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tv   State of the Union With Jake Tapper  CNN  November 13, 2016 9:00am-10:01am PST

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president-elect trump heads to the white house after an earthquake election few expected. >> now it's time for america to bind the wounds of division. >> some say not so fast. as protesters take to the streets in uproar. >> not my president! >> what will donald trump's america and his white house look like? top adviser and potential cabinet pick rudy giuliani will be here. plus, trump made big campaign promises from obamacare -- >> repealing and replacing
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obamacare. >> -- to immigration. >> there will be no amnesty. >> and of course -- >> we will build a great wall. >> but he seems to be already backing off some of his signature lines. what will really get done? and can he work with congress? an exclusive interview with house speaker paul ryan. plus, clinton concedes. >> this is not the outcome we wanted or we worked so hard for. >> as democrats lick their wounds. >> i'm not going to sugar-coat it. these have been very, very tough days. >> should they have seen it coming? michael moore did. what he says liberals must do now. plus, the best political minds will be here with insights on this historic election. hello, i'm jake tapper in washington where the state of our union is in transition. donald trump is now president-elect trump and the
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world is watching with baited breath to see just what he has in store for america. protests against his election, of course, continued this weekend across the country, most of them peaceful, although the mayor of portland, oregon, is asking protesters to stand down in wake of violence against police in that city. there are some reports of violence against trump supporters in connecticut. two men were arrested for allegedly beating a man holding a trump sign. meanwhile, civil rights groups in school districts across the country report an uptick in incidents of intimidation and harassment of minority groups an girls an women. graffiti in north carolina reads, black lives don't matter and neither does your vote. this was wript in a high school bathroom in minnesota. tensions are high. and tempers are flaring across the concern. the country, of course, may be divided, but the government in washington, d.c. is not. republicans now control the u.s.
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house, the u.s. senate, and soon the white house. so what is on the trump agenda and how quickly can it get done? joining me from janesville, wisconsin, house speaker paul ryan. speaker, thanks so much more joining us. before we begin talking about legislation and moving forward, i'm just wondering, there are millions of americans out there as i'm sure you know who are frankly terrified about what this america under president trump will mean for them. is there anything that you, as speaker of the house, one of the leaders of the nation, want to say to them? >> sure. first of all, i hate it that people feel this way. and second of all, they should not. i think people should be rest assured. america is a mrpluralistic, inclusive country. it is and it will continue to be. i think people should put their
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minds at ease. we're going to get to work on solving the big country's problems, getting this economy growing, fixing our national security, you know, fixing our health care problems, getting our budget put together. the things that we've been talking about. so i think people should just really put their minds at ease. we are pluralistic, we're inclusive, that's the kind of country we are, we want, and the country we're still going to have. >> but just to accept and acknowledge that there are these incidents taking place all over the country -- >> first, yeah, i heard your lead-in there. that's terrible. that's awful. by the way, that's not republicans. we are the party of lincoln. people who espouse those views are not republicans. we don't want them in our party if they're thinking about it. i'm confident donald trump feels the same way. there's no place for that. as long as protests are peaceful, if people want to express themselves that way, that's what we can do in this country, what the first amendment is all about. >> let's move forward to the action items. obviously repealing and replacing station obamacare is one of the big items that president-elect trump and you want to tackle.
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president-elect trump said there are elements of obamacare he wants to keep. that is what he to say to "60 minutes." take a listen. >> let me ask you about obamacare, which you say you're going to repeal and replace. when you replace it, are you going to make sure that people with preconditions are still covered in. >> yes. because it happens to be one of the strongest assets. >> now, your better way agenda talks about spending $25 billion on high-risk pools that would help those with preexisting conditions afford insurance. where would that $25 billion come from? >> well, we actually have it paid for in our bill. you really want me to give you a technical answer to this? it gets a little technical. the point is, we have in our plan pay for doing that. here's the bigger point, jake. we agree. it's in our plan. donald trump agrees with this. we need to have a solution for people with preexisting conditions. in our plan is also allowing younger people up to the age of
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26 to stay on their parents' plans. so there are aspects we've all along agreed to. >> under obamacare, as you know, millions of people were able to get health insurance for the first time through the expansion of medicaid. what is going happen to those people? will they lose coverage under your plan? >> well, what i encourage people to do is go to it's number five on our plan. we put the most detail of anybody that puts out a obamacare replacement plan. and it is to have an answer for everyone with preexisting conditions, people that are uninsured. the point i would say is this, jake. we could have a health care system in america where everyone, regardless of income or health condition, can get affordable health insurance, affordable health care. this is what we propose. we think a patient-centered system is what we need. you can do that without a costly government takeover like obamacare that is kraifrpgingcrp
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premiums that is making deductibles so high, doesn't feel like you have health insurance. obamacare is failing, it must be replaced, we're going to do this, we're excited and it. and the point i would put people's minds at ease. we can fix these problems. question fix what was broken in health care without breaking what was working in health care and that's what we're proposing. if you want to get any level of details, go to better gop and see what we've already offered. >> as you know, the medicaid expansion is providing government-paid health insurance to individuals. i mean, that's what it does. so if you repeal obamacare, does it repeal also the medicaid expansion, or would that part of it stay? >> for example, we propose to replace that with refundable tax credits for people to buy affordable health care insurance. so the kinds of reforms that we're talking about will lower the cost of the insurance itself and then a person would have, such as our proposal calls for, a refundable tax credit, like a voucher to go buy health insurance that is much more affordable and more importantly, you get to buy what you want to do buy, not what the government is making you buy.
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>> obamacare also provides birth control for women at no cost. is that going to end or remain? >> look, i'm not going to get into the nitty-gritty details of these things. >> with all due respect, i don't know that the average woman of childbearing years who relies upon contraception provided by health insurance mandated by the affordable care act, i don't know that she would think that she would think that's a nit nitty-gritty details. >> you're asking -- >> well, what do you think, is it important to you? >> you're asking me about details about legislation that hasn't been written yet. >> would that be a principle of whatever replaces it? >> i'm not going to get into hypotheticals about legislation that hasn't even been draft yet. >> let me ask you a question about improving security at the border. you and donald trump both agree you want to improve security at the border. you obviously have different views when it comes to the 10 million to 11 million undocumented immigrants currently living in the united states. this is what you said back in april at georgetown university. >> i'm a person who believes that for the undocumented we have to come up with a solution that doesn't involve mass
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deportations. that involves people to get right with the law to come and earn legal status while we fix the rest of illegal immigration. >> now take a listen to president-elect trump said on "morning joe" last year. >> we're going to have a deportation force. and you're going to do it humanly mainly. >> how are you going to pay for this? are they going to get ripped out of their homes? how? >> they're going back where they came. if they came from a certain country, they're going to be brought back to that country. that's the way it's supposed to be. >> so congress writes the laws and controls the pursestrings, is there going to be mass deportation or not? and this isn't just a nitty-gritty detail, there are millions of people who are very worried about this. >> sure. sure. and i think we should put people's minds at ease. that is not what we're focus is. that's not what we're focused on. we're focussed on securing the border. we think that's first and foremost before we get into any other immigration issue, we've got to know who's coming and going in the country. we've got to secure the border. we believe an enforcement bill,
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border security enforcement bill is really the first priority. that's what we're focused on. >> it's not a top priority mass deportation. but obviously president-elect trump believes it is. >> no. securing the border is our priority. >> what about in year two, year three, year four? >> we're not focused on -- we are not planning on erecting a deportation force. donald trump's not planning on that. >> let me ask you, does the fact that hillary clinton won the popular vote, does that impact in any way your sense of mandate or how far you should be willing to go, considering that the woman who lost actually got more votes? >> i'd say two things. look at the expectations going into this. look at what all public polling said. look at what all the prognosticators were saying like the day of the election. he beat all the odds. i think what people need to stop doing is underestimating donald trump. a lot of us did that. i think he's very etch with the mind-set there's a need to unite
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this country. to heal the division in this country, but also there's a mandate and a desire and a commitment to fix the problems as we've laid the solutions out. so we all laid out very concrete solutions for why we need to get this country back on track. we're now going to implement those solutions. we think this is good. we think this will help people get out of poverty. we think this is going to grow the economy. make our country more secure, make our border secure. help the military go on offense against isis. clean up the red tape that is strangling small businesses so they can hire people again. these are good things that we have in store that we're really excited about getting to work on doing for the american people. >> one of the things that you don't mention, and i can certainly understand why when you talk about the path forward, with president-elect trump, is one of the biggest differences between yourself and donald trump policywise having to do with the issue with trade. in his contract with the american voter he promised in the first 100 days to establish tariffs.
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will you pass those tariffs in your first 100 days? >> well, i think there's a better way of dealing with that particular issue, and if you go to number six on our better way agenda and look at the tax reform, this is something that donald also talked about during the campaign, which is to fix our taxes on border adjustments which we believe is a smarter way, which is what all the other countries do, which is not tariffs, not trade wars. so we think there are better ways of dealing with making american products and workers more competitive and really it's fixing our tax code. >> throughout the campaign as you know, president-elect trump talked about tariffs that could be as high as 35%, 45%. if he comes to you and says, this is what we're doing, what are you going say? >> the point i'm trying to make is i think we can achieve what he's trying -- he's trying to make america more competitive. he's trying to make the american worker more competitive so that american businesses stay in america. and we believe the smartest and best way to do that is comprehensive tax reform, which actually makes america
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much more competitive, without any adverse effects, without any collateral damage to the economy. >> a minute ago you were talking about how donald trump, the president-elect, expressed concern to you or expressed his desire to unify the country. on that note, i want to turn to staffing the trump white house, a lot of people including a lot of conservatives are concerned that steve bannon who is the ceo of the trump campaign and the chief executive of breitbart news, that he used breitbart news to -- their view, the view of conservatives, the view of republicans, to mainstream white supremacist views, anti-semitic views, racist views, do you have any concerns about steve bannon being in the white house? >> no. i've never met the guy. i don't know steve bannon, i have no concerns -- i trust donald's judgment, i think he's going to pick who he thinks will best serve him and i'm sure we will work well with whoever his chief of staff is, whoever his
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staff is. i think donald will have a great set of choices to make regarding staffing. i'm also very encouraged by the fact that my friend, great conservative, a man whose shown he's a true leader, mike pence, is going to run the transition team. i think between pence running the transition team -- look, donald is a multibillionaire who's had lots of companies and run extremely successful businesses. he's staffed up, run major organizations. he's a successful person. he surrounds himself with successful people. so i'm confident he's going to do the same here. >> you sound very optimistic and positive about him, but during the campaign, you said that one of the things he said about the judge fit the textbook definition of racism. >> look, i'm not going to relitigate the past, i'm looking for the future. when i talk about unifying, i'm talking about getting people back to work, fixing welfare to people can go from welfare to work, replacing this horrible health care law that is really
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hurting families, putting health care providers out of business. and replacing it with patient center and health care. rebuilding the national security so we're safe again. cleaning out the regulatory state. these are all good things for our country that we are now working on putting in place a plan to do just that. that's transformational, that's positive, that's good. >> the pride of janesville, house speaker paul ryan, thank you so much for joining us. we appreciate it. >> thank you jake, take care. >> the trump transition team has been huddled inside trump tower all weekend as they work to create administration, cabinet nominees, white house staff. kellyanne conway saying that trump's choice for chief of staff is imminent. that and other picks could tell us a lot about how president-elect trump plans to govern. let's talk about the trump administration with top adviser rudy giuliani who is himself rumored to be a contender for several top jobs. mr. mayor, thanks for joining us. and congratulations. >> thank you, jake. thank you very, very much jake. >> i know you're not going to
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answer about what jobs you're being considered for. let me just set that aside. there's a big issue -- >> thank you. >> there's a big issue at play here as you prepare for the trump administration. i know you're more than cognizant of the fact that donald trump has hundreds of millions, if not billions, of dollars in business interests around the nation and the world. during the campaign he was asked what he would do with his businesses if he won. take a listen. >> if i become president, i couldn't care less about my company. it's peanuts. i have ivanka and erik and don sitting there. run the company, kids. have a good time ie. i'm going to do it for america. >> so you'll put your assets in a blind trust. >> i would put it in a blind -- well, if ivanka, don, and eric run it, is that a blind trust? i don't know. >> i'll answer that question. that's not a blind trust. if your kids run your businesses, it's not a blind trust. in a blind trust there's an independent trustee who takes over your portfolio and directs
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it without your input or anyone around you. do you think that to avoid any conflicts of interest, not to mention questions by the public a to whether he's making decisions at least in part for his own financial reasons, do you think it would be better to settle up a blind trust with no involvement from him or his kids? >> well, first of all, you realize that those laws don't apply to the president, right? the president doesn't have to have a blind trust. for some reason, when the law was written, the president was exempt. i think he's in a very unusual situation. he would basically put his children out of work and they'd have to start a whole new business, and that would set up the whole -- set up new problems. so it would seem to me that if he set up a situation in which the children were running it, there was a legal or clear document that meant that he would not be involved, he would have no interest in it, he would have no input into it, he would
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just have a passive interest, that would be the kind of thing that would work here. it's kind of unrealistic to say you're going to take the business away from the three people who are running it and give it to some independent person. and remember, they can't work in the government because of the government rule against nepotism so you'd be putting them out of work. so i think you're going to have to fashion something that is very comfortable, something that's fair, something that assures the american people, as he said, he has no interest in what's going on in the business. and that his children get to run the business they know how to run. >> right. >> and stay out of all government matters. >> but mr. mayor, his children, as i don't need to tell you, they are a huge part of his advisory committee. they are advising the transition. ivanka, don jr. and eric. jared kushner, ivanka's husband is being talked about as coming on board and working in the white house even if he's not
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paid for it. if he does not set up a truly blind trust, how can the american people have confidence that when he makes a decision that he isn't at least partly making it to enrich himself? >> well, even if he turned it over to an independent trustee and it was the trump corporation, you can't -- i mean, there's no perfect way to do this. you have to have some confidence in the integrity of the president. the man is an enormously wealthy man. i don't think there's any real fear or suspicion that he's seeking to enrich himself by being president. if he wanted to enrich himself, he he wouldn't have run for president. i think there can be a way to do this. and by the way, jared kushner has his own company, completely independent of trump, that is a very, very successful real estate company. he's maybe, you know, one of the biggest in new york.
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so jared is a kind of different situation. >> well, i'll just say this, and then you can dismiss it as you want. i'm putting a flag in it right now, if a blind trust is not set up, this is going to be an issue for donald trump for the duration of his presidency because every decision he makes, whether it's the pipeline in north dakota or business relationships in turkey, everything is going to be under the lens of, well, what is the effect of this on his wealth and his family's wealth? i get that you think that that's not a consideration or not a serious -- >> no, no, no. what i'm telling you is the blind and trust solution isn't much better. meaning, an independent trustee would run it and any decision that he made, even if he didn't know it, that helped him, somebody would run it down and say, oh, my goodness, he may have made it for that reason. so blind trusts aren't perfect either. it's a special kind of
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situation. >> i think it's far better than people in his family advising him and then also working on his business. >> they're not -- once he gets into government, they will not be advising him. there will have to be a wall between them with regard to government matters. and something i'm very familiar with from my days in the justice department, which is recusing yourself from decisions that involve you or any financial matter involving you. >> all right. well, if you thought the issues between the clinton foundation and hillary clinton's state department were big, fasten your seat belts. let's move on. mr. trump shook up the republican primary. >> oh, i think, jake, that's a very unfair suggestion. there you were talking about enormous amounts of cash. i'm counting about up to about 230 million that went for specific actions like talking to the irs. i don't see that happening in a
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trump administration. this man didn't run for president because he wants to get rich. he's rich already. so i don't think you're going to have that happen unless you try to make it happen. >> all right. mr. trump shook up the republican primary back in december when he made this promise. take a listen. >> donald j. trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is doing on. >> so just a simple question, is that policy still operative? >> well, you know, twice you used things he changed during the campaign. he did say that. that is correct. actually, within a day or two of his saying that, he called me and asked me to put a little group together that included congressman mccaul, general
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flynn -- i can't remember who else. a few other people. we wrote a paper for him, and he amended it to the ban would be restricted to particular countries, and it wouldn't be a ban, it would involve extreme vetting. the one place in which he would not let anyone in unless it was an extraordinary circumstance would be syrian refugees. all the rest from countries that contain dangerous populations of radical islamic extremists, he'll subject them to extreme vetting but not a ban. so he said that about a hundred times during the campaign from the time he made that statement. he's dialled back. >> let's talk about what you're talking about specifically
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mr. trump wanting to suspend immigration from terror-prone regions where vetting can not safely occur and extreme vetting. back in june when senator jeff sessions, strong supporter and advisor of president-elect trump when senator session was on the program, he identified six countries that might fall into that category, pakistan, egypt, syria, iraq, afghanistan, and yemen. so now that mr. trump has been elected president, can you tell us if those are the six countries that will see a suspension of immigration? >> well, i would say that those countries are certainly countries where we would have to be very careful. now, let's take egypt, for example. egypt we could probably do some pretty good vetting. the cc government is a strong ally. it has a pretty good hold on the muslim brotherhood. i'm not saying perfect, but they've done a lot of work in reducing the power of the muslim brotherhood. they have a very, very mature and really strong army. you could do vetting in egypt. yemen, a lot more volatile, a lot more difficult to do vetting.
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so i think this is going to be a country-by-country decision. pakistan you can do pretty good vetting. so a lot of this is going to depend on, you know, how cooperative is the country we're talking about? how many records can we get? the reason the syrian problem is so bad, the syrian refugees, it's not just if you can't vet them which actually director comey and i think about five members of the obama administration have made clear, that you can't vet these people, these refugees from syria. the problem also is that baghdadi has said he is going to put terrorist operatives in with the refugee population. he's told us he's going to do this. >> right. >> so we would be foolish to allow these people to come into the united states. we're sort of being warned that he's bringing more people in to attack us. we already have 1,000 investigations of radical
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islamic terrorists in the united states. we can't add another whole group to that. >> i want to ask you, russia's deputy foreign minister was quoted as saying that the russian government maintained contacts with members of trump's, quote, immediate entourage during the presidential campaign. what can you tell us about those contacts? >> i know of no such contacts with the russian government. i was pretty deeply involved in the campaign. i was with donald trump, you know, day and night for about a hundred days, actually, at one period. so if that's going on, it's going on somewhere where i didn't see it. it is true that i think donald trump wants to engage russia in areas where we can work together in a way that hillary clinton and john kerry and barack obama failed to do. but, remember, he's going to do
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it from a different point of view. you're forgetting his campaign promise of increasing dramatically the size of the military and doing away with the sequester. we're going to go up to 550,000 troops. we were going down to 420,000. >> let me ask you a quick question about troops. >> we're going to go up to 350,000 troops, let me finish, we're going to go up to 1,200 modern aircraft and increase the size of the marines from about 27 battalions to 36. so he's going to be facing, putin, with a country that is not diminishing it's military but a country that is dramatically increasing it to reagan-like levels so that he can negotiate -- and he talked about this a lot during the the campaign.
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he's going to negotiate for peace, but with strength. not diminishing army. >> a spokesman for putin said that one of the first things that trump can do as president is to convince nato to pull back troops from near the russian border, do you have any idea if any decision has been made along those lines? . >> no. no decision like that has been made, thought about, in fact, during the campaign, donald trump talked about forward positioning of some troops in nato as kind of a bargaining chip with some of the nato countries that are not putting in their fair share, their 2%. >> okay. >> and i think you're going see something something more like that. i think a president trump would want to increase the impact of nato but make sure that these countries are participating. you know, when we were fighting in iraq and we had some of these countries participating, their armies weren't fighting. they were watching us, the uk, and canada fight, and they were just observing. well, it can't work that way. you've got to be full
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participants, and we have to be full participants. >> mr. mayor, thank you so much and congratulations again. >> thank you. donald trump used the power of social media to help propel him into the white house. he instantly was able to fight back against critics, reporters, even members of his own party if they challenged him. which begs the question, what will president trump's twitter feed look like? we now have his answer. >> i'm going to be very restrained if i use it at all. i'm going to be very restrained. i find it tremendous. it's a modern form of communication. there should be nothing you should be ashamed of. it's where it's at. i do believe this. i really believe that the fact that i have such power in terms of numbers with facebook, twitter, instagram, et cetera, i think it helped me win all of these races where they're spending much more money than i spent. and i won. >> president obama is going to have to hand over the @potus twitter handle to president-elect trump.
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what should we expect from @potus when he enters the white house? joining me now is our panel. republican national committee chief strategist sean spicer, sarah murray, knee area malik henderson and congressman javier of california. it was reported that some of president-elect trump's top aides had to wrest his phone away from him was to not have a sudden outburst in the middle of the night or whatever. what do you see going forward for the potus account? >> well, i think there's always a transition from campaigning to governing. you've seen it both with his speech wednesday morning when he accepted that victory that he won through the american people and then his comments when he was in washington, d.c., with the president and others. he understands that, he understands the role of the president and the words that he uses and the tweets that he sends will impact the country in a much different way than they do during a campaign. >> good enough for you, congressman?
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>> no, no. because we've heard all sorts of words from donald trump. as a candidate, you can say all you want. as a president, one word you say can affect not just markets but the american people. so interest rates have already spiked. they're not sure what's going to happen in the markets and so today if you try to buy a house as an american it costs you more for the mortgage than it did two weeks ago. so it will make a difference what he says, more importantly what he does. >> sarah, you covered trump for the last year and a half. he has, since winning, there has been one kind of stray tweet in which he got mad at protesters and then i don't know what happened behind the scenes, but then he corrected and celebrated their right to protest. how do you see this holding, this quote unquote presidential trump? >> he's already tweeting this morning attacks at the "new york times". i think the notion that all the sudden donald trump has woken up and realized that his words carry a lot more weight doesn't always stand.
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i think there are aides around him who remind him that you need to recalibrate your tone. i think that's what we saw from the two different tweets about protesters, one going after them and then one saying i love to see passionate people expressing their belief. that to me was a good indication that someone talked to him and said words matter more now. but the fact is, he still does have control of his twitter, and there doesn't seem to be anyone who's sitting with him this morning. so i think it still is an open question about how he behaves and if he does realize that there are millions and millions of people following him there and there will be be even more once he takes over the potus handle. >> this seems very silly on its face, but i mean it seriously. do you think -- obviously there were tweets sent out under his name by him and ones sent out by his campaign, you could actually tell which ones were which. do you think it is up to kellyanne conway or whomever in his inner circle to change his password so he no longer has access to his twitter feed? >> you know, you would hope something like that happens. i don't even know the way in
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which he tweets if he's just firing them off, dictating them to someone else. but this is going to be a problem. primarily because donald trump has made the best argue the for why he should keep tweeting in the same way, and that is, oh, he won. and it didn't harm him throughout the primaries and didn't harm him in the general election. he believes it's helped him. and i also think, if you look at the people who support donald trump, they like that bombast. they like that rhetoric. they like the fact that he isn't some sort of pc blow-dried politician. so in that way, i think it's going to be hard to wrest not only the twitter account from him but the way he engages with the public, the media, the way he engages with his own party and the folks he doesn't like, it's ted cruz or ted cruz's wife or whoever. i think this is going to be an issue and i'm not so sure it's going to be we see another donald trump once he assumes the office. >> sarah, we were talking before the show how the trump people are constantly trying to act as
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though he didn't propose banning all muslims from entering the united states until -- a total complete shutdown until we figure out what the hell is going on. you heard mayor giuliani say basically he walked that back, though you know he described it as an expansion. take a look at what president-elect trump had to say about the issue just a few days ago. >> are you going to ask congress to ban muslims? >> thank you, everyone. >> so where is this policy? >> that's a great question. i think this is going to be a question for a lot of donald trump's policies because he put a lot out there on the campaign trail that he didn't necessarily flesh out entirely and he would sort of walk back at points and then double down at points. that's what we saw with the muslim ban. the last thing we heard from donald trump was that when he talked about extreme vetting which at times included a religious test, that to him was an expansion of the muslim ban. but i think we saw the same thing when you talked to paul
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ryan about the notion of a deportation force and donald trump on a deportation force. maybe they're not calling it a deportation force anymore. maybe that's not what donald trump's calling it, but he has called for 5,000 additional border control agents. he has talked to tripling the number of i.c.e. officers. there is certainly bolstering of the forces that would allow for increased deportations, which is something donald trump promised. i think everyone is kind of waiting to see how these things donald trump talked about on the campaign trail will turn into actual policy when he's in the white house and dealing with capitol hill. >> there does seem to be, sean, a certain degree of people who are within the trump orbit acting as though he didn't make certain proposals during the campaign that are on videotape or on the donald just tr. trump website. i mean, why is it an unreasonable question to ask if the muslim ban is actually going to happen? >> it's not an unreasonable question. but i think there's going to be a time between now and january
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20th where he will assemble a team and his priorities of how he's going to get things done. he's got to work with congress. i think those conversations that started the other day have to continue in terms of, this isn't a dictatorship, it's a democracy. we work with the house and the senate. he will continue those discussions with speaker ryan and mcdonnell to lay out the priorities of the sequencing but also the details of the policies. >> congressman, i touched on this at the beginning of the show with speaker ryan, about the fears that many americans feel. you represent a district with a large latino population in california. what are people feeling in your district? >> i've heard everything from kids afraid to go to school because they're not sure their parents will be home when they get there. i've heard some families talk about not going to work. i've heard some people afraid to walk the streets because they may look like they're muslim. i've heard everything. and there is a great deal of apprehension. be a great time right now, prime time now for donald trump, great
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time to get out there and say some words that would calm people to make sure everyone feels comfortable to go out, whether it's to dmron straight civilly or to just go to school. but this is prime time now, and donald trump's words will make a big difference because so much of his talk during the campaign was so harsh and for many people frightening. >> nia malik, this is from york, pennsylvania, where students were caught on camera holding a trump sign while another shouted white power. >> white power. >> white power. >> so that's, it's a loop of some sort. but in any case, there's an investigation going on there, minority students say they've experienced more harassment since this election started. as i mentioned at the top of the show, there's been violence against trump supporters. but in the schools of america, anecdotally, there seems to be a lot of this. do you think that president-elect trump and in
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addition perhaps even president obama and hillary clinton have a an obligation to come out and try to calm things? >> i think they do. you heard some of that from donald trump in his wednesday morning address where he talked about binding america's wounds. and you heard that from also paul ryan talking about the republican party being the party of lincoln and being and inclusive party. i do think it's incumbent on donald trump to shift his rhetoric, to continue the rhetoric about unity. i do think he probably is a steeper heel to climb. i think plainly, there are a lot of mompreneurs -- americans who think that donald trump is a bigot. and they don't think he's a bigot because they have any prejudged notion about a republican president, they think that because of some of the things he said during the campaign. so the question is, can he give a sort of bob dole speech, the kind of speech at the 1996 convention where he said, we're not a party of racists, talking about republicans, can he give that speech? and will people believe him? i think that's the question. you know, i've heard from
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friends, too. i have a friend who is a middle school teacher. he said the latino students were lined up at his door wednesday morning. some weren't even his students. they were incredibly afraid about what this president would look like and mean for them and families. >> a big challenge for president elect trump going forward. thank you so much. coming up protests against donald trump's election continue across the country this weekend. on the front lines of trump tower, michael moore who predicted a trump win. he'll be here live, next. and why a leading car brand counts on us to keep their dealer network streamlined and nimble. businesses count on communication, and communication counts on centurylink. about tempur-pedic mattresses... is that they contour to your body.
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welcome back to "state of the union." i'm jake tapper. in the days since her defeat by donald trump, hillary clinton has been pretty busy. she was spotted walking her dog in the woods of chappaqua. she handed out thousands of red roses to her campaign staff to thank them. and she at least partially pinned the blame for her loss on the fbi director. clinton telling donors on a conference call yesterday that the first letter released by director comey stopped the momentum she had built after the debates and the release of trump's "access hollywood" tape and that it was too much for her to overcome. let's talk about that and much more with filmmaker michael moore who tried to warn his fellow democrats of a trump win
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on this show, on his blog and elsewhere. thanks for joining us, michael. >> thanks for having me, jake. >> what do you make of hillary clinton telling donors that fbi director comey is at least largely to blame for her loss? do you agree? is she in denial? what's your take? >> i think it's part of it, absolutely. and i've actually called upon president obama to appoint a special prosecutor as soon as possible to investigate how it is that the fbi director was able to interfere with an election, which i believe is not legal, and help to tip the balance in what was going to be a very close election. not only should people speak about it, it needs to be investigated. >> but let's talk about one of the other weaknesses clearly of her campaign which you were talking about months ago, which is the fact that there wasn't really any sort of direct economic outreach or plan to working class white voters in places like michigan where
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you're from. ed rendell, the former governor of pennsylvania telling "the new york times" that the clinton campaign failed to spread its vast resources outside philadelphia and pittsburgh. he wanted the clinton campaign doing more in the rural pockets of the state saying, quote, we had the resources to do both, coming from her campaign headquarters in brooklyn, didn't want to do it. do you think that this is also a large part of what happened? >> yes, i think that also is part of it. i think how many months was it before she hadn't been to wisconsin? i know she hadn't been to michigan much. there was a rush trip at the end there to grand rapids. but, you know, i mean, where i come from, where i live in michigan, we're used to both parties. the republican party, which controls the state house and the governor in michigan, has contributed to poisoning the people of flint. and still hasn't fixed the problem. so we're used to the treatment
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of that party. we're also used to the neglect, the benign neglect, from democrats or i should say the old-school democrats who basically once they get in have a hard time dealing with especially cities that have large minority populations or in the cases of say flint or detroit, these are majority black cities and they largely go unignored, they get a lot of lip service. and the funny thing is that donald trump kind of saw that and made that point, even though he will be the last person to detroit or flint to help and i think that the people that voted for him in michigan are going to again be up for another rude awakening when they realize he's going to not do a damn thing to make the situation better and probably will make it worse. >> obviously a lot of people who supported hillary clinton are trying to figure out how to deal with this new world order.
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opr oprah winfrey, for example, making headlines and angering comments that she made about trump and obama. take a listen. >> i just saw president-elect trump with president obama in the white house, and it gave me hope. >> good. >> it gave me hope. i mean, i have to say, just to hear president-elect trump say that he had respect for president obama, it felt that he had reached a moment where he was actually humbled by that experience. i think everybody can take a deep breath. >> what do you think? >> well, that's why we love oprah. somebody needs to say that. we do need hope. i was hopeful when i saw the two of them there because trump looked like he didn't belong there, and he felt so uncomfortable in his own skin sitting there in that chair. and obama i think we counted 15
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or 16 ums as he was trying to say something nice. look, that's the sideshow that has to happen in a week like this, but, frankly, you know, democrats would be better off if they ran oprah or tom hanks. why don't we run beloved people? we have so many of them. the republicans do this. they run reagan and "the terminator" and other people. why don't we run somebody that the american people love, that they are really drawn to and they're smart and have good politics and all that? why don't democrats do that? i'm telling you, jake, my sincere hope is that the dnc, that there is a clean sweep in this party. they all have to go, and they have to make room for the progressive democrats who are going to come in here and needed to fight the things that trump is going to do to the people of this country and the world.
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and we need young people and women and others who are going to really be the voice of this party. not the same old, same old. clearly, people wanted change. i think everybody's admitted that. and clearly bernie sanders represented that. and i was at the demonstration yesterday and there were trump people there on the sidewalk. and i went over and talked to them and i said, would you have considered voting for bernie sanders? they said yes, they were just mad at the system. >> well, let me ask you this, that's the big question, what do democrats do going forward, organizationally, do they double down on progressive views? the kind aspoused by bernie sanders? do they try to reach out to somebody who understands the working class white voters that voted for donald trump in droves, fight under way for the
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dnc chair, several people put their names out there. how do you think the party should go with? >> keith ellison. that is the exact way to go. that is the future. we live -- the fear that i think a lot of white voters have is that they know the truth, which is that as the census bureau says, before 2050, white people are going to be the minority in this country. for the last two septembers now, the majority of kindergartners entering school in america are not white. that's the new america, and we need to have a party that's going to represent the majority in the future and not the past. so i hope that that happens. but people need to be out in the streets and not -- it's not just about the white working class. right now all white people need to be concerned about how afraid muslims, african-americans, hispanics are right now. >> i need to cut you off, i'm sorry. >> i'm so sorry. i just wanted to make that appeal because i worry about what's ahead. >> a lot of people out there are worried. thank you so much, michael moore, we appreciate it. donald trump spent the last
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welcome back. president-elect trump is preparing for the oval office and his inauguration so what should we expect when he takes the oath? it's the subject of this week's "state of the cartoonian." as the returns came in election night, the nation began trying to envision exactly what a trump presidency might look like. >> congratulations, mr. president. >> 68 days from now, after all, mr. trump will be sworn in as the 45th president of the united states. ♪ o say does that star-spangled banner ♪ now, you can bet that beyonce will not be there serenading him on the steps of the capital as she did back in 2013. >> i don't need beyonce. >> you're more likely, in fact, to see trump supporter ted nugent. >> i got your blue state right here, baby. >> the fact that the inaugural parade usually heads straight down pennsylvania avenue from the capitol to the white house
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means the president-elect will march right by his new trump hotel. it's already sold out for inauguration day as the hotel website promises "washington will never be the same." thanks for watching. thanks for watching. "fareed zakaria gps" is next. -- captions by vitac -- including all tempur-pedic mattresses. save up to $600, now thru november 29th. get your tempur-pedic. the most highly recommended bed in america.
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this is "gps," the global public square. welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. i'm fareed zakaria coming to you live from new york. today we will, of course, tackle the stunning results of america's election. president-elect donald j. trump. >> i pledge to every citizen of our land that i will be president for all americans. >> just how did it happen? >> i'm sorry that we did not win this election. >> what does it mean for the


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