tv Early Start With John Berman and Christine Romans CNN October 19, 2016 1:00am-2:01am PDT
♪ it is the final countdown to the final debate. the stakes could not be higher. this could be the last chance for donald trump to get back in this race. >> hillary clinton staying out of the public eye to prepare for tonight's showdown. what is her strategy? will she go on the attack? or will she be forced to explain those damaging e-mail leaks to tens of millions of voters. it is the final of those three debate days, everyone. good morning to everyone.
welcome to "early start." i'm christine romans. >> i'm john berman. it is wednesday, october 19th. it's 4:00 a.m. in the east. i have no idea what time it is where i am, live at the university of nevada, las vegas. it could be the last chance for donald trump to right this ship to claw his way back into the campaign. he's behind in the latest round of national polls by a lot. he's also in most of the battleground states. he made two stops in colorado on his way here. urging supporters, don't believe the polls and he delivered a dire warning about a possible hillary clinton victory. >> history will record that 2017 was the year that america lost, truly lost its independence. truly lost its independence. and by the way, this is our
final shot, folks. in four years it's over. you're never going to be able to win. it's going to be a one-party system. this is your final shot. >> trump renewed his pledge to build a wall along the border with mexico. and he described himself to voters there colorado as a unifier. let's get more from cnn's jason carroll. >> reporter: john and christine, donald trump had very little to say about the debate to the crowd here in grand junction, colorado. he did say the debate would be, quote, interesting. certainly, a lot of his supporters want him to stay on message during the debate. and while out on the campaign trail having said that a number of gop leaders pushing back on donald trump unfounded claims that the electoral process is, quote, rigged. they certainly want him to stop talking about it when he's out on the campaign trail but donald trump kept pushing the idea anyway. >> moment is going to be
november 8th. it's very simple. and we will -- we've just begun to fight. they even want to try and rig the election at the polling booths where so many cities are corrupt. and voter fraud is all too common. and then they say, oh, there's no voter fraud in our country. no, no, there's no voter fraud. take a look at st. louis. take a look at philadelphia. take a look at chicago. and then i have even the republicans saying, oh, this is a wonderful -- look. look. if nothing else, people are going to be watching on november 8th. >> reporter: trump holding the media responsible for what he calls that rigged system, saying that the media has been, quote, lying, cheating and stealing. again, these are donald trump's words. he also said that the media at this point is worse than his opponent hillary clinton. john, christine.
>> jason carroll, thanks so much. donald trump did have a new policy proposal. term limits for members of congress. he's calling for a constitutional amendment. it would take a constitutional amendment that would restrict members to six years of service, senators, 12 years. on monday, they proposed an ethics on when the executive branch leave office. cnn has learned new details about donald trump's preparation for the final debate. a source tells us that rnc chair reince priebus played the moderators with new jersey governor chris christie playing hillary clinton. this is a bit of a change doing mock scenarios. we had been told in the first debate, he did not do this. did not want to do this, apparently coming in nor prepared. hillary clinton, she's been off the campaign trail for several days, raising money and preparing for tonight's debate. in the very first debate she
seemed to be trying to bait trump. at 9:00 p.m. eastern, she is expected to employ a different strategy, according to cnn's jeff zeleny. >> that's right, hillary clinton is getting ready for her final debate with donald trump. she's preparing in a different way. now, she's been actually familiarizing herself with all of those campaign e-mails and previous positions and statements unearthed through the stolen hacked e-mails published by wikileaks. it is a new development in this campaign. something she is preparing for. something she expected donald trump will go after. she will also, i'm told, go after what donald trump is did calling a rigged election. pushing back hard, perhaps as a way to get under donald trump's skin. she's also going to make the case for why she can be the president for all americans. of course, that message is aimed at getting some republicans some moderate voters who may not have
been open for voting for her. but they simply cannot be there for trump. she's trying to make the case today, "a," she's presidential, and "b," even if you don't love her, you still may want to vote for her because donald trump in the eyes of the clinton campaign is simply not fit for president. of course, donald trump will be getting his last licks in. this is the last time before a big audience raising case about honesty and her trustworthiness. with the campaign less than three weeks away from election day. john and christine. >> jeff zeleny for us. the third installment of the debate trilogy is tonight on cnn. we are here now. we'll be here all day long. christine romans. >> thank you so much, john berman. president obama has a message for donald trump, quit whining. the commander in chief calling out donald trump for his repeated claim that's election
is rigged. listen to him mock the gop for what he calls the unprecedented and dangerous attack on the nation's election system. >> that is both irresponsible. and by the way, doesn't really show the kind of leadership and toughness that you want out of a president. you start whining before the game's even over. if whenever things are going badly for you, you start blaming somebody else? then you don't have what it takes to be in this job. >> the president hosted his final state dinner last night welcoming italian prime minister matteo renzi. in his toast on the south lawn he borrowed a line from yogi berra telling the crowd it ain't over 'til it's over. heavyweights for v.p., an e-mail allegedly sent by gop
mike pence. has a list, tim cook, bill gates, mary barra, howard schultz and muhtar kent. with tim kaine this was an early list along with kaine, elizabeth sanders and others made the cut. much snarking on social media. podesta said he organized the list by food groups. those groups were gender and race as well as professional background. will they or won't they? a lot of speculation whether donald trump and hillary clinton will shake hands before tonight's third and final debate. we already know who won't be shaking hands. details ahead on "early start." "credit karma, why are you checking your credit score?"
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welcome back to the university of las vegas, the site of tonight's third and final debate. you can see the students scurrying about campus, getting the last second studying in. that is the debate hall, where tonight at 9:00 p.m. eastern, hillary clinton and donald trump, they face off for the final time with less than three weeks to go. now, both candidate, they will be bringing guests to tonight's debate. the clinton campaign will have a couple of billionaires in the audience.
hewlett-packard ceo meg williams and 345shg cuban. donald trump has invited president obama's kenyan-born half brother malik. and he will be bringing kristin smith, the mother of sean smith who has held hillary clinton responsible for her son's death. we do not know if hillary clinton and donald trump will shake hands when they walk in. there will be no hand shakes between the candidates' family members. the clinton camp reportedly suggested a new setup at the start. according to the "the new york times," family members will now enter the hall in their assigned seats instead of crossing the stage like you saw there. bill clinton and ivanka and the trump boys. clinton worried about trump pulling off a stunt like packing the audience with bill clinton's
female accusers. "people" magazine is standing by the article that bill clinton sexually assaulted her in 1995. family and friends who corroborate natasha stoynoff's story. look at her, i don't think so. >> john and christine, "people" magnifiering back at donald and melania trump after both of those vigorously denied natasha stoynoff's account of donald trump sexually assaulting her. stoynoff's mentor and former journalism professional paul mclock ineven tweeting this. in 2005 natasha phoned me crying saying trump assaulted her. she is telling the truth.
hash tag natasha stoynoff. when at mar-a-lago, and writing in a "people" magazine article this. she said, we walked into that room alone and trump shut the door behind us. i turned around and within seconds he was pushing me against the wall and forcing his tongue down my throat. stoynoff said she asked her editors to be taken off trump coverage but never came forward publicly until now. she also wrote that she later ran into melania trump on fifth avenue and asking her why they didn't see her anymore. melania denying that to anderson cooper. >> that never happened. she interviewed twice, and for that story, that's it. i did not see her on the street or ask her why we don't see her name. >> "people" releasing a quote for a friend saying she was with
stoynoff for that exact encounter. a friend said they chatted in a friendly way. what struck me the most was melania was carrying a child and wearing heels. melania stands by her denial of this ever happening and still demands an a retraction and apology from "people" magazine. 17 minutes after. the operation for the fight for mosul. iraq's second largest city. how long will this take and are americans forces in harm's way here? we've got a live report from iraq -- next.
the operation to liberate mosing could take two months, that assessment from a kurdish military commander after day two of the offensive. nearly 100,000 troops are marching on iraq's second largest city. their mission to bring an end two more than two years of isis rule there and push the extremist group out of the country for good. we want to go live to erbil, iraq, michael holmes is at the front. >> reporter: yeah, christine, it's moving well, the iraqi and kurdish leadership and also the americans, they're all saying this advance on mosul is on schedule or even ahead of schedule. it's a very are deliberate methodical advance, though. they're taking and clearing territory as they go. and then having to hold it as
well. iraqi forces say they're continuing to liberate towns and villages on route to mosul. in fact, the commander of one division telling cnn that his forces have destroyed, in his words, dozens of suicide vehicles. also saying they've cleared a large number of ieds. and have killed at least 50 isis fighters over the last two days since this offensive began. they also found, and we had heard an these, too, they found networks of tunnels used to transport weaponry. and they found food in one of those tunnels that was still warm. those iraqi forces and kurdish forces working to take on the areas they've taken before moving on closer to mosul. there are perhaps some units perhaps within 10 kilometers of mosul. so they're getting ever closer. as you said, the estimate is perhaps two weeks before
everything is in place. and coordinated to begin the assault itself. and then once inside the city, it really gets tough. it could take two months, perhaps more to defeat isis in that city. isis reportedly has anywhere between 3,000 and 5,000 fighters inside. of course, we have to remember, there are up to 1 million civilians still inside that city and in a pier littlous situation, christine. >> absolutely. thanks for that report, michael holmes. breaking overnight, caught on video, police ramming into protesters injuring several. this happened at an anti-u.s. rally at the american embassy in manila. look at this, video footage showing demonstrators hitting the vans with ba tons. they had taken the batons from police. they gathered to put an end to u.s. troops in the philippines and to support a call by president duterte for a foreign policy not dependent on the u.s.
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this easy-to-understand guide will answer some of your questions and help you find the aarp medicare supplement plan that's right for you. the clock is ticking. the final countdown to the final debate. huge stakes here in las vegas. this could be the final chance for donald trump. to get back into this race. hillary clinton staying out of the public eye. preparing for tonight's showdown. what's the strategy? will she go on the attack? will she be forced to explain those e-mail leaks to tens of billions of voters? welcome back to "early start" this wednesday morning. i'm christine romans in new york. >> i'm john berman, about 30 minutes past the hour, i think.
i'm live at the university of nevada in las vegas. but, we actually have people out here now to watch, to watch this show to join us as we count down to the third and final debate between hillary clinton and donald trump. this could be the last best chance for donald trump to right his ship. to claw his way back into the campaign. you can see the excitement building here on campus. donald trump he is behind the latest round of national polls by a lot in some of those polls. he's also trailing in most of the key battleground states. he made two stops in battleground colorado on his way here. urging his supporters don't believe the polls. and he delivered a kind of dire warning about a possible clinton victory. >> history will record that 2017 was the year that america lost, truly lost its independence. truly lost its independence. and, by the way, this is our
final shot, folks. in four years, it's over. you're never going to be able to win. you're never going to be able to win. it's going to be a one-party system. this is your final shot. >> donald trump is also renewing his pledge to build a wall along the border with mexico. he describes himself to voters in colorado as a unifier. let's get more now from cnn's jason carroll. >> reporter: john and christine, donald trump had very little about the debate to the crowd here in grand junction, colorado, he did say that the debate would be, quote, interesting. certainly, a number of his supporters want him to stay on message during the debate. and while he's out on the campaign trail, having said that a number of gop leaders pushing back on donald trump's unfounded claims that the electoral process is, quote, rigged. they certainly want him to stop talking about it when he's out on the campaign trail. but donald trump kept pushing the idea anyway. >> the moment is going to be
november 8th. it's very simple. and we will -- we've just begun to fight. they even want to try and rig the election at the polling booth where so many cities are corrupt and voter fraud is all too common. then they say, oh, there's no voter fraud in our country. there's no voter fraud. no, there's no voter fraud. take a look at st. louis. take a look at philadelphia. take a look at chicago. then i have even the republicans saying, oh, this is a wonderful -- look. look. if nothing else, people are going to be watching on november 8th. >> reporter: trump holding the media responsible for what he calls that rigged system. saying that the media has been, quote, lying, cheating and stealing, again these are donald trump's words. he also said that the media at this point is worse than his opponent hillary clinton. john, christine.
>> all right, jason carroll, thanks so much. donald trump will unveil a new policy, term limits for congressional amendments that will restrict house terms to six years, senate members to two terms, 12 years. on monday trump proposed a series of ethics reform including a five-year ban on lobbying when members of the executive branch leave office. cnn has learned new details about donald trump's preparation for the final debate here at the university of nevada in las vegas. a source telling us that rnc chair reince priebus played the moderator in final sessions with new jersey governor chris christie playing hillary clinton. this is a mock debate format. the kind of thing he did not like to do before the first debate. interesting that he's doing it now. hillary clinton has been off the campaign trail for several days raising money and preparing for tonight's debate.
in the first debate, she seemed to be trying to bait donald trump. when they square off tonight in several hours from now, she's expected to employ a different strategy. let's get the latest from cnn's jeff zeleny. >> reporter: that's right, hillary clinton is getting ready for her third and final debate with donald trump she's preparing just as much as she did for the first two but i'm told in a very different way. now, she's actually familiarizing herself with all of the campaign e-mails in previous statements that have been unearthed through the stolen hacked e-mails published by wikileaks. it's a new development in the campaign. something she is preparing for. something she expects donald trump will go after. she will also go after what donald trump is calling a rigged election. she'll be pushing back on that hard, perhaps as a way to get under donald trump's skin. she's also going to make the case for why she can be the president for all americans. now, of course, that message is aimed at getting some republicans, some moderate
voters who may not have been open to voting for her but they simply cannot vote for donald trump. overall, that is her objective in tonight's debate trying to make the case, "a," she's presidential. and "b," even if you don't love her, you may still want to vote for her, donald trump in the eyes of the clinton campaign is simply not fit to be president. donald trump will be getting his last licks in. this is the last time before a big audience for raise his case. raising questions about her honestly and truft worthiness without question. tonight's debate will set the stage for the rest of the campaign less than three weeks away from election day. john and christine. >> thank you so much. debate number three is tonight. cnn here now and all day long. christine romans. >> all day and all night. we don't even know what time it is in vegas. we don't even need to know. president obama has a message for donald trump, quit
whining. the commander in chief calling out trump for his repeated claims this election is rigged. obama mocking the gop for what he calls a dangerous unprecedented attempt on the nation's office. michelle kosinski has more. >> hi, john and christine, in case you haven't noticed president obama is happy to speak his mind on donald trump. it's clear that he sees opportunities. listen to what he said yesterday when asked about donald trump's recent comments on a rigged election. >> that is both irresponsible, and by the way, doesn't really show the kind of leadership and toughness that you want out of a president. you start whining before the game's even over? if whenever things are going
badly for you and you lose, you start blaming somebody else? then you don't have what it takes to be in this job. >> president also took a heavy shot, not just at donald trump's praise of russian president vladimir putin but also again for republicans who continue to support donald trump. and as we wind down the days before this election actually happens, we can expect to see, again, president obama and the first lady out on the campaign trail this week. john and christine. >> all right, michelle kosinski. top issue for millennial voters and their parents. stupid loan debt. brand new report shows grads are leaving college with more debt than ever before. here are the grim numbers. the average student loan at graduation is now $30,100. that's up 4% from the last year. that amounts in $300 a month. think about that, these kids are graduating $300 in debt payments every month for ten years.
those averages are higher because that does not include students at for profit colleges. most students at for profit colleges do take out loans and they tend to borough higher amounts. private schools cost families an average of $26,400 last year. v% of median income. the amount of students taking automatic loans for college may have plateaued though. right now, 68% of kids have taken out loans in in 1983, less than half. and top that at 24% at 2012. and hillary clinton inviting two billionaires. real billionaires, not fake billionaires like donald trump, donald trump is bringing a relative of president obama needling the president about his half brother. more on earl"early start" next.
john berman here at the university of nevada in las vegas. where the anticipation is building, along with the crowd. we have at least three, four, five people here maybe. i expect we could get to a dozen by 5:30 eastern time. as the excitement building for tonight. the third and final debate between hillary clinton and donald trump. our thanks to the students for sticking to their study plans and being here to support us on this debate. both candidates, they will be bringing guests to the debate tonight. hillary clinton bringing a couple of billionaires. mark cuban will be there owner of the dallas mavericks. and hewlett-packard ceo meg whitman will be there as well. donald trump invited president obama's kenyan-born half brother malik who is reportedly
supporting donald trump. and donald trump also inviting patricia smith the mother of benghazi victim sean smith. saying she holds hillary clinton responsible for her son's death. donald trump and hillary clinton they did not shake hands prior to the second debate. we do not know if they will or will not tonight. but we do know there will be no handshakes between the candidates' family members beginning at the debate. that is because, reportedly, the clinton campaign requested a new setup. according to the "the new york times" family members will now enter the hall closer to their assigned seats, instead of crossing each other's paths on stage like you're seeing right now. sources tell cnn that the clinton team is worried about a stunt like donald trump pulled in the second debate, seating in the crowd. people who have accused president clinton of past sexual misconduct. christine romans, back to you. a new undercover video
appears to be going democratic operatives of how to have trump supporters in acts of violence. the video suggests that the operatives hired by the dnc may have had a chance in instigating violence. now, two people now out of their jobs as more questions are raised. snrch investigative correspondent drew griffin breaks it all down for us. >> reporter: the undercover videos produced by discredited conservative activist james o'keefe suggested that democratic operatives hired political activists, working in coordination with the dnc to instigate violence and incite reactions at trump rallies. and one of the under cover videos, scott phobele, a subcontractor for a dnc hired firm supposedly describes how he does it. >> it's a script, script of
engagement. sometimes the crazies bite and sometimes the crazy don't fight. the mediaological cover it no matter where it happens. initiating the conflict by having leading conversations with people. and honestly, it is not hard to get some of these assholes to pop off. >> right. >> it's a matter of showing, once you get into a rally in a planned parenthood t-shirt. or trump is a nazi. you know, a you can message to draw them out and draw them to punch you. >> reporter: according to the undercover video it was this man that the democratic national committee turned to, bob creamer is the hunt of jan schakowsky. s he, too, was caught on
undercover video, here is how he was hired by the democratic national committee to stage press conferences wherever the trump campaign showed up. >> wherever trump and pence are going to be at events. >> okay. the. >> we have a whole team across the country that does that, both consultants and people from the campaign. and, you know, my role in the campaign is to make it go away. >> reporter: creamer stepped down from the campaign today and announced his subcontractor scott foval was no longer working for his firm. both the dnc and the clinton campaign denied any coordination with anything involving the incitement of violence. creamer herself told cnn his former contractors were committing barroom talk, insisting none of what is described by foval actually happened. in a statement, creamer writes
we regret the unprofessional and careless hypothetical conversations that were captured on hidden cameras of a regional contractor for our firm. he is no longer working with us. the clinton campaign respond, while project veritas has been known to offer misleading video out of context, some of the language and tactics referenced are troubling. we support the democratic national committee appropriate action addressing this matter and look forward to continue waging a campaign of ideas worthy of our democratic process. james o'keefe is a convicted criminal, they add, with a history of doctoring video to advance his ideological agenda. >> drew griffin, thank you for that. the dnc says there is no evidence that anything described on the tapes actually happened. they will investigate whether james o'keefe broke the law to get the undercover recordings. and the partnership said it was
welcome back to "early start." the operation to liberate mosul could take two months. that assessment from a kurdish military commander after day dwof this offensive. nearly 100,000 troops are marching right now on iraq's second largest city. their mission to bring an end to more than two years of isis rule. we're also receiving word of a dangerous situation unfolding in the last hour. want to get more on that fromism
rbil from michael holmes. >> reporter: christine, as both iraqi and kurdish forces move closer to mosul what they're doing is a very deliberate, methodical advance taking in villages as they go. what we're hearing obviously shows such clearing is not an exact science. we just had a disturbing report in the last hour or so. that some iraqi soldiers, we don't know exactly how many have in fact been surrounded by isis fighters. this is near a village about 15 miles south of mosul. we're still checking into the details of that. the feeling is that they went through some villages, kept on moving, but isis fighters were left behind. perhaps fighting in those villages. came up behind them, surrounding them at the moment. still obviously a very dangerous situation and waiting to get more information on that. however, the iraqi command this is that they're going to
continue to liberate towns on their way to mosul. in fact, the commander of one division told cnn that his forces have destroyed dozens of suicide vehicles. they've cleared a large number of i ed and bobby traps and killed at least 50 fighters in the last two days. they've also, and this possibly ties into what happened with these soldiers now reportedly surrounded. there are these networks of tunnels that are in these toungs and villages, reportedly right throughout mosul as well, used to transport fighters and weaponry around the battlefield. reports that food found in one of those tunnels was still warm. so you can get a sense of what's going on underground. and the key now is to hold those areas they've taken, before they can move closer on to mosul. as you said, it's perhaps two weeks before they're told everything is likely in place to assault mosul itself. and then once inside the city. the battle itself to retake it could take two months and
perhaps more. anywhere between 3,000 and 5,000 isis fighters said to be inside mosul. christine. >> michael holmes here for us. thank you for that. breaking overnight, caught on video, police van rammed into protesters leaving several injured. this happened at an anti-u.s. rally at the american embassy in manila. you can see the footage showing demonstrators hitting vans with batons. those are ban tons taken from police. at least 1,000 protesters gathered to demand an end to u.s. troops. and support the call of president duterte for foreign policy not dependent on the yoous. dow futures slightly lower right now. investors awaiting earnings from morgan stanley, american express, ebay and others. oil is rising. goldman sachs crushed estimates on higher gold.
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tonight's showdown. still what's her strategy here? will she go on the attack? will she be forced to explain the damaging e-mail leaks to tens of thousands of voters tonight. good morning, welcome to "early start." i'm christine romans in the studio here in new york. >> i'm john berman in las vegas. it's wednesday, october 19th, it's 5:00 a.m. in the east. out here, there is no time. it is timeless. i'm live at the university of nevada in las vegas. this is the site of tonight's third and final debate between hillary clinton and donald trump. you can hear the voices of the crowd as they rise up in anticipation of what could be a decisive moment here. donald trump needs this debate to make a difference. to get back into this campaign. he is behind the latest round of national polls by a lot in some of those polls. he's also trailing in some of the key battleground states. he made two stops in colorado on his way here to las vegas. he urged his supporters, said