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good evening. john berman in here for anderson. breaking news, just moments ago, the president of the united states said the federal investigation into russian ties into trump associates is a made-up story. and the failure to vet and
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identify payments to his own former national security adviser, that's the fault of the obama administration. more on that in a moment. a u.s. official says the missile, a medium-range ballistic missile, blew up over land and failed to reach japan. the message, a giant middle finger from kim jong-un. that's according to a military analyst you will hear from in a moment. the missile finger, as it were, came just hours after secretary of state rex tillerson spoke to the united nations, calling for more pressure on north korea but left open the possibility for negotiation. >> all options for responsibilityi inresponding to future provocation must be on the table. it must be backed up by a willingness to counteract aggression with military action, if necessary.
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we much prefer a negotiated solution to this problem. >> the launch comes after an interview that roite eroit reut with the president. listen to what he said there. >> there's a chance we could end up having a major, major conflict with north korea. >> so north korea heard that and then apparently launched a missile. cnn's will ripley inside pyongyang, he join us now, what more do we know about this latest missile test? >> reporter: south korea is saying that this missile flew as high as 44 miles before exploding over north korean territory. so it did not go out and explode in the waters of japan that officials initially believed. this just goes to show there's always amount of confusion in the early hours of these missile
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launches. this is a secretive regime. they don't announce these things ahead of time. so, until the u.s., japan and -- what they believe at this hour s that this was a land based missile, the kind of missile we saw rolled out in that massive military parade, a modified scud missile that could be used to attack a u.s. aircraft carrier, like "the carl vinson" that's in the waters off of north korea. this ballistic missile is attempting to tell the trump administration that north korea is perfecting weapons they can use against the u.s. warships, they view as a threat, just like they view the joint military exercises that are happening in south korea are a threat and officials are telling me on the ground that more nuclear launches and
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he's ready to push the button. >> what's the news from north korea? >> reporter: we called our government contacts this morning, when we learned of this, they hadn't heard anything about it and although this was considered to be a failure, even though north korea may not view it this way, even though the missile did fly a considerable flight but it didn't fly as far as they anticipated. i have been here during failed missile launches before and the rest of the world is talking about it and pretty much every north korean will never know it happened other than kim jong-un and his rocket scientists, but they are not deterred by this kind of failure, in some ways they learn more from a failure than a success, so we can see more provocative behaviors. china also may get indications in the coming howeve ing hours plan to respond. >> will ripley, from pyongyang, thank you so much. jim acosta now joins me from the white house with the latest from there. jim, how is the white house responding? >> reporter: we should point out that president trump was briefed on all this while he was on his way back from the national rifle association.
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he was briefed on air force one by advisers. the president has issued a tweet on all of this. we can put that up on the screen if you like. he tweeted, north korea disrespected the wishes of china and it's highly respected president, referring to president xi, when it launched, though un successfully today a missile today. bad. john had a chance to catch up with the national security adviser, k.t. mcfarland, outside of the west wing. she said, north korea continues to give this administration reason for concern, that these missile tests have been very provocative all along, but they're not going to forecast what the next steps of this administration are going to be. >> reason for concern. jim, there's been a number of different messages from the trump administration just in the last 24 hours, including a speech from secretary tillerson at the united nations. >> reporter: that's right. you heard that speech in secretary tillerson, you have the president telling reuters that there's a very strong chance that we might have a military conflict with north korea.
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but at the same time, secretary of state tillerson told national public radio that the united states may be willing to engage in direct talks with pyongyang, that is directly in conflict with what vice president pence said when he was touring the region just a couple of weeks ago when he said that that's not going to happen. so, yes, lots of mixed messages coming from the administration so far. gives you an indication as to how they're going to navigate all this. k.t. mcfarland said this is the tenth failed missile launch that's occurred since president trump took office. it shows you why this is so top of mind for this administration, all of these weeks. john? >> jim acosta for us at the white house. thanks so much, jim. joining me now, cnn military and diplomatic analyst admiral john kirby and christiane amanpour. christiane, this missile launch comes on the heels of the speech
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at the united nations. comes after president donald trump said there's a possibility of, quote, a major, major conflict, the timing of this can't be coincidental? >> probably so, i'm not sure how long it takes to plan a missile launch. probably admiral kirby will know better than me. but what's absolutely clear, is that obviously we are at a very, very high crisis point in terms of this rhetoric and all the activity that's going on in north korea and the words that are coming out of the united states is really bringing us to a very dangerous point. and what you don't want is sort of policy made on the fly. policy on the hoof, obviously we have heard that the u.s. is undergoing a rather thorough north korea policy review, we have got the national security adviser, the defense secretary and others, but then you get words coming out of the white house like a major, major confrontation may be possible. and these are really, really difficult words to hear at a
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time like this, given the option that could come in any kind of conflict with north korea. >> admiral, the north koreans have done a number of missile launches since trump came to office. but this one comes after key meetings with china. this one comes after many official statements from the administration and the state department. you said earlier, you think this is kim jong-un giving the united states essentially the finger? >> i do, i believe that, but it's also kim giving china the finger, and perhaps even the u.n. i do think that was linked in time. if earlier reports were accurate and that was launched from a mobile launcher, he can set those up in rather short order. that's the most dangerous thing of his mobile missile program. the quickness with which he can launch these things. with all this talk coming out of washington and beijing, he's not listening. he's going to pursue his program.
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>> the fact that it doesn't appear to have worked, the fact that it exploded a little after liftoff, does that matter in and of itself? or is it the fact that they keep on trying, is that what's important here? >> as i said before, i don't think there's any such thing as failure in this program, every time he does something like this, whether it exceeds beyond his expectations or not, he adapts, and he folds those lessons in to the program going forward. if it is a kn-17, it's meant to go between 1,000 and 3,000 kilometers, obviously it fell very short of that. but we shouldn't dismiss this, every time he does it, he gets better. >> secretary of state tillerson did speak at the u.n. today laying out in more detail what the u.s. policy toward north korea is right now. he didn't rule out the military action but he said the goal the regime change.
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maybe open the door a little bit to the possibility of future negotiations. what do you see as the significance of what the secretary said today? >> it is quite significant, there is quite a lot of different words coming out from wherever you look and that needs now to be corralled into one disciplined full frontal message. and he did say, in fact after the security council, he talked to a reporter and he did say that he wasn't against direct negotiations. and this of course sort of boils down to the essence of it. certain administrations have said that the negotiations, his weakness is appeasement. and others have said let's try to do what we can to try to diffuse the whole north korea, south korea, u.s. sunshine policy diffusing sort of policy. and then north korea threw out the iaea inspectors, the only people that were actually
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watching their program full-time, got out of the nuclear nonproliferation treaty and it got to where it is now. but for a few moments under president george w. bush, we went to see the plant. we saw them wrapping it up. we saw them blow up the cooling tower. and there was a moment when things were going a bit better. but that took talks, it took negotiation and all that stuff. so we're waiting to see if there is some kind of coherent policy and we need to know kind of what north korea's bottom line and red lines are too, because some people don't think it wants to give up its nuclear program at all. >> when you hear the president of the united states, and again this is before the speech by the secretary of state to say there's a possibility of major, major conflict. the president speaks in hyperbolic terms, what-grow. >> there should be no such thing
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as hyperbolic terms for the president of the united states. the commander in chief of the strongest military in the world. i think the united states should get some high marks here with the disciplined, interagency problem they have been trying to conduct since coming to office. i don't think they get credit for it. it does not help when the guy at the top of that system is throwing out comments like that, people around the world have every right to take comments like that seriously and i can guarantee your that kim jong-un did and that's one of the reasons why he launched this missile today. >> thanks to much for being with us. i appreciate it. coming up, whose fault is it that trump's national security adviser now under investigation wasn't properly vetted? donald trump now says thanks, obama. really? that's next. he also says they he thought being president would be easier and he misses his old life. our panel weighs in on all of it when "360" continues.
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in tonight's russia white white house watch, president trump says he is not to blame for the mess surrounding the man he picked to be his national security adviser. it's president obama's fault, he says. this is about michael flynn, after failing to disclose payments got a russian speech at a russian television event. how could this not have come out in the vets process as he was being chosen as donald trump's national security advisor. >> i do feel badly for him. he served the country, he was a general. but just remember, he was approved by the obama administration at the highest level. and when they say we didn't vet, well, obama, i guess didn't vet because he was approved at the highest level of security by the obama administration.
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so when he came into our administration for a short period of time, he came in, he was already approved by the obama administration and he had years left on that approval. every network you see hits me on every topic made up stories, like russia, they do the faux russia, the russia story was made up because they were embarrassed by their loss. they had this tremendous loss, a loss like nobody's ever seen it's impossible for a republican to win, so they made up this russian thing to try and deflect because they were embarrassed by what happened. >> let me start with you, who should be. >> this is the person that's going to have the most highest clearance to be able to inform the president of the united states somebody else was responsible for the vetting,
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either the trump administration did not or did fully vet michael flynn -- during the transition when this vetting should have been taking place, then president electric trump was bashing the intelligence apparatus of the obama imagery. where is the collusion, which state went to donald trump because of russian collusion? please show it to me. >> jeffrey, i haven't seen the results of the investigation because the investigation is just getting under way. >> the fbi detector and the head
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you can't get away with saying somebody else was responsible for the vetting. the trump administration did not fully vet michael flynn were did fully vet michael flynn and were give him that job. >> during the transition when the vetting should have been taking place, president-elect trump was bashing the intelligence apparatus of the obama administration. the people he's bashing today, he is saying, he trust eed enou to vet michael flynn. >> let's look at the basics. the obama administration fired michael flynn. trump hired michael flynn. that's all you need to know here. and they hired him knowing his history. knowing that he did go to moscow and speak at that infamous event. so, knowing some things that would need you to say, you
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probably want to take a closer look at his background. so, this is classic, you know, case of trump deflecting, trying to push something off, you know, on obama that his administration >> jeffrey, let me put this to you. he said the russia story is completely made up. a phony story, made up by political opponents. i want to play you sound from the director of the fbi, james comey, who said this in march. >> the fbi, as part of our counterintelligence mission, is investigating the russian government's efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election. and that includes investigating the nature of any links between individuals associated with the trump campaign and the russian government, and whether there was any coordination between the campaign and russia's efforts. >> so, jeffrey, the president says that the russia story is a made-up story. is the fbi director making
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things up? >> the fbi director said investigating. the fbi director has produced zero proof. zero. the whole deal with carter page, for example. where is the there there? >> the story -- the story is the investigation. the story is the investigation. the story right now that's being reported by the media, which is president says is made up, is the investigation. if the fbi director says, we're investigating, how is the story made up? >> where is the collusion? where is the collusion? which state went to donald trump because of russian collusion? please, show it to me. >> i haven't seen the results of the investigation because the investigation is getting under way. >> the fbi director and the head of the dni, as i listened to their testimony, said they had no evidence that russians successfully interfered with votes. known. >> that's a different story. >> no, no. >> yes. >> i'm sorry, john, that would be collusion.
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and there is knonone. >> you can have ineffective collusion. there's many things that are ineffective. maggie hagerman, to you. in the coming days, we're going to get more testimony on the russia story, which is the investigation. >> i think the fbi director is coming back to testify again. >> it is not what you say, it is not a made-up investigation, in the sense that the investigation is taking place and we know this from sworn testimony. we do not know what the results of the investigation are going to be yet. people have a presumption of innocence in this country. that's fair to say. i would make a point that this is trump dragging it out. not just to deflect on the o baa administration. they fired mike flynn. that's how they felt about him. to say, we parted ways with mike
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flynn. i was unhappy with things at the end. we're confident nothing improper has done. he has refused to do any of that. now, we have a round of stories of him saying this is fake news. i understand, riles up his base. i don't see why this is helpful. >> stand by. tonight, president trump revealed when a vote could take place or he thinks it will take place on the health care reform bill in the works. and how his tax plan will affect him. we dive into both topics next.
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more breaking news tonight, president trump talks about when he thinks there will be a vote on the new health care bill. this is what he told fox news. >> i will tell you it took 17 months to get obamacare approved. what we're talking about is far better than obamacare. it's an incredible bill and we have a got shot at getting it approved by the house. and i told them, look, the 100 days don't worry about it. you don't have to take a vote today. take it in two weeks, get it done. >> they are going to get it
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done? >> i believe they will get it done. i believe next week. they're really coming together. >> the president also spoke about how he thinks his new tax plan would affect him. >> you keep forgetting to say that the biggest beneficiaries will be the middle class people that are absolutely being heard. >> companies like president donald trump's company whether will benefit -- will it be hard to get that big cut in the middle? >> if i'm individually paying 35%, i'm going to end up paying more than than i end up paying in taxes, i will pay more than i pay right now. >> all right, back now with the panel. david, first on health care. the president said it might come next week, i think that might be news to paul ryan as he sits here tonight. how close are the republicans to getting this passed? are they close? >> let's be clear, they don't have the votes yet, so they don't yet have the votes, there's not going to be a vote until they have one.
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they certainly don't want to go through again what they went through in the first round of this. there is no doubt that there has been momentum on the con servetive side, the freedom caucus, outside conservative groups, coming around this bill. what we have not seen any evidence of are moderates rallying around this bill in any way. it's gotten more conservative. so now put yourself, john, for a moment in the position of a moderate republican, who's in a competitive district and now has to decide, do i vote for this unpopular bill that is not going to be the final product? the senate is not going to pass this version. or do i turn down my president and my party and risk offending my base? that is a political consideration that moderates are going to have to make in the house. paul ryan doesn't have the votes yet. >> how much have they invested in this version, the right now of this effort? >> what is white house has invested in the right now, is the right now.
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they're not so concerned about what the product looks like, they want to get something done, and they wanted to get it done tonight. and that didn't happen, because they don't have the votes. they would like to get it done next week. i was surprised to hear the president say. i had the west wing aides say it to my privately. but it's still not clear that's going to happen, to your point. they are stymied by the fact that they can't get anything through, they think it will unclog the system, to just pass something at this point, and not just because it's a win, because they actually need other things to start passing through congress and it's all sort of delayed on this. they managed to get through the continuing resolution, but it's a very, very brief one and they still have work to do. >> jeffrey lord on taxes, the president claimed that under his plan he would pay more taxes
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than he is now. there are a couple of reasons that we question this, because number one, we don't have the details, the nitty gritty of the new tax plan. number two, we haven't seen his tax returns. we don't know how much he makes and where the money comes from, so how can we be sure that the president's paying more taxes? >> as someone who believes he should never reveal his taxes, even though i was young at the time, president kennedy was the first in the modern era to cut taxes. and i don't remember the press of the day running to president kennedy and saying how would this affect your father, ambassador kennedy and all of his businesses and would you financially benefit from a tax cut? that just never happened. all of a sudden it's donald trump and they're asking. i just think this is crazy, tax rate cuts are done to create jobs. that's what happened with ronald reagan, john f. kennedy, calvin coolid coolidge. it happens every time. >> it's just about trying to find out something about president trump or is it to try to find out who this benefits, who this tax cuts benefits in terms of what group of american people? >> first of all, the white house
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press corps is a lot better -- more aggressive than it was in the 1960s, so we don't want to go to the press corps of the kennedy era. >> or the obama era. >> i disagree with you there. tax rates of the kennedy era were near 90%, so absolutely cutting them had a pretty big effect, cutting from 39% to 35%, most economists will say is not going to have as big an effect as steve mnuchin said it will have in paying for itself. on your question, john, of course we want to know the relationship, between how any politician, democrat or republican, how that policy affects them personally, we have seen lots of examples throughout recent history, of politicians pushing ideas and policy that is benefit them and that is absolutely a core thing of what we as journalists do. it's a good question for trump. >> we're going to take a quick break, much more to discuss
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in a revealing new interview what reuters, president trump says being president is more work than his previous jobs. he thought it would be easier. he may be the only one surprised that being president is harder than running a reality tv host. he said he thought being president would be easy, he said it over and over again during the campaign. >> we're going to make america great again. it's going to be easy. it's very easy to be presidential. i have great people. we have top, top smart people, but it's so easy to do. we have drugs, we have debt, we have empty factories, that's going to end. that's going to end. so easy to solve. believe me the jobs are going to come back, this is so easy. this is so easy. i want to jump-start america and it can be done and it won't even be that hard. folks i'm going to do so much about it, it's going to be so
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easy. being presidential is much easier than what i have to do. >> now on the verge of his 100th day in the white house, which is tomorrow, the president said this to reuters. >> i loved my previous life. i loved my previous life. i had so many things, actually this is more work than my previous live, i thought it would be easier, i'm more of a details oriented person, i would i do miss my old life, i do like to work, that's not a problem, but this is actually more work. >> turns out it's more work. back, now, with the panel joining the conversation. david, first to you, he says, i thought it would be easier, he's just 99 days in? >> i'm not surprised that the -- he finds the job, john, to be something different maybe than he thought it was going to be.
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i think that was true for most presidents, it is such a unique job, it isn't possible to understand what it is until you're there. i'm not surprised that his perceptions have been altered. i am a little surprised to hear in his voice, in that reuters interview, a sort of longing or yearning, at the very least, making a clear preference to his former life. that's not is something i have heard from a president, not 100 days into the presidency. >> i do want to get to that in a moment. jeffrey lord, first, this is something that all presidents go through. and my only regret is i don't have a byte from ronald reagan to play for you on this story. >> i can give you a president kennedy story. >> let me give you a president obama story. let's listen to what president obama said about the job was different when he started. >> i am surprised compared to where we started when we first announced for this race by the
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number of critical issues that appear to be coming to a head all at the same time. >> with president trump, though, jeffrey, it was supposed to be different. part of the allure of then donald trump was, he was an executive. this was all going to be different for him. he was going to take a different approach to government. and as he said, it would be easier, isn't that the promise? >> i do think that all presidents go through this. and when you're candidates, i think they really do believe that all of them. the kennedy story i was talking about, after the bay of pigs, which was a disaster, jfk only in office until may, richard nixon, whom he defeated the previous november, and said to him, you can take this blank, blank job. harry truman used to call the white house the big white jail. once they get there, they do find its a little different than they imagine it to be. and i think president trump as number 45 is no different. >> although a lot of other presidents, fdr, teddy
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roosevelt, made clear that they loved the job and they relished the work. and, michael d'antoni, to your point, there was this wistful forlorn tone where president trump seemed to be talking about his former life. >> well, you're right. and i think that, if he had read a few biographies of presidents before he ran for president, he would have an idea that it would be a very, very hard job. i know he loved his previous live. he said i don't need this job, i'm not getting paid to do this campaign, it's really hard. and his previous life involved a lot of repetition, he was essentially making deals in the same way over and over again. and as president obama noted in your clip, this job in the white house throws something new at you every single day. i don't think he's happy. he may become happy in this job,
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he's not happy right now, you can tell. >> maggie, you spent some time with him, he talked about missing driving, among other things. he talked about being in the bubble. he talked to fox news about the fact that he can't come back to new york like he likes. >> this is interesting. i was thinking about this. his first trip back to new york city is going to be next week, and he's expected to stay here for that weekend. some have said that he would be here sooner than that, because those of us who have covered him for a long time and we have talked to a lot of people who were close to him that he is a home body. he did love his life, he loves trump tower and new york city. and he does have a concern about new york city but he did sound to be voicing something that i think everybody expected that he was going to be feeling, just not necessarily wearing quite so visibly. when he talked about the driving, i have never known him to be a large driver himself, although he had the instagram
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video that his wife posted a couple of years ago. if you think about the job he had before, he hasn't had a boss for decades and this is a job where he has to go and be accountable to somebody other than himself and it's very difficult. >> i will say the president of the united states is one of those jobs where the job description is readily available. most of the people -- i know they're all daunted. i think it's fair to expect that the job will be hard. >> i think it's fair to say that he is not somebody who spent the amount of time thinking about what he would do with the job or what it would actually be like as we have seen previous presidents do. but i do think you have to concede that they all come in a little bit cowed by what happens. >> sure. that's why we played the sound from president obama. one other part of the past, david, that president trump doesn't seem to want to let go of and rejoices in repeatedly is
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the election, from november 8. he recounted the story on stage today in front of the nra, apparently during in of these media interviews, he's pulled out the electoral map of the united states to show the red counties, the people who voted for him. he did it in a discussion with reuters when he was talking about china. what do you make of this? >> it's odd. i believe, if i'm not mistaken, that interview took place inside the oval office, so it's not like anyone's confused that he won the election because he's sitting behind the desk in the oval office. i think it hampers him a little bit, i really do. i get it. i mean that was an amazing victory, he should be incredibly proud of it. he is, he has every right to be. but i think hanging on to it in this way hampers him and it's what we have seen in the polls all along, from growing beyond just the level of support that he had from the people who voted for him on election day. he really, i would imagine would
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tomorrow, president trump plans to mark his 100th day in office with a rally in harrisburg, pennsylvania. we just learned that the vice president, mike pence, is expected to join him at this rally. this, they want to be a big, big deal, obviously. pennsylvania, a crucial swing state in the election, it went from blue to red. no matter how you rate the president's first 100 days, this is undeniably true -- there's been nothing like it in history. fortunately, we have a scholar of context with us tonight, presidential historian and author doris kearns goodwin joins me. so, doris, we're at the first 100-day mark tomorrow. and the president has really no legislative achievement at all. he's at record-low approval ratings. how much of a predictor is the first 100 days for the next 1,000 days? >> i don't think that the content of the first 100 days matters as much as what the
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president has learned from it. think about the kennedy presidency, he had the bay of pigs in his first 100 days. and he admitted he made a mistakes and he changed his decisionmaking structure. and that served him well f . >> he'd had lots of executive orders. the question is did he learn from what happened with the failure of repeal of obamacare. has he begun to expand a base beyond his ordinary base? is he self-reflective, and has he changed from campaigning to governing? and those are the deeper questions i think the 100 days can tell you about. at the end of fdr's hundred days, it was the people felt safe in his hands. >> on day 99 president trump gave a speech today before the
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nra, and in fact he was still talking about the campaign and all the states he turned red. so if you could answer some of the questions hepodes and they are the right questions, do you see any sign he's learned or changed? >> well, i think some of the signs you can look for a little positively is he said he realized healthcare is more complicated nobody knew. and it turns out the china/north korea relationship is more difficult than he thought. but the big thing i can't understand, is the campaign, he won. just take that as a self-confidence inside and forget what happened before and know you now have to be president of all the people not just the people who voted into the election. >> then there's the question of personality and bravado, which is key for having him in. he called her pocahontas.
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i'm not sure his definition of presidential jives with history. >> and we certainly haven't been bored, that's for sure. you know even when abraham lincoln was in presidency, he was a great debate, could probably speak spontaneously than anyone in his time. he never wanted to be speak spontaneously. he never wanted be unprepared. >> and the president had this conversation with reuters where he talked about the job. he wasn't as easy as he thought it would be. in some ways he seemed whistful for his past life. you know one success fls thing for presidency is having someone who loves his job. >> absolutely. fdr one time somebody asked him
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why would anyone want this terrible job, and he answered why wouldn't someone want this job? however much in the public eye, he could sort of control his agenda. he could sort of control what he wanted to do during the days. like you said, they are in a cocoon, and they can't drive a car. and all those little changes in our ordinary people lives, they have to give up. it is splendid to be president, and those who loved it, i think get a special energy from that. >> always a pleasure to talk with you. thanks so much. >> thank you, you, too. >> president trump marks his fist 100 days this weekend. anthony bourdain parts unknown kicks off his new season. he talks about his latin theme trip to los angeles. and anderson has to make a split second decision about a blood
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a new season of anthony bourdain kicks off this weekend on cnn. first up, a latin themed trip to los angeles that has become a ritual for anderson and anthony to grab a bite and charge it to the company and call it a preview of the new season. you are thinking it sounds easy. for how shall we put it for less adventurous eaters, it can be a dicey assignment. this time they visited a place here in new york. they spoke over blood sausage. >> this episode is set in los angeles. you had done an episode, i think a couple years back in korea town in los angeles.
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what's the focus this time? >> this time, less of a challenge but a similar one in that -- live entirely within the mexican community. it's about mexican identity. it's about los angeles's identity, because it's -- the spine -- the cultural spine, backbone, history of los angeles is inextricably entwined with mexican history. >> it's interesting to look at a place that we think we know -- los angeles -- like did you with korea town and with this, as you said, see another side of it that you rarely see before. that you only get little glimpses. >> i don't think we can emphasize enough how integral, how deeply ingrained, how much a
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part of our everyday lives rely on people who are not born in america. this is blood sausage. >> is that actual -- why is it called blood sausage? >> it's made from blood. it's really good. it's kind of squirty. >> it is an actual sausage? >> yeah. it coagulates with heat. >> it's really good. wow. >> we look at mexican and chicano identity. and then to make this an even more deeply satisfying episode, we got the -- one of my favorite actors on earth, we got danny traho and a restauranteur. serving healthy food and two locations. the nicest guy in the world and really one of my personal
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heroes. it was incredibly satisfying to shoot with him. >> we should have led with blood sausage tonight. catch it sunday on cnn 9:00 p.m. thanks for watching 360. time for jake tapper and "the lead," the first 100 days. thanks, john. day 99, kim jong-un tests another missile and tests the patience of the international community. "the lead" starts right now. breaking news north korea does it again. hours after the u.s. challenges the world to get tough on kim jong-un, another north korean test missile flies. and president trump tweets. the buck stops there? a new interview, president trump blames president obama for not vetting michael flynn. michael flynn whom obama fired. did president trump not know whom he had hired? plus, it was so much easier pretend firing gary busey. president trump saying