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ballistic missiles. the threat comes amid growing fears that kim jong-un could be preparing for another nuclear test. if launched, it would be the first one on president trump's watch. cnn correspondent will ripley is in pong yo pyongyang and filed this report. >> you have seen a show of force of a different kind. you can see north korea citizens are out here right now. these women are holding up a north korean flag and earlier we saw north korea's full arsenal on display. there were scud missiles. there were submarine launch ballistic missiles and land based missiles that can be launched from a mobile launcher and at the very end, we saw north korean intercontinental ballistic missiles. we know that north korea's leader kim jong-un's goal was to
develop a missile with a nuclear warhead capable of reaching the mainland united states. while analysts say it may not be there just yet, parades like this are certainly evidence that they continue to make progress, faster progress than many experts predicted. many thought there might be a nuclear test today on this important holiday or in the leadup to it. however, it seems as if the north koreans are holding off on the nuclear test for now. i have received information that a special operations exercise, a military exercise, earlier this week when commandos were jumping out of airplanes. that was an exercise in direct response to tweets from president trump talking about north korea and urging china to solve the north korea problem as he put it. we also know that there's a "uss carl vinson" striker and a 95,000 ton aircraft carrier designed to send a message of deterrence to north koreans
telling them not to engage in provocative behavior such as another missile launch or nuclear test. the atmosphere out here as north koreans would put it is a single hearted determination to find. to fight against the united states because their country has told them all of their lives that they are under the imminent threat of invasion. so you have a lot of these civilians out here, perhaps not many of these women but you have a lot of the men in the crowd here who have a military ba background who told us if there would be a war with the united states, they would leave their jobs, put their uniforms back on and fight. so this is what north korea is saying that they are being underestimated by the world and they put on these supersized displays to prove to the world that they are here to stay and they'll move forward on the road of their choosing even if that road is a path to nuclearization that many others including the united states feel is a dangerous and destructive path. will ripley, cnn, pyongyang. >> that's the view from the north korea capital.
if kim jong-un does conduct a nuclear test, there's a chance that mike pence could be across the border. president trump is at the southern white house in florida and cnn's jessica schneider is live in nearby west palm beach. jessica, good morning to you. what more are we learning about the vice president's trip and what does he exactly hope to achieve? >> reporter: this 11-day trip from vice president pence comes at a critical time as tensions over north korea continue to escalate. this will be the chance for vice president pence to lay out the administration's plans and policies to u.s. allies abroad. in fact, vice president pence is aboard air force two right now en route to south korea. he's actually making a refueling stop at some point in alaska and he will arrive in seoul, south korea, around 3:55 p.m. local time tomorrow. that's sunday. so on the list for vice president pence several things once he gets to seoul including
a visit to seoul national cemetery. he'll also attend an easter church service with u.s. and korean service members and he'll attend a fellowship meal with military families where he'll make remarks. vice president pence will remain in seoul, south korea, until tuesday, but that isn't the only stop. he'll also make stops in indonesia, japan, australia and then in hawaii, but of course, martin, at the forefront of the talking points for vice president pence north korea. martin? >> jessica schne schneider, thanks very much. what's next for the u.s.? let's talk with general james "spider" marks and david, gentlemen, good morning. pyongyang tends to flaunt its military might on this day, and this time they displayed several new missiles it seems, one of which was dubbed franken missile by a military expert in "the
wall street journal" saying "we're totally floored right now. i wasn't expecting to see this many new missile designs." when you look at the picture of this frankenmissile. we don't see the missile itself, what's your reaction? >> it's routine for the north koreans. they have for years and forever since the regime has been in place over 70 years have been on a path at a certain pace and that pace has been moderated a little bit only by their own behavior and their own technological abilities to create a nuclear capability and icbm capability and to maintain a level of readiness or at least overt readiness to the overt to the outside world level of readiness in their military. bear in mind they have one of the world's large est ground forces. the readiness cannot be assessed base on this parade.
their desire to achieve a nuclear tipped icbm is going to occur unless, of course, the international community can get in between their desires and this time line and by 2020, it would not be -- we should not be surprised that north korea has this capability to launch icbm that's nuclear tipped. we should be concerned. the only thing that's going to stop that is, as i indicated, there needs to be some action and no one, russia, china, any alliance is able to modify the behavior and objectives of this regime in pyongyang. >> so we know that china is seemingly trying to act as a referee here urging all sides from making inflammatory statements. listen here. >> translator: therefore we urge all parties to refrain from
provoking each other. >> do you expect north korea will listen to china and does the u.s. need to follow the advice as well? >> i think the chinese have more leverage than anyone else over north korea. no question about it. they are the overwhelmingly the only country that trades with north korea and there's more that china could do. i think the key thing for u.s. to do is to work with the chinese. sending the aircraft carrier is a threat of military force but the key is working with china to use its -- china can use economic leverage to get this regime to step back and then if the north koreans refuse to listen to china, that could help, you know, get the chinese to be more aggressive along with the united states if it becomes a completely rogue regime. >> right. it's quite a terrifying prospect to think of war on the korean peninsula again. i spent a lot of time there.
it would not be like any of the recent conflicts the united states has been involved in. i'm wondering, general, we know the u.s. sent a naval strike force, "uss carl vinson." if north korea connects another nuclear test, what options will the u.s. have in its ability to respond? >> first of all, bear in mind that north korea has conducted five tests to date over the course of the last six years or so. a little more than that. this sixth test will not immediately see a response from the united states. that's my estimate. they've done that before. we've assessed it before. we'll see what this looks like. what has to happen is that, again, this cannot continue a pace. the fact that the "carl vinson" is there is routine. this is a deployment that takes place. norther
always a carrier battle group in the pacific at the level of readiness that the navy maintains which is always available to strike and to do the nation's bidding. so this is not unusual. north korea knows it. certainly the alliance is aware of all this. it is prudent for the united states to do this. these actions, again, are normal. we should not embrace the narrative that what our president says either through tweets or words in any way is going to affect what takes place in the north. they've been isolated for 70 years. they do what they do. they get away with a lot of stuff, and we allow it to happen. that's normalcy. the only reason it's important now is because we've tied together in the context of what's taken place in syria and what took place in afghanistan and we now see what's happened along dnz but north korea is routinely at a level of rea readiness and tension is always high. >> we have to say good-bye
"spider" marks. david, stay with us. with the crisis in general, the mother of all bombs dropped on isis in afghanistan and tensions with north korea building, many are wondering does the president want to police the world after all? we'll discuss that. plus, as his views evolve so does his inner circle. how a wall street millionaire is moving up in the world of trump. with e*trade you see things your way. you have access to the right information at the right moment.
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elise labott has a look. >> reporter: new warnings from china as tensions rise from north korea, the chinese foreign minister warning that if war breaks out "there will be losses on all sides." russia, iran and syria also issue warnings to the u.s. against new strikes in syria. the threats follow president trump's decision to launch two major military strikes in afghanistan and syria. >> we have the greatest military in the world, and they've done a job as usual. we've given them total authorization. that's what they're doing. frankly, that's why they've been so successful lately. >> reporter: the display of military might a message to u.s. enemies and supporters and a hallmark of trump's emerging foreign policy. >> president trump has given much more leeway to his military commanders to strike and they're striking. i think that does send a message
around the world that america is back. >> unbelievable. >> reporter: it's an about-face from the candidate who promised a national security strategy that put america first. >> i want to help all of our allies, but we are losing billions and billions of dollars. we cannot be the policemen of the world. >> reporter: but as commander in chief, trump acknowledged the images of last week's gas attacks in syria had a deep impact. >> i now have responsibility, and i will have that responsibility and carry it very proudly. >> reporter: in a span of a week, trump has also changed his mind on the nato alliance now viewing it as a tool could counter russian aggression in europe. >> it's no longer obsolete. >> reporter: abandoning his hardline stand on china calling president xi jinping a partner to counter the military threats. >> president xi wants to do the
right thing. we had a very good bonding. i think we had a very good chemistry together. i think he wants to help us with north korea. >> reporter: if a trump foreign policy is emerging, it would be don't have a doctrine. >> i like to think of myself as a very flexible person. i don't have to have one specific way and if the world changes, i go the same way. i don't change. i do change. >> reporter: trump says he trusts his commanders pressing him to flex u.s. military muscle in yemen where the u.s. is stepping up air strikes against isis, in iraq and syria where trump has sent hundreds of additional troops to fight isis since taking office and in afghanistan where his national security adviser is traveling soon to plot the future of u.s. military presence. trump now learning to trust the expertise of his generals he
once boasted about knowing more than. >> i know more about isis than the generals do. believe me. >> reporter: military experts point to a popular saying in the military. you can delegate authority, but you cannot delegate responsibility. as commander in chief, president trump still owns the consequences of the decisions taken by the military on his behalf. while he may be glad to take credit when the mission is successful, the question is will he be ailiwilling to share at accountability when things go wrong? >> a number of excellent points. let's talk this all over with cnn political commentator assistant editor at "the washington post" and a reporter for "washington examiner" and then let's bring back cnn global affairs analyst david rohde. should the president even have a
doctrine? is it or is it not a good idea for the white house to not lock itself into any specific strategy? >> i think, you know, you don't want to telegraph everything. president trump is making clear that he will use military force. that's not a doctrine. that's a new message. he's sending this message out. it may have prompted kim jong-un to not carry out a nuclear test so far in north korea. this willing to use force could work. there are risks to that as well as was pointed out. clearly much more -- he's much more comfortable with using force than president obama was. >> david, one of the interesting other points in the report was when president trump was campaigning, he implied or had disdain for generals whose advice he is relying on quite heavily. is this the way business is done in washington or was there a mistrust sewn during the
campaign? >> so first of all, let me just take issue with one brief thing that david said although i agree with most of what he said, i think president obama was comfortable with the use of force. he used drones strikes. i think there was a different view on the getting involved with ground troops in certain countries like syria until the very end of president obama's campaign. president trump, i do think, so far at least is enjoying some of the atmospherics of having done these targeted strikes in afghanistan and syria. to your point, martin, i think, look, on politics of foreign policy, president trump made all of these statements during the campaign about getting rid of isis quickly but on the other hand going with america first as his signature tag line and now we're seeing a challenge of bringing all of those different components together into a
cohesive doctrine, if you will. i agree with david, you don't necessarily have to have a doctrine at this point. just understand what the road ahead looks like. >> and the question is does he understand what the road ahead looks like. while the president spends his weekend at mar-a-lago, mike pence is headed to an 11-day trip to asia and we expect that mcmaster will head to afghanistan for a fact finding mission. what do we make of that? president stays behind and sends others out to assess the world for him? >> sure. i think that's normal procedure in diplomacy, right. you send a message by sending the top people that you trust to go into an area that you feel needs attention, so secretary of state tillerson was in asia two weeks ago. you have vice president pence coming over. it's a message that comes from the white house. the president does not have to go over himself at this moment.
at least the circumstances do not dictate that. but, you know, it sends a signal and telegraphs that we're paying attention. we're not turning our back on this. this is important to us. >> david, my question here is where does the u.s. go next? we look at what could be a very dangerous road. china is still urging negotiated peace. is that possible or does conflict just seem inevitable? >> that's the thing. it's the beginning of president trump's presidency. this is the easy part. the strikes were easy. the strike in syria didn't change the military balance in that conflict at all. dropping one large bomb in afghanistan didn't change the conflict there at all. the commander of afghanistan wants several thousand more u.s. troops, advisers in afghanistan and then what is the strategy in north korea? as we talked about in the last
segment, the key is china. there's got to be a way for china to put more leverage on kim jong-un and the north korean economy. that's the only leverage left at this point. if you could somehow get chinese frustrated with north korea as they ignore pressure of china itself, that would be a step forward. in terms of the military solution, you could bomb a preemptive strike and take out some of these long range missiles and nuclear facilities but that would unleash a conventional conflict that could kill tens of thousands of south korean civilians and thousands of american troops that are very close to the border. >> all right. having spent time there, military officials told me that within a fast hour within a korean conflict 10,000 people would die. most of them civilians. david, thank you very much. still ahead, tax day. there are protests and marches
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from washington. good morning, tom. what's happening on the ground there? >> reporter: the crowd is just beginning to gather here. in many ways, this is a backlash protest. these are people who are frustrated specifically that an adviser to president trump said that the american people did not want to see his tax returns, and they're convinced and polls show that in fact an awful lot of americans do want to see those returns. we asked a few people earlier why they turned out today. listen. >> we've been in the military for over 20 years. we said it was time. this is something we want to see him do is to release his taxes. >> it's just an integrity thing. we're in the military. we were required to show any and every bit of information about ourselves, and it showed our integrity and our commitment. >> reporter: but it's also about a lot more than that. there are people here talking about immigration issues and people talking about fair living wages and a general sense of being unhappy with the way this administration is going.
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centrist views in the white house. sara murray reports one of the rising stars is a democrat. >> donald trump's inner circle may get another makeover and so may some of his policies. >> i think we have shaken them up and had one of the most successful 13 weeks in the history of presidents. >> steve bannon is licking his wounds after a public dressing down by the president who described him to "the wall street journal" as a guy that works for me. now washington's favorite parlor game, parsing the trump palace intrigue is kicking into overdrive as downfall of one aide appears to be giving rise to a lesser known face in the west wing. gary kohn is trump's economic director. he's a registered democrat but given money to republicans and he's been quietly pushing a more centrist agenda in the halls of the white house. the success of the more moderate faction in the west wing which
includes cohn, jared kushner and deputy national security adviser deanna powell was on clear display this week. the president insisting china is no longer a currency manipulator. abandoning this refrain from the campaign trail. >> we are going to label china a currency manipulator, which is what they're doing. >> and lavished praise on janet yellen after lampooning her during the campaign. >> in my opinion, janet yellen is highly political and not raising rates for a very specific reason because obama told her not to. >> as national champions in trump's white house appear to be losing ground, internal alliances may be shifting. policy adviser miller, a prominent trump cheerleader on the campaign trail -- >> are you ready to elect a man who can't be bought, who can't be purchased and who will only answer to the american people? >> reporter: found a kindred spirit in steve bannon and now
miller has been branching out working more closely with jared kushner's office of american innovation and assisting ivanka trump on her policies for paid family leave. trump told "the wall street journal" from day-to-day i don't know. this weekend president trump's senior staffers are taking a much needed break from all of this west wing turmoil to spend the easter weekend with their families. president trump is doing the same down in mar-a-lago where he hit the links on friday. his 17th trip to the golf course since becoming president. sara murray, cnn, washington. >> it's perfect timing to bring back our cnn political commentator and cnn contributor. if a white house shake-up were to answer, how does this work in the timing world compared to previous administrations? any new kind of record here? >> i don't know if it's a new record. i think the amount of flip-flops
of president trump and shifting back and forth between one sort of click of advisers and another is really breathtaking when you think about the fact that, you know, a lot of what trump appealed to voters on on the campaign trail was this idea that he was his own man. he shot from the hip. our previous leaders could flip a switch and make everything happen and he has power centers and decide which one will help him get things done and his poll numbers aren't good. it's breathtaking in that sense. i'm sure there have been past administrations going through american history where there have been shakeups in the first 100 days. >> what's your take on bannon? he's always been a most interesting character. now he seems to be on the outs. would you agree? >> yes. he definitely seems to be on the
outs. i think interesting to me, i'm going across the country right now. i'm in erie, pennsylvania. i'm talking to voters that supported obama for the first two cycles and then supported trump. while they find this palace intrigue interesting and entertaining, they're not surprised that president trump has this sort of disruptive force going on in his administration. it's sort of what they found appealing about him. they don't mind as of this point that he changes his mind about policy, about what he supports, and that he changes his mind about what is a good fit for him in his white house. so at this moment, i think that people that supported him are -- this isn't changing their mind about him. but they do find it entertaining. >> you know, i agree 100%. i flew back from wyoming last
night. the reddest of all states. they do not in any way have any complaints about what's going on. david, let me ask you this. when your boss calls you just a guy i work with, that pretty much is the writing on the wall, don't you think. i'm wonderi inin ining should bk for an exit and say i'm out of here, or does he try to hang on? >> i don't know. be careful what you wish for situation on behalf of president trump. i agree with you and i agree with selena that in those quarters where trump was most popular to begin with and shifting the guard so to speak in the white house will not hurt him in the polls. the problem is that overall he's hurt in the polls because he has not had a successful first 100 days and so steve bannon is one of the people taking the blame for that. the thing for president trump in my view is that if steve bannon is out, and i think he's definitely down but not necessarily out, but if he winds up being out, president trump is now going to have someone who
was once inside go back to being part of the loyal opposition. steve bannon is a wealthy guy, a harvard guy, former navy guy, a guy who controls breitbart. he's not in this for the paycheck. if he leaves, he will find something to do. i talked to people at breitbart who said he will find a way to try to hold the administration accountable for the agenda that he believes in. >> in other words, he could become a real problem for the administration. selena, kohn is a wall street guy. how will having a moderate person affect the president when it comes to issues of north korea and syria? is it a good thing? >> it's interesting. so if you look at the coalition that president trump pulled together, a lot of these forces are people that voted for him like erie, which is heavily democrat, which voted for obama twice in the large way, they're
not as ideologically attracted to him. that wasn't a driving force. it was that he was moderate. it was that he was not a politician. so to see him take advice from sort of a variety of different kinds of viewpoints doesn't upset them. when i was talking to voters yesterday, they were very happy with what happened in syria, and they don't have a problem with him showing strength in north korea. now, that does not mean that anybody wants to see troops on the ground. they're not looking at that. they do like the idea and the imagery of america sort of having this -- letting these countries know, hey, we're not, you know, going to take this fiddling around that i consistently continue to do. >> you know, david, it's been said that the president in taking this kind of international action has walked away from putting america first. just as selena pointed out, that's what i found in wyoming.
we're not going to be pushed around anymore is actually following what trump said he was going to do. putting america first on the world stage as well. >> yeah. so i think ultimately in the 2016 election and i will give credit where credit is due. selena captured this best and earliest in 2016. this idea that what people liked about trump, people that supported him, was not particularly a policy position on this or that. it was this idea that they wanted america to be represented by a president who spoke with this -- i'll put a finger in your eye. i'll talk to -- it's a change back from the sort of professorial style of president obama and people are getting what they voted for essentially when you have a president who, you know, in a couple days turns around and makes a decision to launch tomahawk missiles. that being said though, a lot of that is talk as selena just
said. it's not actually changing things on the ground in syria. it's not resolving the refugee situation. it's not deposing bashar al assad and maybe not not the goal. as time goes on in this administration, i do think those trump voters will get this changing of attitude that they like. what is unseen yet is whether or not they'll get a change in the state of things in the world or if the quality of their own lives economically and otherwise. >> we will all be watching for that. david, thank you very much. good luck there in erie. still ahead, a u.n. report. singles out north korean embassy in russia claiming it's a front for kim jong-un's elicit activities. the money laundering investigation is just ahead.
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president donald trump's former campaign chairman paul manafort is facing scrutiny over two issues. his personal finances and political past consulting work in ukraine. property records reviewed by cnn reveal that manafort purchased $17 million worth of real estate while working for ukrainian politicians and a russian billionaire. the properties are in new york city, palm beach and outside washington, d.c. and they were bought between 2006 and 2012. u.s. officials are also investigating potential ukrainian corruption involving manafort's former client the ex-president of ukraine, as well as any role that manafort may have played in russian's
meddling in the 2016 election. manafort denies wrong doing. kim jong-un's activity is increasing in scale and scope and sophisticated in a report that singled out north korea's embassy in moscow as a cover for the dictator's activity. paula newton is joining me from moscow. what does all of this mean and how significant is the report? >> hey, marty, so interesting, this is spelled out in a u.n. report and we'll get to russia's reaction in a second but involves something called kumsan trading corporation, a cash route to pyongyang. both the u.n. and u.s. treasury said look, this is a company that deals in prohibited minerals and its sanctioned but i it shares an address with the embassy in moscow. that is the key.
these are violations the way the u.s. report sees it but russia said this is not a company registered in the russian federation. we asked russia to respond to it and they referred to us -- didn't look at the u.n. report but referred to the website on the foreign ministry report. what are we getting to? martin, russia and north korea have ties not as significant as china but ties and they share a border and they have some military involvement with each other, in terms of international arms fares, they have an economic relationship and migrant labor comes to north korea. throughout all of this the u.n. is watching this carefully. what they want to see is a little more vigilance on the part of member states when they point out violations. what's interesting here, is what the motives for russia might be. take a listen to bill richardson, former u.s. ambassador to the u.n. >> i think russia is trying to have it both ways. they vote for more sanctions in
the u.n. security council. the p 5 so publicly they're for restraining north korea, put more sanctions when north korea conducts missile tests, but there are reports that russia and north korea have gotten in a tighter relationship. >> and what is that tighter relationship do for russia? it again, ensures leverage and more -- they have a seat at the table when it comes to north korean relations but it's not just china that wants a say and martin, we've been talking about it for days now, how russia has insinuated itself in the middle east through syria, it is doing the same through north korea, continuing to try to build up those ties with the u.n. and the u.s. treasury are worried the ties are violating the sanctions. >> they would be worried. paula newton, thank you very much. nice to see you. rebel bombs, chemical weapons, it is the world for
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