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welcome back. you're watching breaking news here on cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. moments ago, the white house daily briefing finished, exhibiting what cnn's political director, david chalian, just told me was a crisis of credibility. once again, administration officials had to readjust their accounts of what exactly led president trump to fire the director of the fbi, james comey. the initial reason was that it was based upon recommendations by the deputy attorney general, which was totally tossed out based upon this nbc interview that the president sat down for a little while ago. minutes before the briefing, he revealed that he was planning to fire jim comey no matter what he was advised. here he was. >> look, he's a showboat, she's a grandstander. the fbi has been in turmoil. i know that, you know that, everybody knows that. you take a look at the fbi a year ago, it was in virtual
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turmoil. less than a year ago, it hasn't recovered from that. >> monday, you met with the deputy attorney general, rod rosenstein. >> right. >> did you ask for a recommendation? >> what i did is, i was going to fire comey, my decision. it was not -- >> you had made the decision before -- >> i was going to fire comey. there's no good time to do it, by the way. >> because in your letter, you said, i accepted their recommendation. >> yeah, well -- >> you had already made the decision? >> oh, i was going to fire regardless of recommendation. he made a recommendation, he's highly respected. very good guy, very smart guide. the democrats like him, the republicans like him. he made a recommendation, but regardless of recommendation, i was going to fire comey. >> let me ask you about your termination letter to mr. comey. you where, "i greatly appreciate you informing me on three separate occasions that i am not under investigation." why did you put that in there? >> because he told me that. >> he told you you weren't under
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investigation with regard to the russian investigation. was it in a phone call? did you meet face to face? >> he had dinner with me. he wanted to have dinner. he wanted to stay on. >> he asked for the dinner? >> that dinner was arranged. i think he asked for the dinner and he wanted to stay on as the fbi head, and i said, i'll consider, you know, weh'll see what happens. but we had a very nice dinner and at that time he told me, you are not under investigation. which i knew anyone. >> that was one meeting. what were the other two? >> first of all, when you're under investigation, you're giving all sorts of documents, i knew i wasn't under. i heard it was stated at the committee level that i wasn't, number one. >> so that didn't come directly from him? >> then during a phone call, he said it. and then during another phone call, he said it. he said it once at dinner and he said it twice during phone calls? >> did you call him? >> in one case i called him and in one case, he kalled me. >> did you ask, am i under investigation? >> i actually asked him. i said, if it's possible, would you let me know, am i under
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investigation? he said, you are not under investigation. >> but he's given sworn testimony that there's an ongoing investigation into the trump campaign and possible collusion with the russian government. you were the centerpiece of the trump campaign. >> well, all i can tell you -- >> was he truthful -- >> i know that i'm not under investigation, me, personally. i'm not talking about campaigns or anything else. i'm not under investigation. >> let's begin there with sara murray. she was in that briefing and had a couple of great questions. sara murray, talk to me about how sarah sanders tried to explain the shifting stories coming out of the white house on why comey was fired? >> brook, we are getting a very different explanation today from the president himself saying that he made this decision, even before he got recommendations from his attorney general and his deputy attorney general. that's not what we were hearing from basically every other white house official from the last two days. sarah huckabee sanders pretty much dismissed this and said the
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president ultimately makes the decision. but we know through the excellent reporting of my colleagues evan perez and pam brown that rod roserosenstein w not particularly pleased to have jim comey's firing pinned on him. i asked sarah sanders if that was a mistake. here's what she said. >> was it a mistake to try to pin the firing of james comey on rod rosenstein? >> i don't think there was an attempt to pin the firing of -- i think his recommendation was extremely clear. the president, though, makes the decision, the buck stops with him. nobody's ever tried to say that this wasn't the president's decision, that he wasn't the one that carried it out. and to try to conflate those things, it's just not what took place. >> reporter: now, again, this is just the latest instance, and we've seen it again and again over the last couple of days, of the white house struggling to get their story together on this bombshell decision.
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we know it's something the president made of his own accord. he made that clear during the nbc interview and we know he made it very quickly and left his staff scrambling to explain it. and we've seen the ramifications of that in the last couple of days, brooke. >> sara, thank you at the white house. as we're learning what exactly led to the firing of james comey, the white house continues to switch their versions. now we have the president telling nbc news he was going to fire comey regardless of anyone's rmgsecommendations. so tom foreman, i want you to join me. we need to look at dates on a calendar and understand exactly what they said and when? >> i think looking at the dates don't make it clear. they maybe make it a little more confusing. this is like in the heat of the election last year, july 5th. that's when james comey came out and said hillary clinton did a lot of bad things with her e-mail, didn't break any laws, he wasn't going to charge her. he went and explained that to congress. he came out right before the election and said there are new e-mails we have to look at.
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democrats went out of their minds over this so close to the election, then said, nothing has changed, the election happens. all through this process, democrats were furious at james comey and donald trump was saying say ing positive things about him. saying good for the fbi, good for james comey standing up and doing what's right. then we get down into this year. and even after the inauguration, here's trump meeting with mr. comey. they're at the white house, they're shaking hands. he's saying, i think you're more famous than i am. everything looks like it's going just fine. all of this time, if you look at the timeline, all of this was very positive for donald trump in terms of what james comey did. it produced a positive effect. here comes a big change. all of a sudden in march, comey confirms, when he's speaking to congress that, yes, the fbi is investigating possible russian collusion in this election and that includes looking at the
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trump team and what they might have been doing. we move on to the most recent testimony where he talks about the clinton e-mails with huma abedin and everything, and there seems to be false statements being made there, where the white house can now say, these were mistakes of his. and there's this question of him asking for more money or resources for the investigation, which the department of justice says did not happen. but it all leads up to comey being fired here. if you listen to what the white house is saying and what the president is saying wesktively what he's saying is this plainspoken candidate, the guy who always said what he thought, that all this time, he actually had problems with james comey. that he was never really in james comey's corner, and he was always thinking about getting rid of him, and finally decided to finish it off. but if you will be to critics of this administration, they're saying, no, this is where it all happened. once you got past the inauguration, once it became clear that russia was a big item on the investigative plate of james comey, that's when the president started seeing big
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problems with what he does. how we're going to find the truth in this, i don't know, brook. but this is not so much a timeline right now, as a time tangle. >> tom foreman, thank you very much. let me bring in cnn's senior political reporter, nia-malika henderson, karen lee, and cnn justice correspondent, pamela brown. so coming off of tom's timeline of sorts, carol, to you first. i'm listening to sarah sanders in that briefing and she was almost forced to admit, because of what the president said to nbc today, forced to admit, she has come out in the last couple of days with not all the information. >> yeah, and not just her, but also white house press secretary sean spicer, who started this, who answered the first questions about the timing o of this and the motivation and how it all went down and we heard from
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sarah yesterday and then we heard from the president and sarah again today. and this has been a very bumpy messaging operation for them on this. it's obviously, >> isn't it more than bumpy, carol? to quote david chemical i know, it's a crisis of credibility here from the white house. >> if you're going to do something this substantial as fire the director of the fbi, you would think you would have a process in place for explaining how that all happened. and they have increasingly lost credibility in the last three days, based on, you know, the initial reason that they said that the president had fired director comey, then to say that, you know, you've been thinking about this for some time, skand to blame other thin. and we've learned a number of things about how he was feeling in the weeks leading up to this. it is a crisis of confident in what the white house says and whether or not we can take what they say as what actually happened and they're going to have to find a way to try to reinth this in and clear it up.
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>> pamela brown, your job is covering the justice beat. so when you hear this conversation from the president saying that he had three conversations with comey, under which he said, you are not under investigation. you hear sarah sanders today saying she's spoke to countless members of the intelligence community, questions of conflicts of interest of interest arise, how is that okay? >> it certainly violates policy put in place by past attorney generals that prohibits direct communication between the fbi and the white house involving sense ty investigations, such as th this, of course the russia probe and collusion with the trump campaign. there is strict protocol and that protocol is in place to protect the independence of the fbi and the department of justice, because without that independence, there could be, of course, massive ramifications. sop i have to tell you, when i
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hear sarah sanders say that in the briefing, that she's talking to these fbi agents, particularly at a time when there's an ongoing russia probe, that really makes you wonder and raises a lot of questions. but also the idea that the president spoke with james comey on three different occasions, and james comey, according to the president, told him he's not under investigation, raises a lt of questions about what's going on here. i was speaking to some legal analysts before coming on your show, brooke, and they said, where was white house counsel during all of this? don mcgan. white house counsel is to supposed to advise the president not to ask these kind of questions to the fbi when there's an ongoing investigation like this. one legal analyst i spoke to believes that it was inappropriate. so i think this is going to be sort of an ongoing discussion here, brook, about why is this is happening. >> and you know, when you're with the president calling comey and asking if he's under investigation, i was talking to a former federal prosecutor this hour, asking if he could file this under the category of
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obstruction of justice, which opens an entirely different can of worms. nia, to you on that and also, what about the legal leadership in this country, the dag, rod rosenstein, and also, you know, the ag, jeff sessions. when will they speak up? >> it's unclear, we have had some of our reporting obviously showing that the deputy ag there was unhappy with the way his name was put into this, essentially saying that he was the one that recommended to the president that he remove comey. and if you look at that initial letter, he actually doesn't use that phrase, that he recommends the firing of the fbi director. sessions does use that very phrase, recommend that comey's removal. so, yes, this is supposed to be sort of the law skpoeand order president, right? but in some ways, he seems to think that law enforcement officials, the fbi is sort of the arm of the white house.
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and sort of his security arm and james comey should somehow be loyal to him rather than law and order. so that seems to have really ruffled him. this idea that maybe comey was more famous than him, that he was showboating a bit too much. i mean, pot meet kettle in terms of that. but he seems to kind of, you know, for if you're trump, that is certainly rubs you the wrong way. because if you're trump, you want the spotlight, what you say is supposed to go, and to see comey there, i think, disagreeing with him and not backing him up on some of his key claims, particularly around the president, the former president supposedly wiretapping his phones, that didn't sit well with him. also out of this briefing today, there's something incredible that happened today. this idea that the president is setting up a commission to investigate voter fraud, right? to investigate this idea, this sort of myth that he has come up with that there were millions of people who voted illegally on election day.
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>> a total myth. total myth. >> it's a total myth. and this idea that he is using sort of government resources and government time to investigate this, i mean, this is a problem. that they're using the apparatus of a government, of our government, to sort of back up his myth and his lie. i mean, that was, i think, a disturbing thing that came out of today, as well. >> i'm glad you brought that up, nia, thank you so much. ladies, thanks to all of you. i've got to continue on and talk more about the breaking news, including the question, was the firing just at the end of the day really personal? what sources close to the president are telling cnn about the personal relationship between these two men. also ahead, this revealing profile takes us behind the scenes of a dinner at the white house. what president trump considers one of the greatest inventions of all time and why he gets two scoops of ice cream when everyone else gets one. we've got it all for you. you're watching cnn, i'm brooke baldwin. what makes this simple salad the best simple salad ever?
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welcome back. i'm brooke baldwin. revealing new testimony today from the fbi's new interim director, contradicting the white house on the firing of former fbi director, james comey. the white house had suggested that comey lost confidence with rank and file among the men and elm with of t women with the fbi. not so according to acting fbi director, andy mccabe today. >> is it accurate that the rank and file no longer supported director comey? >> no, sir, that is not create. i can tell you that i hold director comey in the absolute highest regard. i have the highest respect for his considerable abilities and his integrity and it has been the greatest privilege and honor of my professional life to work with him. >> so this comes as president trump, today, sat down for an interview with nbc news and said
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he planned to fire director comey, no matter what, despite any sort of recommendation and he went on to call comey both a showboat and a grandstander. so let's go to capitol hill and talk tour congressional correspondent, sunlen serfaty. we've heard from acting director mccabe. how is the white house reacting to his words today? >> reporter: well, they're in essence, brooke, continuing to say, that's basically not what we've heard coming out of the fbi. and the reason, again, why we're talking about this and why the differ, opinion is so significant is this was primarily one of the central and core arguments coming from the white house for the reason that president trump decided to fire james comey, saying that he had lost confidence within the fbi. so mccabe, coming out today and saying, that's not the feeling that he got, a 20-year veteran within the fbi, that comey still has confidence. he has described it as broad confidence, the rank and file
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still believes in him. those are pretty strong words. but the white house today really holding firm to this talking point. we heard sarah huckabee sander saying she heard from what she described as a large amount of people within the fbi over text messages, over phone calls, saying the opposite. here's what she said earlier today. >> well, i can speak to my own personal experience. i've heard from countless members of the fbi that are grateful and thankful for the president's decision. and i think that, you know, we may have to agree to disagree. i think there are some people that are disappointed, but i've certainly heard from a large number of individuals and that's just myself and i don't even know that many people in the fbi. >> reporter: now, beyond that contradiction coming from the hearing today, earlier with andy mccabe, there were numerous others, most importantly, the extent of how he described the russia investigation. he, today, when pushed by democrats, he called it a highly significant investigation. that, again, in contradiction to
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how the white house, of course, wants to paint this, only 24 hours ago, the white house saying that it was probably one of the smallest things on the fbi's plate. so some contradiction there, of course. that said, andrew mccabe wanted -- he almost took pains today to express this that investigation continues on, that it hasn't been affected by the firing, and that the focus does remain, brooke? >> sunlen, thank you so much, in d.c. coming up next, a photographer from russian state tv made his way into the oval office. and a white house official says they had no idea who this guy really was. how the heck did that happen and what kind of security threat does it pose? we'll talk to a former secret service agent to discuss. th an d mileage warranty on your certified pre-owned mercedes-benz, you can drive as far as you want for up to three years and be covered. so no matter where you go, your peace of mind and confidence will be as your mileage.
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the white house press secretary today firing back at reporters after continued questions over how the president came to his ultimate decision to fire james comey, the fbi director, and what exactly transpired in the nearly 48 hours since then. it's just been 48 hours, folks. here is sarah huckabee sanders in an attempt to clarify again. >> i'm going to read it to you all again just to make sure we're all on the same page, because i want the sequence of events to be perfectly clear to everyone. the president over the last several months lost confidence in director comey. after watching director comey's testimony last wednesday, the president was strongly inclined to remove him. on monday, the president met with the attorney general and
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the deputy attorney general and they discussed reasons for removing the director. the next day, tuesday, may 9th, the deputy attorney general sent his written recommendation to the attorney general and the attorney general sent his written recommendation to the president. >> let's start there. i've got ana navarro there, cnn political commentator, and ken cuccinelli, former arizona attorney general, who serves as president of the senate conservatives fund and supports the firing of james comey. so good to have both of you on, two different voices here. ken, let me begin with you. you heard sarah sanders at the briefing. she was forced to clarify because of the president's interview today on nbc news. there have been all kinds of holes in the white house's version of events that have now been, i guess, clarified further because of the president today. how do you explain that? >> well, first of all, if you look at rod rosenstein's letter, it's pretty -- just in length, it's short. i mean, he was very
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substantiative in it, but it was short. and you certainly come to the conclusi conclusion, well, this is perfectly legitimate, but shuler, there's more thinking and so on. and i think we're just seeing that being reflected now. i think they're putting it in the form of a timeline was useful, but really, this was the right decision, not necessarily done the right way. >> well, it sounds like the rod rosenstein letter was just in impertinent based upon what the president told lester holt, that he made this call irrespective of anyone's recommendations, which is in total contradiction to the original story from the white house. >> maybe so, right, and he says things like that. but, look, rosenstein was the first career professional in the hierarchy, you know, jeff sessions came from the senate, of course. and then you had a career person, as is traditional for the deputy attorney general, and less than two weeks in, they had this discussion and he made his recommendation. and had the career professionals said the opposite, i kind of
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wonder whether this would have happened at all. so, the president, you know, speaks strongly, uses strong words, sometimes high peesh hyp, but i think he made the right decision here. and thery could have gone about it a better way. >> ana navarro, how do you see it? >> i see it as somebody's lying somewhere. i think this white house is like a cat with a long tail who's stepping on their own tail. they keep contradicting themselves. and there's other people out there that keep contradicting the lies they say. and this is why it's mattered as donald trump was tracked as having told 184 lies in his first 100 days. because now in his next 100 days, when he wants people to believe him, we don't, because we are so used to him being the pinocchio of president, it become v. hard to believe anything he says, particularly when the story keeps changing
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over and over and over again. and my request, my plea to my party, to the leaders of my party, is that, you know, that they remain loyal to the american people, to the search for the truth. if i were a trump supporter, i would want this to be flushed out. i would want to know the answer, because if not, this president is going to fade within his 3 1/2 remaining years, carrying the cloud around him, carrying the albatross around his neck that at least half the country thinks he's saying lies. thinks he may have been or his campaign may have been committing collusion with russia. let's get the truth out! maybe we're wrong! >> brooke -- >> go ahead, mr. attorney general. jump in on his growing nose. >> two quick points. >> one, all of the questions and concerns that have been raised in part about how this has been done. i mean, let's remember, it was a bipartisan effort to call for
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comey to be gone. just now, other people have other concerns. however, however, the burden is very much on the white house now to come up with a proposed nominee, who is beyond reproach. this is going to be somebody like a judge who has a track record of performing as man or woman of integrity, in difficult circumstances, and they're going to have a hard senate hearing. that's going to be the case. and the burden is on them. point two. look at who the acting director of the fbi is? he's essentially a democrat. his wife ran for office in my home state, just two years ago, he was in the political literature, got $700,000 from the clinton machine. none of that says he will or won't do a good or bad job, but it isn't like president trump got rid of comey so mccabe could be there running the russian investigation. these investigations, as now acting director mccabe said today, quite correctly, i believe, the professionals of
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the fbi will carry them forward, just as they would have day-to-day, regardless of the firing of director comey. >> it's a good point on who they selected to be the top brass of the fbi. ken, staying with you, do you think at the end of the day this firing was just downright personal? do you think the president had a beef with jim comey? >> i don't think it was personal at all. >> not a loyalty thing. >> no. when you've got people like alan dershowitz and me, who see the law differently, but are both committed to the law, thinking comey should go and you saw democrats and republicans, comey -- >> but he called him a showboat! >> -- dug his own hole. and one thing comey said beyond the rosenstein letter, by the standards of a director of the fbi, comey in the last year or two really had become a grandstander and that's no what you want in your chief federal investigator. >> so you agree with the president's assessment in calling him a grandstander and a showboat. let's remember, though --
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>> which, by the way, there is such great irony about donald j. call -- >> i think you're reading my mind. >> -- showboating, that is all he has done practically his entire life opinion. >> there's that -- >> very different for the director of the fbi. >> let's remember when donald trump called out -- and many people did -- you know, loretta lynch and bill clinton and their chat on a tarmac and let's remember it was his wife who was running for president who was under federal investigation. but yet, now you have, you know, these apparent phone calls, at least according to the president, between him and jim comey asking whether or not he's under investigation when it's his campaign that's being investigated. how do you square that, ana navarro? >> i don't. i think if you try to square it away, you are either suffering a mild case of loss of memory or an acute case of hypocrisy. because if you find bill clinton sitting with loretta lynch on a
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plane objectionable, surely you should find donald trump sitting with the director of the fbi over dinner and asking him directly about an ongoing investigation equally objectionable? and i think one of the things that the american people are tired of is the inconsistency and hypocrisy among politicians, amongst the governing class in washington and in government. be consistent, if you find one thing troubling, the other thing is just as troubling, if not more. because you're talking about the principle involved. >> and i think you'll see sympathetic -- >> quickly, ken. >> very quickly, in the sthath. the senate republicans are going to do their jobs here. and i'm not always that encouraging about senate republicans, but there is going to be a high standard for this nominee, both parties are going to hold that individual to a high standard. i think that's good for america and it will bring discipline to the choice itself. the nominee that will be advanced by the president. >> ken cuccinelli and ana navarro, thank you both. here's to the truth. here's to the truth. coming up next, a white house official tells cnn they were tricked.
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let's talk about some concerning words straight out of the white house today after the president met with russian officials yesterday. the quote from the white house meeting, they tricked us. from one white house official, saying that they were blindsided when a russian state news agency posted these photographs of this will oval office meeting between president trump, the russian foreign minister, and the russian ambassador to the united states. by the way, the u.s. press pool was not allowed into the white house for said meeting with these russian leaders. and cnn didn't get any official photos from the white house until moments ago, when they mo posted these to their flickr account. although, although there are no
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pictures of president trump with sergey kislyak, the now fi ambassador now fired michael flynn spoke to. michelle kosinski with us, and a former secret service agent himself. so, michelle, let me just begin with you. just even the notion that the russian ambassador was, you know, in the white house, but i guess, not in any of these photos, and there was no mention of kislyak in the official white house readout of the meeting. >> yeah, so i think this is very interesting. it was a difficult position for the white house, because here's normal protocol. kislyak, the ambassador, is going to be with the russian foreign minister during his visit. he's going to be there, he's going to be in the oval office. it's not as if the white house can say, no, no, no, you stay
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out. the white house has welcomed this ambassador into the united states, even though intelligence sources have told cnn that he's like a spy master that he's the top russian spy in america, that he's a spy recruiter. still, he's the russian ambassador to the u.s. so the white house lets him in. even, you know, avoiding a handshake with him would have been difficult. but what makes this strange, you see these big smiling photographs. president trump grinning in a huge, friendly way with kislyak in the oval office. it's the timing of this. i mean, one day after president trump fires the fbi director who was in charge of investigating trump campaign contact with russia. so, it's really the sensitivity of this. and that big washington word, the optics. so what the white house might have done is at least, if you feel like you're going to have to take a photo with this guy
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who's been at the heart of so many issues -- >> the center of the probe! >> yeah, the national security adviser who had met with him prior to the inauguration, he was fired for lying about that meeting with kislyak. the attorney general had to recuse himself from investigations involving russia, because he didn't tell congress during his confirmation hearings that he had been meeting with kislyak. so there's all of this strangeness surrounding it. b the president probably should have taken a very serious-looking photo with him at the very least. but you have the white house saying, well, we didn't even think that the russian's official photographs would get out there, somehow. >> surprise! >> yeah, the quote from this white house official was, they tricked us, and that's the problem with the russians, they lie. >> well, tricked or not, jonathan, the other concern is that photographer who apparently was said to have been sergey lavrov, the foreign minister's,
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you know, photographer, turns out he's state tv. >> absolutely. >> arm of the kremlin. and all the questions and concerns he got into the oval office. how could that possibly happen? >> well, he was invited into the oval office as part of the official delegation. to michelle's point earlier, this is an optics issue, this is not a security issue. >> it's not? >> it's not a security issue. here's why, the secret service, the white house, they have policies and procedures to allow foreign press toll co come on t complex, have their equipment screened, even into into the oval office as part of a joint pool spray or as an official photographer. they take their photographs when they leave. there's a very comprehensive program set up around, you know, sweeping the oval office. >> that's one of the concerns. >> it's a major concern. >> bug the oval office. >> and it's not just a concern with the russians. it's a concern anytime a foreign national enters the white house.
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and anytime a foreign national enters the oval office, it's a risk. but that vulnerability has been identified by the secret service and there's mitigating action that they take. the program is technical surveillance countermeasures. it's a very comprehensive and technical program to search and hunt out listening devices, whether it's in the oval office or anywhere that the president goes. so this is something that has happened, you know, administration after administration, so in this instance, i've got to say that security policies and procedures were followed and there was no issue with allowing that photographer in. this is just an optics issue. >> jonathan, thank you. it is indeed, 24 hours after what happened. michelle, thank you, as well. coming up next on cnn, president trump praising tivo as one of the greatest inventions of all time. the crystal chandelier he personally purchased to spruce up the white house. some of these details from a new "time" magazine interview.
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the night before president trump decided to fire james com comey, he invited three correspondents from "time" magazine for an intimate tour of the white house. so they were shown the golden walls. the crystal chandelier he per n personly contribuperso personally contributed. and here to talk all things tivo and ice cream -- >> i'm an sxernt expert in all things. >> i like two scoops, too. but let's start with some of the die tails. president trump was apparently flipping lieu tthrough tivo. didn't know that still existed. and president said former director of national intelligence james clapper and former acting attorney general sally jats said the following, watch them start to choke like dogs. watch what happens. they are desperate for breath.
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and the way the "time" writers wrote it almost like a develop going over game tape. what did you think? >> yeah, i mean, look, this shouldn't be terribly surprising though for any other president we would be surprised. but donald trump likes to watch a lot of cable television. he just does. you can tell from his twitter feed. you can tell from his comments during interviews. you can tell from way back during the campaign when he was asked where he got his military advice and he said and i quote on from the shows. this is what he does. other people bowl for a living. you know, he likes to watch television. >> and we just wish maybe he would do more interviews. the president touted his accomplishments, reducing cost for firt jet, denied rumors on hv mcmaster saying i'm happy with him, but he also talked health care. quote, there was a mistake. we set a date and when we didn't vote everyone says trump fails on health care. and even responded to the combativeness of the white house, he said, quote, it could be my fault. i don't want to necessarily
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blame, but there is a great meanness out there that i'm surprised at. i mean i'm surprised. a meanness out there. >> on first of all no one goes third person like donald trump. he refers to himself as donald trump a lot. >> he does. >> and on the other point, look, what is fascinating is in that one sentence on him making the meanness, he says maybe i'm the blame for it, but really it's because the society is mean. i mean that is donald trump in a nutshell. >> not owning it. >> two things are just absolutely contradictory. he just says them back to back. >> and then finally brooke baldwin thanks you for that by the way. and finally, you know, everyone is talking about the two scoops of ice cream. and apparently this little nugget came out of this "time" magazine piece where the president gets two scoops and everyone else around the table gets one and no word if there were sprinkles.
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>> right. the broader point here is that they were trying to make in the "time" article is the white house staff hassed a danted to durd's tastes. so when everyone else gets water, he get as diet coke. when everyone else gets one scoop of ice cream, he gets two. my two children would gladly be president if they could get double the number of scoops of ice cream. so not a terrible platform to run on. >> if we were getting ice cream, i'd make sure you got two scoops. >> am i your vice president? >> no you would be eating fruit if you were. >> good point. and i never ever eat fruit. duly noted, sir. thank you so much. coming up next, the president's very first interview since he fired the fbi director today, he contradicted the story his white house has been telling for the last two days why he says he planned to fire comey all along. you do all this research
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this is horse cunning where betting, breeding and selling of horses is big business. 16.5 million visitors travel to louisville every year and 1.5 million come just for the kentucky derby. but horses aren't the only attraction in town. here under the louisville shoe is the only underground zip line in the u.s. >> it's a former 100 acre underground limestone pit mine in the middle of metropolitan louisville. there is a lot of zip lines that go from place to place. we hit that unique factor for them. >> reporter: this cavern was built in the 1930s.
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there are 17 miles of corridors which are the perfect temperature to house hershey's chocolate and top secret government documents. but the biggest attraction is the mega zip, a 100 foot drop into darkness. >> we do have a lot of people that get nervous, they can't see how deep the xwrouground is bel them, it looks like an eternal pit. we just talk them through it, sometimes give them a nudge of encouragement. >> a little -- nudge -- of encouragement. >> zipping. three, two, one. go! >> and before we turn things over to jake, donald trump called rosie o'donnell --
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actually i won't repeat it. but he's chosen to retweet a tweet when she said fire company any. the president saying we finally agree on something, rosie. i'll leave that for you to discuss. i'm brooke baldwin. thanks for being with me. "the lead" starts now. president trump just called someone else a showboat and grand stander. "the lead" starts now. breaking news, president trump for the first time giving a full personal explanation of his firing of fbi director james comey. and he ended up on an entirely different page and chapter than his white house. >> spiiand today the new acting director faced the senate and endorsed the character and fooibl support ffbi support for the man he replaced. and plus homeland security chief says it's the threat that keeps him up at night and now