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prompt false conspiracy theories and other people's agendas rather than work with the family to learn the truth. with that, the story seemed to finally lose one of its biggest champions. >> out of respect for the family's wishes for now, i am discussing this matter at this time. >> even so today, the story lives on. >> there's some question as to whether the intrusion at the dnc server was an insider job or whether or not it was the russians. >> what evidence -- i'm sorry. the insider job, what are you referring to here? i hope it's not this information that fox news just refused to be reporting. >> there is stuff on the internet. >> tom foreman, cnn, washington. >> there's stuff circulating on the internet. an elected official representing us. it's the top of the hour. breaking news from the campaign trail. the alleged assaulted reporter by one of the candidates in what
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could be a bell weather special election for montana's seat. body slamming ben jacobs. here is the audio posted by the guardian. >> you know, you were waiting to make your decision about health care. it just came out. >> we will talk to you about that later. >> i'm just curious -- >> speak with shane. >> sick and tired of you guys. the last guy that came in here, you did the same thing. get out of here! get the hell out of here! the last guy did the same thing. you with the guardian? >> yes. you broke my glasses. >> the last guy did the same thing. >> you body slammed me and broke my glasses. >> get the hell out of here. >> i would like to call the police. can i get your names? he body slammed me. >> moments ago the candidate's spokesman issued a statement.
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tonight, as greg was giving a separate interview, the guardian's ben jacobs entered the office without permission, aggressively shoved a recorder in greg's face and began asking questions. jacobs was asked to leave. you heard the questions he was asking about the congressional budget office score. after asking jacobs to lower the recorder, jacobs declined. greg then attempted to grab the phone that was pushed in his face. jacobs grabbed greg's wrist and spun away from greg pushing them both to the ground. the statement concludes, it's unfortunate that this aggressive behavior from a liberal journalist created this scene at our campaign volunteer barbecue. you interviewed the candidate a few hours before this confirmation. how did he seem to you? this issue of the congressional budget office thing, the reason it's timely is because he had resisted making a public declaration about it until the cbo released their score. that's why the reporter was
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asking about it. >> and i actually asked him the same question. i interviewed him three hours before this confrontation. i met with him, spent some time with him. he answered several questions. he did talk about health care. he said he needed to study the cbo score. he needed to look at the further details. this is a difficult dance for him. he seemed very willing to talk about it. i interviewed him about a month prior as well. his demeanor seemed similar today as it was a month ago. certainly, he is under pressure. it's the day before the special election. his campaign is on overdrive. he is trying to hit as many spots as possible. that is certainly wearing on him. he didn't seem any different than he was a month ago. his demeanor very similar. you heard his voice, his elevated voice. that was his voice. he has a very distinctive, loud
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voice. that was certainly him on that audio recording. as far as whether or not he seemed more aggressive or any different, he didn't seem that way to me. >> we should point out the guardian published an article that basically stated that this candidate held i think more than $100,000 or something in investments in two index funds that were i guess heavily invested in russia or russia index funds. i guess did not like that article. you are about to interview the democratic candidate. he is the underdog in this race. have they -- how are they responding to this incident? >> i went in to speak to his press person. she said that they were going to refrain from commenting on this right now. they really want to just see this play out on the national level. here in montana, they don't it's beneficial at all to have this sort of thing come in on the local level. we have gotten a statement from the dccc, the campaign arm of
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house democrats and what the dccc is saying is that he needs to pull out of the race. certainly, we're not getting any indication that that's going to be happening. rob quist is expected to arrive here shortly. he will meet with campaign supporters before the special election, before polls up at 7:00 a.m. montana time. from the indication i got from his campaign, he is going to try to get through the day, try to be pleasant, get montana people to vote for him on local state issues. >> it's interesting that in the statement they -- that they put out, they said that this was a liberal reporter. that's clearly not an accident they inserted that in the statement. we spoke by phone to buzzfeed's alexis levinson. had a partial view. here is what he had said. a reporter who was outside the room, she joins us now by phone. you were outside of this room. what did you see or hear?
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>> so we were all -- this was the campaign meet and greet. there was a main room where a lot of volunteers were making phone calls, we were waiting for a campaign event. there was a side room where a tv crew -- a local tv crew was set up to do an interview. john forte went in there. the door was half open. ben walked in to listen in. so i had a half view. all of a sudden i heard giant crash, saw ben's feet fly in the air. >> i want to read the statement from the campaign. i want to play you the audio so you can see if you think it jives. tonight as greg was giving an interview, ben jacobs entered without permission, shoved a recorder in greg's face, began asking questions. you hear the question -- you will hear the questions. they're about the congressional budget office. he was asked to leave. that seemed to happen. they were trying to brush him
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off. after asking jacobs to lower the recorder, jacobs s declined. i'm not sure i heard that. greg attempted to grab the phone in his face. ye it's unfortunate this aggressive behavior from a liberal journalist created this. >> you know you were waiting to make your decision about health care until you saw the bill and it just came out. >> we will talk to you about that later. >> i'm curious -- >> speak with shane. >> i'm sick and tired of you guys. the last guy who came in here did the same thing. get the hell out of here! get the hell out of here! the last guy did the same thing. you with the guardian? >> yes. you just broke my glasses. >> the last guy did the same thing. >> you body slammed me and broke my glasses. >> get the hell out of here.
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>> you would like me to get out of here. i would like to call the police. can i get you guys' names? he just body slammed me. >> you just heard that. it says after asking jacobs to lower the recorder, jacobs declined. i didn't hear any audio of that. i don't know if anybody at home did. i don't think you did. greg attempted to grab the phone. that maybe happened. jacobs grabbed greg's wrist pushing them both to the ground. there's no video if they both ended up on the ground. perspective from our panel. the statement, how does it jive with what you heard? >> it doesn't sound the same. like you said, it doesn't sound like both people fell to the ground. the reporter is saying, you body slammed me and nobody is disputing it. nobody is saying, that's not what happened. they're not disputing it. i will say that if the reporter forced their way into an office, that's inappropriate.
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that said, the response to that is never physical violence. i don't think that what the reporter was doing was overly aggressive questioning. it was asking a couple questions that seemed reasonable and should be answered. the rage that came back seemed a little disproportionate to what was happening. >> matt? >> yeah. i didn't really see how the statement in that audio we heard added up. he asked about the cbo score and tried to follow up when he was brushed off. then to -- it didn't sound like there was a scuffle. it sounded like he was attacked. he immediately said, i was just -- you body slammed me. that's not something you just come up with off the top of your head that you make up. i will say, the statement tries to politicize it right away calling him a liberal reporter. he is not. he is a well respected reporter for a well respected outlet. this should not be a partisan thing. on the hill, republicans and democrats are interviewed by us reporters constantly with our
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phones and recorders in their faces. i have never seen anyone react repomotely like that. >> it is -- inserting liberal in there clearly there's a reason they did that. >> there is a reason. he is running for congress. to call somebody a liberal who you just body slammed is probably one of the best ways to get out of it, i would presume, if there's any way to get out of it. he is a candidate who has embraced donald trump who wholehearted wholeheartedly. that means that he has embraced his health care package. the question was about how many -- the cbo score which showed 23 million people will not have health care. that's not a good question for him. his opponent, who by the way is an underdog and i would argue remains an underdog in this race, has embraced barack obama's affordable care act. health care is kind of a hot button here, which is why the reporter was asking the question
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about it. it was a natural question to ask. i think that in the last hours of a race with this score coming out, you had a candidate who for whatever reason had no answer to that question. and the candidate should have had an answer to that question. >> it is -- you raised this point earlier of the environment now of this antipathy toward reporters and this license to just act out on it. i guess some people may feel. >> i think the fact that they put liberal journalist in the statement underscores that point. there's something almost in the eyes of some trump supporters that so-called ly eed liberal journalists are somehow subhuman or something. i have been doing this for a long time. there's always been this sort of sense of people maybe conservatives feeling journalists are too liberal. it's never been the way it is
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now. there is such anger and hostility and rage that is directed at journalists. this flows from donald trump. >> if this was a democratic candidate doing this to a conservative reporter it would be the same -- it would be as inappropriate. >> it would be -- of course. we would be saying the same thing. >> the story is not the politics of either side. it's the fact that this is a candidate -- >> i can almost guarantee there will be conservatives that come out and defend what he did. >> at this point in the election, with little time left, it's all about getting out your voters. montana is trump won by 20 points. it's quirky. it's a quirky state. it has a democratic governor, a democratic senator. if you are trying to figure out a way to turn this around, if you are trying to turn it around, you are going to turn it into some liberal journalist.
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i gave him what he deserved, which is ridiculous. that's the best spin he could put on it. it may motivate some of his people to come out and vote. quist is trying to get his voters out there. it could motivate his. you never know what happens in the last hours of a campaign. >> there's nothing normal about this. even with the rhetoric being as charged as it is against reporters. we have all had tough interviews. we're used to being booed and having candidates berate us. that's part of the back and forth. it's more charged now. this physical altercation is the next level. for all donald trump said about reporters, to tie these two things together is unfair. this is really just so out of the norm. i will say, i don't see any way this helps the candidate. >> it sounds like somebody going from 0 to 60, somebody busting out in anger. we will obviously be interested in talking to the reporter and
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the candidate as well. cnn has learned about something attorney general jeff sessions failed to mention during his security vetting, contact with a top russian diplomat and kislyak. what have you learned on this? >> tonight the justice department is acknowledging that attorney general jeff sessions did not disclose meetings he had last year with russian officials when he applied for his security clearance. this is the laute elatest examp sessions not listing contacts with russian officials. he endured criticism from democrats after it was revealed he did not disclose these same contacts with the russian ambassador during his senate confirmation hearings. sessions met with kislyak two times last year, including at the republican national convention. he did not note those interactions on this form, which requires him to list any contact
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he or his family had with a foreign government or its representative over the past seven years. you remember that sessions failed to disclose those meetings during those proceedings that led to sessions recusing himself from all matters related to the russia investigation. >> how is the justice department responding to this tonight? >> tonight the justice department says sessions met with hundreds if not thousands of foreign dignitaries. they said they were advised by an fbi investigator not to list those meetings given that he is a sitting senator. i can tell you that not everyone agrees with that interpretation. one legal expert we quoted in this story says he has advised our lawmakers to actually disclose all foreign government contacts. even if it was done in an official capacity. some republicans are even saying that given all the questions over russia, perhaps he should have disclosed even more than he did earlier this year. >> to be clear, it wasn't just
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that he didn't discuss close meeting with russians, he didn't disclose meeting with any foreign dignitaries. that's pa that's an important detail. how is the fbi responding? do we know? >> we asked the fbi for comment. they have not yet responded. they decline dod to comment. capitol hill is ceasing on this, particularly democrats perhaps not surprisingly jumping on this, including the top democrat john conniers who says it's time for a thorough investigation into sessions. lawmakers on the house intelligence committee had previously said it's possible that sessions could be questioned about those meetings that he had with the russian officials during the course of the campaign. a big question for lawmakers as well that they have about sessions is his role over the firing of fbi director james comey, even though he recused himself from the russia investigation. that was brought to the deputy
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director -- deputy attorney general in these closed door briefings with house members last week. anderson, he did not comment about jeff sessions' role. that could be a question for bob mueller, the special counsel to look at. expect those questions to continue going forward. >> thanks. more on the larger russia investigation. jessica snyder reports on how it's aaffectiffecting the effor obtain james comey's memos conversations with the president. >> lawmakers are waiting for the fbi to turn over documents, including one where the president allegedly told comey, i hope you can let this go, referg to the investigation into former naggal security adviser michael flynn. the house oversight and senate judiciary committees demanded that andrew mccabe submit memos or tapes. neither committee have received
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them. capitol hill investigations continue to ramp up. former trump campaign manager paul manafort submitted 300 documents to the senate intelligence committee containing speeches, calendars and notes from his time with the campaign. so far, michael flynn isn't cooperating. flynn plans to invote hke his f amendment rights. his refusal prompted the senate intelligence committee to send two new subpoenas to businesses run by flynn with a may 30th deadline. >> if there's not a response, we will seek additional counsel advice on how to proceed forward. at the end of the option is a contempt charge. i've said everything is on the table. >> reporter: while president trump travels abroad, his legal team is assembling here at home.
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ms he has retched trump for more than 15 years. he represents a russian bank and a russian business tycoon with ties to vladimir putin. the white house is resetting its sp for an fbi director after wide ranging dissatisfaction with the leading candidate former senator joe lieberman. all while paul ryan put forth a muted defense of fired director james comey. >> you know the former fbi director. does it concern you the president referred to the former fb i director as a nutjob? >> i don't agree with that. he is not. >> do we know what the appointment of robert mueller will have any affect on the memos. >> first off, we know that mueller has been briefed on these memos from james comey. they have not been handed over to congress. house oversight chair jason chaffetz said the fbi contacted his staff and said they would not be handed over today. that was the initial deadline. it's unclear when the memos might be handed over if at all.
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to that end, senate judiciary chair chuck grassly said he is considering calling a meeting with robert mueller along with senat senator diane feinstein. they want to know whether the investigators might keep the memos for their own investigation and not hand them over. >> thank you. the panel weighs in. have incidents done damage to u.s. relationships with allies? we will explore that ahead. what? what's critical thinking like? a basketball costs $14. what's team spirit worth? (cheers) what's it worth to talk to your mom? what's the value of a walk in the woods? the value of capital is to create, not just wealth, but things that matter.
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before the break we were talking about attorney general jeff sessions not disclosing contacts with russia's ambassador during his security clearance vetting. back with the panel. jeff, i want to ask you about this. you wanted to follow up with something you said in the last hour about the allegations against the montana campaign -- candidate for house allegedly assaulting a reporter. >> my reaction was sort of no big deal, done make a federal case out of it. i think i was wrong. this is a big deal. if the facts are as the reporter alleged which is he asked a question and the response from the candidate was to body slam him, that's a matter for law enforcement. that's a serious thing. i regret making light of it. >> on this other story, the fact
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that sessions didn't disclose meetings with the russian ambassador, should point out he is arguing the department of justice, some fbi agent told him he didn't need to disclose any meetings. it wasn't just the russians. is this something? >> it is something. i don't know how big a deal it is. he says he got some guidance from the fbi that the form does not mean what the form says. the form could not be clearer. if the form -- if he -- first of all, it would be interesting to know if he got the guidance. >> the fbi hasn't commented. >> the more interesting part of the story is, it's yet another example of sessions and a trump campaign official not disclosing all of their contacts with the russian government. that is suspicious. it's important. there needs to be an explanat n explanation. >> you are a national occurty
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attorn security attorney. does it make sense? >> well, it is certainly possible. there are agencies that will limit or expand the scope of what the form requires. as jeff said, the session where this would apply can't be clearer. these meetings with the russians and other diplomats would have to be reported. the thing about this is, we need more than just this doj statement that's been issued. i guarantee you, if this was done in that way, then this is common practice. they're not going to make an exception for jeff sessions coming in as a senator to be the attorney general. we have lots of congressional representatives who go into cabinet positions. they do it for all or none. we should be able to find out if there was something special or unique or really suspicious here. >> we should be able to find out if the fbi person actually did say that to sessions. richard painter, the former edge ins lawyer for george w. bush said, in the bush administration, someone who lied on a security clearance form would have been out the door
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within 24 hours. what do you make of this? >> well, people have -- >> steve. >> yeah. there's a couple things that strike me about this. first is, it doesn't ring true to me that would you have -- even if there was an fbi officer who said don't worry about this one little bit, you don't have to be as clear as you need to be here, there's all sorts of senior folks, senior staffers that a guy like sessions has that are going to make sure that everything that needs to be on that form is on that form. when i went through re-investigations my self or ha subordinates reapplying for clearan clearances, do you need to put in every person i met? my counsel was all the same. better safe than sorry. assuming there's nothing to hide, get it all out there. you never want to be in a situation whereby somebody comes back and says, wait a minute, were you trying to deceive, were it's common sense that somebody
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like sessions would have a staff who would make sure he gets it right and common sense, yeah, you put every contact that you have on there because you don't want to leave yourself open to criticism about this later on. >> gloria, it seems like there was a lot of confusion from a lot of people, if confusion is what it is, in team trump. you had jared kushner not disclosing and the issues of michael flynn as well. >> right. with jared kushner, it was his clearance form was mistakenly sent in without any listing of foreign officials with whom he met. we do know that jared met with a huge number of foreign officials, including russians. that his attorney the next day had to amend it. it was apparently sent in by someone from the transition who didn't know much. then the attorney had to amend it. they are still in the process of trying to get this list together and meet with the fbi about it. in the meantime, he has an
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interim clearance. this is a serious thing that people just can't discard. these questions are asked for important reasons, particularly when you are getting a high level security clearance. >> they are asked for the reason that we're dealing with now. which is, did you have contact with a foreign government that was seeking to influence your work? that's what this investigation is about. the fact that he left it out indicates that the form was actually an appropriate form. the other thing worth pointing out is that senators -- every senator, all 100 and all 435 representatives have someone in their office called the scheduler. that's what the person does. so they have a schedule every day. it's not that difficult to go through the schedules and see how many times he met with the russian government. i don't believe it was thousands of people. it was probably several dozen. >> phil, you have filled out some forms in your time at the
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fbi and cia. what do you make of this? >> i have a different perspective. i hope i don't get arrested after appearing on 360. there are a lot of times i didn't declare meetings with foreign officials. this is all about context. if i saw somebody for five minutes, for all the people i saw at the fbi and cia, i was not going to fill out a form every time i passed somebody in the hall in the fbi, british, french, russian, chinese. how are you doing? you want a cup of coffee? the first measure you have is close and continuing contact. the second and final piece of context, we're in an environment on the other side where you have mike flynn being fired for an inappropriate contact with russians and sessions on capitol hill during his hearing saying i don't remember meeting russians. you shouldn't and don't have to in my judgement declare every five minute conversation at starbucks. but this gets a little fuzzy
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when you say the campaign was meeting with these people and repeatedly attorney general sessions failed to mention the contacts. >> the context is what counts. there's smoke about russians. how do you not disclose did? >> mark, go ahead. >> i mean, what phil is saying the practical reality, there's a lot of substance to that. i just want to point out -- this is maybe going into little weeds. there's two questions on the form that this relates to. what phil is talking about with close and continuing, that's one question. there's another question that deals with whether or not they have had any contact, any contact. could be five minutes. is that realistic? probably not. any contact with a foreign government, especially the military service or intelligence. as jeff said, this is why that question is on the form. >> thank everybody. concern that lose lips in the trump administration, including the president, could sink relationships abroad. we will talk about that ahead. q. but when we brought our daughter home,
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control the flow of information in order to protect operational integrity. the element of surprise. >> reporter: after american security forces leaked the identity of the manchester arena attacker. >> it's irritating if it gets released from other sources. i have been very clear with our friends that that should not happen again. >> reporter: but it isn't the first time. two weeks ago, sources reported donald trump shared information with russian officials. john brennan testified on tuesday that the president broke protocol in doing this. >> it appears as though from the press reports that neither did it go in the proper channels nor did the originating agency have the opportunity to clear language for it. that is a problem. >> reporter: the fact it then became public knowledge was the bigger problem. >> that was where the damage came from. that it was released in the press. >> reporter: it was the president who appeared to
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accidentally leak that israel was the source of the sensitive information told to the russians. >> i never mentioned the word or the name israel. never mentioned it. during the conversation. they're all saying i did. so you had another story wrong. >> reporter: media reports never stated the president connected it to israel. benjamin net aanyahu took it in stride. but this morning when israel's army radio twice asked the defen defense minister if it put the life of an israeli in danger, he would say, i will not confirm or deny. leaked to the washington post in the intercept overnight, transcripted from an april 29th phone call between trump and duterte that showed trump talking about submarines and their location near the korean
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peninsula and calling kim jong-un a mad man. it may seem surprising to the public but this isn't an issue. >> an element of our diplomacy is to reassure allies by telling them help is nearby. in that particular case he had a diplomatic message he was sending. he wasn't giving away the coordinates of the submarine. they're not that easy to find. >> given all that, what does it say if anything about how this president does business and how much a break is this from the way other presidents have operated? joining us is retired navy rear admiral john kirby who had an up close view as a naval officer. also with us one of president reagan's lieutenants if not admirals, jeffrey lord is joining us. there's two issues here. they shouldn't be -- u.s. intelligence sources or law enforcement sources or somebody leaking information about the
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manchester investigation. then there's the president disclosing information to the russians in the oval office. >> you are right. those are two separate types of leaks of information. i'm not saying that either one is a good thing. we do need to make sure we keep them separate. you have some -- i would suspect lower level law enforcement officials putting out information to the press about this ongoing investigation which could put the investigation at risk. maybe even potentially put lives at risk as they are trying to prosecute the conspirators of this mabombing. you have the president releasing in a very unscripted, unregulated way aparentally very sensitive intelligence shared with us by another nation. then later announcing to the world what nation that was. that could have a chilling affect on intelligence agencies around the world in terms of their decisions to help share and continue to share information with us going forward.
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i talked to a source in the intelligence community today to take the temperature on this. he told me that so far they haven't seen that chilling affect take affect. other intelligence agencies around the world, while they took notice of this, they're not necessarily making any decisions going forward specifically about sharing intelligence with the united states. however, he did say a common question they are getting as a result of the oval office leak is trying to figure out what the state of the relationship is between the u.s. intelligence community and the white house. they're more interested in where that relationship is going. of course, we know that relationship has been strained. >> jeff, do you think that is what is at the heart of this? the release of information about the investigation in manchester is one thing. that's one thing that the president and others have talked about and you have talked about on this program about releasing information that shouldn't get out there and where are the leaks coming from. >> that's the problem. let me start with one reference here to president reagan.
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allies do disagree. when the president invaded grena grenada, a british commonwealth state, he didn't tell margaret thatcher. she was very angry. this is recorded. he said -- he began the conversation by saying, if i were there, margaret -- he was in washington, she was in london. if i were there, i would throw my hat in the door before i came in. that immediately melted her a bit. she was very kind. but she was very frosty. my point is, allies can have disagr disagreements and get along. this is a bad thing when you have people leaking stuff like this. i don't care whether it's national security things like this or whether it's some bureaucrat in the epa or the justice department or whomever, wherever it might be. we have elections for a reason. the bureaucracy, per se, should not be there to undermine the president. if they don't like the president, that's fine. quit. but don't be doing this. this can have enormous
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consequences unintended consequences and do real damage. >> admiral, do you see what's going on now as a different situation than has happened in past administrations? this president has criticized the intelligence community early on in a way that was at the time kind of considered very surprising and people warned you do that, you are going to end up with people annoyed and leaking information. clearly the obama administration went after leakers more strongly thank past administrations. >> they did. absolutely did. i have been in washington too long, i guess. leaks are just a part of the fabric of everyday life here. i agree with jeffrey. there are leaks and then there are leaks. leaks of classified sensitive information, shouldn't be tolerated. should be investigated and prosecuted. i totally support the administration with respect to that. this does feel different to me. in terms of the speed and the frequency with which leaks are happening under this administration so early on. president obama struggled with
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it. so did president bush. this does feel different. it feels more aggressive and vindictive. >> thank you both very much. coming up, the latest from manchester where there have been raids and arrests following the deadly bombing. to eat healthy. yet up 90% fall short in getting key nutrients from food alone. let's do more. add one a day women's complete with key nutrients we may need. plus it supports bone health with calcium and vitamin d. one a day women's in gummies and tablets. mattress firmness? enter sleep number... she likes the bed soft. he's more hardcore. you can both adjust the bed for the best sleep of your life. save $700 on the temperature balancing i8 bed. go to for a store near you.
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more of the 22 people killed in the whmanchester bombing hav
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been identified. one is jane tweddle. also martyn hett and michelle kiss. another young couple confirmed among the victims. a 17-year-old and a 19-year-old. in a statement, their families say they were inseparable. they wanted to be together forever and now they are. there have been a number of new raids and arrests, including the brother of the suspected bomber. he was arrested on suspicions of links to isis. the older brother had been in libya for three weeks, returned to england days before the attack. also new tonight, the pictures published in "the new york times" reportedly showing what could be parts of the device that was used, the explosive device used. fragments of a backpack. cnn asked the great ert mer manr
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police about the photographs. what is the latest on the arrests? >> what we know is that there have been a series of raids taking place across manchester today. all together now, seven people have been arrested as authorities continue the work of really trying to drill down on whether there is, indeed, a larger network or isis cell potentially still active here in the united kingdom. you mentioned we're getting interesting information from libya, from a militia in libya. we can't confirm their claims. but they claim to have arrested the brother of the suicide bomber. they say that he was planning an attack, a terror attack for the city of tripoli, the capital of libya. they said under interrogation he confessed that he and his brother were both members of isis. i should stress again, anderson,
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obviously, we can't confirm these claims. it's interesting, we're seeing the net start to widen from the uk, also now possibly to libya. just on the topic of those photographs published by "the new york times." while the manchester police said, we will not make any comment on this, british counselor terrorism police have not been so circumstance couple spent. they said it's damaging to the relationship that exists between intelligence sharing powers, that is undermines the investigation. this comes on the heels of britain's home secretary, which is the equivalent of the homeland secretary saying this morning that leaks coming from u.s. officials to the media have been, quote, irritating. >> we should point out, when people think about isis, they think about syria, they think about iraq. there's a large and dangerous presence in libya as well. >> there is a very dangerous presence in libya. isis has been fighting a battle
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against u.s. led coalition from the air and also various militias and factions on the ground that have been fighting against isis, particularly in the stronghold of sirt. what you realize is that in a country like libya, which is still relatively lawless and chaotic, it's still very easy for smaller cells to form under the radar. you see how able they are to plan or choreograph these kinds of attacks. i think that's one thing officials here really want to get to grips with, was the attack planned in libya or was it planned here? is the bomb maker, while potentially the suicide bomber himself, or was it someone in libya or was it someone here? these are the questions that will be crucial to answer as british authorities try to work out if there could be a bomb maker or a larger network still here in the united kingdom, anderson. >> clarissa ward, thnanks very
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>> what do you give him to eat? >> reporter: she also ventured solo in rome to a children's hospital, where she made a friendly greeting to the children in italian. hugging the kids, making drawings, even posing for a few selfies, the first lady connected with young boy, whom she learned hours later was notified that doctors had located a donor for the heart transplant she needs. melania tweeting the news. the trip has been the most the world has seen of the first lady since her husband took off. and melania has made sure she's prepared for the world stage. the white house telling cnn her strategy was to pack a separate bag for each stop on the trip, taking every event on this five-city, nine-day journey as a separate focus. every outfit, from the demure black jump suit she arrived wearing in saudi arabia to her white ensembles in israel, where
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white is considered by some to be a holy color, a symbol of peace and purity, to the black lace dress by italian designers, do dolce and gabbana that she wore to meet the pope. she and ivanka trump wearing the required black formal wear, long sleeves and head veil for their audience with the pontiff. part of the protocol she likely studied when she met with state department officials in preparation for this trip. but it hasn't all been perfect. there was that hand swat heard around the world. the moment on the tarmac in tel aviv, when the president, crowding her out on the red carpet, reached back for melania's hand and she didn't take it. that clip going viral, even noticed by president obama's former white house photographer, pete souza, who was quick to troll the moment, posting his own image of barack and michelle on his instagram page, clearly holding hands. >> kate, we've seen melania trump at every stop, but are we going to hear from her at all on
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this trip? >> we're expected to. at the last stop in sicily, she's planning on speaking to a group of u.s. military members and their families. it will be the first time that she's given a professional speech on this trip. otherwise, she's been relatively quiet. >> kate bennett, thanks very much for the reporting. we'll be right back. when you have allergies, it can seem like triggers pop up everywhere. luckily there's powerful, 24-hour, non-drowsy claritin. it provides relief of symptoms that can be triggered by over 200 different allergens.
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time to hand things over to don lemmon. "cnn tonight" starts right now. this is cnn breaking news. >> so here's the breaking news right now. the republican congressional candidate accused of body slamming a reporter. this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. shocking violence in montana tonight. a reporter for "the guardian" allegedly attacked by a gop candidate greg gianforte. you can hear it right here. >> -- the cbo score, because you know you were waiting to make your decision about health care until you saw the bill and it just came out -- >> we'll talk to you about that later. >> yeah, but there's not going to be time -- >> speak with shane, please. just -- i'm sick and tired of you guys! the last guys that came in here did the same thing. get the hell out of here! get the hell out of here! the last guy did the same thing. are you with "the guardian"? >> yes and you just broke my glasses. >> the last guy