how do i drive the most page views? same in media as well. and consequently you get things that are click bait, things that feed people the information that they want. you are watching cnn, i'm brooke baldwin in beautiful washington, d.c. on this friday and specifically on this veterans day if i may take a moment. yes, we live in a divided nation and we have witnessed one of the darkest presidential races of our time and i know so many emotions are still raw, no matter where you stand, we are all americans, we are grateful to the men and women who sacrificed for us so i just wanted to say thank you, thank you for all that you do and for what everyone who came before you has done. now to politics of the day. chris christie out, mike pence in. sources tell cnn that governor christie has been relieved as head of trump's transition team

and that loyalty or lack thereof could be to blame. he is now a vice chair along with several other trump insiders including trump's grown children so i have with me dana bash, cnn chief political correspondent and former rnc spokesman kevin sheridan. great to see both of you. first to you, walk me through more as far as why we know it's vice president-elect pence chairing that and what we know about the chief of staff role. >> why is it vice president-elect pence? lots of reasons but primarily because donald trump knows now that he can trust mike pence, he is somebody who already has a job, we know what his role is and as part of that role already going into this, part of the reason why donald trump was comfortable picking mike pence is because of his deep ties to the political establishment and to the republican world in particular, he was a former member of congress, he knows the

players there well, he knows the players in the country because he's a governor so all of -- for all of those reasons i'm told they decided mike pence should lead the effort and why not chris christie? well, look, he did a lot of work for months and months and months quietly on the transition, came down to washington at least once a week to try to prepare for a trump administration even when people laughed at the concept that a trump administration would even happen. he's had a rough road, no pun intended, the past few weeks about the bridgegate trial and the verdict, meaning two of his former aides were found guilty and so saul of that combined with a little bit of tension, perhaps, over the "access hollywood" tape we're told. having said that, chris christie was very much involved in debate prep, helped lead debate prep with reince priebus and has

still been involved, he was there on victory night and so forth. >> on reince priebus, let me look to you all signs pointing yes as president-elect's chief of staff. this is what sources are telling cnn you know republicans in this town, what does that indicate to you as far as perhaps what a trump administration would look like and how he might govern? >> well, a lot like the campaign, reince priebus worked his way into the campaign in a trusted role for himself, he comes from an establishment wing of the party, he's tight with members of the house and senate and all the members of the rnc. >> speaker ryan who you know very well. >> and he would be a good fit. i don't think it's a done deal, i think there are a number of people that can serve. he would be good for it. i think he'll be able to serve in whatever role trump wants him to be in because he's earned his trust and that's what trump is looking for.

pence is an excellent person to lead the transition because he knows the policy, he knows the players on the hill and he's close with paul ryan so it's a good start to hit the ground running. >> chief of staff, explain, people who aren't washington insiders, why is that role so crucial? >> for so many reasons. and i want you to add or correct me if i'm wrong because he's been inside and knows really well but it's the gate keeper to the president, the person who keeps the trains running on time, it's the person who puts the call into the president when there is that 3:00 a.m. phone call and something is happening. it's the person who helps shepherd legislation, helps shepherd priorities so all of those things are traits that some people -- many people think priens priebus has but the other thing that kevin really talked about which is important is the bond.

the president really has to have real trust in the chief of staff that things are not going to get leaked, that things are in the cone and -- >> and the if chief of staff says no, mr. president, that's not a good idea, you have to listen. >> that's what i was going to say. especially a president trump, you have to have people around who will be as willing to say no as yes. and be able to convince him of that. now is reince priebus that guy? we're not 100% sure, the other person who is out there who apparently raised his hand for the job is steve bannon who i am told has a much -- has a real trust and a real bond with donald trump because even though reince priebus, the rnc chair, and trump became very close as the months went on he was still the chair of the party and that was and his is first job which meant being the go between and having to criticize him publicly like he did with the "access hollywood" tape because that was

his job as party chair. >> let me move to the list haff, the trump team has released a list of people who will be involved and you have jared kushner, who was integral in the campaign behind the scenes. he was at the white house yesterday, the son-in-law. then you have don, jr., eric trump and ivanka trump. is that a conflict of interest? >> his closest advisors have always been his family. he's a one-man band. >> none of them have government experience. >> true, but i assume they'll relying -- >> they have trump experience. >> and i assume they're relying on other people who do. he has broad latitude to pick whoever he wants. he's beholden to no one. he ran his own race, he does not need to go in a traditional way and pick party elders and typical political operatives. he can shoes from any group in washington. >> he could pick you, me, i'm just trying to think of smart people. >> he could go inside media, he could go anywhere. so this is an interesting time and we could play the name game

all day about different types of people that could serve there. we'll know soon enough. when the chief of staff is announced we'll get a -- kind of an indication of the direction he'll take whether it's steve bannon or reince priebus and that will be the first indication we'll have of which way he'll go. >> what do you think about the kids being involved? i meant that jokingly but someone who would have government experience would be a plus. aren't they running the business and -- >> well, yeah, yeah. this is the transition, right? so this is to help get their father's administration up and running and no, they don't have government experience but i said half kidding that they have trump experience. they know their dad, because they have the experience running his company. they know what will work and won't for him and with regard to his son-in-law, he was incredibly involved. i mean, he was on the phone with the rnc working on budgets and things, he was so deep in the weeds in the campaign. >> he could go beyond the

transition team, you know where i'm going with that. >> but there was a law passed in response to the -- because of jfk putting his brother in as attorney general there was a law -- there's a nepotism law and what is unclear is how a son-in-law falls into that. abigail crutchfield was looking at the law and she thought it does say in laws as well but we'll see what that means for now he could possibly put them in more formal roles or whether it's legally possible. we don't know. >> thank you both so much. so much happening, what a peek it has been. we have much more also on this transition and that's coming up. first as anti-trump protests and these demonstrations enter day three there have also been more isolated reports of divisive and hateful behavior and some of them in schools, in pennsylvania, for example, three students were suspended for chanting "white power" while

parading the halls with trump signs. >> white power! white power! >> a wall in durham, north carolina, vandalized with the words "black lives don't matter and neither does your votes." some trump supporters have reported instances of harassment themselves. this has put teachers and counselors and school administrators in tough positions of navigating these young people and their emotions. so joining me now, chad cabrera, the principal of the international community school in atlanta. whose school has a massive immigrant and refugee problem -- program so, chad, thank you so much for joining me, i'm from atlanta, i'm very well acquainted with your school. it's excellent, here's my question. when you heard the election result, you sent off a letter to your teachers, what did you tell them? >> i told my teachers that the

students will be experiencing a lot of different feelings on wednesday and i told them they needed to create space for students to talk with each other, let students share one at a time, sit down and write what they're feeling. so they have to express what's going on and they have to know we as their administrators, we care for them and will keep them safe. students are afraid. >> talk a little bit more about the fear. have you seen, though, also, any elation or -- walk me through the spectrum of emotions for these young people. >> wednesday morning i greet my students outside the school and kids came off the bus drying. nay came off the bus crying, came up to hug me. one student said mr. velde-cabrera, am i going to be sent back to my country? i don't want to go back to my country. so there was a lot of fear but i want to commend my teachers because they created that space and the teachers were assuring the students they're safe and won't be sent back and i've seen

so many examples of students stepping up i saw one student telling another student "i know you're afraid, but you're here, you're together, you're not going anywhere, you're staying here with us." >> kudos to those teachers. my own mother was a teacher and we need them and they're amazing and especially at times of transitions like these. next question, are your young people, chad, are they finding a way forward? is there a sense of hope in your hallways? >> there is. our students are incredibly resilient. 50% are immigrants and refugees, 50% are born in the u.s. when you have a school where there's over 30 countries represented, over 25 languages spoken among the student population you learn to get along and you realize we're in the struggle together whatever you're going through, i'm with you. even though we don't look alike, we're together because we're trying to create a better world. that's what we do at

international community school and i'm glad the students have the support of our staff and each other during this time. >> chad, thank you for all you're doing in atlanta. chad velde-cabrera, appreciate your role. up next, we'll discuss the fear across the country and new reflections from the clinton campai campaign about why she lost. here who's getting a big part of that blame. i'm brooke baldwin, you're watching cnn. we asked people to write down the things they love to do most on these balloons. travel with my daughter. roller derby. ♪ now give up half of 'em. do i have to? this is a tough financial choice we could face when we retire. but, if we start saving even just 1% more of our annual income... we could keep doing all the things we love. prudential. bring your challenges.

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we are live on this friday afternoon in washington, d.c. thousands of demonstrators have flooded the streets in new york since election night and now barricades protecting trump tower have turned the president-elect's home into a fortress. this is protocol as he has been elected president. the faa imposing a two mile no-fly zone over his home, his workplace. president-elect trump took to twitter last night to complain about some of these demonstrations, he tweeted "just had a very open and successful presidential election, now professional protesters incited by the media are protesting. very unfair."

fast forward to this morning, tweeted this. "love the fact that the small groups of protesters last night have passion for our great country. we will all come together and be proud." let's talk more with matt schla schlapp, former political director for george w. bush, supported mr. trump. also with us today, he is back, grammy and oscar award winning hip-hop artist shea smith, also a chicago activist, and cnn political commentator and democratic strategist maria cardona. wonderful to see you all today and mr. sclapp, to you. on that about-face on twitter which sounded like a candidate trump to president-elect trump toned tweet, why didn't he just stick with the second one initially? >> you didn't get my policy? i'm not going to comment on any donald trump -- >> oh, yes, you are. oh, yes, you are. >> isn't that a smart policy? >> he is still on twitter and

the rules have changed. the rules have changed. >> look, i think this was a very emotional and raw campaign. we all lived through it, the voters did as well. a lot of things were set, people are protesting because they're upset. i think these people are protesting because they thought it was in the bag, everything they watched said this is done. i have bet that has to be very, very disheartening. >> that's not why. >> but on trump the question was, you know, why didn't -- this was an opportunity where the president-elect could have said you know what? first amendment right to protest good on you, you're allowed to do this, share your voice. >> i liked the second tweet. i liked the second tweet. >> maria. >> he should have started with the second tweet. especially after those mag ha 'nam mouse and what were very gracious words the night he won. the problem, though, brooke, is that five minutes of nice words are not going to erase 15 months of what has been bigoted racist

insulting speech to all of these communities of color and communities of different religious faiths that believe that donald trump was not just insulting them but that he would go after them if he became president. that's why people are on the streets. that is the fear that is gripping them. >> we know it went both ways and when -- we felt like we were called deplorable, which was terrible, i think it had a big impact on the race, when we saw in those e-mails when we called people of faith backwards, that was was -- those were out of line as well, there were things that were said on both sides, it was one of the mosting ing acri races we've seen. we have to get beyond this as a country. and we have to move on to the next step. >> let me move away from washington. chicago, shea, so wonderful to have you on and your voice. let's cut through this, since the last time we talked i understand you did vote for hillary clinton but you are considering now registering as a republican. tell me why. >> well, you know, we have to

start thinking about the system more than just being kind of monolith vote as black voters when you look and see donald trump received 13% of the black male vote, we have to ask ourselves, what is it that -- how can we leverage power in our communities between both parties in terms of trump, his tweets, both of those tweets you saw, i think what you're seeing is a 70-year-old man who has lived a charmed life and now he is in prison. now someone is going to take his phone. they're going to take his twitter and he has to adjust to being locked up. donald trump is essentially locked himself up and he has to adjust to it. in terms of the protesters he should be overjoyed that the american democracy is still healthy. protest is a sign that people are expressing themselves, that the constitution is in place and

what i love about the protesters, especially here in chicago is that you see them protesting on other people's behalf. this is not people just saying black lives. this is not people saying just, you know, the weather climate issue, this is people worried about one another and that is a sign of a healthy america. donald trump is inheriting a healthy economy, he should be overjoyed and we have to help him make america great as it is. >> >> make america great as it is. on that would you consider as, perhaps, a newly labelled as a republican, would you consider helping anymore an official capacity? are you considering holding an office yourself? >> is we have to redefine how the republican platform hits communities of color. we need new republicans. we need republicans that can speak to the average person in

the community. i think one of the problems we've had, especially with black republicans, you know, one of the problems is that we don't see them in the community. they speak on big platforms, they're involved in the party but they're not doing any organizing for conservative issues within the black community and the black community has shown itself to be very conservative if given the right candidate. i believe at some point i could be the right candidate. >> okay, there was the answer. at some point perhaps. >> he is good. get rid of me, he's good. much better, that's fantastic to hear. >> i agree, he's very good and i 24i what it peex to is that donald trump not only has a tremendous challenge here but he could view this as a huge opportunity, brooke. because this not only -- this election was not only insulting to so many communities of color because of what was said but the policies trump put forward scared people. banning muslims, getting rid of

daca, which protecting undocumented kids brought here through no fault of their own. he said he wants to ged it are of that. >> were you encouraged by the meeting in the oval office? >> yes. i absolutely was and i have written about this, i am willing to give trump, frankly, the benefit republicans never gave president obama when he came into office. he has an opportunity, brooke, and he has to step up. what if he invites black lives matter leaders to the white house? what if he invites leaders of the immigrant advocacy movement. that would speak volumes about how he wants to be the president of everybody and not just supporters that brought him into the office. >> bring never trump folks in this the administration we were talking about that. things to ponder as we move forward. maria and matt and che, thank you so much. up next, she went for a walk in the woods to mourn the loss of hillary clinton and you know what she did? she bumped into hillary clinton

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back live in our nation's capital, i'm brooke baldwin, thank you for being with me. just days after hillary clinton's crushing defeat, her team is effectively pointing the finger at fbi director james comey, for one, for a helping hand in ultimately the country electing donald trump. in a statement out today clinton's campaign admits they made mistakes but says ultimately they couldn't overcome james comey and the letter he sent to congress days before the election, others, including my next guess, michigan congresswoman debbie dingle says that's not solely where the blame should lie. welcome back. >> thanks, brooke, good to be with you. >> >> i know you raised the red flag to democrats and we'll get to your constituents in just a moment but what do you make of the clinton campaign pointing the finger at if fbi director?

>> you know, i haven't seen what their statement is because there have been veterans day events most of the day. that letter didn't help they're correct. this wasn't one factor. the fact is she won the popular vote. it was a combination of a lot of factors. but the op-ed i wrote today talks about we as americans and democrats have to worry about working men and women. those issues are a significant factor in how people vote when they go in the voting booth. >> but what about when you were sounding the alarm to the president of the united states himself say iing that thirp noe not listening to the party.

>> president obama saved the auto industry, he saved the economy, we would have collapsed but working men and women, the onces that i know don't want a lot, they want to make enough money so that they can live in a safe neighborhood, put food on the table, go to the doctor when they need to, afford their medicine, educate their kids and maybe give their kids hope for a better future than they have. around for too many americans they don't translate that into "hey, i'm better off" because they don't feel better off. they wages haven't stayed steady, health care has gone up, prescription prices have gone up, food prices have gone up. they're scared and that's driving -- i don't care what race, creed, religion you are wh when you walk into the voting booth, it's impacting more men and women than we realize when they vote. >> do you feel like your concerns were ignored? >> i'm not going to -- i have to

tell you, the media laughed at me as much as anybody else did and i warned people before the michigan primary. i didn't know that hillary clinton was going to lose but i knew we had an issue that needed to have people pay attention to it and it could be a serious problem and i always said to people that this election was competitive. so i don't think a lot of people listened to it. i think donald trump understood -- i don't even call it anger, i call it fear and anxiety. people have not recovered from 2008. they're scared something could happen to them again every single day. >> i know you wanted hillary clinton to win, i know you say yes part of the issue was the james comey letter and even the clinton campaign said the media was too hostile in focusing on her e-mails but she admitted she made the mistake do you think that the clinton campaign was arrogant? no, i don't think they were arrogant. i don't want to be part of a --

shooting each other as we are looking at this. you talk about when you look at the things that have been said, the sexism, the racism we saw during this presidential election, that's outrageous, too. but people in the end had to decide what was it that they were going to cast their vote for and people are disgusted, i can't tell you how many republicans i know who are disgusted by some of the things that were said by president-elect donald trump during the election but in the end they were scared. they cared about their job, they're tired of the status quo and they voted to shake it up and have someone who understood that they were scared and was going to care about them. >> here is one piece that i can pass along to you. apparently president-elect trump has done an interview with the "wall street journal" and we know he ran on this day one in office if i win i'm going to repeal and replace obamacare and apparently he told the "wall street journal" he is willing to keep parts of obamacare. how do you responsibility to

that? >> i'm going to tell you from day one i went into the congress, which has only been two years, i said i don't think republicans want to repeal it. i don't know any american that wants to go back to telling somebody that they can't have insurance because of pre-existing conditions or that an insurance company can cancel your insurance when you get cancer or that a 26-year-old cant stay on their parents' insurance, or that you'll remove lifetime caps or a woman will be treated twentily or pay higher premiums because of her gender. i don't know any republican that wanted to do that. it's been a lot of politics about saying we were going to reveal affordable care. we have to make sure every american has a right to affordable quality health care and i'm glad he's admitting there are certain things about this bill that are critical or this legislation that were critical, including the fact that 20 million people have health insurance that didn't have it before. congresswoman, about your own party? you all have to go forward figuring out who the leader

would be as far as who the chair of the dnc would be. some names being tossed around, you have howard dean, martin o'malley, ray buckley and keith ellison. we snow senator sanders is really, really enthusiastic about congressman ellison. who do you think would be the best leader? >> keith ellison is my friend. i think he will bring the progressives into the party and is a very good man but as democrats we have to take time to search our soles, understand what the dynamics were. i want to see the rode maps, i want to hear from my colleagues. one of the reasons i knew this race was competitive is because i listen to people. i have a good political gut and i want to be with people and let the political gut work before i endorse anybody. >> congresswoman debbie dingell, always a pleasure to have you on, appreciate your candor. thank you so much. >> thank you. now let me bring in a fan and supporter of hillary clinton who just got a massive surprise

one day after the former secretary of state conceded this presidential race. she says she was heartbroken over hillary clinton's defeat, decided to go for a hike with her little girl and her dog and lo and behold, who does she run into on the hiking trail but hillary clinton and her husband the former president. she even snapped a photo to prove it and the photo was taken by president clinton. margot with was me on the phone as a busy mom. appreciate you taking a couple minutes out of your life to talk to me, margot, thank you so much. >> no problem. >> so a lot of people would have done the same in your own shoes, half the country is taking a big breath and is heartbroken, you go for a hike. who saw whom first? >> i think i saw her first. i'm not exactly sure. i was walking out and she was walking in. i think i saw her dogs first amend i went to grab my dog so

she didn't run out ahead and then as i got closer i sort of did that whole, like, oh, my god look of shock and, yeah, it was unavoidable, i was walking out and she was coming in so we were going to cross paths. >> did you -- you voted for her, you proudly took your little girl to the voting booth. did you throw your arms around her? tell me about that. >> i mean, no, i didn't literally jump into her arms, i think then the secret service might have been a little more nervous. no, you know, i think i said something along the lines of "oh my god" and i said to her what i had said after i watched her concession speech which is that all i wanted to do the entire time i watched that speech was reach my arms out, give you a hug and tell you that one of the proudest moments of my entire motherhood was taking my daughter to vote for you. so i did, i actually 24 hours

later literally got to say that to her face and it was wonderful. >> what did she say back? >> she gave me a hug and i think she was very grateful. >> what else did she say? i'm going to pull this out of you margot, a lot of people are wondering how she's doing. >> people probably think we had a deep conversation but you snow she was on a nice peaceful hike with her husband. she was doing exactly what i was doing and i think she wanted to clear her head and just enjoy nature so we didn't really have this very deep political conversation. i was with my little girl who is the cutest thing in the universe and so obviously she asked about my daughter and how old she was and her name and she asked about my dog and where i was where and it was very cordial, very plit conversation, just very sweet and comfortable.

>> the photo itself, two women cheek to cheek, broad smiles, i don't know if that's her dog or your dog. >> that was her dog. >> now that you've had a beat to appreciate this moment, when you look at this photo, what do you think. >> i think it's -- i mean not to use a cliche word but i think it's awesome. i was truly honestly really proud to vote for her. i have a hometown pride being from chappaqua but it was more than that this is the first woman to be nominated in a major party, an incredibly qualified strong woman and she's somebodisomebody i admire and the fact that i was with my daughter, that's incredible. she's too young to understand it but i get to talk to her about this one day and she her this and i can only hope that she's

as proud and excited as i was it was a really special moment and especially coming out of the day before. it was a very dark day for me personally and i think for a lot of people. and, you know, when i posted this picture the intent behind it was honest ly to give people hope and maybe make them feel happy for a moment because that's how i felt. i went hiking because i was sad and i just wanted to clear my head and there's really no better way to do that, in my opinion, than taking a nice hike with your kid. and to get to see her and tell her all of this was pretty amazing. >> final question. you mentioned the word "hope." after your special moment and with this precious baby phoebe, are you hopeful for this

country? >> yes, i have to be. because, look, things did not turn out the way that i expected or necessarily wanted but this is a wonderful country and i'm proud to be an american and, you know, did i vote for donald trump? no, but he is the president and i have to be hopeful that he will do as good a job as he can possibly do and that hopefully things don't fall apart, that's all i can do, i don't know enough about politics to make crazy judgment calls, all i know is that i'm -- i am hoping for the best and that's all i can do. i'm a mom of a beautiful little girl and i want her to grow up in a country that supports her and makes her feel like she can do anything. >> we all want that for everyone's little ones and for the rest of us, what a story you

will get to tell her one day. margot, thank you so much for hopping on the phone, appreciate it. >> of course, thank you. back to breaking news, busy day at trump tower, manhattan. what we're learning about the trump cabinet taking shape and who might be made chief of staff. and what trump just said on compromising on parts of obamacare. back in a moment. will your business be ready when growth presents itself? american express open cards can help you take on a new job,

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from this interview that president-elect trump just did with the "wall street journal." you know as we've been covering his campaign for 18 or so months one of the main refrains from mr. trump has been on day one if he is elected and sits in the building behind me that he will repeal and replace obamacare and now it sounds like from the interview that may not be the case entirely so let's go to our chief political analyst gloria borger. gloria, this stunning stuff from this interview where he is saying perhaps he'd consider leaving parts of obamacare. >> well, these are the prohibitions that are politically popular and it doesn't surprise me, by the way, that the president mentioned this to him the other day because when trump came out he said i heard about some great achievements is from the president and i think what he was doing was making the case as -- by the way, some

republicans have done -- that you need to keep the provisions on pre-existing conditions so that people, for example, who have cancer or some other serious illness would be able to get health insurance and that is a part of obamacare and then the other thing is to keep your adult children up to the age of 26 on your health care plan before they get settled and get a job where they should have their own health care insurance. these are two very popular provisions that would cause the republicans some difficulty if they were repeal sod what the president said to the "wall street journal" according to this piece is that either obamacare will be amended, repealed or replaced. well amended was not part of the campaign platform but i don't find this surprising because of the political implications it

would have for republicans if you took away those provisions. >> i think you're right, according to this interview, that this came from that meeting in the oval office from yesterday, gloria borger, we'll look for you later, thank you so much. >> sure. >> on this veterans day, just want to move along, on this veterans day many servicemen and women wondering what a trump presidency will look like. we'll discuss with very special guests coming up.

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service men and women are wondering what will a trump presidency look like? founder of executive director of iava and ken fisher. not for profit organization that constructs comfort homes for families of hospitalized military personnel and veterans. and he was the 2016 civilian leadership honoree at the iaba gala last night. fellas, i'm sorry i couldn't make it. i've been busy in washington. i appreciate all that you do for our amazing men and women in uniform. let mel just begin with you, paul. i'm sitting here in washington, i'm thinking about the white house, president-elect trump. we know he thanked veterans late this morning in a tweet. gave a lot of lip service over the course of the campaign about his concern for veterans. what indication do you have that he's sincere? >> well, we'll find out in the next four years. the talking is easy.

veterans have had lip service from both parties for generations, the hard work of getting things done as alluded more presidents. it's veteran's day, day is a time for unity, help america heal after a an election. we think they can be an example. candidacy, now we to want see it be a priority for his presidency and american heros who bring people together and the great example of what we can't accomplish. we put the politics aside and focus on our veterans. >> tell us about fisher house. >> fisher house offers a home away from home for families of sick or injured or wounded service men and women to stay in at no charge for as long as they need to, as long as the hospital stay dictates. we have our other initiatives call hero miles, hotels for heroes, just offshoot some of the program and scholarship programs as well. >> that's awesome. it's awesome. paul, what is one of the first

moves? i mean, in this next administration, you know all of the veterans issues. this is your job. what is an indication that you could see for the next president to really fight for these folks you work with and for? >> well time, focus, and budget are going to be a reflection of the new president's priorities. i think he should come out of the gate immediately and focus on veterans. it's a popular issue. he rannen to. and i think he'll see a lot of bipartisan support. we've seen that in the past. it's a great way to start. and to assemble a team from all different backgrounds that can united and focussed. it's a great way for civilians to get involved. we honor kenny because he's not a veteran, a civilian who stepped forward to support our veterans and honor our veterans. he's an example for the president, but all americans. we'd love to see him start january off right at inauguration with our veteran's first. >> ken, congratulations for being honored last night. paul, thank you so much, my friend for joining me.

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