >> reporter: you saw a lot of it as it was unfolding. thank you very much. we'll toss it back to victor and ch ch christi. >> let's bring in tom fuentes and the writer of a book about "security mobim, protecting our homeland." >> tom mentioned whether or not
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this is terrorism. new york city officials are not calling it terrorism, they are calling it an intentional act. what do you say about it, julia? >> obviously this is an intentional act. two questions remain to call it obviously terrorism. and attack on a civilian area, like what we saw last night. the first is always the who and the motivation. the second, that we just, you know, have to figure out is the relationship between what happened in chelsea and the pressure cooker. the -- we need to just determine is that the same act. is it two separate random ones that seems unbelievable but nonetheless, we have to treat them as separate? how did police find out about the pressure cooker and so right now i think it's premature to
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call it terrorism until we know unless you -- you know, unless you want to define terrorism as any, you know, violent act in an urban area. given that there's no proof of motivation, you wouldn't be able to bring a terrorism case, so to speak, today. you certainly would be able to bring other types of cases if you found the culprit. >> tom, as we look at the dumpster that was injured, the reports having been heard from across the river. one image coming to you from "the new york times", is this indicative from your experience of a pipe bomb, backpack become, pressure cook zbler can you rule in and out of what we're seeing, potentially any of these potential devices. >> you cannot rule based on the devices that way.
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if you have pipe bombs, various devices you described, they could have various amounts of explosive material in them or packaged in different ways to be more powerful than the next. that in and of itself is hard to determine. the way the authorities determine how the bomb was made is they get the pieces of it and try to put what's left back together. no matter how large the bombs, i ran fbi operations in the summer of 2003 in iraq. i saw a lot of explosive devices and a lot of people killed by them. in every case there's some component, wires, pieces that enable the authorities the ability to figure out how it was wired, what the residue is, what shrapnel if any was due. they'll be able to put it
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together now. all of the material isn't always vaporized. >> tom, juliet, stay with us. we'll get back to you this morning. we also want to get more information on other big stories we're following this morning. >> yeah, we'll take a pause here quickly on the situation of the fact that we're watching in new york. there are a couple other stories to bring you up to speed with regarding the investigation into multiple stabbings now at a minnesota mall. police were forced to kill a man armed with a knife after he went on a rampage. this happened at the mall in saint cloud an our outside minneapolis. an attacker was dressed in a police uniform. most are okay. one still in the hospital. police are investigating whether the stabbing had any connection to terrorism. >> tonight at approximately 8:00 an armed suspect entered the
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crossroads mall. that individual made some references to alla and we have confirmed that he asked at least one person if they were muslim before he assaulted them. >> an off duty officer confronted the attacker before shooting and killing him. 29 people injured from the explosion there in new york. cristina alesci is outside bellevue hospital for that part of the story. kristina? >> reporter: nick, there are 24 people treated in new york city hospitals. one according to the nypd. we'll have more with one of the victims in a few minutes. if you're searching other travel sites to find a better price...
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investigators are analyzing additional video footage from the scope of a blast in new york trying to decipher if a person seen in that video could be connected to the explosion. here's another video showing you the moments of the blast. >> people seen running past the orange fitness center here. dozens of people wounded, we know. we have more video for you. we want to make sure you know it is a bit upsetting because there is blood here. first responders took these panic stricken victims to the hospital. right now police are trying to make sure there are no other devices, but you see here, this woman we know was concerned about her eye. we saw a piece of metal lodged in a woman's arm in this video as well. those are the types of injuries we're hearing about. we know two dozen victims were taken to new york city
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hospitals. >> some of the first people to get to the victims are bystanders who heard the blast and then ran to help. again, here is some more video with some sound here. i just want to give you a heads up because i don't want you to be taken off guard. it could be disturbing for you. >> come with me. come with me. come with me. i'm holding you, okay? come with me. you're okay. nothing's going to happen, okay? nothing's going to happen to you. come on. right here. i got you. i got you. right here. okay? it's okay. you're okay. >> one second, ladies. one second, ladies. >> that was a bomb.
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>> yeah, she's hurt. you have minor injuries. >> i know. >> so this is what's interesting to me as we watch this. you can understand and appreciate the confusion of these people. when you have a car accident, you know what happened. you know you're hurt. when you're attacked by somebody, you know you're hurt. you know what happened. in this case it's still so unclear what happened. a lot of these people seem dazed. they seem a little numb. you can imagine why. not only are they dealing with injuries but there are so many questions about exactly what happened. >> this is a community with restaurants, people live there, other businesses. we showed you the video from the fitness center. it was about 8:30 in the evening on a saturday night. this would be a time when people would be strolling by on a week ebd. >> yes. 23rd street. it was busy, we understand.
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one of the reporters, kristina alesci, said this is an area that would be bustling especially 8:30 on a saturday night. another video we're getting in here at cnn, a wounded man approaching an ambulance. you see the child there sitting down who obviously also has some sort of injuries. but look at how frail this man is. he's trying to get up inside the ambulance. look at this little boy. this is the compassion i think that we love to see in moments like this because it's so hard to take in these moments especially at 6:19 in the morning. that is hard to wake up to sometimes. look at this little guy as he helps this man get into the ambulance and sit down next to the other two people who were obviously there. those are four of the two dozen taken to hospitals to be checked out. just wanted to share that endearing moment with you from
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last night. >> yeah. >> we should point out as the one device exploded obviously there was glass and metal that tore through the air. that is what caused most of the injuries. >> and the force of this explosion itself was enough to affect the people nearby. watch this. >> it hit me. i flew off my feet. >> you flew off your feet? >> yes. >> you landed on your back? >> landed on my elbow. >> how loud was it? >> very loud. >> that was the mantha helped into the ambulance. we're going to get more on the conditions of those who were injured. let's go to new york and cnn correspondent cristina alesci outside of bellevue hospital. let's get us up to date on how many were taken to bellevue hospital and those who were released. i understand you spoke to
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someone who was injured? >> reporter: that's right. my colleague spoke to someone who was injured. of the 29 injured, 24 were tweeted at area hospitals. some have been released and only one so far. you guys mentioned to put context around it, 23rd street and 6th avenue i've walked by many, many, many times. it's an area with a lot of residences, stores, it will be perfectly reasonable if you say for the people to be in the street. if you were anywhere near the explosion it's very likely that you would have been hurt in some way, shape or form. in fact, one of the people my colleague spoke to was driving a car nearby and he lost control of the vehicle as a result of the explosion. take a listen.
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so we'll have that sound for you later on, but i'm standing in front of bellevue hospital right now, and this is a level one trauma center in the city. you know, i'm from new york, and this is where people come who are taken in ambulances when there is any major event in mid town, in lower manhattan. that's where chelsea is. this would be the case where the most serious cases would be. we have no information about whether or not the one person seriously injured is here. we're certainly waiting on the information. and we do -- i'm just getting word, we do have that sound for you of the victim who was in the car. >> driving the car and next thing you know i felt an explosion and the car just tilted over halfway and came back down. and what happened was i just blacked out. next thing you know i'm in an
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ambulance. you know, a little traumatized. just thought about i was close to not actually seeing my son again. that was the scariest part of the night. >> what kind of injuris do you have? you're on crutches, i see. >> strained knee and i have to go back and see how bad it is. >> what about your car? was it severely damaged? >> just the whole left side. glass broke out and everything. >> what about you? i see you're pregnant. >> the baby is fine. mild concussion i have. >> reporter: so thankfully those two victims are seemingly okay. victor, christi, i'll have more for you in a few hours as new developments come back. back to you. >> we're hoping to hear more in the next couple of hours.
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right now investigators in new york are trying to figure out more about this massive explosion that ripped through the chelsea neighborhood. you see the video there. we understand this can be upsetting. the moment of the blast there. the glass shattered on the door
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and window. dozens of people injured. >> yeah. you see that. there they go as they're walking past, some of then running past. these are some of the people who are injured as well. they are bloody. we know that police and sniffer dogs are searching that area after the bomb went off next to a dumpster. a second device, a pressure cooker, was removed. mayor bill de blasio saying the act was intentional. they're not ready to connect it to terrorists. >> we're going to get more from our reporters in new york and discuss it with our analysts. we want to get into this diplomatic face-off between the united states and russia as we approach the united nations general assembly. the u.s. is expressing regret over an airstrike that hit 83
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syrians. russia called an emergency meeting of the security council. >> that caused tensions to flair between samantha power and russian counter part. listen. >> even by russia's standards tonight's stunt, a stunt replete with moralism and grandstanding is uniquely cynical and hypocritical. >> it is quite significant and, frankly, significant that the united states chose to conduct this airstrike. in all my years of international life, i've never seen -- which is over 40 years, i've never seen such an extra ordinary display of what we've yesterdayed. aides have spoken about it.
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two convoys carrying wheat flower and food rations for 185,000 people have been waiting at the border since last tuesday. they're trying to get permission to travel inside syria. for more on that, the russian response to what's happening, we want to go to matthew chance live from moscow. we were getting to this the last hour. russia is blaming the u.s. for not coordinating with them on the u.s. air strike. si they didn't give a precise location. do we know if that's normal protocol and what is russia saying about that this morning? >> reporter: well, what's normal protocol is that whenever the united states has an attack, it
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carries out the attacks in syria. it coordinates that with the russians because they're there in force and they could take out very good boomers. >> they don't want to strike any forces. and that's exactly what happened this time. the attacks they believed were forces of isis, the syrian army, close ally of russia. at least 62 people were struck, soldiers of the syrian army and at least 100 injured. we've heard the death toll can be higher than that. that's led to absolute fury on the part of the russians. they've accused the white house of defending isis.
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that allowed isis to take all of the territory and have repelled the militants by the further use of russian air power to repel isis. so it was a setback and that's why the allegations come about. >> matthew chance, appreciate the update so much. thank you. and in just a moment we'll get you the very latest as investigators examine the suspicious device, pressure cooker with wires connected to it after the explosion late saturday in chelsea. people still in hospitals. one with serious puncture wounds. the very latest in just a moment. ♪ ♪ ♪
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in fact, police saying that they have increased security. mayor bill de blasio calling this, quote, an intentional act but staying away from the term terrorism saying they just have not made that connection as of yet. but investigators are still on the scene as they continue to comb through the evidence at both of the scenes. >> jessica snyder is still at the scene. we can see it's still cordoned off and the sun is coming up. we expect it will be that way for some time as they continue to investigate. what's the latest on the investigation? >> reporter: the enormity of the scene is incredible. the cross streets are shut off for about a 20 block area while this investigation goes on. we're going into like the ninth hour of this investigation. the explosion happened just down the street here. we're on 23rd street. the explosion happening near the intersection of sixth avenue.
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now throughout the past few hours we've seen investigation teams here. we've also seen teams of police officers. they're scouring this area with their flashlights while it's dark now, and we've seen canine teams. they're making sure this area is safe. the one thing they're looking at is they do have surveillance video from near the scene of that explosion and we're told there is one person of interest on that video. police are looking to identify them, potentially locate them to question them. in addition, nypd, they're imploring people over twitter. they're taking to twitter to ask people who may have seen something, who may have information to give them information so they can investigate what happened and how it happened. >> jessica snyder, thank you so much for the update. both donald trump and hillary clinton reacting to the explosion. trump was quick to call it a bomb speaking out at a rally nearly two hours before new york officials publicly confirmed any
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of the details. he said it's time for the u.s. to get smart, get tough and find out of course exactly what happened. >> i must tell you that just before i got off the plane a bomb went off in new york and nobody knows exactly what's going on but, boy, we are living in a time, we better get very tough, folks. we better get very, very tough. >> hillary clinton spoke to reporters hours later on her plane and also called the explosion a bombing. she said she had spoken with new york city officials but wanted to wait for more facts before making any conclusions. >> well, i think it's important to know the facts about any incident like this, that's why it's critical to support the first responders, the investigators who are looking into it trying to determine what did happen. i think it's always wiser to
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wait until you have information before making conclusions because we are just in the beginning stages of trying to determine what happened. >> we also have confirmation from the white house that president obama has also been briefed on the explosion. standing by for an initial statement. >> as jessica mentioned, we're nine, ten hours into this investigation and we have to wonder how much progress police and analysts are able to make at this point, and the timing of it seems to be interesting as well. i mean, a week ago we were sitting here talking about the anniversary of 9/11, the 15th anniversary. tomorrow on monday the u.n. general assembly is set to get started, get kicked off again. a lot of people wondering about the timing of this. we'll have more analysis after the quick break. at your desk? to be now, with one talk from verizon... hi, pete. i'm glad you called.
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this morning right now in fact police are hunting for answers as to what caused that explosion that injured dozens of people in new york city's busy chelsea neighborhood. we have video here the moment of the blast. there it is. you see the glass shatter there on the window and the door. we know the debris, the glass and metal went flying everywhere. >> that's what caused the majority of injuries according to authorities in new york. there was a second device. it was a pressure cooker. here it is. it had wires coming out of it, duct tape. it had been removed from the area. it is with authorities as they're trying to analyze it now. new york mayor bill de blasio
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saying the explosion itself, quote, was an intentional act but there's no specific connection to an earlier incident in new jersey where there was an explosion that went off in a garbage can on the route of a marine corps charity run and saying that there's no connection at this point as it is, what, nine, ten hours into this investigation, that no connection he says to terrorism specifically. >> let's try to get a better understanding of the investigation. bring in cnn law enforcement analyst matthew forest. he's a retired atf agent in charge. good morning. >> good morning, victor. >> we understand the suspicious device, pressure cooker device, was taken to the gun range in the bronx by the nypd to deal with that. if that's detonated, how much after the detonation of the crucial evidence can still be harvested? >> victor, there's a lot of evidence that can be gathered if it's detonated or dismantled.
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the pressure cooker had to be purchased somewhere. the explosives had to be purchased from somewhere. if there was shrapnel, others put into the device, wires, silicone. there is a lot of information of who did this, how it happened. >> let me lean on your knowledge here as we come upon the groups coming together. it's not connected to terrorism but an intentional act. will there be some impact as the world leaders come in? >> as a security practitioner, we have to investigate everything. a very big event happening in new york. the state department, the secret service, fbi and others gathering enough information to
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manage this thing and people get into new york and out of new york in a safe manner. >> we know there are federal resources there on the scene. matt that yrough, thank you so . we'll continue this next hour. president obama making a final appearance at the congressional black caucus dinner as commander in chief. he attacks donald trump. he warns voters, you need to turn out and vote. this was a very passionate speech. we'll listen to more of it on the other side of the break.
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it is a busy morning in new york as we're sitting here talking to you, investigators
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are analyzing additional video footage from the scope of a blast there in the city trying to figure out if a person seen in that said video could be connected to the explosion that happened in the chelsea neighborhood. now i want to show you another piece of video here. this is the moment of that blast. this video coming to us from the fitness center in chelsea. you can see the debris, some of the glass that has shattered. you're going to see there as people are outside and they're starting to run from that area. we want to warn you here as we go to the next video because it can be a bit disturbing. i don't want you caught off guard. >> you see these people here bloodied and they couldn't get out of the way in time. pieces of metal lodged into their skin, rushed to hospitals. police are trying to make sure there are no other devices in the area. the mayor bill de blasio says
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this is not terrorism. he says this is an intentional act. we'll get more on that as it comes in and get straight to you. let's get to the white house confirming that president obama received a briefing about the explosion and the investigation. if we get a statement from the white house, some thoughts from the president, we'll bring that as well. before that briefing president obama spoke at the congressional black caucus gala. he gave a very passionate 1350e67 abospeech about the upcoming election and what people need to do to get his choice, hillary clinton, to the white house. jeff zeleny has the story. >> reporter: president obama carrying a rallying speech in some of the strongest speech yet. he delivered a blistering attack against donald trump and said it would be a personal insult to his legacy if donald trump was elected. >> our name may not be on the
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ballot but our progress is on the ballot. tolerance is on the ballot. democracy is on the ballot. after we have achieved historic turnout in 2008 and 2012 especially in the african-american community, i will consider it a personal insult, an insult to my legacy, if this community lets down its guard and fails to activate itself in this election. you want to give me a good sendoff, go vote! >> the president has often criticized donald trump but not in these strong terms. he's said trump is simply wrong about the country. he said black voters need to rally to hillary clinton's side. for her part hillary clinton also on stage at that congressional black caucus foundation dinner. she came to the president's aid talking about his birth certificate. >> even when hateful nonsense is
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thrown their way, barack, michelle, their two beautiful daughters have represented our country with glass, grace and integrity. mr. president, not only do we know you are an american, you're a great american! >> reporter: president obama and hillary clinton talked backstage. there's no question that he is going to be one of the biggest components in her final days. he has made that clear and he is going to go across the country campaigning for the month of october. jeff zeleny, washington. let's get some details here and bring in eugene. hopefully we'll be back to your audio by the time i get out my question. the question is piggybacked about the strong terms president
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obama used to attack donald trump. what did he say? >> well, he made it very clear that donald trump's words suggest that hillary clinton would be the best candidate for black voters and other communities that feel under represented. he's made it very clear that his legacy that he hopes to pass on through this next administration is one that focuses on the benefits of diversity and different people groups in this country. he's not confident that donald trump would support that. >> the polls show that hillary clinton has a 70, 80% advantage when it comes to black voters. why is the president so concerned that black voters will not show up in november? >> in the primary election we saw there was quite some disagreement among black voters who would be the best candidate. we saw bernie sanders have quite a bit of support and black millennials have been vocal
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about some of hillary clinton's policies. president obama made it very clear this is something black americans cannot risk, being unsupportive this next ee zblle. >> eugene scott, thank you so much. we'll continue this next hour. do stay with us. we're going to continue our breaking news coverage of that blast that happened overnight in new york. sent 29 people to the hospital and we do know that police are saying now there is increased security across all five boroughs in new york. we'll have the very latest for you in a moment. stay close.
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>> we're always so grateful to have you unfold with us in the morning. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. new york is waking up after a massive blast rocked the chelsea area. investigators analyzing the video footage that shows the suspect behind the explosion. we have new video. we're trying to turn that around. here's what we have the moment of the blast. the window, the door there, blast shattering as the force blew many of the windows out sending debris flying in all directions. >> and you can see the people who are running outside there once that blast happened in all different directions there. officials say this bomb went off in or near a dumpster. there is the dumpster or what's left of it. there was also a second device which looked like a pressure cooker. we have a picture of that here with you as well. there is wiring connected to it with duct tape around it. that device is b


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