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election. four sitting u.s. senators, two republican, two democrats say every american should be alarmed. the group including republican senators john mccain and lindsey graham along with democratic senator chuck schumer and senator jack reed. they warned quote, this can not become a partisan issue, the stakes are too high for our country. senator mccain spelled out his concerns. >> it's clear the russians interfered. whether they intended to interfere to the degree that they were trying to elect a certain candidate, i think that's subject to investigation. the facts are stubborn things. they did hack into this campaign and the russians have interfered in a lot of other elections. the russians have hacked into some of our most secret military information. the russians have been active
using as a tool as part of vladmir putin's wanting to contain russian dominance in some part of the world. >> president-elect does not believe u.s. intelligence reports. here is what he said. >> i think it's ridiculous. i think it's another excuse. i don't believe it. they have no idea if it's russia or china or somebody. it could be somebody sitting in a bed some place. they have no idea. >> why would the cia put out this story that the russians wanted you to win? >> i'm not sure they put it out. i think the democrats are putting it out because they suffered one of the greate eses defeats in the history of politics in this country. >> ryan nobles is with me tonight outside of trump tower. what is expected from this bipartisan push? >> reporter: i think what is expected is a showdown. those two sound bites demonstrate it perfectly. you have a powerful group of
senators republicans and democrats who believe there's real problem here with russia's attempt to intervene in this election. then you have a president-elect who believes there's no problem at all. the incoming minority leader said he's not going to rest until there's a full investigation into there. listen to what he said there morning. >> the fact that the cia and fbi disagree shows the need for a bipartisan investigation that gets to the bottom of this. be investigation should be tough, strong and bipartisan and should have access to all materials classified and not. >> reporter: now, leading republicans like john mccain believe this is something that should benefit republicans too. he said if the russians are trying to get involved in the united states elections it's not that they prefer a particular party, they want to cause chaos and mess things up if it's republicans today. if it's demonstrate today it
could be republic -- if it's democrats today, it could be republicans down the road. this raises questions about how he views russia's role in the world and how it will impact the world when he becomes president-elect. this is poised to become a big issue for both sides to deal with as we deal with his getting closer to inauguration. >> it could be republicans being hacked tomorrow. that's what we heard from some prominent republicans about the campaign saying be careful to put so much weight on those. it could be us next. ryan nobles reporting for us live. thank you very much. in just 40 days donald trump will take the oath of office. let's talk about it with our panel. thank you all for being here.
kimberly, first of all congratulations on your new gig with the daily beast. so lucky to have you. let's jump right into this. you argue that trump has, in your words, declared war on leading intelligence agencies. really? >> that is how some current and former officers of the intelligence community feel. there's been a real visceral response that starting back in the fall, he rejected the director of national intelligence's assessment. general james clapper came out saying they believed with high confidence or with confidence that russia hacked the election or was trying to influence the election. now, he is responding to these anonymous quotes in the new york times and the washington post and were able to match it at the daily beast that the cia believes the republican national committee was hacked and that information wasn't released because they wanted to throw the
election towards trump and damage the clinton campaign. there's real shock in the cia. >> i should note that reince priebus did say on "meet the press" that the rnc was not hacked but clearly those are big disagreements on that one. jeffrey lord to you, doesn't this put mike pompeo in quite a precarious situation that the president-elect doesn't trust the veracity of the information coming from the cia. what does he do when he's leading it? >> you replace the director of the cia, which is in process, and the new head will take charge and investigation things.
>> that doesn't change the morale issue. that doesn't change what kimberly said how they feel. >> the new director can do that. you can go all the way back to the bay of pigs which was pressed on president kennedy by the then director of the cia and it was a big failure. he was fired and a new director was brought in and the agency was revamped. there's nothing unusual. i would hope if they want to get to the bottom they would investigate non-citizens showing up. >> what you're saying is really echoing what the president-elect said in his interview there weekend with chris wallace. you're saying whether it's
russian actors or a teenager in their basement in philadelphia, let's get it. do you really think there's an equal shot that it's a kid in his basement in philadelphia or someone acting on behalf of the kremlin? >> i think one of the hackers whether it was hillary was done from some kid in macedonia. we don't know. >> we do know what our intelligence officials say. they said back in october that russia did hack into affect the u.s. election. what's new is saying that there was an sbenintent, some officia believe tilting towards trump. >> i don't know. all i'm saying is let's get to the facts. let's be clear.
i mean i live here in pennsylvania. hillary clinton lost pennsylvania because she was hillary clinton. she didn't lose because it any russians hacking in here. she lost because she didn't appeal to the working folks here in pennsylvania. >> just to jump in. >> zeke, jump in. these are two different things blaming the loss of an election or being just concerned that an aggressive foreign actor would have their thumb on the scale. >> that's exactly right. both of these things can be true. hillary clinton lost this election in part because she was a bad candidate and made some strategic errors and tactical errors with her campaign. also, the intelligence community believes the russian government or elements were involved in hacking u.s. political entities and some elements of the intelligence community believe that was designed to help donald trump. both of those things can be true. the bigger issue is both the morale issue and he has a number
of nominations pending or intended nominees from to the director of the cia, director of the national intelligence, to his secretaries of state achbds attorney general. all of them will face questions about russia's role here. they're going to be testified under oath in front of the u.s. senate. the odds of them getting confirmed will be a lot harder considering the republican majority is 52 seats. this is a big issue for them. that's a big issue for donald trump. >> let me get your take on this because something else that stood out to me from the president-elect's interview is chris wallace question about these presidential daily briefings. we know the president-elect is getting one a week instead of them daily. he defended that here.
>> if something should change, call me. i don't have to be told the same thing and the same words every single day for the next eight years. >> many smart presidents get daily briefings. what's your take given all the connections in the intelligence community. is it not needed daily if the information if it's the same? >> there's a reason it's called daily. they present the most pressing threats that developed in the past 24 hours. it does evolve every day. it's not the same thing. what we're seeing is a rejection not just of business as usual but he further said in that interview that he'll talk to the
generals as opposed to talking to the intelligence community. i think we're seeing the influence of former defense intelligence agency director mike flynn who is his national security advisor who really butted heads with the cia, questioned their opinions on things, but if donald trump isn't going to receive those briefings and is relying more on what he hears from the pentagon, the question is where is the check and balance? >> to be clear -- >> the way it's designed is the pentagon and intelligence community have different opinions and the president supposed to listen to them. >> he's getting them weekly. president-elect back in 2012 when he was a businessman, not a politician he criticized then sitting president obama for exactly this. let me read you that tweet. priorities while fund raising and campaigning on our dime, obama has skipped over 50% of his intel briefings.
now he's doing the same thing. >> right. he's now the new president. i think he probably has a different set of judgments now that he's the new president. to be perfectly candid, least correct. you don't need to be told the same thing every day. the vice president is reading the same briefs. what you need is new information. if there's new information he said i'm ready in a minute's notice. just doing the same thing over and over and over again, i can tell you someone worked this the white house there is a sort of b beaurcracy. >> no. >> i know. i know it's a shock. >> thank you very much. >> my christmas wish is to have less of it. >> thank you all very much. we appreciate it. all right. let's have some fun.
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tonight based on your votes, one of these top ten heroes will be chosen as cnn's hero of the career continuing their life changing work. with less than two hours i want to get straight to tonight's co-host. anderson cooper join this year for the first time by the very beautiful kelly ripa. let's begin with you. you have presented three or four
times. i know it's meant a lot to you. how did anderson get you to share the gig with him tonight? >> i begged her. >> i mean anything he would ask of me i would do for him. he's one of -- anderson is one of my personal heroes. i just find every year this show because i've been watching it now for ten years to be the most fulfilling thing that you can do is to watch this show. it really inspires you to be a better person. to either support these charities or forge ahead. that's ha these cnn heroes do. i couldn't say no. that's for sure. >> it is every day heroes. anderson in our line of work it's not often that you get to dedicate an entire night to great news and to beautiful things happening from our neighbors and doing things. we night not dedicate so much time to. you hosted for ten years. what does it mean?
>> this whole heroes really came about from cnn reporters out in field. we would meet. incredible people don't fit into the story or what you're there for. you constantly are running into people who have seen in the community and don't have access to money or power but decide to open up their homes to those in need or whatever it is. that's how heroes begin. there should be a vehicle to highlight the works of these every day people who are really changing the world and so it's just been a tremendous honor to be part of it for ten years. we've not only given attention to people really deserving but it's not giving them large amounts of money but giving them a global platform and they can grow their foundations and the work they're doing. not only be honored to have kelly co-hosting with me but
we're brought back five past cnn heroes. one of them will be voted by our viewers tonight and voting is open right now at cnnheroes.com to be the super hero of the year. >> not only $100,000 to the top hero but a super heroes as well. kelly, tell us a little bit about some of the people that we're all going to be introduced to tonight, these honorees. what are their stories like? >> there's so many stories of inspiration. people that are really finding the need in their communities where there are -- there's so many people that have started martial arts and physical fitness platforms for children and people with disabilities. >> people taking care of aging dogs, finding homes for dogs that can't adopted. >> we're going to have a dog that's up for adoption on the stage. there's so many stories like
this. i want to echo what anderson was saying before i personally and i know so many of my friends that have gotten involved with the cnn heroes stories because we watched the show and we started supporting these organizations. it really is always, to me, extraordinary. we get very competitive with each other seeing whose hero will win this year. we always hope if you're a presenting like i've been for the past few years, you always want your hero to be the winner. >> in case anyone missed it, your mother-in-law, not in the audience, but she will be watching because she credits anderson a lot. she thinks he practically gave birth to these heroes. >> we sat next to each other and we were on the sofa. it's the first cnn heroes special. we were both sobbing from the
first hero to the end. she goes, kelly, you must thank anderson. i know he's your good friend, but he's bringing such light to these people. she really does believe that anderson did, in fact, give birth to the heroes, the cnn heroes movement. he does bring -- you are bringing so many stories of people that would not have a platform to have exposure like this. >> it's an honor. >> any insight? i'm going to run from the anchor desk over there. i'll be a little late tonight but i'll be there. any surprises coming on stage tonight? >> it's live tv. you never know. we've got a couple of surprises. we have some musical performances that will be great. you never know what these heroes will say. that's the highlight of the
night. it's great to have celebrities coming out to present the awards but the focus is on them. >> the thing is these are people that it's not based on box office or how many records you sold. these are people that are just giving to people of need in their communities and worldwide. it's a really feel good night. >> it's all up to viewers to decide who is the cnn hero of the year and the super hero of the year. >> where can you vote? >> cnnheroes.com. voting is still open up for that. >> kelly, waterproof mascara? >> always. i made a big fatal mistake, i'm wearing false eyelashes. i think they can wash away. >> why do you need false eyelashes? >> because they look amazing. we all wear them. >> okay. >> he doesn't know what i look like. he doesn't even any idea.
>> i walk into cnn with no makeup on and the security guards have no idea who i am. they are transformational. i tell you. >> they have no idea who i was tonight coming in here for rehearsal. none. >> there you go. all right. see you later. have a lot of fun. >> thanks. >> cnn all star tribute is tonight, 8:00 p.m. eastern. don't miss it. we'll be right back. where we explore. protecting biodiversity. everywhere we work. defeating malaria. improving energy efficiency. developing more clean burning natural gas. my job? my job at exxonmobil? turning algae into biofuels. reducing energy poverty in the developing world. making cars go further with less. fueling the global economy. and you thought we just made the gas. ♪ energy lives here.
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they work to push isis out of the city they claim as their capital. i want to show you something else in syria right now. a desperate mother clinging to her child. her newborn baby as she evacuates the city of aleppo. the baby girl was born seven days ago in the middle of a war zone. rebel forces are losing ground fast as regime air strikes pound aleppo. the baby girl's shaken mother spoke with our cnn fred. >> reporter: this is what rebel desperation looks like during the aleppo nights. this is what the rebels defeat look like when daylight comes. thousands of civilians fleeing the old town of aleppo only hours after government forces took most of it back. among them a woman with her seven children, one of them her
baby. when we left there was a lot of shelling behind us. a lot of shooting in front och us and the airplanes above us. we barely managed to get out. most seem weak and malnourished. some resting finding safety in this former school. the smallest, baby girl is only seven days old born right as the battles were at their worst. it's truly remarkable some of the scenes we're witnessing here. hundreds of people have already come across the border crossing between eastern and western aleppo. many are taking shelter in buildings like this one carrying only the very few possessions they could take as they fled. soldiers take us to the places they recaptured from opposition forces only hours before. we see syrian troops evacuating weak and elderly. rebel barricades showing how intense the fighting was. gist lo
just look at the destruction here. this entire area until a few days ago was right on the front line. while this may not be the end of the opposition's fight in alep po, many of those fleeing describe the morale sinking. we didn't have food and barely any bread this man says. they would only give us two loaves of bread every two days th that was it for all eight of us. the one thing expanding was the cemeteries. this one ran out of space as the bodies kept coming. now that much of eastern aleppo has changed hands, syrian soldiers plant their flag on the ruin of the place they just conqu conquered. >> it's incredible reporting. thank you very much for that. after the break back to politics. the leading contender for the country's next secretary of
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president-elect trump is getting close to nominating a secretary of state. the man they're looking at rex tillerson is the likely and leading pick. trump teasing a bit on twitter earlier today. whether he choose him or not he's a world class player and deal maker. stay tuned. tillerson has incredibly close ties through his business with russia. senator marco rubio tweeting being a friend of vladmir putin is not an attribute i'm hoping for in secretary of state. senator lindsey graham also speaking out telling the washington post i don't know if tillerson much at all but let's
put it this way, if you received an ward from the kremlin an order of friendship, then we're going have some talking. we'll have some questions but that's a bit unnerving. jeffrey, do you think rex tillerson is qualified to be secretary of state? would he be the best pick? >> that's a subjective question of the president-elect. one of the thing s that's going on here that doesn't get mentioned a lot is we have a battle between the political class in this country and the private sector. >> i'm asking your assessment as someone who was the political director in the reagan white house. >> of course he's qualified. >> what are his key qualifications?
>> he's run an international business. he knows most leaders than members of congress. of course he's qualified. they're saying his relationship with vladmir putin is suspect. let's just remember that secretary of state -- >> i'm not saying that. republican senator marco rubio is saying that. republican senator lindsey graham is calling it quote, unnerving. >> i understand this. did they support john kerry for secretary of state? this is a man who when he was a young man was out there, very well known in my day saying that communism was no longer a problem. he threw his metals over a fence in protest. did they vote for him for secretary of state? i don't know the answer but i suspect the answer was yes. >> zeke -- >> there's double standard here. >> let me get some of the other folks in here. zeke, when you look at the business dealings in russia that he's done while leading exxon, they sign this massive deal in
2011 and the man running the russian oil giant which they signed it with, here is what he said. he said that essentially bragged about the valuation of his companies soaring to $7 billion in five days. it shows that exxon's deal helped russia a lot. that's fine in business. it's different when you then take off the business hat and you become secretary of state because we know the sanctions against russia have really hurt exxon. they have costed a billion dollars according to regulatory filings and rex tillerson said we were excited to get back work. can he take off the ceo hat and put on the diplomacy hat and one doesn't effect the other? >> that remains to be seen. while my sources close to the transition say there's always chance until its formally throughout that he could go in
some other direction. assuming it's him. he's somebody who brings a will the of business connections and experience in the business world. he's been at exxon for 40 years. a lot of that time spent making deals overseas. donald trump sees a lot in common with him in that sense. it's not personnel. it's policy. it's almost like casting a cabinet. he looks the part for donald trump. the question that mr. tillerson will have to answer before the senate, before the republicans of the senate foreign relations committee is can he disassociate his business career from what he will do in government. there's no way for us to answer that. there's a lot of red flags with that potential nomination. he could have great answers but we don't know yet. >> betsy, i got one minute left to you. how tough would his confirmation be? you have two republicans questioning it. >> it would be really tough to get through the senate foreign
relations committee given there's some vocal critics of putin. his confirmation process will become a proxy war within the republican party where we have the new trump wing of the party pushing for warmer relations with russia where you have the john mccain, lindsey graham wing that show the many human rights abuses. that's a massive tension in the gop even whether tillerson is nominated or not, that tension isn't going to go away and it will be a central fight within the party for the next four years. >> thank you all very much. we appreciate it. still to come, the pastor of the charleston church where nine were murdered because they were black. that pastor speaks with cnn about the trial now under way. >> the sad part is after taking nine lives, you find humor in it. there's something not right with that.
tomorrow morning. we spoke with the pastor of the church. >> reporter: the reverend planned to stay silent during the trial of dylann roof out of respect for the families. he felt the need to speak out since the evidence began to surface during the trial to tell people here in charleston and the rest of the world that he and his congregation are still hurting and they're doing okay. that is manager we saw first hand when they invited us into the sanctuary. there's the sense of togetherness there and even celebration as people are coming together particularly this time of year to celebrate the memories of those nine victims. back to the pastor. i can tell you that the last few days have been very difficult and challenging for him. his goal here, his role, acco according to him is to be the spiritual leader for the victims and the survivors and the families of these victims as they head to court. he told us what it was like as he sat in that courtroom on
friday with the families and watched dylann roof's confession tape. >> i think realistically from that particular perspective it showed no remorse. the sad part is after taking nine lives, you find humor in it. there's something not right with that. as i shared with so many others, being reminded that we wrestle not against flesh and blood, it's a spiritual warfare. as i share with someone else as well that is just pure evil, and people saw it and reacted as
such. so, yeah. >> that was difficult to watch and image of him put out on thursday of him walking in and walking out. >> uh-huh, yeah. >> it was. >> i'll be there with the families to provide spiritual support and just the presence, ministry presence just being there. very important to me. >> reporter: reverend manning saying some of the hardest daying could be ahead for some of the survivors and families of the victims when the family impact statements take place during the dylann roof trial. i can tell you here for the leaders of this church the focus is on the victims. even today they handed out some of these calendars to church goers. each month including the story of the emmanuel nine and also the survivors that were in that church on that unholy day. poppy. >> thank you very much. also tonight on cnn, honoring every day heroes,
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we go to the natural history museum. big night ahead. >> anderson is inside along with the heros. what is incredible is they're humble. the amazing work they're doing, it is not a big deal to them but they know how deeply impactful the work they're doing is. we have celebrities here, people walking the red carpet. i want to bring in laurie hernandez, one of the olympic five who just won "dancing with the stars." first, how does "dancing with the stars" compare to the olympics? >> it is hard to compare the two because they're totally different. they both mean so much to me and it was an honor to experience the both of them. >> here you are at cnn heros. a lot of people who are doing great work. it is your first time. tell me a little bit about what you're anticipating. >> well, i'm just excited to be in the presence of so many amazing people. it's, you know, ordinary people doing extraordinary things. it's amazing to be a part of
this. i feel very inspired by all of them. >> it is amazing because here, you inspired an entire nation, really. everyone was rooting for you, cheering for you. now you see people having impacts on other people's lives in a meaningful way, as well. just to be exposed to that. if you could do anything after the olympics, which you already have with "dancing with the stars," but what would you want to do? how would you like to help? >> i mean, i think my goal would be just that, to go out and inspire others, whether it is creating goals for themselves or keeping their minds open to new opportunities and new hobbies. whether it is a sport or just something on the side they like to do. i feel like everyone should stay open just because there's so many cool things to experience in life. it's good to try at least all of them, you know? >> is this the first time at the natural history museum? >> actually, yes. it is so cool. >> what do you think of the dinosaurs here? >> i like them. it reminds me of history.
>> it's impressive. you are here. what are your plans? are you it ming anybody cool that's been here so far? >> well, actually, i have the opportunity to present an award today. that's going to be really exciting. >> and in terms of what your plans are now, what are you going to be doing? >> well, right now, i'm on the "dancing with the stars" tour. that'll be exciting. that's until valentine's day. i have a book coming out in january. >> all right. congratulations. good luck to you. thank you so much for inspiring an entire nation and tonight, this will be a very inspiring ceremony, as well. thanks so much and good luck with your presentation. >> thank you. >> of course. poppy, really a star-studded night here at the national history museum. just really the energy here is incredible. i know you'll be coming down here later on. you talk to these people, and you really feel inspired and you want to make a difference. >> absolutely. i think you and i need to talk on monday about how we're going to help remotely as much as
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you're live in the cnn newsroom. i'm poppy harlow in new york. president-elect donald trump is telling us exactly what he thinks of the cia's assessment that moscow meddled in the election with the intent to help trump win. here is the president-elect earlier today on fox news. >> i think it is ridiculous. it is just another excuse. i don't believe it. >> do you think that cia is trying to overturn the results of the election or somehow to weaken you in office? >> well, if you look at the story and you take a look at what they said, there is great confusion. nobody really knows. hacking is very interesting. once they hack, if you don't catch them in the act, you're not going to catch them. they have no idea if it is russia or china or somebody. it could be somebody sitting in a bed someplace. i mean, they have no idea. >> why would the cia put out the story that the russians wanted you to win? >> i'm not sure they put it out. i think the democrats are putting it out because they suffered one of the greatest