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all right, good morning. we have breaking news this morning. the city of london is dealing with the aftermath of a terror attack. the mayor of london dealing with the aftermath of a terror attack and also now new criticism from the president of the united states. president trump, for the second time since seven people were killed on the streets of london, has gone after the mayor of london. a new tweet just moments ago. the president wrote, "pathetic excuse by london mayor sadiq khan, who had to think fast on his "no reason to be alarmed" statement. mainstream media is working hard to sell it." now, over the weekend, really within the hours after this terror attack, the president wrote, "at least 7 dead and 48
wounded in terror attack, and mayor of london says there is no reason to be alarmed." that is not what the mayor actually said. the mayor of london said there was no reason to be alarmed about the increased presence of police and law enforcement on the streets after a terror attack. but again, the president of the united states choosing to criticize the mayor of london in the aftermath of this attack. let's get right to the white house, senior washington correspondent joe johns is there. joe, the president not backing down. >> reporter: right. it's either a mistake, intentionally misleading, or failure to admit you're wrong, and quite frankly, the president of the united states, sad to say, has been accused repeatedly of all three. what we do know is there is audio and video evidence of exactly what the mayor of london said. he was referring to concerns about increased law enforcement patrols in the city of london in the aftermath of the latest
terror attacks, and the president has construed that to be a reference more or less to the terror attacks themselves. so, it's just one of a number of different situations where the president has been accused again and again of getting his facts wrong. this goes along with some other tweets this morning, as you know, including from the beginning, earlier this morning, the president talking about his travel ban. "the lawyers, the courts can call it whatever they want, but i am calling it what we need, and that is a travel ban." that, of course, is despite intents by his staff to label the travel ban something else. then there was this -- "the justice department should have stayed with the original travel ban, not the watered-down, politically correct version they submitted to the supreme court." that's interesting, because number one, this all arises from an executive order that the president of the united states approved and signed.
nonetheless, it's also a reference to the first ban, which could be construed as pretextual, could be construed as discriminatory toward a religion simply because the president on the campaign trail said he wanted to ban muslims from the country until we figure out what's going on. john, back to you. >> all right, joe johns at the white house, stand by. i want to bring in frederick operate again who is in london right now. you know, fred, there is history between the mayor of london and donald trump. the mayor has said critical things of the president, but i think no matter what he said, when we are within 48 hours after a terror attack, when seven people in london were killed, three terror attacks in england since march, i'm not sure this helps the mayor of london deal with the situation on the ground there. what has been the response from the mayor? >> reporter: yeah, you know what, it certainly doesn't, and that's one of the things the folks here in london and the mayor's office have been saying, they simply don't have time to deal with president trump's
tweets as they're in this major terror investigation and, of course, dealing with the aftermath of the terror attack. you see some of that behind me. there actually is still pretty good, a lot of forensic work going on and a lot of streets here in london blocked off. so the city still very much trying to come to terms with the aftermath and saying they simply don't want to deal with the president's tweets at this point in time. cnn has reached out to the mayor's office after this latest tweet from president trump, and they say at this point in time, we're not aware of it yet, they are going to look at it. but as joe johns said before, the original statement by sadiq khan, the mayor of london, was one that referred to the broader situation of there being more law enforcement on the streets here in london after this most-recent attack. it's something we've been seeing here as well. i want to listen real quick, john, into what exactly sadiq khan said. let's listen in. >> londoners will see an increased police presence today and over the course of the next few days. no reason to be alarmed. one of the things the police, all of us need to do is make sure we're as safe as we
possibly can be. i'm reassured that we are one of the safest global cities in the world, if not the safest global city in the world, but we always evolve and review ways to make sure that we remain as safe as we possibly can. >> reporter: so, one of the things that he's saying there is that they're trying to keep the city as safe as possible, all the while dealing, of course, with the situation that just happened, and that's really one of the things that's happening here on the ground, john, is that we have seen the londoners here be very vigilant, but also stay calm. i'm right where this attack took place, and london bridge is actually right behind me, and once again, only two days after the attack, there are people who are going across that bridge, tourists as well as residents, and they say they are doing what britain has always done, which is keep calm and carry on. so, of course, they understand that this city is a target, they understand that things like this might happen in the future, but at the same time, they're not going to allow that to derail their way of life, and that certainly seems to have been what mayor khan was referring to
when he put out the original tweet. he said, look, we're going to put more law enforcement on the streets in the aftermath of this, we need to be vigilant for a time, but just don't be too alarmed by that, john. >> frederik pleitgen in london for us this morning. again, 7 people killed, 48 people injured, a country and a city trying to deal with the aftermath of this terror attack, and now the mayor of that city under attack on twitter from the president of the united states. i'm joined now by cnn political commentator, former executive director of the congressional black caucus, angela rye, cnn political analyst and senior congressional responsibility for "the washington examiner," david drucker is here. david, i'm little bit at a loss in how to deal with this now, because the way that the president was quoting the london mayor is fundamentally dishonest, i mean, period, full stop. the london mayor flatly said, londoners will see an increased presence today and over the course of the next few days. there is no reason to be alarmed. the president suggesting that, somehow, the london mayor is saying there's no reason to be alarmed by terrorism. he's just saying it in the
aftermath, the immediate aftermath of the terror attack in london, but he's saying it again this morning. how does this help london deal with terrorism? how does this help keep americans safer? >> well, i think the question to ask here is how does this help america lead the west in a fight against isis and really help this special relationship that we have with great britain as much as they would like at a time like this? look, it's understandable. and when i first read the president's tweet yesterday, not first seeing the mayor's full statement -- >> right. >> -- you know, one could imagine that somebody is saying -- somebody is trying to downplay the threat from islamic terrorism, as often does happen on the left at times. and obviously, the president and those on the right have been very bothered by the idea that you wouldn't call islamic terrorism what it is and treat the threat seriously, but that's not at all what the mayor did. he was talking about an increased police presence. and if you've been to borough market -- and i was there one week before this attack happened -- it is vast, it is
surrounded by buildings and bridges overhead. it is during the day teeming with people, at least it was on that saturday. there are restaurants everywhere. so when you're going to have a police presence like this and you're trying to get the city back to normal, it is understandable that the mayor might say, it doesn't mean there's not an ongoing threat in the immediate, but we're trying to keep people safe. this doesn't help the president's goal to lead the west in a fight against isis. it puts the focus on him and his statements, and i think it probably makes it harder for him to work with allies overseas if behavior like this persists. now, we don't know what he said privately to prime minister may, and he could have said all of the right things, things that he said at the ford theater gala the night previous, but i'm with you in that this makes no sense. >> on the phone with us right now is jeffrey lord, cnn political analyst, supporter of the president during the campaign, and of course, since the beginning of his presidency.
jeffrey lord, explain this to me. why is this okay? >> well, you means in terms of the tweet about the mayor of london. >> yeah. >> i think, john, the problem that the president sees based certainly on the things that he has said and is long on record, is that he thinks that there are plenty of people in the world who do not take this problem seriously and that they're in some sort of a, if you will, my words, trance about this. >> sure. >> and that even when something happens in their backyard, they're still not taking it seriously. >> so, jeffrey -- >> i think that's where he's coming from. it's almost as if he feels these people need, you know, again, my phrase, electric shock therapy of some kind to adjust to the reality of this. >> well, look, and we heard those arguments from him during the campaign, but in this case, the way he's making that argument, if that is, in fact, what he's doing, is fundamentally dishonest,
jeffrey. the london mayor put out statements following this attack saying he was appalled by what happened. he called it a cowardly act of terror within minutes of this happening, and the president has been putting out statements that are just dishonest, suggesting that the london mayor's saying not to be alarmed about it when that is not what's happening here. so, again, i just ask you, this is london we're talking about here -- >> well, did not the mayor use the phrase "not to be alarmed"? didn't he say that? >> yes, he did. "londoners will see an increased police presence today and over the course of the next few days. there is no reason to be alarmed. one of the things the police and all of us need to do is ensure we're as safe as we possibly can be." he was saying don't be alarmed because we're putting extra cops and military on the street because there was a terrorist attack, because we're taking this seriously. >> i mean, this is like, you know, neville chamberlain saying don't be alarmed if the nazi bombers appeared overhead in the battle -- >> no, no, no, because the nazi bombers didn't work for the british government. the police and military that
sadiq khan was talking about are working to fight terrorism -- >> yeah, but the people who are stabbing for people on the streets of london are not working for the city of london. they are not. >> exactly. >> they are not working for the british government. they are working for -- >> but what i'm talking about -- the president wasn't talking about this. [ everyone talking at once ] >> -- their business in life to kill westerners on their own streets in their own neighborhoods, and they did it just again. >> jeffrey -- >> i mean, so to say not to be alarmed -- we should be alarmed! we should be vigilant. we should be out there getting these people! >> angela rye, your take on what jeffrey said here and what the president said. >> so, jeffrey, first of all, he did not say don't be alarmed by the attack. he said do not be alarmed by the number of police officers, law enforcement on the street. so i think before we can have an argument about donald trump's alleged good intentions, we should at least be speaking from the same set of facts. what's very important right now, and i think congressman kildee a couple of segments earlier said it best, this is not political at this point anymore.
what donald trump continues to do is more than dangerous. it's causing a divide globally. it's not just here nationally anymore. we are in the middle of recovering from a terrorist attack with our ally, jeffrey. it's essential that we operate as such. it is problematic for donald trump to use this as a wedge, to use this as a distraction because of this james comey hearing! he's using this to pump fear in people's hearts and minds about muslim people. there's a woman that got beaten, her face entirely swollen because of the type of hate that he pushes out. his travel ban that he signed on to that now he's blaming the department of justice for watering down, he signed it. he's using this attack in london to push this travel ban that is hateful and wrong. >> angela, so when barack obama was pushing concern about these same countries that president trump is pushing, then president
obama was hateful. >> all right, hang on one second. >> what i'm saying -- >> hang on a second. this is not during the obama administration. we're talking about the trump administration. david drucker will make one point and then we'll continue. >> look, to the extent that a lot of americans feel that over the past couple of years, the past administration did not want to deal with the fact of radical jihadism. that is the view that many americans held. donald trump as a candidate for president really spoke for them. but in this case, what the mayor of london was doing was not trying to put the idea that there was an attack by radical jihadists under the rug. he was simply speaking about an increased police presence. and i also i think it's important for the president to recognize he's no longer a candidate, so when he speaks, even if justified, even if he has a lot of domestic support, he's speaking on behalf of the united states to our allies, to our adversaries, and that's something that i think this administration needs to take into account. >> people's lives are at stake here. and jeffrey lord, you know, you can be against terrorism, you can think that countries and
city leaders haven't been saying enough in the past to fight terrorism. that doesn't justify being dishonest about what they're saying about terrorism now. >> well, i don't think he is, john. we just disagree. >> no, that's -- no, you can't disagree on what's a fact, jeffrey. >> yes, i can. >> no, you can't, because that's -- it's just not true! so, you can continue to push these theories. it's not true. his words are right there in plain english. there's no reason for donald trump to decide that he was saying something different. he used it as a wedge issue to push this crazy travel ban. that is what that is. >> for what, angela? he's not running for election. >> no! and that was david's whole point, he's not! he's supposed to be the commander in chief. he's supposed to be the president. he's supposed to stand up with his allies, not against them, but he's using it as a wedge issue because of -- what is this man's last name? it's khan. that's the main issue. that's the main issue. >> yesterday i took the day off and watched the whole history of world war ii, and there, yet again, was the story of winston
churchill and neville chamberlain with neville chamberlain saying in essence the kinds of things you are saying. >> that's different. >> we're going to stop. once we went back to neville chamberlain and 1939, i think it's time to stop this conversation, but i do appreciate it. angela rye, david drucker, jeffrey lord, appreciate your input here. but again, let me read you the actual words from sadiq khan as we part here -- "londoners will see an increased police presence today and over the course of the next few days. there is no reason to be alarmed. one of the thing the police and all of us need to do is ensure we are as safe as we possibly can be." the police are there to fight terrorism. that is what he is saying. waves of arrests in the wake of the london terror attacks as we learn the identities of the attackers. plus, democrats sending a warning to the president. their message -- do not invoke executive privilege to block the testimony of james comey. we're going to speak one of them coming up. y mom to heart disease and then being diagnosed myself.
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attack that left seven people dead, more than 40 people injured. authorities have now detained 11 people after a wave of anti-terror raids. this comes as the british prime minister has revealed the police have identified all three attackers. also, a source confirms to cnn that one of the attackers had ties to ireland. we're also getting new video of the attackers. watch closely. i'm seeing this for the first time as well. it shows some of them walking moments before the attack. we'll keep watching that for one second. i want to take another look at it, if i can. i see two people there. we know there were three attackers. unclear to me whether this was after the van stopped and they were walking to the restaurant where they stabbed people or whether it was before they somehow got in the van. we don't know, but you can see that video. again, british authorities say they know the identities of the attackers. they have not released their names. all right, let's discuss all of this with peter bergen, cnn national security analyst, and
terrorism expert sajen gohel. sajen, with the president's most recent statements, in a terror attack in the city where you are, the president in the last 24 hours has been critical in a somewhat dishonest way, very dishonest way, of london mayor sadiq khan and statements that the mayor made saying there was no reason to be alarmed about police on the streets. your take on what the president has done and whether or not that helps on the situation in the aftermath of this attack. >> look, i mean, the most important thing right now is the investigation itself, to ascertain whether these individuals were part of a cell, whether this was assisted, directed or inspired by isis. i understand that tempers are frayed, not just in the uk, but perhaps across the pond as well. it is important that cool heads prevail. we all have to work together on this, and the uk especially depends on the united states for assistance and cooperation, and many americans have given a lot
of support and sympathy to what's happened. i'm from london. it's my city. i was born and raised here. it's difficult sometimes when you experience a terrorist attack so close to home, and it's just important that we all coordinate our efforts and resources together in fighting this threat. >> that's a very reasoned, calm response in a time of such response. if the theme of what president trump was saying is somehow the mayor of london or british officials hadn't been taking terrorism seriously, is that true? >> the uk authorities have taken it very seriously. look at, for example, how quickly the armed police responded to the incident in london, eight minutes on the scene. they may not have been able to preempt the plot because it's very hard to stop these acts of terrorism when they happen, but they certainly curtailed it, they prevented it from proliferating. and since the westminster attack five months ago, there have been five plots that the authorities have disrupted, but the authorities have to be lucky all
the time, the terrorists have to be lucky just once. >> peter bergen, the substance, if you can call it that, of what the president has been writing this morning has been about the travel ban. he did use the words travel ban that he wants to institute here in the united states. you have written about the idea of the travel ban and whether it would be an effective tool to battle terror. what's your opinion? >> well, it's not really my opinion, john. it's really what are the facts of the matter. just take the case of britain, the manchester terrorist was born in manchester, was a british citizen. the attack that mr. gohel referred to on the westminster bridge three months ago was carried out by a british citizen who was born in the very english county of kent. and then let's just jump across the atlantic to the united states. every lethal terrorist attack since 9/11 has been carried out by an american citizen or legal, permanent resident. none of those attacks were carried out by any of the countries on the proposed travel ban list. and john, one other thing that i think we should consider this morning is when the president
says, you know, we should have gone back to the original travel ban, i think that's particularly problematic not only from a constitutional point of view but also, iraq was on that travel ban, and now iraq, of course, it's iraqis who are fighting and dying in their hundreds in cities like mosul fighting isis. and of course, luckily, iraq was taken off the list in the revised travel ban. but the idea that we should go back to the first travel ban, which was problematic constitutionally, factually, and also from a point of view of our allies, i think is not a smart idea. and so, you know, there's a constitutional objection to the travel ban, but i'm really focused on, in this case, on the efficacy of the travel ban, which is really a solution in search of a problem that doesn't really exist, particularly in the united states, but also, you know, in some other countries. we don't know who carried out the london attacks just 48 hours ago, but it will be very interesting to see if they're british citizens or not. >> right. the british authorities say they do know the identities of the three men.
they have not released those identities. i think we can anticipate them coming out over the next several hours. peter bergen, sajja gohel, i appreciate you being with me. all right, the fired fbi director james comey days away from testifying, or is he? the white house this morning not ruling out the use of executive privilege to block that testimony. stay with us. pcountries thatk mewe traveled,t what is your nationality and i would always answer hispanic. so when i got my ancestry dna results it was a shocker. i'm everything. i'm from all nations. i would look at forms now and wonder what do i mark? because i'm everything. and i marked other. discover the story only your dna can tell. order your kit now at ancestrydna.com.
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73 hours from now, the fired fbi director, james comey, is set to testify in front of the senate intelligence committee. that happening if the white house doesn't try to block him from doing so. still no definitive answer from kellyanne conway over whether the president will try to invoke executive privilege. listen to this. >> the president will make that final decision, but if mr. comey does testify, we'll be watching with everyone else. >> the president will make that final decision, if james comey
testifies. joining me now is democratic congressman jerry nadler of new york. thank you for being with us. you, among others, have written a letter to white house counsel don mcgahn saying don't even think about executive privilege. why not? >> well, we wrote for two reasons, but there are really three reasons. we wrote, number one, because the president for all practical purposes has waived his executive privilege by talking about the subject matter under discussion incessantly, number one. and number two, any attempt to wait to inhibit mr. comey from testifying would be seen by the public, and i think rightfully so, as an attempt to obstruct justice, as an attempt to protect the president rather than to really invoke executive privilege. those are the two reasons we wrote in the letter, but there's a third. normally, executive privilege is invoked when someone is trying to prevent compelled testimony. comey could invoke it by saying this was secret advice to the
president and i shouldn't be compelled to testify. but when the witness wants to testify, there's a very heavy first amendment protection. you can't invoke restraint unless you have dire circumstances, and this is almost inconceivable that the president could get away with a successful invocation of executive privilege. >> even though kellyanne conway didn't rule it out today, "the new york times" is reporting the white house has decided not to use it. i would be surprised, frankly, if they did. i guess until the president says no, we won't know. gloria borger reporting that someone familiar with comey's thinking is saying that if he thought there was obstruction of justice during the investigation when he was still at the fbi, he would have said something. he thought he could handle the situation. in other words, he didn't see something that constituted obstruction of justice at the time. if that's what he testifies this thursday, does that put that to bed? does that put that issue to bed? >> i wouldn't think it would put it to bed, because the question would be not whether he saw an
attempt to -- well, obstruction of justice, if there was one, would consist presumably not only -- would consist of the totality of the president's asking the fbi director for loyalty, asking the director of the fbi to stop an investigation, and his then firing the fbi director, which he hadn't done, obviously, before he fired him, for not being willing to stop the investigation, that totality might be an obstruction of justice. >> to be fair, the source familiar with james comey's thinking says he saw no individual instance of obstruction. james comey, thinking whether the totality or pattern would constitute something separate. you obviously were very critical of james comey during the election. you said that president obama should have fired -- >> i did, indeed. >> -- james comey because of how he behaved during the investigation into hillary clinton's e-mails. americans who will be sitting watching his testimony on thursday, should they take that into account, his job performance that you believed was so poor that should get him
fired? should they take that into account when determining whether or not he's a credible witness on thursday? >> i don't think so, because no one accused him in any way of being dishonest at any point. i thought he had extremely bad judgment in the summer of last year and the fall of last year for reasons i stated at the time. i thought he should have been fired in the summer of last year for commenting on hillary clinton's conduct once he said he wasn't going to charge her. you don't -- you're not supposed to say, well, this person's done nothing criminal, but i think what he or she did is terrible anyway. that's not your business as a policeman or a prosecutor to say that. you can have your opinion, but it's not proper to say any opinion of concededly legal conduct, but he wasn't dishonest. he said what he thought. he did what he thought. i thought his judgment was wrong. this year, if he was fired for the sin of being independent and
of conducting an honest investigation, that would be obstruction of justice, and that's a separate question. >> senator mark warner, ranking member of the senate intelligence committee, says he sees a lo lot of smoke, but yesterday with jake tapper, he says he has seen no smoking gun. if there is a smoking gun, do you think he would have seen it at this point? >> we don't know. that's why there has to be an investigation. >> what do you want to hear most from james comey on thursday? >> i want to hear what was said between him and the president and what he was thinking the president meant and what, if any, reason he was given for being fired. i mean, we know that the president initially used a pretextural reason. they sent out the vice president and others to say that he was fired for the reasons stated in the memo and then said it wasn't true. and the president basically said it wasn't true. so, what was going on? >> congressman jerry nadler of new york, great to have you with us. thank you so much for your time. >> thank you. >> and of course, the testimony with james comey in front of the senate intelligence committee,
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all right, we have live pictures from orlando, florida. we're expecting a press conference very shortly from the sheriff of orange county there. there's been a shooting at a workplace. we are told there were multiple fatalities. that is all the information we have right now. we don't know the name of this office. we don't know how many people were killed. we are told the situation at
this time is currently stable. and again, we're minutes away from getting much more information from the sheriffs there. we'll bring you that news conference when it happens. in the meantime, a huge story out of the middle east, a diplomatic crisis there, the likes of which we have not seen for some time. six countries have cut off ties with the key u.s. ally of qatar -- saudi arabia, bahrain, egypt, the uae, maulediese and yemen, accusing qatar of supporting terrorism. now qatar calls it unjustified and a fabrication. this is two weeks after the president was in saudi arabia speaking to leaders from all the gulf nations, calling on all of them to crack down on terrorism, to work together to crack down on terrorism. that seems less likely this morning after this series of events. joining me now, cnn pentagon correspondent barbara starr. these countries are of huge significance, barbara, to the united states. >> reporter: they are, john, and a huge significance to the united states military
especially operating in the middle east. this is posing a dilemma for the military to try and figure out very quickly what this all means for u.s. military operations, especially in the fight against isis because the u.s. bases a good deal of its capability in qatar. they operate at that large air base known as al yudid. they run an operations center out of there that coordinates all the combat air operations in the region in the fight against isis. none of this is being seen as anti-u.s., but still, you know, no one knows what the next steps may be here diplomatically that could make it more difficult for the u.s. to operate in qatar. the secretary of state, rex tillerson, talking about the need for everybody to take a deep breath and sit down and talk about it a little earlier today. here's what he had to say. >> i think what we're witnessing is a growing list of some irritants in the region that have been there for some time.
and obviously, they have now bubbled up to a level that the country's decided they needed to take action in an effort to have those differences addressed. we certainly would encourage the parties to sit down together and address these differences. >> reporter: but these differences, what are they? this is really the key to the whole thing. many of these countries in the gulf simply feel that qatar, as much as it is a u.s. ally, is not doing enough in the fight against terrorism and is a little bit closer to iran than these other gulf countries want anybody in the region to be. there's a lot of anti-iranian feeling across the gulf allies. they are pressing qatar very hard to distance itself from iran, and that brings us back full circle, because of course, president trump, the secretary of state, and secretary of defense jim mattis have been very much in the region trying to press to get iran to back off
its terrorist agenda, to back off its support for terrorism, so it's going to be a bit difficult to criticize these nations when they are saying they're trying to make the effort to pressure iran as well. john? >> and again, with the u.s. military assets in qatar, fascinateing to see what will happen to the flight, the takeoff and the war on terror in syria and iraq from qatar. do we have any sense that u.s. operations will be at all affected there, barbara? >> reporter: well, you know, it's very early on. we spoke to military officials early this morning, and they acknowledged, they're still trying to figure all of this out. it's not anti-u.s., so they don't feel like they're going to get booted out of anywhere, but this is a network of u.s. operations across the region that really are interbetweened. so, if you can't really readily operate out of one place -- let's say one of these countries says, no, you cannot land a military flight in our country because it's coming from qatar, then you have to begin to rearrange things. could the u.s. rebase everything somewhere else? yes, of course it could, but
this is going to be a complication unless they all gets sorted out and everybody understands exactly what it all means for the u.s. military. and by all accounts right now they are not there yet, john. >> all right, barbara starr at the pentagon for us. thanks so much. cnn law enforcement analyst and retired special agent james g gagliano and nata bacos. i'm not sure it would have alarmed them right away to know they're cutting ties with qatar, but it should. this is an area of really intense and meaningful u.s. interests right now. how do you see it? >> i agree with what barbara was talking about with the u.s. base. i mean, this is a major base of operations for the united states. yet to determine what that means as far as that asset, but at this point, i think secretary tillerson is on the right path, that he needs to encourage these countries to sit down and start
talking this out. this is something that has been brewing, but this is something that needs a whole-of-region approach from the trump administration. i think it could be perceived by qatar that, you know, with trump's recent visit to saudi arabia, that there was a signaling that this was okay for them to do. i think at this point, the trump administration really does need to get involved in trying to broker some of these conversations so that we can secure our own assets, including the military base in qatar. >> james, you worked with the fbi and here in the fight against terrorism. how key is it to have a unified front amongst these nations there? >> absolutely. i think from the diplomatic perspective, when you're in the business of building coalitions, and right now the coalition we're trying to build is the fight against isis, you need all those nations to line up. and any fracture or fissure in that is definitely, john, going to cause problems. >> and this is a huge fissure. this is no minor fissure. this is cutting off relations. you know, it's really a big deal in very unknown territory where
we're getting into here. james, if i can shift gears here to fbi director james comey, testifying on thursday. obviously, you worked in the fbi. you know, as a former fbi agent, what do you think it is that james comey wants to clear up in this public testimony? >> john, i think first of all, this is going to be a week of high theater. we're three days out from his testimony in front of the senate intelligence committee. the last time we saw james comey in front of congress was the day before he was fired, may 8th. and in that testimony, i've gone back and listened to that and read the transcripts, he's kind of boxed himself in. he answered questions specifically about whether he felt that there were any pressure put on by the trump administration to stand down the russian investigation, or any depletion of resources and he answered unequivocally no. the fbi director's got to deal with that. there are also records that were kept, referred to as memos. they're actually electronic communications. those are going to be subpoenaed. it will be interesting to see
how far this goes in a public forum because i'm sure most of this will happen in closed session. >> although you do get the sense he wants to get some things off his chest, wants to go public with information in a way not to maybe defend his firing, but to defend himself against claims by the president himself about the nature of the conversations, where the president has tweeted that james comey told him about the investigation he was not being investigated. >> john, no doubt about it, this has become personal. now, i know from hearing james comey over the almost four years that he was the fbi director constantly speak to this -- he has put the institution of the fbi up front and said he is looking to protect that. that means he will testify honestly and openly, and he's a private citizen, so it's going to be interesting to see how this invocation of executive privilege is going to work, because he doesn't work for the government anymore. >> well, we don't know that the white house will try to go down the executive privilege route. "the new york times" is reporting they're leaning against it. it would be surprising at this point if they try to do it. nada, aside from james comey, there is a lot of smoke or there's a lot of interest, i
should say, concerning the meeting that jared kushner had with a banker. now, i think people will say, hey, he was meeting with a banker, what's the big deal here? but we're talking about a russian bank that's not just a bank. explain. >> part of it is that he didn't have all the necessary disclosures when he went to apply for his security clearance, so it's not just that he was just meeting with a banker. and again, as you said, this isn't just a typical bank. this bank is also involved in a lot of russian government operations, so they're working with quasi arm, working with some funding mechanisms. but you know, at this point, when you're seeing national security disclosure forms when you're applying for a security clearance, you have to put down all of the foreign contacts that you had, and that would be a significant one that i would think would be forefront in his mind. russia is not one of our top five allies. this would be something that you
would, you know, for see as being a problem if you didn't disclose this. so, i think that in and of itself is problematic. >> you know, if you ever filled out a form and left that off, nada, would you get in trouble? >> absolutely. i cannot imagine maintaining my clearance at that point. >> james gagliano, if you misreported on a form, would you get in trouble? >> i think if it can be proven. again, the issue here is going to be intent, and that's going to be difficult to discern. but i would say, yes, as a government employee, that would be something that would be fraught with peril. >> james, nada, thanks so much for being with us. appreciate it. again, that testimony from james comey scheduled for thursday beginning at 10:00 a.m. cnn's special coverage begins at 9:00 a.m. all right, the nba finals heading back to cleveland and cleveland finds itself in a 2-0 hole. lebron james not happy about it. we'll hear from him in the "bleacher report," next.
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game two. good morning, coy. >> golden state looking unstoppable, 14-0 in the playoffs, putting the defending champion cavaliers on the ropes. a familiar face back on the bench, coach steve kerr returning for the first time in six weeks due to back pain issues. lebron james showing respect. this play sums up the series so far. lebron, who has about a half a foot and 60 pounds on steph curry, doing anything he can to slow down the warriors, but it's just not happening. golden state wallops the cavs 132-113. lebron couldn't hide his frustration after the game when he was asked if the cavs are going to need to defend home court coming up. >> lebron, do you see a case where you'll have to defend home court? >> well, i mean, are you a smart guy? >> i think so. >> think so, right? so, we don't defend home court, what happens? >> yeah, i know. that's what i'm saying. >> i'm asking you.
all right. so you answered your question. >> that's still trending on bleacherreport.com this morning. game three is wednesday night in cleveland. a little bit of feel-good from the sports world for you this morning. phil mickelson choosing family over his career, withdrawing from the upcoming u.s. open so he can go to his daughter amanda's high school graduation. he's foregoing the chance to pursue a career grand slam. the u.s. open is the only major he has not yet won. he says, john, that when he looks back on life, he knows this will be a moment he will cherish always. that's some good stuff for you this morning. >> that is a good decision by phil mickelson, better than playing in a golf tournament. all right, coy wire, great to have you with us. thank you so much. we're waiting on two, big live events. moments from now, the orange county sheriffs in florida is going to brief reporters. there's been a deadly workplace shooting there. we are told multiple fatalities. we're expecting new details moments away. and a little later, we are going to see president trump for the first time today. this is the first time we will hear from him using words out
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hello, everyone, i'm kate bolduan. we are following breaking news from london and washington right now. new raids this morning in the heart of terror attacks in london that left 7 dead and 48 injured. the attackers have been identified by police and authorities are racing to figure out whether they're part of a larger network. but as london grieves, the president of the united states issues not one but two attacks on the city's mayor. president trump already under fire for his controversial response to the weekend tragedy just moments ago doubled down on his attack on the city's leader with this on twitter. his statement -- "pathetic excuse by
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