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to ashes. why is china putting war planes on high alert? and the trump factor. president trump is silent on the stunning downfall of his long-time friend bill o'reilly as the president's strong defense of the former fox host against sexual harassment allegations, what are the political implications? i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." ♪ this is "cnn breaking news." >> we're following breaking news. a deadly shooting in paris now being investigated as a possible terror attack. officials there say a car pulled up next to a police van and opened fire with an automatic weapon. one police officer was killed, at least two others injured before the shooter was killed. over at the white house meanwhile, president trump just expressed condolences to france and said the shooting, quote, looks like another terrorist attack. the president also criticized iran, which he says is not living up to the spirit of the
nuclear agreement. and he expressed confidence that china's president is working to contain what mr. trump calls the menace of north korea. also tonight, the kim jong-un regime is making new threats against the united states, vowing, and i'm quoting now, complete destruction that will leave the country in ashes. we're covering all of that. much more this hour with our guests, including congressman ruben gaigo of the housed armed services committee and correspondents and expert analysts are standing by. let's get straight to paris with breaking news. our cnn international correspondent melissa bell is on the scene for us. melissa, this is unfolding right now on the city's busiest streets. tell us the latest. >> reporter: the champs-élysees is still completely cut off, just over two hours after this attack took place. a lot of the details of what happened have been cleared up by authorities. you know, since then we heard
what we now know were these gunshots from up here on the cnn terrace, overlooking as you say what is one of the busiest avenues in france, also one of the most heavily policed. now, we are still under a state of emergency here in france as a result of the terrorist attacks of the last couple of years. the champs-élysees in particular, this iconic avenue in paris is always heavily policed. what we now know is one of the many police vans who patrol this street, was just outside one of those police vans that that attacker pulled up in his car and opened fire, tragically killing one of those policemen, wolf. those are the facts we now know. also that france has opened an anti-terror investigation, the clearest indication so far that french authorities believe this was terror-related. >> melissa, the french elections are this sunday, the national elections. this clearly could have an impact. explain the possible impact. >> reporter: we are just a couple of days, as you say, from a presidential election that is likely to prove not just
fundamentally redefining the future of france, but it was already proving extremely unpredictable. the specter of the far right has hung over the race over the course of the last few months in the shape of marine le pen, the far right leader. she has tweeted out about this. she has been presenting herself as the law and order candidate. now you have the extra layer of a terror investigation being opened. that plays into her narrative. the nature of who this suspect was, particularly what his motivations were, is going to be extremely important over the coming hours. clearly this election campaign in which so many french voters, historic numbers of french vote ofs yet to make up their minds, will be dominated in the last 48 hours by the images of the champs-élysees closed off tonight and by the death of that policeman at the hands of this attacker. what were his motivations, who was he? if it turns out indeed, this was terror-related, marine le pen is likely to kind of use it in the run-up to the election and it is likely to play into what was
looking already like an extremely uncertain vote. >> yes. we will be watching every step of the way together with you. melissa bell in paris for us. thank you very much. i want to bring in our chief national security correspondent, jim sciutto. jim, you are picking up some additional information. what else are you learning? >> wolf, it does appear that this assailant was previously known to french authorities, specifically to the gdsi, the general directorate for internal security in france, among whose duties is counterterrorism. that's not to definitively say it was a terrorist attack because they're still investigating that, but it appears his identity was known prior to this. that, of course, is telling because this has been the case with many of these attacks. if you remember, charlie hebdo, the brothers who carried that attack out as well as some of the attackers during the paris attacks in november 2015, prior known to french authorities, and the reason that's possible there is is that they have so many jihadis or suspected jihadis or people tied to them, numbering
in the thousands which make it impossible, frankly, for the french authorities to track all of them. again, not a definitive answer. they've opened a terror investigation. they don't know for sure the motivation of this, but we are learning that he was known prior to this attack to french authorities. the other point i would make, wolf, is this. the police sadly a frequent target of these kinds of attacks, and certainly the champs-élysees, there have been a number of threats focused on the champs-élysees in the months following the paris attacks. >> you were there in paris during the november 2015 attacks. you were throughout the city. what does it tell you as someone who has covered these attacks in paris that the police were specifically targeted today? >> it is a frequent target of groups like this. again, if we lead -- if police find information to back up that this was an attack motivated by terrorism, that they are frequently a target of attacks like that. police authorities, official buildings, et cetera. it does get to the wider point
of the challenge that france has here. we've heard of a number of thwarted plots in advance of these presidential elections, but the trouble with counterterror, and the same is true here in the u.s., you often don't hear about the plots that are thwarted, and there are many in both countries. sadly, the ones you do hear about are the ones that get through. it is impossible, as they say, the police have to be right all the time. it is actors like this only have to be right once. >> jim sciutto reporting for us. thank you. president trump meanwhile spoke about the situation in paris a little while ago during a news conference with italy's prime minister. let's go to our senior white house correspondent jeff zeleny. jeff, you were there at the news conference. the president did comment on this incident in paris. tell us what he said. >> reporter: wolf, he did indeed. the president in the east room of the white house offering his concern and condolences for the people of paris and perhaps getting out slightly ahead of the french authorities. he did not mince words. he said it looked like a terrorist attack.
>> first of all, our condolences from our country to the people of france. again, it is happening it seems. i just saw it as i was walking in, so that's a terrible thing. it is a very, very terrible thing that's going on in the world today, but it looks like another terrorist attack, and what can you say? just never ends. we have to be strong and we have to be vigilant, and i have been saying it for a long time. >> reporter: so certainly the president there getting that early information, that early word. it was the subject of at least a bit of the discussion with the italian prime minister who he was meeting with today at the white house, wolf. >> he also spoke about north korea, the president, jeff. he mentioned what he called unusual moves going on right now. tell us about that. >> reporter: wolf, this was very interesting. he talked, of course, about the emerging threat of north korea, but he talked about these unusual moves. he was holding out the hope that china is going to be his ally here, the ally and partner of the u.s.
he did not say what the unusual moves that china is sort of doing to the regime of north korea, but listen to what he said right here. >> i have great respect for the president of china. as you know, we had a great summit in florida, in palm beach, and got to know each other and i think like each other. i can stay from my standpoint i liked him very much, i respect him very much, and i think he is working very hard. i can say that all of the pundits out there are saying they never have seen china work like they're working right now. many coal ships have setback, many other things have happened. some very unusual moves have been made over the last two or three hours, and i really have confidence that the president will try very hard. we don't know whether or not they're able to do that, but i have absolute confidence that he will be trying very, very hard. >> reporter: and, wolf, such a difference in tone and tenor of his comments there toward the
president of china, xi jinping, holding out hope they will be helping with the threat of north korea, but did not clarify what the unusual moves were in the last couple of hours. perhaps we will get a sense of that going forward here. but china, indeed, trying to put the screws on economically and ot wise to the north korean regime, wolf. >> very interesting indeed. he also issued a warning of sorts to iran. tell us about that. >> reporter: he did, indeed, wolf. talking and indeed ask about the iran nuclear agreement, which he talked about, you know, how opposed he was to this during the course of the campaign, you know, initially said he would rip it up once he came to the white house. well, that has not yet happened. in fact, earlier this week his secretary of state also said it was not a good agreement, but said for now they're sticking with it. listen to what the president said about that agreement. >> as far as iran is concerned, i think they are doing a tremendous disservice to an agreement that was signed. it was a terrible agreement. it shouldn't have been signed. it shouldn't have been
negotiated the way it was negotiated. i'm all for agreements, but that was a bad one, as bad as i've ever seen negotiated. they are not living up to the spirit of the agreement, i can tell you that. we're analyzing it very, very carefully, and we'll have something to say about it in the not too distant future, but iran has not lived up to the spirit of the agreement, and they have to do. they have to do that. so we will see what happens. >> reporter: so a bit of a cliffhanger there, you know, saying iran has not lived up to the agreement, which he has said many times before. we don't know the next step, what now, what if, you know, they do not do this here? but certainly sounding an ominous and credit will cal note of iran. wolf, quickly on the domestic front, the president also asked, next week of course marks the 100th day of his presidency, a big week on capitol hill, a funding deadline. the government could shut down by the end of the week if the funding not approved. he was asked directly if he would like to see his healthcare
bill revived or the government stay open. he said he would like to see both, and he talked more optimistically about health harbour town care, wolf. he said that he would -- you know, he believes it will get passed at some point, if not next week perhaps shortly after. we'll see about that. >> we shall see. a week from saturday marks day 100 of his presidency. jeff zeleny it at the white house. thanks very much. let's get more on all of this. democratic congressman from arizona is joining us, a member of the armed services committee and iraq war veteran as el with. in the marine corps, right? >> yes. >> thanks for joining us. let me get your quick reaction. this incident which looks like it was a terrorist incident, a shooting of a police officer and a couple of others, what is your reaction? >> of course our prayers go out to the police and the people of france, and hopefully they have caught everybody or will catch everybody, and of course we will be here to help out however we can. it is always a tragedy when these things occur, especially so close to an election. >> we are still waiting to get official word, but indications from paris are that it looks
like a terrorist incident. on iran you heard the president say that the iranians are not living up to, quote, the spirit of the nuclear agreement. to you believe they are? >> so far from what we've seen they're living up to the agreement. i think the word spirit needs to be defined. the president needs to be more refined with his words, especially when dealing with an agreement that involves so many nation. it is one of our concerns that he has not staffed the state department with professionals to help him analyze this. before he starts making they unilateral decisions he should involve some of the partners that were initially involved in putting together this very important deal. iran is a bad actor, but as long as they're agreeing to the agreement when it comes the nuclear deal, we can take care of them on other ends, especially when it comes o the earns can of all of their involvement in the middle east right now. >> we heard from the secretary of state yesterday, the state department has certified iran is adhering to the agreement, but he went on to describe iran as the world's leading state
sponsor of terrorism, awful human rights record, getting involved in syria, elsewhere against u.s. interests. you agree with him on all of that? >> i agree with him and we can tear ka of that separate and apart from this. what we want to do is make sure we deal with iran, their terrorist actions, influence in the middle east, without them having the ability to get a bomb. at least if they comply with jcpoa, then we can still fight the fight when it comes to the other areas, whether it is through military action or through our diplomatic efforts to make sure that they're not having as much influence in the middle east, especially when it comes to syria and iraq. >> i want to get your reaction to several other issues including what the attorney general-of -- we're shifting gears right now -- jeff sessions said last night defending the president's executive order on banning travel from certain muslim majority countries. i want you to listen to this. >> we are confident that the president will prevail on appeal, and particularly in the supreme court, if not the ninth
circuit. so this is a huge matter. i really am amazed that a judge sitting on an island in the pacific can issue an order that stops the president of the united states from what appears to be clearly his statutory and constitutional powers. >> all right. that federal judge sitting on an island in the pacific, judge derrick watson, that island in the pacific happens to be the state of hawaii. your reaction when you hear the attorney general speak like this about that federal judge sitting somewhere out in the pacific? >> i'm not surprised at all. you know, sessions and, you know, president trump were also questioning where the president of the united states was born, whether he was born in hawaii, whether he was a legitimate citizen or not. this causes a lot of consternation and hesitancy when it comes to trusting this administration, when it comes to anything with issues of civil rights or immigration. we don't know the genesis or where the origin of their ideas
come from. the first executive order was clearly a muslim ban, something that severely impacted the world view of the united states and i'm convinced this also a continuation of that. and if anything it only gives us more reason why we should make sure this ban is rejected because this is the kind of -- >> but it is pretty shocking that the attorney general of the united states is degrading the state of hawaii and a federal judge, sort of blandly calling it -- i'm amazed a judge sitting on an island in the pacific, the u.s. senator from hawaii said, hey, jeff sessions, this #island in the pacific has been the 50th state for going on 58 years, and we won't succumb to your dog whistle -- >> they're taking an example from the president. this is the same president that accused a latino american judge of not being sufficiently american. you know, he's taking a cue from the president that said president obama was probably not born in the united states and created a dog whistle campaign
to basically try to convince people, at least convince some voters that the president was not born here. why are we surprised jeff sessions was selected to be part of this administration? they all think one and the same. it is not dog whistle politics, it is outright insensitive and anti-america to say that hawaii is not part of the united states. >> there's a case that involves a dreamer, someone brought here at the age of nine to the united states, who was deported, and this seems to be the first case of someone deported, and it is now before that same judge who has to consider whether or not documents can be released from the department of homeland security which would backup the administration's position that this person went to mexico illegal willy, then tri illegally, then tried to come back in violating the terms of being a dreamer and the authority that he should have, the safety he should have to live here. >> well, judge curiel is a well-respected jurist.
i'm sure he will look at the facts and make sure that a good decision comes down. i think a lot of us are more worried about the precedent of, you know, dreamers essentially being deported when we were told and have been told repeatedly they will be a protected class. i hope that's not the case, but this is why we're all intently watching what the next actions are from this administration. >> it is interesting judge curiel is the one who got just by a lottery, randomly this case that he has to be involved in. >> karma is funny that way. >> certainly is. congressman, stand by. we will have more to talk about. more information coming in. we will be right back. ♪ where to go, and how to work around your uc. that's how i thought it had to be. but then i talked to my doctor about humira, and learned humira can help get and keep uc under control... when certain medications haven't worked well enough. humira can lower your ability to fight infections,
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congressman of arizona, a member of the armed services committee. we will talk to him about north korea threatening the u.s. with, quote, total destruction in re-talation ftee t retaliation for any preemptive strike. elise, tension with north korea is clearly reaching troubling new levels. >> reporter: that's right, wolf. pu president trump just called north korea a mens a and pointed to unusual moves by china in the past few hours with the chinese military on high alert. this as jim jong un threatens a strike against his enemies that will leave the u.s. in ashes. tonight china is already preparing for the worst. u.s. officials tell cnn beijing is putting missile-capable bombers and other military aircraft on, quote, high alert. this as more than 1,000 u.s. too troops team up with south korean forces for operation max
thunder, one of the largest military exercises between the two countries. as tensions with north korea boil over, kim jong-un vowing to meet u.s. threats of a preemptive strike. in an op-ed, a north korean paper warns, our preemptive strike will be the most mersly strike, aiming for a complete destruction that doesn't allow for the survival of the enemies. if the super powerful strike goes forward, they add, the u.s. main land will be completely destroyed in an instant, only ashes will be left. secretary of state rex tillerson says the trump administration is trying to force north korea to the negotiating table for a political solution to the crisis. >> we're reviewing all of the status of north korea, both in terms of state sponsorship of terrorism as well as all of the other ways in which we can bring pressure to bear on the regime and pyongyang to reengage, but reengage with us on a different footing than the past talks have been held. >> reporter: it has never worked
before, but u.s. officials say the strategy depend on china putting pressure. they have stopped imports of coal. today china supported a u.s. resolution condemning north korea's missile test. now president trump wants president xi jinping to limit imports to north korea in exchange for better trade deals with the u.s. >> all of this chest thumping is less design to influence the north koreans than it is designed to influence the chinese who do not want us disturbing that part of the world, so maybe we can use it as a lever to get them to do more. >> reporter: the north korean monitoring service "38 north" warns the country's nuclear test site is, quote, primed and ready. in an odd develop the group released satellite imagery of what appears to be three volleyball games under way at different locations at the site,
though u.s. officials tell cnn they're still bracing for a nuclear test at any time. wolf, after those military exercises with australia, the american carrier, the uss carl vinson is now headed towards the korean peninsula. the navy has extended the deployment of the soldiers on board, and the carrier will remain stationed near the korean peninsula at least until the end of june, wolf. >> thank you, elise. ee leez labott at the state department. congressman, you have been watching it very closely. you are a member of the armed services committee. the rhetorical escalation from the trump administration as far as north korea is concerned, is it appropriate? >> not necessary that it is appropriate or not. i think we have to worry about whether it is dangerous or not. you know, teddy roosevelt laid out a very good doctrine for us. speak softly and carry a big stick. right now we're talking very loudly and losing aircraft carriers on the way to north korea and that's creating a lot of tension with our allies in south korea. right now the south korean media
is making fun of the united states, particularly the trump administration for losing an aircraft carrier. >> but it is having an impact on china, which has leverage on the north koreans? >> i hope it does. i do not see the overall strategy to bring it to a peaceful conclusion. we have to coordinate closely with south korea and china to make sure it ends up in a non- shooting situation for the whole world. i have confidence in our military. i don't have the diplomatic confidence in the trump administration. >> it is interesting. at the news conference the president just had had with the visiting italian prime minister, president basically said as far as the chinese is concerned, you want better trade deal with the united states, you better work harder to prevent north korea from engaging in these nuclear threats. >> i don't think it is a good precedent for us to start with any other nation, too. when they start thinking about trying to get better trade deals with us and they need to create
a situation to make that happen, you know, you donald want th't o look at china as a good example. we want a stabilized region because it is good -- >> the chinese have done good things from the perspective of reducing coal imports, suspending all flights between china and north korea. >> absolutely. >> they've been doing things that will put some pressure on north korea. you welcome that? >> oh, absolutely. again, we want stability in the region. we want everyone to act like adults and not end up in a shooting war, which is also why it is important for the trump administration to also be part of that solution. you know, again, don't lose aircraft carrier groups going to korea. don't insult south koreans by saying that they are of -- or korea in general saying they're ethnically chinese. these kind of things really in this time, especially when they don't have a president in south korea, makes it difficult for us to conclude it in a peaceful manner. >> it is interesting that china voted with the united states at
the united nations security council on the anti-north korean resolution. the russians voted against it. what do you make of it? >> if you look at the history, especially the korean conflict, the chinese always wanted a stable korean peninsula and last thing they want -- >> what about the russians? >> the russians are acting like mad russians as usual. at this point let's be happy what is happening with china. china wants a stable korea, they do not want the united states back on their border. we saw what happened during the korean war, and at this point the best thing that's in the interests of china is for there to be a stable korean peninsula, status quo as it is right now. >> yeah, you served in the iraq war, a united states marine. when you saw the russian, those bombers on two days in a row buzzing the alaska coastline and u.s. fighter jets had had to go up and intercept, tell those russian planes get out of here, those are nuclear capable bombers that the russians were buzzing the alaska coastline with. that's a big deal.
>> absolutely it is a big deal, and they should not be entering our sovereign space. >> they didn't enter u.s. sovereign space. they were in international waters, one day 100 miles off the coast of alaska, next day 36 miles, in international space but close. >> they're basically trying to just antagonize us. look, russia is a country that is trying to push its agenda. it is internally weak, economically weak, and right now they need to project an aura of power to keep control within its own country, and they will be doing acts like this. of course, we have to match every action of theirs with a positive reaction. i question right now, you know, a lot of things that are actions with the secretary of state visiting with putin. there's a lot of conversations happening about lifting sanctions, and i hope that they will remember these types of actions before we lift any sanctions on russia. >> congressman fwrks allegos, you know war, you have served in the united states marine corps in a war situation. this is a sentense situation.
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clip of what the president said. he is optimistic obamacare will soon be gone. listen to this. >> the plan gets better and better and better, and it's gotti really, really good. a lot of people like it a lot. we have a good chance of getting it soon. i would like to say ex in weene but i believe we will get it. whether it is next week or shortly thereafter. >> a lot of republicans are pretty still skeptical they've got a teal. what are you hearing? >> they are skeptical. clearly the white house is tubbing very hard to get some action next week. they see the 100 day mark on the calendar. they want to be able to tick it off their list. there's no legislative language yet, and we're not going to get it it at earliest over the weekend. so to think there will be a vote next week on language that doesn't yet exist for something so complicated and die advicivi inside the republican party is a stretch, while trying to fund the government. did you hear what the president said at the end, he left a little wiggle room, it doesn't have to be next week.
i think what the white house feels is important, the effort is as important as the result. they want to repeal and replace obamacare, but they want to show voters they're not giving up fighting to repeal and replace obamacare, which is why i think you see even though there's not a clear vote passing yet why you see it renewed. >> even if they come up with new language for legislation, mark preston, the congressional budget office presumably has to, what they call, score it. they have to report on the impact of this legislation, and they usually do that before a vote. that takes a while. >> it certainly takes a while. look, there's no indication right now that there's going to be enough votes anyway in the house. let's not forget that's just one step in multiple stems. we then have to go to the senate and it has to pass the senate. to the point of trying to get this done as quickly as possible is really strategically wrong, and i think david is right they want to try to get a win right before the 100 day mark, but they already had a major loss. just take what they learned from the major loss and try to get it done right rather than try to get it done quick, especially at
a time when they're trying to fund the government next week. that will be very contentious here in washington. >> mark makes a good point, rebecca, even if it narrowly passes, gets 216 votes on the floor of the house of representatives, no guarantee it will get a majority in the senate. >> no, not at all. mark mentions the lessons that the white house learned from the first time this healthcare process failed. this indicates to me they didn't learn very much at all because here the white house is the one calling the vote, setting the timetable for a vote in the house of representatives when the house leadership hasn't indicated that there would be votes for this new proposal that they have put out. so it really shows me that they're not very organized in this process, but it also emphasizes and i think reflect the fact not only are they looking at the calendar and this 100-day mark in their administration, but they're also beginning to reemphasize that healthcare, as rick mulvaney told me recently, a linchpin in their larger agenda. this is what they need for tax reform and everything to follow. >> we're getting reaction to the
very controversial comments that the attorney general jeff sessions said last night. let me play the clip once again. he degraded the state of hawaii as well as a federal judge. listen to this. >> we are confident that the president will prevail on appeal, and particularly in the supreme court, if not the ninth circuit. so this is a huge matter. i really am amazed that a judge sitting on an island in the pacific can issue an order that stops the president of the united states from what appears to be clearly his statutory and constitutional powers. >> that federal judge derrick watson, issuing that order involving putting a hold on travel ban two. but you're getting reaction now from the justice department. >> well, right. they put out a statement just now, wolf. they said, not walking back at all what jeff sessions said and
saying, hawaii is, in fact, an island in the pacific, yes. a beautiful one where the attorney general's granddaughter was born. they go on to say the point he is trying to make is that he doesn't think just, you know, one judge should have any ability to halt the president's executive authority here. that may be jeff session's interpretation, but somebody who served in the united states senate, it is odd he would sort on of say an island in the pacific when he knows it is a state, one of the 50 states and has two senators like the rest of his colleagues in the united states senate. so why he would dismissively do that doesn't make sense. i understand he was trying to say he didn't think this judge rightly decided the case, but that's not what he was saying. >> and that judge, derrick watson, he was confirmed by the united states senate, what, 94-0. >> right. david and i were looking back at the vote and guess who voted for the judge? jeff sessions voted for the uj j. to david's point, too, the fact of the matter is jeff sessions is a smart politician. he knows hawaii is not some island out there where liberals
are living just to try to obstruct the trump agenda and whoever allowed that reaction to his statement to go out really was malpractice. >> you know, the president of the united states, he had some negative things to say about federal judges as well. it is not just the attorney general of the united states. >> he has. and, of course, that federal judge that the president had some negative things to say about -- >> judge curiel. >> -- judge curiel is coming back into the spotlight. he will be hearing this case over a dreamer who says he was deported, wrongfully so. so lots of questions at the forefront about how this administration views the judiciary and these comments they're making. but when the attorney general is coming out and saying something like this about a federal judge, it is really astounding to me. the justice department you would expect to support the judges in the federal system. >> it seems like not a complete understanding of the separation of powers, how it works. actually, a judge can issue a ruling that does halt something the executive is doing. >> right. >> that's the way it works.
>> there are three brafrmes of the government. >> exactly. >> and i steal from david, hawaii is, in fact, an island from the pacific. thank you for this great geography lesson. why can't he come out and say he is upset about this, he believes it is handled wrong and he misspoke. >> you're not going to hear that very often, that they made a mistake. >> not in the lexicon of this administration. >> tough situation. thanks, guys. we have more news coming up. we have breaking news we're following. that shooting targeting police in paris, we will go live to the french capital. much more coming up. ♪ nobody does underwater stunts, sylvia. except me, of course. this is my stop. adios! mistake. much more coming up. ♪ ♪
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we're following the breaking news in paris. we're going back to the scene momentarily. take a look at live pictures from the champs-élysees, the arc d' triomphe. there's been a police cordon put over the area. one police officer shot and killed, others injured. it looks according to paris police like a terror incident. the president of the united states said looks like a terror incident. we will have full coverage of that. that's coming up. in the meantime let's get back to our political panel. the whole -- hold on one second. i'm just getting told that the -- the information we're getting from paris -- yes, we will be updating that momentarily and we'll have much more coming up on this, what looks like a terror attack in paris. in the meantime, there's other
news that we're following including the fallout, the stunning downfall of the former fox news host bill o'reilly, that could have some significant implications for one of his most prominent supporters. we are talking about the president of the united states. brian todd is taking a closer look for us. brian, both men have benefitted from their friendship. >> they have, wolf, certainly. donald trump and bill o'reilly both bit their support on their appeal to the forgotten voter. each seemed to feed off the other's popularity, but tonight o'reilly is gone. trump is being criticized for supporting him, and republican leaders are, again, worried about fallout at the polls. >> bill o'reilly -- i have a lot of respect for bill o'reilly. tough guy, smart guy. >> their success over the past 20 years is almost intertwined, their friendship well-documented. they have gone to sporting events to go, been seen sipping milkshakes. since 2003 trump owe piered on the o'reilly factor more than 20
times by cnn's count. >> a good week for president trump. >> as the interview during this year's super bowl coverage showed, o'reilly didn't always fawn over trump. >> as the president, you say, for example, there are three million illegal aliens who voted and then you don't have the data to back it up, some people are going to say that's irresponsible for a president to say that. is there any validity to that? >> well, many people have come out and said i'm right. you know that. >> i know, but you have to have data to back it up. >> it is a relationship that helped boost the popularity of both men. >> the populous and with bill o'reilly i think in some ways is linked to the play that donald trump made of, i'm for your, you're voiceless, the mainstream media aren't for you, we're going to drain the swamp. that all fits with the rhetoric of, i'm for you, i'm in the no spin zone. >> now tied together in a more troubling way, both accused by multiple women of sexual harassment and inappropriate conduct. both vehemently deny the allegations. trump in an extraordinary move for president defended o'reilly
to the new york times a cup can will of weeksmen. >> he's a good person. i think he shouldn't have settled. personally. he shouldn't have settled. i don't think bill would do anything wrong. >> reporter: tonight after o'reilly's dis missal at fox the white house isn't saying if the president still feels that way. trump's election following the "access hollywood" controversy was at least a catalyst to o'reilly's downfall. >> it may be connected to the dismay of a lot of women who came out in the women's march who said we won't, we cannot stand for this any more. >> reporter: tonight analysts say the potential fallout from trump's association with o'reilly could hurt the republican party moving forward. now a lot of this actually depends on how trump handles the fallout from o'reilly going forward. if he keeps defending o'reilly, he and other republicans may lose the support of women voters
but if he stays quiet on o'reilly and focuses on other issues, voters could look past this. a lot of this depends on how the president handle is it. >> we're getting new information on bill o'reilly's payout from fox, what are you learning? >> reporter: it's a staggering amount that o'reilly's getting paid. he's get $25 million to leave fox, that's the equivalent of about one year salary for o'reilly under the contract he just signed. 21st century fox and o'reilly not acknowledging the existence of any payout. >> let's get back to our panel. this is a relationship between the president and bill o'reilly that's been going on for 20 years. >> and a relationship between bill o'reilly, fox news and the republican party that's been going on and i cannot stress to you, wolf, what an impact bill o'reilly has had, talking to voters across this country, you hear recitation of his talking points because it really helps a lot of people in this country
who watch fox and him sharpen their world view. this is a huge shift in the conservative media landscape. >> you agree. >> no question about that. while o'reilly was hard on trump during these interviews, he wasn't hard in a way to take him down. he was almost trying to goad him along into trying to bring him along on a plain, wolf, where he thought his messaging would be better if trump listened to o'reilly. >> it wasn't just rebecca, the president's relationship with bill o'reilly, long-standing, he had a good relationship with rodgers ails who also was removed from fox amid allegations of sexual harassment. >> after rodgers ales left fox news, he went and advised donald trump in his campaign for president, which was the source of some controversy for donald trump these are some of his close allies. his views them as friends and he rejects these accusations just as he rejected the accusations
against him. >> if the president is asked to comment about bill o'reilly's departure, what do you think he'll say now? he didn't think he should settle. he's a great guy. didn't do anything wrong. >> that was something the president said unsolicited. he wasn't even asked about bill o'reilly so who nose what he would say now. surely i think his advisors would hope that he avoids this very controversial subject. >> this is very unfortunate situation and let's talk about issues that effect the american people. i don't know if he's going to do that. >> what do you think? >> i agree what he's saying, wise advice. he has to be careful here, not just the politics of how women may respond, but there's going to be a lot of outrage over $25 million payout. that is something that i think to a lot of american people, even fox viewers, that will seem very confusing that somebody loses their job and gets paid $25 million. >> roger ales got a $40 million
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why now? we're getting new details this hour. paris attack. multiple shots ring out and police are targeted in a city scarred by terror. new details this hour in the deadly violence and whose behind it? talking terror. president trump says the paris shooting looks like an act of terror as the investigation is just getting underway. the commander in chief making new public comments about global threats citing unusual moves within the last few hours in response to north korea's taunts. ready for war? hundreds of u.s. troops are training for combat on the korean peninsula right now and chinese attack planes are on high alert today. is north korea ready to launch a pre-emptive strikes as it threatens to quote t completely destroy the united states. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room."