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overnight, one of trump's accusers spoke out in an interview adding new details to her claims. this was an interview with anderson cooper. she said it was trump's claims about sexual misconduct to anderson in the second debate in
st. louis that inspired her to first go public to "the new york times." >> when you specifically asked trump had he ever groped a woman or i forget how you phrased it and he said no. i literally wanted to throw something at the tv or punch my hand in the tv. that was sunday night and monday morning i found myself writing an e-mail. a letter to the editor to "the times." >> watch more from his interview later. first, donald trump's remarkable defense against the claims and what he considers the conspiracy to defeat him. in florida and ohio, he blasted accusers and accusations that he groped and kissed women. he called it pure fiction.
he promised to produce evidence that the claims were false, though he did not do so yesterday. cnn's sara murray has the latest. >> reporter: with less than
four weeks until election day, donald trump spent yesterday denying allegations from multiple women from different parts of the country who say they were sexually assaulted by donald trump. trump agitated by the accusations and insisted they were outright lies. >> these vicious claims about me of inappropriate conduct with women are totally and absolutely false. and the clintons know it. and they know it very well. these claims are all fabricated. they're pure fiction and outright lies. these events never, ever happened. >> reporter: but donald trump
didn't just take aim at the veracity of the claims, but aim at the women making them. why they took so long to make the claims and suggesting one was not attractive enough to gain his interest. not only is he sliding in the polls, but they pinned strategy on taking both hillary and bill clinton to task over bill clinton's sexual misconduct in the 1990s. donald trump says all those women deserve to be believed. he will be back on the campaign trail in north carolina. if last night is any preview, he is trying to transition back to the issues. back to you. >> sara, thank you. "the new york times" is telling donald trump he can go ahead and sue. the newspaper is standing by the story. issued a scathing rejection
letter. the attorney writes nothing in the article has anything about the reputations that mr. trump has created for himself. this morning, president obama campaigns for hillary clinton at an early voting event in ohio, but it was his wife, michelle obama, who sent shockwaves through the campaign. the speech in new hampshire. the likes of which she has never given before. it was an all-out-takedown of donald trump without mentioning him by name. >> too many are treating this as just another day's headline. as if our outrage is overblown or unwarranted. as if this is normal. just politics as usual. but new hampshire, be clear, this is not normal.
this is not politics as usual. this is disgraceful. it is intolerable. it doesn't matter which party you belong. >> new this morning, hillary clinton is speaking out about the latest accusations against donald trump. this is her first interview since the first presidential debate. she sat down with ellen degeneres. she talks about the shimmy she gave in the first debate. now secretary clinton says that even facing a barrage of sexual misconduct claims, the campaign, although trump is, she says the campaign is far from finished. >> there's a lot that is coming out which is distressing on many levels, but i don't want anybody
to think this election's over because it has been so unpredictable up to now. i'm not taking anything for granted. we have to work hard for the next three and a half weeks. who knows what can happen? >> there are revelations about hillary clinton's e-mail answers. the secretary had to answer write questions. she relied on advisers to manage her server. she does not recall being contacted by the state department. secretary clinton said hacking concerns were never raised and she choose to use an e-mail server for convenience. she said that was a mistake and she apologizes. joining us to discuss this is cnn's tal kopan. tal, this was a remarkable moment yesterday. it happened to be while i was on tv anchoring a different show than "early start." you had a split screen with
michelle obama in a scathing takedown of donald trump. and donald trump issues his takedown of the entire national media and all the women who accused him of sexual misconduct. this was a moment. >> absolutely. you know what's really interesting about it is to a certain extent, both were incredibly effective at speaking to their base. let's establish from the beginning there is about 40% of the public sticking with donald trump throughout everything so far. they probably hung on his every word and believed his denials of what took place. michelle obama speaking to a base. that seems to be a bigger base at the moment. if we believe the polls and her approval ratings and her husband's approval rating. the question is who is broadening the tent and who is getting the undecided voters. and donald trump is doubling down on that base. he is speaking to the folks who
have been with him along the way and that's probably where he's going to fail in the regard. he is not doing what michelle obama is doing. trying to make a broader message to the electorate. >> let's give you a taste. first, let's play a snipit from donald trump talking about the reporter of "people" magazine talking about the unwanted kissing episode on mar-a-lago. >> take a look. take a look. look at her. look at her words. you tell me what you think. i don't think so. i don't think so. >> look at her. i don't think so. let that sink in for a moment. now i'll play michelle obama who was in new hampshire yesterday. michelle obama said she hasn't been able to stop thinking about donald trump and some of the accusations against him in the last few days and the "access
hollywood" tape that came out last week. >> we know if we let hillary's opponent win the election, we are sending a clear message to the kids that everything we are seeing and hearing is perfectly okay. we are validating it. we are endorsing it. we are telling our sons that it's okay to humiliate women. we are telling our daughters this is how they deserve to be treated. we are telling all our kids that bigotry and bullying are perfectly acceptable in the leader of their country. is that what we want for our children. >> again, the first lady of the united states, a vocal advocate for her husband. i don't believe she has ever been as forceful in a campaign speech as yesterday. it is telling to me, tal, hillary clinton, who is on the ballot for president, she is off the campaign trail between now and the final debate if it takes
place next week. meanwhile, president obama and michelle obama will be out there and i think the clinton team is okay with that. >> the democrats certainly have a stable of surrogates right now for their candidate that the republicans just don't have. you have current president, former president, a current first lady, all of whom who have high approval ratings going out and speak for the democratic candidate. the republican candidate who is his own best surrogate has a stable of lesser republican officials. you don't have the highest ranking members of the party or former highest ranking members of the party out there for him. the democrats along the way have enjoyed giving donald trump enough rope to get himself in trouble and when he is in a bad spot, they like to take a step back and let the public hear from his own mouth. it is hard to deny that is a bad clip we played from donald
trump. it is not the entire speech. when he tried to respond to the allegations about the woman's looks, that will not appeal to the middle voter who is looking at him to sort of rise above what is going on. you know, in a sense, we are seeing that strategy again from the democrats. give donald trump the space to sort of do their work for him. at times it has back fired for them. it doesn't seem to be back firing right now. >> tal, you will come back later. we will talk about president obama who had a very different line of attack. he is trying to do something very different with donald trump and the republicans than his own wife did on the campaign trail yesterday. that's coming up in our next half hour. the donald trump campaign wants to know why now. why are donald trump's accusers waiting until the final weeks of the race to come forward. you will hear from one of the accusers in her own words. that's next.
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you say his hands were everywhere. can you be specific? >> well, he was grabbing my breasts and trying to turn me toward him and kissing me. and then after a bit, that's when his hands started going -- i was wearing a skirt -- and his hands started going toward my knee and up my skirt. >> that was jessica leeds telling anderson cooper quote trump was trying to grab anything he could get a landing spot. the question is why she is coming forward now right before the election. this is what she told anderson. >> i didn't start telling my story until about a year and a half ago when it became apparent that he was making a serious run for the presidency. and i would have an occasion to
say to a group of friends let me tell you my trump story. most of these friends were women. my book club. this club. it was neighbors and friends and everything. but a couple of men, my son-in-law, my son, friends, my nephew. the whole thing. and over the year and a half that i've been telling it, it's like it doesn't change it at all. it still infuriates me. a lot of my friends say you have to write this story up. you have to contact somebody and maybe it known. it was too long ago. >> you didn't want to do that? >> not particularly. it was too long ago. when you at the debate -- well,
the friday night tapes and that whole bus scene was really annoying. and then the debate when you specifically asked trump had he ever groped a woman or i forgot how you phrased it. he said no. >> i asked if he ever was just bragging about sexual assault or actually done what he said. had he ever kissed a woman without consent or groped a woman. >> right. he said no. i literally wanted to throw something at the tv or punch my hand in the tv. that was sunday night and monday morning i found myself writing an e-mail. letter to the editor of "the times." >> something about him actually denying it on that stage? >> yes. yes. that's it exactly. >> what do you think it was
about that moment that made you want to go public? >> because i really would like for the fact that he's lying and he lies about so many things really brought out and yes, you did. you asked a very good question. he's very good at all of a sudden talking about isis and he was talking about defense and he was talking about this, that and the other. he manages to change the conversation. sometimes i think i don't think he's even really aware that he's lying. he's built up his defenses in his head to the extent that he doesn't know. >> that was jessica leeds to anderson overnight. to sports. how did the dodgers close out the nationals in the national
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bring on the cubs. that's what the dodgers are saying after beating the nationals to advance to the national league championship series. coy wire has the bleacher report. >> john, win or go home. the dodgers clayton kershaw showing why he is the best pitcher on the planet. dodgers up 4-3. and in trouble. he walks jason werth to put the
tying run on second. so bring him out. clayton kershaw comes to pitch. he is supposed to be resting. he just pitched on tuesday. before the game, his manager said there is no way kershaw would be able to pitch. he rallies and gets the last two outs and the first save of his career. advancing his team. dodgers win 4-3. they have a date with the cubs at wrigley field on saturday. >> we're going to enjoy it and we'll celebrate tonight and have a lot of fun doing it. tomorrow we're going to chicago and our mind is completely shifted to beat the cubs. >> tonight in the american league championship series is toronto and cleveland on tbs. thursday night football. broncos and chargers. chargers have blown a fourth quarter lead in four of the five
games they played. broncos get an on-side kick late in the game. they get a shot for the win with a hail mary. will the chargers fall again? great job by the db. chargers win 21-13. broncos lost two in a row after starting 4-0. highest profile football game to be postponed by hurricane matthew is lsu and florida has been rescheduled. this after days of bickering of where and when. it will be moved to lsu on november 19th. it was originally supposed to be a home game for florida. the compromise, they play in gainesville next season. college football action this weekend. good games, john. ohio state at wisconsin. alabama at tennessee. both higher ranked teams on the road. >> interesting thing.
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we already have substantial evidence to dispute these lies. >> donald trump digs in. he flat out denies the sexual assault allegations against him, but his accusers are not backing down. one speaks exclusively to cnn. >> is that what we want for our children? >> the first lady michelle obama in new hampshire with a speech that everyone is talking about this morning. unprecedented for this first lady. we will talk about that coming up. welcome back to "early start." i'm john berman. 30 minutes after the hour. christine romans stuck in washington, d.c. with plane
trouble. this morning, donald trump says there is a conspiracy to defeat him. he launched a scathing assault against the media and the list of women who accused him of kissing or groping or sexual assault. one of his accusers spoke out. she had new detail to the claims. this was an exclusive interview with anderson cooper. >> when you specifically asked trump had he ever groped a woman or i forget how you phrased it and he said no. i literally wanted to throw something at the tv or punch my hand in the tv. that was sunday night and monday morning i found myself writing an e-mail. letter to the editor to "the times." >> we will have much more coming up in a little bit. first, trump's defense against the claims in what he considers the conspiracy to defeat him.
in florida and ohio, he blasted the accusers. he called them pure fiction. he promised to produce evidence the claims were false, but did not do so yesterday. cnn's sara murray has latest. >> reporter: with less than four weeks, donald trump spent yesterday denying allegations from multiple women who say they were sexually assaulted by donald trump. trump agitated insisting they were outright lies. >> these vicious claims about me of inappropriate conduct with women are totally and absolutely false. and the clintons know it and they know it very well. these claims are all fabricated. they're pure fiction and they're outright lies.
these events never, ever happened. >> reporter: but donald trump didn't just take aim at the veracity of the claims, but took aim at the women making them. questioning why they took so long to report these and one instance suggesting the woman was not attractive enough to warrant donald trump's attention. all of this is interesting at the trump campaign. they pinned their strategy on taking both hillary and bill clinton to task for women who accused bill clinton of sexual misconduct in the 1990s. the trump campaign has insisted repeatedly all those women deserved to be believed. he will be back on the campaign trail in north carolina today. if last night is any preview, he is trying to transition away from the accusations and back to the issues. we will see if he is successful. >> this morning, president obama campaigns in ohio for hillary clinton. it was his wife, michelle obama, who sent shockwaves through the
campaign. this was an arresting speech in new hampshire. she hasn't given one like this before. an all-out-takedown of donald trump without mentioning him by name. listen. >> too many are treating this as just another day's headline. as if our outrage is overblown or unwarranted. as if this is normal. just politics as usual. but new hampshire, be clear, this is not normal. this is not politics as usual. this is disgraceful. it is intolerable. and it doesn't matter what party you belong to. >> new this morning, we are getting our first look at hillary clinton's sit down interview with ellen degeneres.
this was her first chance to speak about the new accusations about donald trump. you saw ellen and hillary talking about the famous shimmy that the secretary of state gave in the first debate. the secretary of state, ellen was asking her if she thought that she had this campaign essentially in the bag because of the latest accusations. secretary clinton says no. listen. >> there's a lot that is coming out which is distressing on many levels, but i don't want anybody to think this election's over because it has been unpredictable up until now. i'm not taking anything for granted. we have to work really hard for the next three and a half weeks because who knows what can happen. >> who knows. there aren't new revelations this morning about the e-mails. she relied on advisers to manage her e-mail server. she claimed she does not recall
being contacted by the state department about preserving her e-mails. she said hacking concerns were never raised and chose to use personal e-mail for convenience. she said that was a mistake and she apologizes. let's discuss the current situation. we have tal kopan with us live from washington. the speech he gave yesterday in florida had a power he has not had to date in the campaign. he went after the media hard. he went after what he called a conspiracy, a global conspiracy of hillary clinton and big business and the media to defeat him. >> first of all, john, the idea of a media is made up of thousands of reporters working very hard mostly driven by pursuit of the truth. when donald trump gets up there and slams the media, what he is
doing is trying to issue a call to his supporters to say everyone's against us. come to my side. this is a game that all politicians play. when headlines are not favorable to them, they try to blame the media for their ilk. you know, the problem is if this begins to get out of hand and, of course, you know, some of the actions we have seen toward the media at donald trump rallies, you heard are a little intense. you see him doing what politicians always do which is looking for someone else to blame when the going gets tough. on the other hand, you see him describing this conspiracy that would have to be so vast to be true, it's really a bit far fetched. >> i want to get a quick comment
which is getting attention. talking about the "people" magazine reporter who said donald trump made unwanted sexual advances on her when she wrote an article on the trumps at mar-a-lago. let's listen. >> take a look. you take a look. look at her. look at her words. you tell me what you think. i don't think so. i don't think so. >> quick comment on that, tal. was he saying take a look at her? that is not someone i would make moves on? >> it's hard not to hear that when you listen back a few times. i almost didn't notice it when i listened to the speech live. there is a sense to that in his tone. you know, it's not surprising that he's lashing out at these women accusing him. he is being attacked. he is attacking back. he said he is a counter-puncher.
it is not surprising to see him go on attack when he feels like that is what is happening to him. >> he has denied the claims in "the times" and in "people" magazine as well. we talked about michelle obama. we played that sound which is a takedown of trump without mentioning him by name. that is what she has done in the campaign. he is not normal. this is not something that we see in politics. he is not like other republicans. then president obama gave a speech last night in ohio to democrats in ohio. where he did the opposite. he tried to put donald trump smack dab in the middle of the republican party. listen. >> they know better. a lot of the folks who ran. they don't get credit for at the very last minute when finally the guy they nominated and they
endorsed and supported is caught on tape saying things that no decent person would even think much less say, must less brag about, much less laugh about or joke about, much less act on. you can't wait until that finally happens and then say oh, that's too much. that's enough. and think that somehow you are showing any kind of leadership and deserve to be elected to the united states senate. >> maybe i'm overreading into this. i think it is an important distinction. you get the sense that hillary clinton and democrats are trying to give republicans permission to vote for her. who say we understand you are different than donald trump. on the other hand, you have president obama saying no, no, no. he's yours. >> i think they have been trying to have it both ways for a while now. they are really struggling with this. on the one hand, they want
republicans to come to their side and vote for hillary clinton because donald trump is in their eyes singularly unacceptable. then they want to hit senate candidates and down ballot saying you are the same party as the top of the ticket. so people down ballot should vote for democrats. they are trying to have it both ways. they are not able to have it both ways. by dividing their surrogates, they are tying to take that tack to it. you know, it is clear there are split ticket voters out there this election cycle. if you look at the polls, there are a lot of them. >> tal kopan, thank you. see you real soon. >> thank you. the donald trump campaign has a question this morning. why now? why are trump's accusers waiting until the final weeks of the race to come forward? you will hear one in an exclusive interview to cnn next. mornin'.
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you say his hands were everywhere. can you be specific? >> well, he was grabbing my breasts and trying to turn me toward him and kissing me. and then after a bit, that's when his hands started going -- i was wearing a skirt -- and his hands started going toward my knee and up my skirt. >> that was jessica leeds telling anderson cooper trump groped her wherever he could find a landing spot. this alleged incident took place in the 1970s. a lot of people are asking why is she coming forward now right before the election. this is what she told anderson. >> i didn't start telling my story about a year and a half ago when it became apparent he
was making a serious run for the presidency. and i would have an occasion to say to a group of friends let me tell you my trump story. now most of these friends were women. my book club. it was this club. neighbors and friends. a couple of men. my son-in-law, my son, friends, my nephew. the whole thing. and over the year and a half that i've been telling it, it's like it doesn't change it at all. it still infuriates me. it was a long time ago. it wasn't until sunday night and all of them. all of my friends would say you got to write this story up. you have to publish it. you have to contact somebody and make it known. i said it was too long ago. >> you didn't want to do that.
>> not particularly. it was too long ago. when you at the debate -- well the friday night tapes and that whole bus scene was really annoying. and then the debate when you specifically asked trump had he ever groped a woman or i forget how you phrased it and he said no. >> i asked if he was just bragging about sexual assault or actually done what he said. kissed a woman without consent or groped a woman. >> right. he said no. i literally wanted to throw something at the tv and punch my hand in the tv. that was sunday night and monday morning i found myself writing an e-mail letter to the editor of "the times." >> something of him actually
denying it on the stage. >> yes, yes. that's it exactly. >> what do you think it was about that moment that made you want to go public? >> because i really would like for the fact that he's lying and he lies about so many things really brought out. and yes, you did. you asked very good question. he is very good at all of a sudden talking about isis and he was talking about defense and talking about this, that and the other. he manages so change the conversation. and sometimes i think i don't think he's even really aware that he's lying. he's built up his defenses in his head to the extent that he doesn't know. >> that was jessica leeds to anderson overnight. let's see what is coming up on
"new day" with alisyn camerota. >> john, great to see you. we have a lot to talk about on "new day." including looking at the juxtaposition of the stunning speeches. one by first lady michelle obama and one by donald trump. both about the sexual assault allegations against donald trump. why after the year and a half of a crazy campaign has this become the inflection point? the treatment of women. we have all sorts of people. great guests to help us analyze this. we have a lot happening in the background here. people getting ready for the show. we have carl burnstein and reporters to walk us through when chris and i and the crew see you at the top of the hour. >> i had no idea there was so much walking in television. so much walking went in to
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they would not say how many flights or passengers were affected. one was christine romans. the star of "early start." stuck in washington, d.c. apparently completely unaware that things such as trains and cars and buses also exist. only flights from washington to new york apparently. she was down there to host a policy debate. economic debate with the trump campaign and the clinton campaign. she was joined by greg ipp and steven moore. the clinton economic adviser on behalf of the secretary of state. the debate posted by the association of business economics. the sides have different visions and promises for the economy. romans asked how a trump administration would achieve the goal of 4% economic growth. >> first of all, if trump wins, he will have a republican congress and we will be able to pass our business tax cut within the first 100 to 150 days.
we will have a stack of executive orders that he can sign that can undo a lot of the executive orders that obama put in place. >> but gene spurling knows how to get the economy going with clinton given her experience with her husband's presidency. >> hillary clinton was part of the administration i was part of with the only four years of surplus and had a strategy very much like hers which was raising taxes on those who could afford it the most. that led to the last time we had 4% growth. >> you see more of that economic debate at cnnmoney.com. all right. baseball. chicago, here they come. the los angeles dodgers play the cubs for the national league pennant. they had a victory over the nationals. d.c. fans, no orioles, no nationals. no nothing for you.
this was the deciding game of the nlds. the dodgers brought in clayton kershaw to get the final two outs. they face the cubs saturday night at wrigley field. a daunting task. donald trump is not backing down. neither are his accusers. "new day" starts right now. >> is it so abhorrent. >> it is cruel. the truth is it hurts. >> these vicious claims are totally and absolutely false. and the clintons know it. >> his hands were everywhere. his hands started going up my sirt. >> these events never, ever happened. >> this isn't about politics. it's about basic human decency. >> this is a conspiracy against you, the american people. >> we already learned who donald trump is. we have to prove who we are. >> this is "new day" with chris
cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> good morning. welcome to "new day." it is friday, october 14th. 6:00 in the east. friends, we are at a moment of reckoning. democrats and republicans agree on that. back-to-back speeches by michelle obama and donald trump that provided the most stark contraco contrast in the election. donald trump was denying allegations of unwanted sexual allegations on women. saying it was all lies and part of the media and clinton conspiracy to take him down. and michelle obama with a speech yesterday with condemnation of trump bragging on sexually assaulting women. we are 25 days from the election day and five days until the final presidential debate. we have it covered for you. let's start with brianna keilar live in washington. >> reporter: alisyn, good morning. the race getting nastier.
first lady michelle obama sharply denouncing the gop nominee. donald trump is defending himself from the latest allegations lashing out against people in his party and rigged elections as poll >> this is a struggle for the survival of our nation. >> reporter: an apocalyptic call to arms. portraying himself as the victim of a smear campaign, a conspiracy orchestrated by clinton, the media and the establishment. >> this is a cross roads in the history of our civilization. >> reporter: the republican nominee flatly denying the accusations against him. >> these claims are all fabricated. they're pure fiction and they're outright lies.