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caught on camera, again, an unarmed black man with his hands in the air shot to death by a police officer. this is cnn tonight, i'm don lemon. what do the videos tell us about the death of 40-year-old terrence crutcher? in tulsa? and what does this say about american just sn american justice? hillary clinton weighs? >> this horrible shooting again, how many times do we have to see this in our country? plus exactly what donald trump doesn't need with just six days to go still he faces hillary clinton. chris christie in hot water tonight, prosecutors insisting the governor knew all about the bridgegate scandal that shut down the george washington bridge. and, the latest on the bombing that injured 31 people in new
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york. new charges against the alleged bomber. we're going to begin this broadcast tonight with some breaking news inside charlotte, north carolina. we have some pictures. there you go, showing a protest at -- i don't want to call it a standoff with police, but protesters spreading after an officer today shot and killed an african-american man who police say was armed. again, they shot and killed an african-american man who police say was armed. the officer in the shooting video also black. again, these are live picturing come in from charlotte, north carolina, wsoc. it's a little bit dark, but you can see officers in a line there with a bus behind them and you see the protesters. there's large presence of police officers and a number of people on the scene. police were searching for a suspect with an outstanding warrant, when another man, the victim, got out of the vehicle with a firearm. they say opposing an eminent deadly threat. they then shot the unidentified
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man. detectives say they recovered the firearm that victim was holding at the scene, an officer has reportedly been injured in the protests tonight. again, so a man pronounced dead at the hospital, police went to serve a warrant, someone else, they had an altercation in a car. they deemed him as threatening. he was carrying a weapon, according to police. they shot him and he ended up dead. you're looking at pictures of the protests. it's hard to see because it's dark there, but those are protesters on the scene and police officers there all lined up, and police officers trays to gain control. we're going to continue to monitor that situation, but i want to bring in bakari sellers, former member of the house of representatives, he joins us by phone. watching these tense images in the streets, what do you know with this? >> i think that you know we are urging everybody to stay as calm as possible, but people are tired, you know, we just saw the images of terrance crutcher in
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tulsa, oklahoma and now you have this incident and family members and neighbors say this disabled individual who was shot and killed tonight -- or this afternoon, he was actually carrying a book, and so we'll have to see what the incident really was and we'll have to see what the facts are, but, again, you have another incident that you know, resulted in an african-american male who was killed, and so people are really anxious, people are worried, people are scared and it's another tragicic dent incident country and we have the escalation of force going on, and riot gear, and teargas and all of those things so i mean, you just pray for peoples' safety and hope we can figure out what's going on and make sure this doesn't happen again. bikerri, thank you very much. we'll get back to you if we need more information. we're working the story that's happening in charlotte, in north carolina. again, police are saying that they were -- they went to serve
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a warrant on the scene and came in contact with another person on the scene. you can see these are -- this appears to be some sort of gas, and if it's teargas or two, that is being thrown -- not sure by who. it's dark. i can't tell. you're seeing these pictures. i don't know if this is being used by police officers to contain the crowd or if this is being thrown at police officers. and again, that was behind -- appeared to be behind the police line. and again this is all coming to us from charlotte, north carolina, and as you can see, 11:04 eastern time, this is happening in a very volatile time with police officers in protest, because it's spreading as we're watching in charlotte, after police shot an african-american man who police say was armed. police say they were searching
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for a suspect with an outstanding warrant -- this is the same situation here. searching for a suspect with an outstanding warrant. another man, the victim, got out of the vehicle with a firearm. they say opposing an eminent deadly threat again. bakari just said that man here, he says, was carrying a book, that he was disabled but police officers aren't -- at least the -- what we've gotten from police are not saying that, but again we're watching this very tense situation. we're going to keep an eye on it for you and they will watch it in the control room and we'll get back to you when we get back to the situation in north carolina. let's turn to the shooting death of terrance crutcher. it's out of tulsa, oklahoma. the shooting death by police was caught on camera and it's sparking a heated debate drooac the country and federal, local and state authorities are investigating. here's cnn's ana cabrera. >> reporter: police video shows the moments before 40-year-old
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terrance crutcher is shot and killed by a tulsa police officer from this dashcam video and a police chopper. >> he's got his hands up there for her now. >> reporter: you can see crutcher with his hands up. tulsa police officer betty shelby follows with her gun drawn as crutcher walks past his suv that's stopped in the middle of the road. >> this guy is still walking and following commands. >> reporter: three other officers respond standing between crutcher and the dashcam video, but in the helicopter video, it appears crutcher drops one of his hands when he gets to the vehicle. >> a taser i think. >> reporter: you don't see what crutcher is doing when he's shot, the helicopter circling around, crutcher falls to the ground. >> shots fired. >> reporter: shot and tazed. >> i'm going to tell you now, there was no gun on the suspect or in the suspect's vehicle. >> reporter: crutcher was unarmed but officer shelby's
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attorney scott wood says she doesn't know that, and wood says crutcher ignored multiple commands. >> no one would walk away from a police officer whose got a gun turned on them and ignored commands. >> reporter: did him being a bg black man playing a role in her perceived dangerer? . >> no, him being a large man perceived a role in her being in danger. she's worked in this part of town for quite sometime, and you knows are just the week before, she was at an all-black high school home coming football game. she's not afraid of black people. >> reporter: shelby is now on paid administrative leave. video of the incident appears to show had the driver's window is closed. shelby's husband was the photographer inside the police helicopter. although woods says it's not his voice heard here.
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>> that looks like a bad dude, too. >> that big, bad, dude was my twin brother. that big, bad dude was a father. that big, bad dude was a son. that big, bad dude was enrolled at tulsa community college. just wanting to make us proud. >> reporter: crutcher's family and the community are calling for criminal charges against officer shelby. police chief chuck jordan vowing to have a thorough and transparent investigation. >> we will achieve justice, period. >> reporter: outrage in this community is growing tonight. you can see protestors here gathered outside the police station calling for the arrest of officer shelby. there are two on-going investigations right now. there's the criminal investigation that is part of the local police department's investigation into whether or not there was justified use of force in this case.
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there's also the civil rights probe that was opened by the department of justice following the release of the video. now, we asked did officer shelby have a taser? the answer is yes. but it was not deployed, instead, she fired her gun, which was already drawn. don? >> thank you very much for that, ana, i appreciate it. lots to discuss now. attorney monique presley is here, of the st. louis police officer's association, the author of "war on police, and michael nutter, a cnn political commentator, and former mayor. now we have what's happening in tulsa. let's talk about tulsa as we keep an eye on north carolina. monique to you. officer shelby's attorney said she believed terrance crutcher posed an immediate threat to her and the other officers. as you look at that as a trained attorney, does that support is that. >> there's nothing i've seen so far that supports that.
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when an african-american male is shot, unarmed, we get these tag words, we get these automatic responses either from the attorney for a particular police officer, or from the police department saying that there was some sort of eminent threat that police officer using their judgment, using their subjective decision-making, believed that they were in eminent danger and took a shot, but you can't see anything here to support that and even more than that, there were other officers on the ground with officer shelby and they did not sense the same threat. they did not see anything that necessitated them using lethal, deadly force. so, no, there's nothing from what we can see so far that would justify the death of this man. >> all right, jeff, to you next. what do you think of the video? >> don, you know with all these days, the first words out of my mouth on this show i've been over a dozen times are, let's wait for all the information before we reach some judgment.
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and i think that what we know so far is that this gentleman did not have his hands up when -- when the officer shot him. we know that he was very likely under the influence of a controlled substance. the 911 caller said he appeared to be under a controlled substance influence. >> with all do respect we won't know that -- >> thank you so much. >> we're fine to rushing to judgment on the police officer but we don't want to rush to judgment on the suspect. but they did find -- >> based on what? >> they did find pcp in his car. >> based on what? >> the fact there's pcp in his car. >> she doesnidn't know that pi-? >> based on what? >> based on the truth. >> there's no evidence -- that's a man walking down the street with his hands up. that's a big black man so now it's bbm, big black man somehow,
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someone is afraid. >> a man not following orders. >> you have four -- let me finish. i let you finish. >> it's. i don't think that's true, but -- >> he had his hands up numerous times. he had no weapon. four police officers on the scene, officer betsy had a taser. the handgun should not be the first weapon of choice. never turned to her, never presented a threat that. is the threshold. >> you're wrong -- >> let me be very, very clear. >> hold on, monique and mayor. >> i've lost eight police officers killed in the line of duty, five by gunfire. the threshold is does the person present an eminent threat to the officer presenting a threat to themselves or some other person? that mr. crutcher did not present that kind of threat and there were a number of things that all four officers could
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have done to deal with whatever they thought was going on. >> okay. please -- >> she didn't know anything about what was in the car. he didn't do anything. he was walking down the street with his hands up. >> mayor -- all right. let's let jeff respond, please. >> easy for you to say in an air-conditioned studio. >> i've seen the video. you weren't there, either. don't play me like that. >> go ahead, jeff. >> so when can the officer deploy their weapon? do they have to be looking down the barrel of the gun to make the shot at first? >> when there's an eminent threat to the officer and you know that. that is the standard. >> right, and there's -- >> what were the results? what did he do? >> guys -- >> you guys are going back and forth and nothing is getting accomplished. >> he won't show his hands. >> jeff, just to stop the back and forth and the over talking, why not use a taser instead of deadly force? >> well, they -- there were
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tasers out, don, they apparently tazed the guy -- or taechted ato taze the guy. there's no evidence when you look at the video that there was actually a shock delivered. as i've talked on network before. >> she didn't taze him and there was a taser. >> come on mayor. sometimes you miss with the bashes on the taser, and they don't catch clothes or skin. the taser was deployed whether it effectively delivered a charge or not -- >> by another officer. >> -- is unknown. >> right. the taser was discharged and just to be clear, the guy has a name. it's mr. terrance crutcher, and just to respect the family -- >> right. >> -- for their loss here, i would like to get a chance to say we're all grieving with them, all of us with a conscien conscious, who can smell the blood in the streets as we're having this conversation, it was important to note even if he was
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disobeying a command, even if he was on pcp, let's just get rid of everything that could possibly come out, this video still does not show that it was justified, that it was necessary for this officer to shoot. we are dealing with implicit biases because of color and because of size, and let's also be clear if this was a large man who wasn't black, we wouldn't be dealing with the size bite. >> please listen. >> it wouldn't be news, monique. >> i've got to take a break. we're going to continue on and be right back. ♪ ♪ooooks like those braids aren't easy to tie. ♪ nope. ♪ a "how do i retire at 50" side. ♪ hang in there, dan. ♪ "sure, you can keep the kitty" side. ♪ ♪ that's why there's nationwide, ♪ ♪ helping to grow and protect your many sides. ♪ ♪ nationwide is on your side.
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we're covering two-stories, live out of charlotte, north carolina, this is protests of a police shooting of a black man earlier. the officer was black, as well. they were serving a warrant on someone, came across the man who was not the man they were serving on warrant on in a car and they thought he posed a car, ended up shooting him. he died at the hospital and people are out on the streets. that line that you see on the right-hand side of your screen, that's police officers, and on the left, those are protest ares and the police officers trying to gain some control there. we're going to continue to watch that, but we're also going to talk about this other shooting out of tulsa, oklahoma, police shooting of an unarmed black man, terrance crutcher, and monique presley, michael nutter, and i want everyone to be able to make their point, but when
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you-all are talking, people at home can't hear and you we don't get anything accomplished. i promise -- >> sorry. >> -- i will let all of you speak if you will allow each other the court see to make your points. hillary clinton spoke about this on the steve harvey radio show today about imaccomplicity bias. >> how many times do we have to see this in youour country, in tulsa, with his hands in the air, this is just unbearable, and it needs to be intolerable, so maybe i can, by speaking directly to white people, say look, this is not who we are, we've got to do everything possible to himprove policing, o go at imaccomplicity bias. there are good, honorable, cool-headed police officers. we've seen them in action in new york over the last 48 hours because of the terrorist attacks. we can do better.
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>> okay. monique mentioned implicit bias. does she have a point about implicit bias? >> hillary clinton is making the same mistake president obama has and is rushing to judgment in the case of the officer. i think the officer is proven innocent until proven guilty. we're all guilty of implicit bias. they think they know someone about other people because of the color of their skin and it's wrong and it's a big ugly part of our society. the question is whether these police officers in charlotte and tulsa acted on that implicit bias or if it they were acting on something else. >> mayor? same question. >> i don't know what they were acting on, but don, let's know about what happened -- what has happened over the last two, three days. mr. crutcher is killed, has no weapon, has his hands up, his car is broken down, and he's
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shot dead on the highway. then there's guy who we specnt the whole weekend looking for, a terrorist, 29 injured people in new york, a shootout in new jersey. that guy somehow survives. black guy on a highway, no weapon, just dead. a guy who clearly hurt people intentionally, terrorist, but he was on a gurney that everyone saw on cnn multiple times, and he some hour survives. >> monique? >> that's a problem. >> i -- i don' disagree with jeff's point that we also have implicit biases, but what is important not to miss is that when the police are charged with protecting and serving us, and they are given a state and government sanctioned weapon
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that cocaian be used to kill an innocent unarmed man in the street, there's higher level of responsibility and higher standard of care and they're not allowed to just have the same biases that everyone else has. they have to have the training and have to be waited out, frankly to ensure things like this don't happen, whether the bias is race, or social studies i don't economic status, or whether it's size, or whether it's, i was scared of that person with red hair one day and now they're coming at me. there's difference between an officer being afraid, which every officer is when they're working, and an officer being in imminent danger. >> i think this goes to what we're talking about -- >> the other options -- >> hold on, mayor. there's person who is watch from a helicopter who makes this statement about this being a scary dude, listen to this. >> he's got his hands up there for her now.
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this guy's still walking. and isn't following commands. >> not for taser, i think.this . and isn't following commands. >> not for taser, i think. >> i got a feeling that's about to happen. >> that looks like a bad dude, too, to be on something. >> which way are they face something. >> police one, are facing westbound. i think he may have just been taser tasered. >> shots fired. >> ooh. >> we have shots fired, one suspect down. we need imbalance heambulance h >> how would someone be able to tell from the air that was a bad dude. >> listen to the audio closely, don. he said he's got his hands up now, so that implies that when they first got there, when they're watching from the sky initially, he doesn't have his hands in the air.
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they say this looks like a bad dude, i think he's on something. i think it's not his size or his skin color, it's the fact he appears even from a helicopter in the sky to be under the influence of something. >> okay. >> is why they're saying he's a bad dude. >> let the mayor get in. >> like 5,000 feet in the air how do you know he's a quote/unquote bad dude? what are you talking about? >> if you look at the video from all the angles. >> let me finish. i didn't say anything across you. >> go ahead. >> if you look at the video from the ground and the air, numerous times, you see mr. crutcher with his hands in the air. what does it mean he's a bad dude? i mean, a, that's bias right there, but in -- when all is said and done, the officer had another option. she was actually carrying a taser herself. the fact that one officer shot his taser and maybe it had an effect or didn't have an effect, does not mean that the next
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thing you should do is use your firearm. this is the whole issue here in policing and i've lost police officers, i've been at their hospital when is they've died and grave sightes. it's about training and the mind-set and to use everything that you can before you have to use your firearm. the officer should have used her taser before going to the firearm. >> we could go on -- >> you can't deny that. >> and you're just wrong, mayor. >> we'll continue talking about this but unfortunately we're out of time. we'll continue following this story out of tulsa, oklahoma. thank you. i don't know if we are still have the live pictures out of charlotte, there's some protests, police are out. i don't want to call it a standoff, but police are trying to gain control over protesters
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for a shooting that happened there today involving a police officer. i'm sorry? >> the man who was shot has been identified -- keith lemont scott, that's the man identified as being the victim of the shooting today in charlotte, north carolina, and his family has been notified. the producers are telling me in my ear as i'm talking and we'll continue to watch these pictures. keith lemont scott, earlier today, the pictures from north carolina, and i'm also being told his family has been notified. we'll be right back. and can you explain to me why
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chris christie is part of donald trump's inner circle and speaks on donald trump's behalf. christie ending his own campaign before the gop nomination, but could he become a liability now cnn bridge gate is underway. don mattingly has a story for us tonight. >> reporter: as far as chris christie has fallen politically, there has always been one saving
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great. >> 211 folly traffic is a nightmare. >> reporter: no evidence existed to tie it to the deliberate september 2013 closure of lanes on the george washington bridge. until now, prosecutors say. >> i've been investigated by three different entities, of two them led bipartisan democrats who have all found that i had knowledge and no involvement. >> reporter: during opening statements involving top officials, prosecutors told jurors they would prove christie was aware of their activities as the closures were happening. for christie, it's the scandal that helped turn a leading presidential contender into an early primary dropout. >> it's both the magic and the mystery of politics, that you never quite know when which is going to happen even when you think you do. >> even as he maintained from the very beginning he had no knowledge of the alleged political retribution, carried
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out by his aides. let me tell you, i was blind sided yesterday morning. >> that was the first time i knew about this, the first time i had seen any of the documents that were revealed yesterday. >> but questions about whether that's actually the case have long simmered, charges against his allies have moved through the court, including the revelation uncovered in court documents in august, of a december 2013 text from a campaign aid saying christie quote flat out lied about what he knew, yet even as his own presidential campaign fizzled and the trial loomed, christie's role with the man he endorsed, donald trump, continued to grow. >> there is no one who is better prepared to provide america with the strong leadership that it needs. >> but even there, the scandal known as bridgegate, helped kofcost christy wh chri christie, say what he desperately wanted, donald trump's vice president.
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>> how much was deflategate a factor in you not being dominated vice president? >> i'm sure it played a factor. >> now the question becomes should donald trump win in november? does this also cost chris christie his opportunity to be in trump's cabinet? trump advisors make very clear, donald trump is very loyal to chris christie. chris christie is firmly entr h entrenched inside the circle of donald trump, even with this trial that's supposed to being on on, in the next few weeks, the types of senate democrats you would need to confirm someone say for attorney general in the next administration. they probably won't be so loyal or understanding. don? >> all right, phil, thank you very much. so, honesty and truth, that's what we're talking about. when we come right back, the
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and you won't have to guess when we'll turn up. because after all... we should fit into your life. [ laughing ] not the other way around. [ clock ticking ] chris christie proving his loyalty to donald trump again insisting to my cnn colleague, that donald trump did not drag out the birther issue for years, a claim that is clearly not true. >> donald trump did not accept when barack obama released his birth certificate in 2011, he kept up this whole birther thing until friday, that's five years. we only have a little bit of time left so i want to ask you. >> that's just not true that he kept it up for five years, it's just simply not true. >> it is true. >> jake t wasn't like -- it
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wasn't like he was talking about it on a regular basis until then and when the issue was raised he made very clear the other day what his position is. >> okay, so i want to bring in our political commentator, the author of "a woman in charge," and our cnn executive director, and the author of rightful t heritage, franklin roosevelt. who cares about truth and facts? i want to talk about the honesty factor in this election. just one example, you heard chris christie. he's lying about trump and the birther issue. let's talk about the basics in this most dishone evaluast elec cycle ever. >> i guess so. that was carl bernstein, but not me, but go ahead. >> there are moments i thought
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about, this you know, you could think of richard nixon with watergate and all of those people arrested with the felons with the watergate lies. it's just lie, after lie, meanness after meanness and twitter and the new media is allowing us every day to be able to fact check very quickly and we're finding seas of misinformation often from hillary clinton, too. >> i want to play the moment when trump reversed himself -- reversed course and of course it was only after trump got to p promote with free media did he make this statement? >> lirk ahillary clinton and he campaign of 2008, started the birther controversy. i finished it. i finished it, you know what i mean. president barack obama was born in the united states, period.
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now we all want to get back to making america strong and great again. >> so two things here, carl. we know hillary clinton did not start the birther controversy and we know donald trump different finish it. these are your wards. y you called him a pathological liar a liar. >> i'd like to ask doug, we've never gotten a presidential aspea aspirant, and who has lied as donald trump. he's a fab list, meaning some know who invents a tale, a story that is not true, and it's true of the narrative of his own life he's done this, he's someone who makes up the -- these tales as he goes along that have nothing to do with real existing fact. >> have we had that -- >> he is a liar. >> you said he's a what? >> he is a liar consistently,
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but he's not concerned with truth. you can talk about hillary clinton. richard nixon, nothing compared to what donald trump does daily. >> hold your horses, mark. he asked you a question. have we seen anything like this? he said he's a fabulist and a liar. >> joe mccarthy used to do that and donald trump liked it. >> i said a presidential aspirant. >> i totally agree with you, carl. the question's why does donald trump do it? he's kind of a salesman, everybody telling everybody, the house is the best, the foundation is the best, and the biggest, and he may not realize when you call him pathological he's often lying because he's constantly somie selling in thet and with this modern culture we're able to bust him left and right. it doesn't matter. >> let's add to another one, last night, twice, he reepeated
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this false claim he opposed the war, even though cnn fact-checksed, there's no evidence to sport he hupport he opposition to the war. what is going on there, and the issue is, the media feels like there has to be a faulse equivalency, and they have to say, where did hillary clinton tell a lie, when not necessarily, she told a lie on that day. >> a couple things. we're in the age right now where the information throw is like a fire hose. it's no longer a little garden hose of information coming out. you have candidates who are always on, whether it is us with cameras, whether it is reporters, whether it's some be with an iphone, whatever it may be. add to that mix, donald trump who is a salesman, who loves the television, loves to make the sale, and it really has become the situation right now where he is not being hurt by the lies he is telling. the polls are showing us that
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regardless of how many times we tell people over and over again that he is fabricating something, it has not hurt him at the polls and that only fuels his ability to continue to do something. >> okay but not only him, surrogates do the same thing and the media gets called bias for just pointing out -- just doing their jobs, which is just -- which is so odd to me in this particular election. and let me play this, let me put this up for you. this is a cnn orc poll, voltete 50% say donald trump is honest, compared to 35% hillary clinton is. why is that, mark? >> that's is because sbecause s suffering from the bill clinton presidency, and monica lekwinsk. those numbers are close are than what they are at 50 and 35, and we've seen the numbers change. but the fact is, too, that hillary clinton really is a person who has hubris.
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we know that. colin powell said that and she's of the mind-set do as i say, not as i do, and the voters who are not supporting her, these white, working-class voters don't necessarily appreciate that. >> all right, quickly, i have to go to break. >> let's look at donald trump on his taxes. he can't release his tax returns because he's being audited. >> that's not true. >> i think that's a lie. >> yeah. >> because just tell us, donald, have you ever paid any taxes in the last ten years? we would be very surprised, i think, to find he's paid any taxes. >> i said last word, but i've got to ask you this, is it our fault that people don't believe even when we point it out? >> no. >> i try to do as good a job i can every single night in real time. >> the fact of the matter we can only do so much and it's up to the voters. >> thank you, gentlemen. when we come back, donald trump repeating his support for profiling in the wake of this weekend's bombings in new york and new jersey but what kind of
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of the republican muslim coalition. thank you so much for joining us. start with you first. donald trump says the screening process is missing dangerous terrorisms. rahami got through screening does donald trump have a point? >> as muslim this attack is despicable. nobody wants to stop attacks like this more than us because we're tarted. we denounce this. donald trump lies about something else, says muslims not working with law enforcement and turning people in. this man's father turned his son into fbi just like shooter in orlando. >> what about the point by secondary screening? >> he was here for years. talking about right now. fbi needs more resources.
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tipping off fbi, can't blame them. but need resources when someone is tipped off to continue following them. could have been prevented with more resources. >> he went and visited countries and came back and donald trump says secondary skreeng was missed and needs to be better. does he have a point? >> everybody on the fbi list needs to be vetted and watched. but at the same time donald trump wants to be a president for everybody, including muslims. irrespective of religions need to be at table. trump is coming across strong against terrorism. which is a good thing. we all want a safe secure america and having a president who understands national security and has muslims in cabinet or in administration will send the right message. >> someone who understands
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national security? >> i think trump understands it. i think he understands the basis of terrorism and i think he has the right intentions, good intentions in his heart. and i hope that he will continue his strong leadership. america doesn't need to weaken. if somebody is perverting the religion of islam, need to be held accountable. he's all for peace-loving muslims around the world. has been talking even today, meeting with president of egypt assuring he wants to support peace-loving muslims and we all want to join together in fight against terrorism. >> yesterday he said he supported profiling based on ethnicity. let's listen. >> you go to israel, should study. done a phenomenal job with this. they profile. not happy about it but do it. people aren't complaining with about.
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we have to profile. honestly whatever it is. not using term muslim but saying we have to profile. >> as muslim who supports donald trump do you think profiling is a solution? >> definitely not but at the same time religious profiling has to be done with caution. has to be checks and balances and unless muslims involved in the debate, it's open game and can target anybody that they want. issue with the whole administration just not even calling it out as islamic terrorism is that we need to support people who are strongly working against it. and the voices are being silent so what we get to hear is direct profiling and targeting of muslims which is not the right approach. we need muslims within a trump administration to counter such narratives. >> first of all with all due respect i think donald trump is clueless about national security. his rhetoric is what isis wants to hear.
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donald trump says islam hates us and isis says the west hatz usz. has helped them recruit. i'm glad we agree with the idea that profiling is wrong. it's unconstitutional. calling for profiling of 2 million african-americans, biggest portion of our community. going to call for profiling. >> and has miz lums with him. >> invitates the constitution and our values. real leader unites americans. person who is panicky, in. >> i think muslim americans will be present in cleveland with donald trump. we need to step up efforts and have much more in common with the trump administration. clinton is providing weak
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in new york and new jersey, including a weapons of mass destruction charge and getting more pieces of puzzle. including how the suspect gathered components of the bomb. suspect still in hospital in newark after the shootout with the police. getting new reports with who he is and where he traveled and turbulent home life. new details? >> reporter: anderson some remarkable details in the federal kpant. for one he bought many of the components on ebay, shipping to address in new jersey but as recently as two days before the attack he was testing out explosive dwiesz, what looked like cylindrical device, filming on cell phone and another one in the back yard seen in the frame of cell phone video


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